The Truth About the Move

In case you do not keep current with the ongoing Q&A dialogue in this blog entry, here is a reprint of a recent question and answer that you may find of interest, relevant to the Heading South episode that was just aired last night, Monday 08/11/2008:

QUESTION: Did Jon and Kate ever discuss moving out of state with Jodi? I think they are moving out of state because of all the fighting with friends and family, nothing is keeping them in PA anymore. I remember a show a few months ago when they were looking at land in PA, not out of state. It is a major change.

ANSWER: A long time ago (probably close to a year), they were talking about building a house close to Beth.

It's been at least 6-8 months now that they have been talking about building a house in NC. J&K attended a wrap party for Season 3 back in May down at Figure 8. When they returned, Jon said that property had been purchased and all of the sponsors had committed. Everything is being provided including appliances, furnishings, TVs, etc. J&K are not paying for ANYTHING.

They have been showing their house plans to various people. Supposedly, it's going to be 8000sf with a pool and pool house. There will be an area designated for the crew including their own entrance and kitchen.

Moving out of state has nothing to do with fighting with family and friends. That has been going on as long as I have known the family. We believe that in order to get the house of their dreams, the production company has stipulated that it needs to be near them. They have no intention of ending this any time soon.

Blog entry created from comments posted by The Truth Shall Set You Free.

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Anonymous said...

Interesting Info.
Thanks for sharing.

Anonymous said...

Well, that should be the death knell for the series. It is the everyman/everywoman facade that keeps people interested in the family. At more than 3 times the national average home size, the growth of the home will cause their relatability to shrink. Maybe we should cheer this move, as it could bring an end to the intrusion into the lives of the kids.

Anonymous said...

Well, that should be the death knell for the series. It is the everyman/everywoman facade that keeps people interested in the family.

I think you underestimate the stupidity of their fans.

minxie said...

Well, I am pretty much done watching this show; I haven't seen the last few episodes and have no curiosity about them. It's the same narrative every week: Gosselins go on some pre-arranged excursion; we watch them get ready; they do it and come home. J & K bicker; the kids are cute; Kate is anal, controlling and narcissistic. They are just too irritating and fake for me to waste time on them anymore. I've emailed TLC in the past and told them my opinion, and that's all I can do. I hope those poor kids get some help. Keep fighting to good fight, GWOP!

Anonymous said...

This is completely outrageous!!! I can't believe they come on week after week telling complete lies about absolutely everything!!! It is CRAZY to me that this woman has found a big money network to go along with her delusional whims..she should be rotting in an obscure corner of PA completely alone with no kids or husband ever. Seriously, she was goof looking for like five minutes and used that time to ensnare a low self esteem man to assist her and enable her ludicrous and unethical desires. Then she lost her looks, became a total shrew, abuses exploits her kids from the day they are born, lies every time she opens her mouth, hoodwinks honest people out of their hard earned money, and yet the money train flows on faster and faster. What a sad commentary on our society that we let this happen.

Here's an idea for a "reality" show. The Real Gosselins. Someone needs to follow them around AND their enabling crew and made a documentary about it. Maybe THAT would finally save these kids.

Anonymous said...

8000 square feet, OMG! So you get 1000 square feet for every kid you exploit? Interesting...

IMHO said...

Wow. I am at a loss for words. 8000sf, pool - I can't even imagine the leap. Here they were, a struggling couple, scared to death with the thought of 6 new babies entering their family of 4, getting national exposure and relief in miracle proportions, to hedonistic voyeurs living in more home than anyone needs. I hate to say this, but if I spent all of our money, I could have a castle home too. I would also be filled with guilt in how I've used what God has blessed me with. And then there would be the stress of trying to stay in that lifestyle.....it's just not worth it! Ever! You end up living for your "things'!

This whole scenario - it will sell for TLC - big time. People love watching disasters unfold. Heck - WE all watch the show even though it makes many of us uncomfortable. I think TLC salivates over blog such as this. Ratings! Ratings! Let's lick the feet of Jon and Kate and get them to give us more!

So - they'll get the big house and a weird kind of stardom, and when the world tires of watching the latest version of mentally imbalanced mom, as well as kids that aren't little and cute anymore, and TLC drops them, do they get to keep the house? And who supports the lifestyle?

Shannon said...

I wonder if they will make a killing when they sell there old house. Im sure since the house is now "famous" Jon and Kate will try to make as much as possible to "support" there family. Haha right!

Bicoastal said...

Figure 8 sees itself as some type of compassionate voyeur; its programs feature many of our fellow human beings dealing with life's uneven playing field.

I don't know -- or care -- if Figure 8 is sincere in its do-gooder mission. It is clear they flatter and then seduce their saddest subjects with bullshit lines e.g. "you're story needs to be told" and "think of the others your story will help."

Somehow I doubt Figure 8 sticks around when the four-legged boy wants a sequel to his story. By then, the producers have moved-on to the next sad sack, patting themselves on the back over the positive "difference" they make in the world.

TLC has its own dilemma; highly unlikable "stars" in a successful series that eventually will draw national media attention revealing how fame and freebies corrupted everybody -- even the network that prides itself on bringing-home- babies while telling us what-not-to-wear.

The unemployed Gosselin parents cannot explain the family's new-found wealth no matter how many scripted lines TLC, Figure 8 or their new PR agent gives them.

Jon & Kate seem to bring everybody down to their level. Even a network.

Manda said...

Here's an idea for a "reality" show. The Real Gosselins. Someone needs to follow them around AND their enabling crew and made a documentary about it. Maybe THAT would finally save these kids.

The thought of that kind of "Gosselin Worm Hole" makes my head hurt. But at the same time? Makes me giggle a little.

AmandaT said...

Wow. It seemed very staged when they were looking at properties, but I honestly didn't think that they were so deceptive. I figured they would film them looking at actual options, and Figure 8/sponsors would just foot the bill. How does Kon sleep at night? There are so many justifications at the ready for why they exploit their kids .... how can they possibly justify such a blatant lie?

ThreeFarmers said...

What is scary about them building a house is that we know that they will build it to accommodate the show. That means that cameras will likely be built into the walls so that the camera crews won't have to be so intrusive. Have any of you ever watched Big Brother? I certainly hope they wouldn't do that to their children. It's bad enough that they are filmed all the time, but at least now they have the option to run away from the camera (i.e. Mady), it would be awful if they were unaware they are being taped, and/or have fewer places to go to truly escape the camera. I pray (and I'm not much of a prayer) that house isn't wired.

Anonymous said...

The lastest issue of "Entertainment Weekly" features MTV's Lauren Conrad of "The Hills" on the cover, and it has a pretty interesting article into how that "reality" show is created. Obviously I don't know that the process is exactly the same for J&K+8, but it's a pretty interesting look into how each episode is scripted.

In particular, the show's producers were discussing how important it is for Lauren and her friends to be relatable and likeable, but how hard it's becoming to film the show because so much of Lauren's life now involves "celebrity" stuff like film premieres. It's pretty much the same dilemma TLC/Figure 8 have (albeit with more Hollywood glitz than J&K will ever have) - how to make the family appear relatable when it's obvious to anyone with half a brain that the family is now rolling in $$$ and surrounded by paid help.

Lauren states in the article that she has had nightmares where she's being filmed in her sleep and will actually wake up, expecting to have a camera in her face. And this, folks, is a young adult who consented to being filmed and is personally reaping the financial rewards of such filming, not a very young child who had no say in the matter.

F. said...

Eight adorable, healthy children. Check.

A wife that sounds like a shrew and her gutless husband. Check.

Free clothes for everyone. Check.

Tummy tuck, hair transplant, and teeth whitening, all donated. Check.

Trips we could never afford on our own. Check.

Treating your friends and family like crap. Check.

On our way to millions in the bank. Check.

Sponsorships to pay for a two million dollar house. Check.

Lying to kind donors and your viewing audience. Priceless.

Katie said...

It's difficult for me to say this considering the comments that will come after I post my opinion. I am not defending J&K. I don't necessarily care for the image they have on the show, but I don't blame them for accepting this house from Figure 8. If someone offered me a free house with appliances, a pool, a guest house, new furniture, OF COURSE I would take it, and I don't think anybody would refuse that. I believe that they have unique needs in terms of space and it was the obvious choice to build a house (my husband and I are considering doing the same because we want a "green" home). As far as complaining how poor they are, I agree that this whole thing seems odd. I think everyone would be really interested in seeing their paycheck for TLC as well as all the other product placement they do at the zoo, but that doesn't mean that they don't deserve a house where the kids can roam. It will be GREAT for the kids!! Maybe the twins can have their own rooms finally, the younger kids will have more space, and Kate won't freak out anytime someone is in her kitchen.

Ravello said...

Thanks for posting this on the front page of GWOP.
Serena, later you may want to consider moving this to the sidebar area next to the National Enquirer story for permanent viewing.

Also, you may want to consider permanently posting the recent comment from someone in Abington Pa who will be attending a KON event. The love offering basket will be passed.

Luxury Home Free of Charge
Love offerings
What a country we live in.
The two KONS don't even have jobs. And she doesn't take care of her own kids.

Thanks GWOP

Anonymous said...

Maybe this is what will grab mainstream media attention and bring the "House of Gosselin" down. It's pretty hard to hide the fact you've been given an 8,000 square foot mcmansion with a pool!!

Anonymous said...

Maybe Jon and Kate will live on the beach in NC by John Edwards (he has a home on the beach down there) and they can tell each other lies, sweet little lies...

No wait, Elizabeth doesn't deserve to live by the Gs.

BA in SOMD said...

This weekend, I watched "Then Came 6" (not sure if that's the exact name). Someone here mentioned that show, an African American family with one older son, plus 6 little ones (I think they were 5). One had autism, one they suspected might. Both parents worked - dad is a school teacher and mom is a tech or some sort, and might also being going to school to be an xray tech? BOTH parents WORK REAL jobs.

What struck me as different btwn the two families is how MELLOW the TC6 family was compared to J&K. The parents didn't freak out over messes, sqwuak at each other... it was refresing to see. The show wasn't as "clean" - clearly not a well oiled machine, much like J&K is now. It really looked like a documentary, or following around a family that had plans, but not PLANNED outings. THIS was the reason why I started to watch J&K. And now I set my tivo to watch TC6.

But, while I watched with interest, I couldn't help but wonder when the gravy train was going to come to this family, as they mentioned how they struggle to make ends meet: for example, they signed up all kids for t-ball, but then they had to pay off a kid a month. However, in the same show, the mom was going to get *another* tattoo. Ummmmmmmmmmmm, aren't tats pretty pricey too? I hate that I think like that! I have a hobby (scrapbooking) and often buy supplies for myself. I would hate to be judged for what I spend! (Then again, I don't have 8 kids, I only have 2). While I totally get the need to have time and money for the things you want too, the cynical part of me cringed wondering if that was the start of this family putting thier hand out - esp after watching J&K's show and learning about all the freebies they are getting (and now with the house, I literally feel sick. I know PLENTY of families of 6+ kids who do NOT have a 8000 sq ft house w/ pool FULLY FURNISHED).

I don't judge these families for the ways they got thier multiples (drugs, treatments, dumb luck, LOL). And I didn't even judge when they got free stuff and volunteers- I was almost grateful for the family that they had help! In the beginning, when I learned J&K got gymboree and gap freebies, I thought that it was really cool, esp for the older kiddos. But it's out of control - WAY out of control - and IMO, gotten flat out disgusting. and they (J&K) seem to EXPECT these things now!

You know what? Some days, I would love to have another baby. But I work full time to support my home and family plus save for rainy days and college. My mom watches my kids (a blessing! I completely realize that!) but still, the costs of a third would totally kill our budget - we'd be scrimping every last cent just for necessities. That's when I get angry - J&K BOTH get to stay home and really have the chance to be there for thier kids. I realize that the show is a double edge sword: it's b/c of the show and the sponsors that they get this opportunity, but then, they no longer seem grateful, and act like they are entitled just b/c Kate squeezed out a litter!

Off my soapbox - this is the first time I've commented, but after watching the beach shows where they went looking for properties, plus realizing they got a kick ass vacation in NC (for free, probably), and then reading this morning that they are having a HUGE house and pool built and furnished for them... well, that's the straw that broke the viewer's back! and I felt I had to comment...

Serena said...

If someone offered me a free house with appliances, a pool, a guest house, new furniture, OF COURSE I would take it, and I don't think anybody would refuse that.

Think again. I and plenty of other people would be horrified at the thought of having to exploit our children in order to earn such an offer and we would never even consider doing it.

They are NOT being offered a "free" home, they are simply being given one in exchange for a hefty price -- their children's privacy, dignity, and ultimately, their children's childhood.

I believe that they have unique needs in terms of space

Nonsense. That is the drivel J&K were spouting in the show and it's ridiculous. There are millions of perfectly good homes available on the market that could very easily accommodate the needs of a large family.

elle said...

So, in May, Jon and Kate tell people they have bought property in NC and are moving. In June, Kon goes on vacation to NC, pretends to stop at possible future homes, when in reality they already bought property in NC.

Do you think they hurt themselves from laughing so hard at their viewers stupidity?

Anonymous said...

I for one cannot wait for them to move to NC..we are so done with them in PA..I live about 3 miles away from their original house.I am glad they are not building near Beth who also lives in our county.

Chris said...

"It will be GREAT for the kids!! Maybe the twins can have their own rooms finally, the younger kids will have more space, and Kate won't freak out anytime someone is in her kitchen."

I think you are looking only at the surface of this. This big home is just material, it's non-important. These kids LIVES are being forever altered and their childhoods changed. That is what is important here. A big home doesn't make a person happy. More space doesn't make a person happy. And their own rooms? Honestly who the hell cares? So in order for children to be well adjusted normal children they need a huge home? That is just plain nonsense and I think you know that. And Kate is not a happy person, so giving her a big home with plenty of kitchen space (which she won't use anyways because she has a fulltime chef) will not make her happy either.

Deep down inside she is a poor soul and a miserable person and I think the more money thrown at this family will just bring this fact out more in her. And yes, even the faithful to Kate will eventually see this about her too.

Bicoastal said...

Top Ten Names for the future Gosselin Estate

10. The House That Greed Built

9. Bite us, PA!

8. Cupcake Manor

7. Exploitation Ranch

6. "Do Not Look At Our Waves"

5. Malaprop Estates

4. Casa de Shrew y No Cajones

3. Grandma Can't Find Us Now!

2. McLazy's McMansion

1. Suckers!

Anonymous said...

3. Grandma can't find us now!

That's the best one.

Seriously though, it must be horrible for the Grandma...

Katherine said...

I've watched this series from the beginning, and also was taken in with cute kids, two "normal" parents trying to handle it all, and the whole "trying to live a normal life" bit that the producers were trying to impress upon the viewers. Aside from the stuff I have read on the net about this family, the things that have been shown over the last two seasons on the show was enough to make me go "huh?".

For a family who is "struggling to save each penny" and is in constant need of help, they do not seem very grateful for the various types of help they have been offered. There are no "thank you's" to the people who give up their free time to help them out. There are no handmade cards from the kids for their numerous care-givers. Instead of Kate expressing what a Godsend it is having someone come fold her mountain of laundry for her (a task that I find the most tedious in terms of the laundry process), she stood there and barked orders at this 60-something year old woman, nagging her to not mix up the various baskets of clothes.

For Christians, I find it dispicable that she has so little contact with her blood family; grandparents, aunts, uncles, and cousins. My father comes from a family of 12 kids, and although not everyone got along (for good reasons), the family made an effort to keep in touch so that all the cousins would know and grow with one another. Her attitude, holding grudges and keeping her immediate family separate from the extended one is very un-Christian, to say the least!

As far as her freebies go; I think that any struggling middle-class family would be more than happy to receive these goodies. I'm sure she is estatic to let her kids have all these material possessions that I think she may not have had growing up as a child, herself. However, let the producers show that on TV!! Hired help, private chef, vacations that are not paid for out of their own pockets, etc...If they want to indulge in their treasures, then why not be honest about it? Why doesn't she say that she has never taken care of these children ALONE a day in her life? She no longer has to SLAVE in the kitchen because her expensive organic meals are already prepared? Why not say that they are both no longer working because this show has "blessed" them with the luxury of being stay-at-home parents?

Once the truth is out there, then let the viewers decide whether or not this is the show they want to spend their Monday nights watching. Let's see how many people can still relate to this "normal" family.

I can handle that this woman is rude to her husband, the crew, and almost all the strangers she encounters. That goes without saying. What I cannot stomach is her blatant disregard for the parade of people who have been there for her and her family, and the notion that I have not once seen her teach her children to say "thank you" to anyone who has given a helping hand, a gift, a kind word or anything. As a matter of fact, "fans" who happen to run into them on the street are the first ones to tell you how incredibley RUDE they are to people who try and express how much they enjoy THEIR show!!!

While I don't condone some of the posts on this site that targets the different kids for their behavior problems, (I blame the parents for that!), I do happen to agree that TLC and the Gosselins are not truthful about their current lifestyle or their everyday lives. Unfortunately, this is no longer the cute reality show that it once was.

One last thing: I live in NY, and I have run into various REAL celebraties on the street who have been more than kind to their fans, no matter how intrusive some fans have been. For a couple who are on the cusp of stardom, they sure have a lot of rude encounters with their "fans". Perhaps they will learn another valuable lesson when this all comes to a head: Don't bite the hand that feeds you...organically.

Anonymous said...

"...she stood there barking orders at this 60-something year old woman, nagging her to not mix-up her various baskets of clothes.."

Exactly! This moment on the show was a turning point for me. Here is this nice lady offering, out of the goodness of her heart, to help Kate. I'm sure this lady saw the tups and her heart melted. I bet she thought she would spend some time playing with them, reading them books maybe. What does Kate give this woman to do, an older lady? A job Kate admits she can't stand! And she does it for 3-4 hours every week. Kate stood there laughing about it right in the lady's face. I was in shock. I wondered why the lady put up with it. But, I bet like so many good people, she thought it was her duty to help those in need when she could. I still shake my head to this day over the way Kate acted. Pure Kate.

Your post was 100% right.

I nominate this for quote of the week by katherine -

"Don't bite the hand that feeds you...organically."

Anonymous said...

I doubt this 8000SF house will be enough down the road. I can totally see them down the road complaining that when they got this house, the tups were small, and it was no problem to put the 3 boy tups in one room and the 2 girl tups in another room (Alexis in the basement). But as the tups grow into preteens and teens, they will be complaining that each need their own room, like the twins. I doubt the 8000SF house has 9 bedrooms. Maybe it does, but many of those large homes use their space in larger rooms. A house got built in the next town from me last year, it is huge, don't know the footage, but it is HUGE. Found out from a friend who was doing the electrical work in it, that it had 5 bedrooms. Hopefully by the time Kate figures out this house ain't working for them anymore, Figure 8, TLC, and the freebee machine will have moved on to the 5,000 pound dog.

Jennifer said...

The Gosselins make me sick. I can't stand to watch anymore. Kate is so rude and full of herself I can't stand it. When they said on the show Monday night that they wanted to move to a warmer climate, I couldn't help but laugh out loud. I think they're moving because most people in PA can't stand them anymore. I can only hope that what goes around comes around and that Kate will get what she deserves one day (and that is certainly not a free luxury home). I hate to think what the long-term effects of all of this will be on the children.

Anonymous said...

8,000 sq ft? what does each kid need their own 1,000 sq ft time out spot?

Anonymous said...

4 years ago they struggled to put food on the table and now they're moving into an 8,000 sf house. So did Jed, Granny, Ellie Mae, Jethro and all of the critters.

Steph said...

I don't think "anybody" would take "the house that sponsors" built. They may not encounter financial debt, but they WILL be signing up for a personal debt...a debt that means that TLC and ALL of the sponsors have the right to have their products promoted. That means that no matter how adversely affected the children may be from filming, the show WILL go on. How many separate shows will have to show the GE washer and dryer? How many more to show the Lazy Boy sofa, or Burlington carpet? None of these sponsors are doing it because they "love the family". They are in it for the advertising. We have already seen it with Juicy Juice and Johnson & Johnson, and perhaps Graco with the new car seats. (The Radian seats have mysteriously been replaced) So they are actually passing a debt on to their minor children. I know the Bible says that children can't be held responsible for the sins of their fathers...I wonder what it would say about debts?

Steph said...

Oh, and off topic, but who are we going to see the Gosselins caroling and bringing cookies to this season?
Hmmm...I guess that was a one year "family tradition".

elleroy said...

I watched parts of "Then came 6" too and I found myself thinking many of the things the previous poster mentioned. Then, when the credits rolled at the end, I noticed that the show is produced by none other than Bill Hayes and Figure 8 Films. Maybe they've decided to leave the four legged children of the world behind in exchange for the cash cow that is the current "trend" in the fascination of families with multiples. I think Figure 8 should change their name to "Sideshow Films" as they seem to be running a circus sideshow of, shall we say, "out of the norm" human experiences under the guise of promoting "understanding towards our fellow man", when in REALITY...heh....they are simply encouraging the viewer to pay their money and gawk. Next.....

Anonymous said...

I think they should name the new house

Cupcake Castle

Anonymous said...

Don't bite the hand that feeds you...organically.

LOl!!!!GREAT COMMENT!!! Nominated for best of the week!

IMHO said...

At least an 8,000sf home will stop the "love offering" process and also stop people from paying just to see J&K talk. Perhaps not right away, but one good local news reporter getting the scoop will do it.

Sadly, they may then take that leap and start bringing the kids along so we can all "see them".

Hey - maybe they'll be one of the booths at the local fairs where you pay to see things like "worlds smallest woman". (horse, pig, alligator - you name it). Climb up the stairs, pay a dollar, and you can look at Jon and Kate plus 8 in the flesh!

Anonymous said...

I'm sorry but what are the chances that Kon had this deception thought out from the beginning?? Think about it. Who in their right mind (Christian or otherwise) is going to think they will be able to support 8 kids when one wage earner is a kinda-nurse and the other is a kinda-computer geek without a college degree between them. In their defense perhaps you could say "well, they were young..." but I think even an idiot would be able to figure out that if you are bringing home X amount of dollars and you only have Y left at the end of the month with two children, then there might be a problem with 6 more children. I questioned this entire thing the first time Kate mentioned she only did organic foods. I think we all know if you go to buy anything organic that it is priced higher than it's non-organic counterpart. And to have the cash in hand to afford to buy and have butchered an entire cow?? Not cheap. Right there a red flag went up for me. Then there was the move into the larger house (unknown of course at the time that perhaps Jon's dad or his estate had helped them with that). I think this woman and by osmosis her partner in crime, maybe thought at the very beginning they could milk this. They might even have surprised themselves to the extent they have been able to carry it out. Everyone has read about or heard about other multiples being given years worth of diapers, food, formula. I recall one family who had a larger home built by the town they live in, sorry don't recall which set of multiples. It really makes one wonder, especially now that we know the length to which they are willing to carry on this deception, if this wasn't something they planned from the very beginning.
Any thoughts??

Nat said...

Ive been hearing some people comment that at least the kids will have there own rooms in the new house... BIG DEAL! Whats wrong with sharing your room with your sister/brother? I dont get it.

My mother came from a HUGE family, 12 kids! They lived in a 1400 sf house with no basement. There house had 3 bedrooms, 4 girls, 8 boys and mom and dad. My grandparents worked more then full time in there own buisiness (produce market), and my grandfather was BLIND (but according to my mom he could still find your butt when you needed a good one, haha). My grandmother managed all of this with grace and class, not only would she never accept charity but they were often the givers to those in real need. Donating food from there produce market to needy families.

All 12 kids still live in the same city and are very very close, and when they get together they still talk and laugh about the old days in that little house. Telling stories that would crack me up every time (when the girls would bring home a date and they would sit in the living room the boys would go upstairs and sit on the airvent and fart, hahah!).

I'm pretty sure they would agree that there childhood would not have been nearly as fun in an 8000 SF house where they all had there own rooms.

Anonymous said...

Seem a bit of a trend with the TLC reality show. Little people have a huge property they continiously add to and change. The family with 18 (or is it 20 now)kids have a huge home they built themselves :) and now the Gosselin crew if rumour is correct are moving into a huge home. Well, I say sometimes you have to do what you have to do in order to survive, but I do feel bad for those kids. At least in a huge home they will have space to get away from that whinning mother.

LeeAnn said...

As hard as it will be, I am done watching the show. I hope that many of you will do the same. If not, this rampage will go on. Who are we to be watching the personal lives of these kids. I am done.

Chris said...

I wonder what will happen when the Gosselins REALLY meet the south. Somehow I picture only the twins adapting to the friendliness and politeness. I can hear Madelyn now "No, ma'am. You cannot film in my bedroom."

mlou said...

RE: It really makes one wonder, especially now that we know the length to which they are willing to carry on this deception, if this wasn't something they planned from the very beginning.
Any thoughts??

I have no doubt that Kate is coniving enough to come up with all this in advance. I've often thought this myself. She has said herself that they were prepared for multiples on the second pregnancy and not just "one more baby." Of course, the sheeple would never believe this, but again this is probably just part of her master plan.

In regards to the house, even if they get to keep the house after the show is over, what about property taxes and insurance. You know property taxes on a $2 million dollar house can't be cheap. Kate will probably just give a sob story to the state and plead 8 to get tax exempt.

Anonymous said...

For comment of the week, I nominate the "Top Ten Names for the Future Gosselin Estate" and this comment:

"4 years ago they struggled to put food on the table and now they're moving into an 8,000 sf house. So did Jed, Granny, Ellie Mae, Jethro and all of the critters."

The Gosselins as Clampetts: priceless!

Anonymous said...

I am horrified that they would move to NC just for a larger home. I am the mother of 9 children, 4 girls and 5 boys (only ONE set of multiplies). The kids range in age from 1 to 15. We live in a 1200 sq. ft. apartment in NYC. 3 bedrooms; the girls share a room and the boys share one. While space is tight the kids love our home. When given the option to move last year after my husband got a new job they all said no way they didn't want their own bedrooms. I wish Kate could see that a few years from now the show will be over and the Gosselins will be living in a huge house with bills they cannot pay and no friends and family nearby.

Kristyn said...

Do they really not realize just how large their house is now? The two bedrooms upstairs that the 'tups are split between are HUGE bedrooms. Enough for 3 beds plus PLENTY of playroom. When the cameras span back and you see all the space, it's amazing how large they really are. And if they were really as strapped for space as they claim, WHY not make the room that they made into Cara and Mady's "study room", a bedroom? It's not like the girls' desks can't go into their bedroom (where they'd probably have more quiet anyway).

I wonder where they will move once the people around them in NC no longer give them their love offerings.

Anonymous said...

Re: big homes for "reality tv" families.

At least the Duggars got their home the old-fashioned way - hard work!

Travis said...

Hey, at least they're civilized enough to use the word pool instead of cement pond. But I can't really say they are civilized when Kate can't even pronounce the word civilization.

And at least if they were Clampetts the kids could see Granny.

MrsRef said...

I know I will get slammed for this but here goes. First of all Kate is a PK (preacher's kid) My daughter went to a Christian College and alot of the PK's got half or free tuition, love packages from the congregation, etc. etc. They put their needs/wants out there and people responded. We heathen parents had to pay full price and support our own children. Do you think that is where she gets her sense of entitlement. Mind you not all PK's are this way. We had a pastor at our church once whose wife had everyone in the congregation picking up her kids from school, dropping off toys, bringing meals etc. She used to complain that they did not make enough money to buy groceries etc and people would give give give.

FIONA said...

So shouldn't boys at 4 years old being standing to potty???

I mean, what is that all about anyway.....

lynn/anon1967 said...

Just an FYI, while watching the last episode, I noticed that Hamburger Helper was not only one of the sponsors, but there was a voice over saying it before the ad. Not sure if it will make any difference, but I wrote to Betty Crocker, letting them know how disappointed I was that they were involved in the exploitation of the children.

Melibee said...

OOooooh, interesting comment regarding the freebies the families of pastors so often receive! If she grew up with her hand out and experienced it always being filled with her desires it *almost* can "make sense" that she'd now have such a skewed view of entitlement.

Bicoastal said...

"And at least if they were Clampetts the kids could see Granny."

Possibly the funniest line yet!

Anonymous said...

Perhaps Jon and Kate will wait a few years and put their kids to work building a house like the Duggers did.

W&MGrad said...

If they are really making $70,000 episode (or even if they are making far less than that), shouldn't they be saving for their children's education, instead of asking others to do it for them?

kgirl said...

Funny since when did "Hamburger Helper" become organic food??

I don't understand travelling with potties either. I have a 2 1/2 yr old who is potty trained and have never once taken a potty in my car, what is wrong with pulling over? I guess it doesn't fit into the crew's schedule.

I have been reading this blog for a few weeks, came across all this info while innocently looking for the recipe for monkey munch...guess if they had the recipe on their website they may have kept one fan, at least for awhile longer.

sistah2 said...

"OOooooh, interesting comment regarding the freebies the families of pastors so often receive! If she grew up with her hand out and experienced it always being filled with her desires it *almost* can "make sense" that she'd now have such a skewed view of entitlement."

Yes, that is an eye-opener. I have often thought how ultra-competitive Kate jumped on these Christian speeches. Do you think that's a little "eff-you" to her estranged preacher father? "See dad- MORE people are lining up to hear my precious wisdom than ever lined up for you. Plus look at our love offerings - note that the peeps/sheeps are lining our pockets more than yours were..."

Serena said...

Well, Jon and Kate already knew that they have a free house designed and being built for them in North Carolina... but they didn't let that stop them from USING the real estate firm that showed them the house on Monday's Heading South episode.

Read this article for more information.

Yes, they knew damned well they were never going to consider that property, in fact the real estate firm was contacted only a few days before J&K showed up. The real estate firm thought it was a legitimate showing when J&K knew it was all just a sham.

And the WORST PART??? The poor people involved took their time and money to have personalized beach towels made up to donate to the poor, under privileged Gosselin kids.

Disgusting pigs.

(Thank you to Peggy for emailing us the link to the article.)

Anonymous said...

I believe "Betty Crocker" is owned by GENERAL MILLS....big big big company!!!

Travis said...

Monkey Munch is nothing more than Chex Muddy Buddies. The recipe is on the Chex website. My mother-in-law has been getting this for Christmas from her neighbors for years. Monkey Munch must be the "organic" version. However, if you were a "true cook" you would be able to make it without a recipe!

The link is...
http://www.chex.com/Recipes/RecipeView.aspx?RecipeId=19919&CategoryId=342

Anonymous said...

So, if they already had the new house underway and they subsequently did a show where they pretend they are "thinking about moving" and they pretend to look at properties and they throw out little clues, SCRIPTED clues about the need for the move, then is this not now a SCRIPTED show? They are now, acutally ACTING. And aren't they now subject to different rules as far as television production goes?

I'm not making accusations. I really would like to know how and if this changes their rules and the child labor laws and such.

Anonymous said...

You can also get the Monkey Munch recipe right off the Chex box, usually and for sure around the holidays. Of course, as many others have pointed out, it's known as "Muddy Buddies" on the Chex box.

It really is tasty.

Anonymous said...

I wonder if "Monkey Munch" is a name that the producers of the show made up and made her use on the air, because they couldn't promote Chex cereal and use the real name, Chex MUDDY BUDDIES.

I've never heard anyone use that name but her. I have, however, heard people refer to it as "puppy chow" and that name is probably also off limits for Tv, huh?

Anonymous said...

I have to say, the first thought that flickered through my mind when I saw those adorable personalized beach towels was that Kate was probably annoyed b/c now she couldn't consign them.

Barb said...

Those beach towels sure are cute! I wonder where they got them? Did they show up on the show?

Anonymous said...

Top Ten Names for Gosselin Estate.

The House the Gosselin Children Built.

kgirl said...

Travis: Thanks for the link to the muddy buddies recipe. However after all my searching learned chex is not sold in Canada anyway.

The insistence that they only eat organic really bothers me. I just hope now that Betty Crocker is a sponsor we won't have to hear Kate harp about her refusal to feed her kids anything but organic..when we all know whipped cream in a spray can is not organic (which the kids eat with their waffles), fast food available at various attractions is not organic etc.


However since from the "gumgate" episode we all know Kate only buys organic peanut butter, I guess she can say her monkey munch is asorganic as it can be, I have heard her use that phrase once or twice when she has had to admit to using non-organic foods.

BTW that was the first time I ever heard of peanut butter to remove gum, I have always used ice cubes.

Anonymous said...

kgirl said...
Travis: Thanks for the link to the muddy buddies recipe. However after all my searching learned chex is not sold in Canada anyway.

Kgirl, if you can get "Crispex" cereal, that's about the same and will work just fine for the Muddy Buddies.

mlou said...

RE:Perhaps Jon and Kate will wait a few years and put their kids to work building a house like the Duggers did.

I don't see anything wrong with teaching your kids they have to work for what they have. I don't think it is fair to compare the Duggars to Kon. First of all they wear handmade clothes and the ones that aren't handmade are bought at the thrift store. I don't see Melissa Duggar coming out of the Gap with freebies. They are teaching their children to be debt free. Kon is in debt to everyone, but you won't see them giving anything back. Also, the Duggars' home was not built over night, it took several years, they built as they could. Yes, they were helped with the decorating of it, but that is a far cry from what Kon has received from TLC and everyone else who have been suckers. I just had to vent.

nolongerafan said...

Re: The Duggar's (who give me the creeps)...Although they bought the kits for their home and built most of it themselves; there was a special that showed TLC sending in carpenters, and other trades people to finish the home. Then they got the entire house furnished (including appliaces...several washers and dryers, two ovens, etc.) as gifts from TLC (or their sponsors.) Somehow I believe that they are more thankful for what they received free from TLC, but I wanted to point out that they did not pay for everything themselves.

linnea said...

...."I'm sorry but what are the chances that Kon had this deception thought out from the beginning?? Think about it. Who in their right mind (Christian or otherwise) is going to think they will be able to support 8 kids when one wage earner is a kinda-nurse and the other is a kinda-computer geek without a college degree between them...."

You hit the nail right on the head Anon. 08:22. I live in Central PA and remember the hoopla surrounding the tups birth. Actually, Kon went to the local media before the tups birth to make sure we all knew it was coming and to donate accordingly. A few weeks before the tups arrived, Jon went to the Patriot News and gave a sad story about how his mean employer fired him for missing too much work. Readers were conveniently directed to his new gosselinsix.com website so we could contribute to items from their "wish list." Jon's employer contacted the Patriot and made it very clear they DID NOT FIRE JON. He just stopped showing up one day, and they didn't apreciate having their name dragged through the mud. Some of his co-workers said Jon acted he was never going to have to work again and spoke of the things they would receive like the other famous multiples families got. I knew right then these people were scam artists and gave them not another thought until Nursegate came up a year later. My blood boiled when I read how Kon kept appealing PA's decision to cut off their nurse and when Kate whined "it's noooooot faaaaiirrrr" that she had to be alone with 8 kids every day. They gave these interviews where all they did was complain and whine and bitch and moan about their hardships and how people should just give them whatever they needed to raise these kids. They said these things ON THE RECORD because are deluded nutcases, but they strongly felt no one should deny them anything. When the article came out people went crazy, writing letters to the editor and ripping Kon a new one because of how outrageous they sounded. a Only after that is when Kon claimed the whole article was fabricated. Correct me if I'm wrong insdiers, but didn't they move to MD for awhile because of the bad reaction to them after that?

Fast foward to now, my Mom started watching the show last year and loved it, until cupcakegate. When she told me about that her eyes teared up and she said she will never watch again. I did some investigating and found this blog and many others who feel this show is exploiting the kids. I didn't like Kon 4 years ago, I intensely dislike them now, and will do what I can to contact sponsers, TLC etc. to get this show off the air.

Anonymous said...

My vote for comment of the week: "Here's an idea for a "reality" show. The Real Gosselins. Someone needs to follow them around AND their enabling crew and made a documentary about it."

Now, that would be interesting...

Ravello said...

I'm laughing out loud at all the comments in this thread. Love the reference to Lord and Lady Gosselin, a very good description of the KONS.
The realtors giving monogrammed towels to the kids is probably a drop in the bucket of all the Freebies the KONS get.
I agree with the poster who said they are probably unhappy with the monograms, it would be easier to consign out without names.
I'll bet she takes many of the donated items directly to consignment, the kids probably dont even wear half of it. It seems like they are getting tons of free merchandise.

It is sad to think there are hungry people in the US while the KONS get all this misdirected generosity.

Anonymous said...

Why do people keep buying them things? How STUPID are people? I guess people without lives live vicariously through others and Kate figured this out long ago.
I've stopped watching the show. Boring and pointless. If the sheeples have not figured it out by now they never will. They need to get a life!
One of my favorite sayings:
"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups." I think that fits the bill here.

Anonymous said...

RE: the Duggars

I'm not a huge Duggar fan but in my opnion they at least send the message that they try to be thrifty and sensible and that they are appreciative of what they are given, as opposed to the Gosselins who try to hide what they have so the Gravy Train doesn't stop.

That said, I wonder how long until Jon and Kate "work" to figure out how they can have thier home designated a church too so that they can get out of paying property taxes, much like Jim Bob Duggar is rumored to have done.

Anonymous said...

"TV show aids renovations of sextuplets' house

Date: June 22, 2004
Page: A01

Good things keep happening to the Berks County couple who became parents of sextuplets last month.


Kate and Jonathan Gosselin have six healthy babies and expect to take at least two home this week.


Dozens of people from their church are renovating their tiny house in Wyomissing and planning to provide round-the-clock help with the babies.


Local businesses and national corporations have donated thousands of dollars' worth of goods and gift certificates for... "


I found this in the archives of the Patriot News after Linnea mentioned my post (Anon 08:22). I was curious when she mentioned articles in that particular paper. Unfortunately you have to pay to view the entire article but there are several references to the Gs and their whining and you can read small snippets of each. As this was only a month into this fiasco and they were already getting 'thousands of $$ worth of donations" I think the writing was on the wall. What else did Kate have to do all that time in the hospital except come up with plans on how to work the system. It's amazing the stuff that people in PA were privy to that the rest of America had to suss out for themselves. Thanks to GWOP for bringing reality back to reality tv.

Anonymous said...

I disagree with the comments about the towels which were made up for the kids by the VA realtor. They actually would have a lot more value, not for consignment, but on eBay. Imagine - Go$$elin towels, $1000.00 per towel, or (a bargain) $8000.00 for the complete set. What a deal!

With regards to people being stupid and donating things (money, etc) to the Go$$elin$. Yes, people can be very blinded by what they see, as was the case with me in my former life as a Sheeple, but I think their intentions are well meaning. And yes, their efforts can be put towards others who really need it. At this point, the Go$$elin$ don't need it.

Anonymous said...

That's some interesting info, linnea. Imagine if they had put all that time, effort, and preparation into giving their children happy, healthy lives the HONEST way, instead of creating such a mess. No, all the freebies and perks would not be there, but I truly believe those kids would have a much more fulfilling and blissful childhood. And, Jon and Kate could be proud of the life they had made for themselves and those kids. It really is a sad situation, and it’s terrible that it’s going to have to turn into such a train wreck before J&K realize it.

Speaking of honesty, it kills me that they really push for honesty in their children, but certainly do not model honest behavior. I’m watching Mady’s special day, and Kate mentions that Mady often has trouble telling the truth. In Cooking with the Twins (I think), one of the boy tups gets in trouble about having an accident and lying about it. Those are some specific examples, and I know there are many others. What do they expect??? Yes, the kids are young, but they can undoubtedly pick up on the lies that must be a constant part of their parents’ lives.

And I would looooove to see “The Real Gosslins,” Anon 2:29.

Anonymous said...

Another quick thought:
You know during the birthday episode and Kate was talking about really wanting to do another blow out/over the top circus ( and I use that term lightly )?
Who would have attended?? NO ONE!!They've burned just about every bridge they ever had.
More than likely the reason it was kept small......................

Anonymous said...

"The House That Greed Built."

PRICELESS.

Anonymous said...

"If they are really making $70,000 episode (or even if they are making far less than that), shouldn't they be saving for their children's education, instead of asking others to do it for them?"

If they are making $70K per episode they SHOULD be paying for alot of things themselves instead of taking hand out after hand out as if they were a charity case. J & K are truly of the misguided mentality that EVERYONE owes them!
But for reasons that I cannot for the life of me understand, people continue to give and give to their 'cause'.

Anonymous said...

***My vote for comment of the week: "Here's an idea for a "reality" show. The Real Gosselins. Someone needs to follow them around AND their enabling crew and made a documentary about it."

Now, that would be interesting...***

all i can say is *very* good idea!

the next best thing is to get everyone to swear off the show to bring down the ratings. does this blog have enough unique visits to make an impact on TLC though???

Jinxie said...

Just wanted to comment on Kate's new wardrobe. Most of the clothes she has been wearing come from the summer selection at Ann Taylor Loft. I shop there often and have seen most of the pieces she has worn on the show there. They just started to have their summer sale, so Kate probably bought these items full price (or had them donated?). A new summer wardrobe from LOFT is not exactly cheap. I would also like to add that Kate should not wear sleeveless tops/tanktops...she does not have the arms for them!

Can someone explain "Kon" to me? I assume it is a combination of Jon and Kate, but also that they are con artists?

Love how everyone is wearing Crocs-I bet those were all donated too! I have a feeling the sh*t is going to hit the fan very soon with this show.

Mady Rocks said...

"Do Not Look At Our Waves"

So Funny!

Another thing, what did happen to all of those "family traditions"

One was already mentioned, the Caroling. Wonder if Movie Nite was still happening. Can anyone think of anymore? Kate makes so much money she can now afford that boob job she originally wanted.

Anonymous said...

Well, I see that Bicoastal has done it again. Your posts make me chuckle to myself long after the fact. You are so witty and clever! I love these two selections for the new Mcmansion "au sud."
Malaprop Estates
Casa de Shrew y No Cajones
Keep it coming, Bicoastal!!!

Anonymous said...

I love the comment the Anonymous poster made about the beach towels on eBay - heck, that would be a goldmine for our Thrifty Couple! Also, how appropriate is this - Go$$elin$ (spelled with $ signs!) Genious!

Anonymous said...

In reference to 'Mady Rocks" comment about the family traditions - Caroling and Movie Nite -they were probably ideas from the show's producer - don't think we're going to see caroling again, especially since they've alienated all their friends and family. Wonder where Kon keeps their ca$h register!

Anonymous said...

Ugh. I can see it already. What a smooth transition it will be from reality TV "star" and "motivational" speaker (aka scammer)to demanding stage mom/manager. After all she's been in the business and she doesn't want anyone else to make money off her kids, so of course she will become their "manager" so she can maintain control of the money as well as the kids.

Isolating them from other family members by moving to NC where child labor laws are lax is merely stage one.

What breaks my heart most of all, besides the kids, of course, is the money donated via the love offerings from good, hardworking families who will never make an annual salary close to what (Jon and Kate Plus 8 Eight) is paid for one episode of the show. And, unless they watch and listen very closely, or go looking for answers on line, they will never know the truth. At least not for a while.

BK said...

The bit about Jon's job still frosts me. And, if you haven't notice, the reason he was fired has been changed a couple of times. At first, as it says in the Patriot, he claimed he was fired for too many absenses (because "Kate needed him at the hospital."). Note: Not that Maddy and Cara needed him. When the employer called shenanigans on that excuse, then Jon puffed it up to "they wouldn't let me have health insurance and fired me so that they wouldn't have to pay." THAT was bull pucky as well. What actually happened was his employer sat him down and said, "This is how much a family of ten would have to pay for coverage." And, basically, for better or worse, it was expensive. Duh! Most families of four struggle with insurance premuims and deductibles. But, hang on...that excuse isn't right either. The tups got free medical care because of their premature status. So, really, all Jon would've had to cover were himself, Kate, and the twins. Once you really start thinking about the crap they're peddeling, it's hard to stop.

I, too, have no doubt in my mind that Kate knew EXACTLY what she was doing the day she walked out of that hospital for hyperstimulated ovaries. She *knew* what could happen. What makes me sick is that, as a nurse and mother of twins, she KNEW what being premature could do to a child. Still, she chose to go home and have sex. I remember hearing that the doctor who put her inpatient for the hyperstimulation was furious when he did the math. So, do I think Kate planned on this? You bet. Although, I disagree with it being a result of having been a preacher's kid. Don't let her fool you - she wanted for NOTHING in her life. Her other siblings aren't like this. I think the wheels began turning after the twins were born. The church community and neighborhood area went bonkers over Maddy and Cara. They got products donated, then, too. Kate called around to local stores to ask about discounts for moms of multiples. Most places gave her one (or freebies). I think Kate realized that there was a lucrative life to be had if you played it right. I've been present when Kon has said things about other parents of multiples. People have asked them why they feel like they should have a show while, say, the Dilleys or McCaugheys don't. Their response was that "they got free things, too. Why shouldn't we accept what God gives us through other people?" Maybe because it's unethical, but,...you know, that's just me. The Dilleys and McCaugheys got what the NEEDED...not what they WANTED. And, they accepted ALL gifts graciously. Bobby McCaughey didn't walked around a new home and whine about the color of carpet or paint that was donated. She didn't gripe about the size of the kitchen or throw her hands up in disgust when the cameras stopped filming. Bobby didn't drama queen and say, "They ruined the house."

Oh yeah! The McC's also made it a RULE that any media photographs had to include their singleton daughter so as to make her feel included. Jon and Kate registered a website that disregarded the twins.

I'll stop comparing,...because, there's no comparrison. Some people conduct themselves with dignity and class. Other's do not.

Anonymous said...

BK said: I, too, have no doubt in my mind that Kate knew EXACTLY what she was doing the day she walked out of that hospital for hyperstimulated ovaries. She *knew* what could happen. What makes me sick is that, as a nurse and mother of twins, she KNEW what being premature could do to a child. Still, she chose to go home and have sex. I remember hearing that the doctor who put her inpatient for the hyperstimulation was furious when he did the math.
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A lot of people who post here have said numerous times that they do not think Kate was/is smart enough to craft a plan like this in advance. While I think Kate has well below average intellectual capabilities, I have always believed she planned out this entire farce well in advance. She is a manipulative shrew and she pulled Jon-boy into her web. She knows a sucker when she sees one. I agree totally with BK. I think Kate is actually way more evil and pathological than we can even imagine. Time will prove this to be correct - hopefully the kids will not suffer inordinately because of this.

Anonymous said...

The people who donate to Kon are the same kind of clueless people who gave money to Jim and Tammy Faye Baker. Or as my husband jokes when quoting Uncle Eddie in Lampoon Xmas Vacation,"If only we hadn't sent all our money to that TV preacher"!!

Serena said...

Jon's employer contacted the Patriot and made it very clear they DID NOT FIRE JON. He just stopped showing up one day, and they didn't apreciate having their name dragged through the mud. Some of his co-workers said Jon acted he was never going to have to work again and spoke of the things they would receive like the other famous multiples families got.

Linnea -- would you please contact me at serenaleighbell@yahoo.com regarding the post you made earlier that includes these comments? Thanks.

Anonymous said...

Heh, I wonder if Kate was annoyed that she only got bath towels from the realtors.

I've finally decided to stop watching this show because I feel guilty in watching a reality show about children when I would never allow my children to be in such a show. Sadly, I can see this show going on for many years. I know that people say that the little kid stage is not as cute as the baby stage, but that might be a problem in this case. People are invested in this family's life. They want to know what happens to the kids. I think this show could go on for many years.

The one thing that I'm grateful for, is it seems like Kate & Jon are done with the church circuit - although I'm waiting for the day that Kate is part of the women of faith conferences (and, yes, I'd totally go, because I'm that curious).

ON another note - Kate is so uneducated that it makes me laugh. The queen of grammar indeed. Some of the nonsense that comes out of her mouth amuses me, and she has the audacity to call Jon out for his little mistakes.

Anonymous said...

BK said: And, if you haven't notice, the reason he was fired has been changed a couple of times. At first, as it says in the Patriot, he claimed he was fired for too many absenses (because "Kate needed him at the hospital."). Note: Not that Maddy and Cara needed him. When the employer called shenanigans on that excuse, then Jon puffed it up to "they wouldn't let me have health insurance and fired me so that they wouldn't have to pay."

Jon's "reasons" for his shady job history are bogus. First of all, he would have been entitled to three months of FMLA (Family and Medical Leave Act). As I understand it, Grandma Kreider was looking after Mady and Cara when Kate was in the hospital. However, if Jon felt he needed to be there more, he could have taken "intermittent" FMLA while Kate was in the hospital prior to the tups birth and full FMLA once the tups were born. Employers cannot mess with FMLA. It is a federal law and he would have been fully protected under it. Obviously, as BK has already stated,
the "insurance" issue is totally bogus as well. All this supports the theory that KON planned never to work again and ride the backs of the kids indefinitely. This premeditation, in my opinion, is truly evil.

SmartyQ said...

It really makes one wonder, especially now that we know the length to which they are willing to carry on this deception, if this wasn't something they planned from the very beginning.
I think the beginning occurred when Kate hyperovulated, and I think that's what she hoped would happen. I think there never was a plan for 'just one more.' I believe the month of 'mourning and praying' was how long it took her to convince Jon he would benefit too. Certainly, by then, she knew he didn't have the ambition of a shoe.

I believe that she insisted on 'no reduction' but believe it happened after she knew she was pregnant with seven. What I don't believe is that she was insistent on no reduction because of her religious beliefs but because the gravy train had started to roll, and she wanted it to gather speed—not derail.

I also believe that she became a nurse because she hoped to bag a doctor. I don't think she had a horrible childhood that made her resentful of men. I think she really resents Jon because he was all she could get, and she is reminded of that every time she looks at that little peanut.

Finally, I believe she resents all of the tups except Hannah. They too are a reminder of what she had to do to her body and of the hoops she had (and will have) to go through (eg, pretending to enjoy family outings, pretending she even likes to be with the kids) to assure she can get the fame and wealth she craves.

MrsRef said...

Sadly, someone would probably buy the towels on e-bay. Didn't someone sell Brittny Spear's underwear or something. Also, if they can afford a $2 million dollar house, do you think they could/should pay back the State of Pa.some of the funds expended so that others can get some medical care?

Nettey said...

Forgive me if this has been posted before. But a little background on Then Came Six, the new show on TLC. The Harris family was also featured on Extreme Makeover Home Edition. I think it was in 2005. They live in Birmingham, AL , close to where I live. So they've already received a big house from a TV show. : )

SmartyQ said...

Many people have commented that Jon and Kate read this so even if they may not be the best parents should we really be making fun of their looks. They deserve some form of respect. Would we make that kind of comment to anyone on the street or we see at the beach.
Respect is earned, and so far, I haven't seen Kon earn a plugged nickel's worth. I don't give respect for a free tummy tuck, free hair plugs, free teeth whitening, (probably) for free Botox or for exploiting their children. I wouldn't expect to know such things about anyone I saw on the street or at the beach, which is another reason not to respect Kon.

bigsis88 said...

A lot of the information I have read hear has helped clear up a lot of my confusion as to how J&K became so "famous" (and I use that term loosely). I am the older sister of triplets (who are natural and Black, i.e., pretty rare) who were born before the fertility craze/advances of today. My mom received no freebies, no discounts, our family wasn't in the newspaper, etc. The only vaguely exciting thing I remember was when the Jerry Springer's producers called and asked her 2 be on the show (she said no, of course.) It's despicable and a grim sign of the times, IMO, when children, one of life's greatest blessings, are treated like commodities.

Manda said...

Yes, Nettey, and Jon was none too happy about their fortune as well. His response to questions of why he couldn't just be happy for them:

Don't get me wrong. I loved the house. But as a father of 8 kids4 year old twins GG and 10 month old sextuplets BBB GGG it is a big change in the monthly bills from 2000 sq. ft to 5200 sq.ft. I wonder what the utilities are a month. Here they went from mortgage free (community donated $ to pay off mortgage) to a reaccessment of $2 million house. Maybe 5200 sq. ft is too much. If it were me I would be worried about paying my new bills. Also we were on a tv show that supposedly donated all the building materials then why did I get a 1099-misc income form for $59000 from NBC. Interesting? I pray and hope ABC doesn't do the samething to the Harrises. Otherwise I am happy for them. I know how much work it is and I know what it is like to lose your income. After we found our we were having six kids my employer told me that he couldn't afford our insurance and he fired me. I tried to fight in court but in PA "fire at will" is legal. So I was unemployed for 8 months. You might ask "I thought insurance isn't based upon qunatity of kids?" It depends on the policy. But employers might think of down the road problems. These kids could all be high risk. So all in all CONGRADULATIONS HARRIS FAMILY!!!!!!! Just be careful. Take it day by day or moment by moment. GOD will take care of you!!!Daddyof8Jonathan Gosselin

http://www.tripletconnection.org/triplet_forum/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=135&topic_id=87953&mesg_id=87953&listing_type=search

IMHO said...

Me again. Anonymous 9:25 pm said : "The one thing that I'm grateful for, is it seems like Kate & Jon are done with the church circuit - although I'm waiting for the day that Kate is part of the women of faith conferences (and, yes, I'd totally go, because I'm that curious).

Their speaking engagement link on this blog shows all kinds of churches yet. Hopeully THAT will end soon

Serena said...

We as viewers do not see their lives 24/7 so who are we to say that we can not respect them.

You don't need to see them 24/7 to decide whether or not you're going to respect unprincipled parents who shamelessly exploit their children.

I grew up in a family that encouraged respect to all people.

I grew up in a family that encouraged discernment and the value of principles. Don't be so open-minded that your brains fall out. Respect is meaningless if it is passed out indiscriminately, so that those who exploit their children are respected just as those who take the higher road.

Anonymous said...

Regarding Jon's response on the triplet forum, is there proof that he went to court to get his job back? He is so full of shit.

I wonder how the good folks that gave up a portion of their weekly food budget to chip in and buy the sextuplets diapers, formula or other donations feel about the Gosselins looking at 2 million dollar properties and going on very expensive vacations. It's funny, there was a rerun on today where they were reading their "mission statement". I had to laugh out loud especially at the parts where they said they would "give back". HA HA, that's a good on.

Ok, this is it...I'm done with this show. Kids are cute but this has become the Jon and Kate road show and I feel like staying home.

SmartyQ said...

how awful would you feel to read on the internet someone thinks you should not dress a certain way because your arms are not good enough. I respect Jon and Kate because they have raised 8 healthy children and I think that is reason enough.
Why would I feel bad if someone I didn't know, whom I didn't respect, whose feelings about me were immaterial to me criticized my arms on a website? Boy, the day that matters is the day I'll lie down to begin my big dirt nap 'cause life wouldn't be worth living at that point.

Kon haven't reared any children, healthy or otherwise, yet. The twins are nearly 8, and the tups are 4. Let's talk in 20 years—if someone on the net hasn't dealt me a mortal insult. :)

chick said...

imho, this is my theory. I know someone will have more/better info.

I believe that what likely happened is that when Kate's ovaries hyperstimulated she was told by her doctor that the cycle was a bust and NOT to have sex, because the risk of HOM's would be astronomical. I would guess that the offer was made to do an egg retrieval, so that an IVF cycle could be done the NEXT month.

I believe that Kate rejected the idea of retrieval, and went home and deliberately had sex, intending to get pregnant despite the inherant risks. She took a HUGE gamble, and she won. (I shudder to think of what she would be like now if one or more of the tups had had serious long-term medical issues or required 24/7 nursing care.)

I believe that IVF would not have resulted in sextuplets, because even 4 years ago, no decent and honorable doctor would have implanted 6 (or more) embryos in a healthy 28 yo who had ovulated so easily and responsively and who already had a history of multiple births.

I have heard and read that today HOM's are seen as bad results when achieved with assisted reproductive technology. Humans are made to gestate one or two babies, not 4, 5, 6, or more.

Do I think Kate deliberately decided to try to get pregnant with HOMs, anticipating the windfalls she'd get? I don't know. I do know that as a nurse of sorts, she should have known what she was risking and had the good sense to follow the advice a reputable doctor would have given her.

Anonymous said...

Murf--To say that we don't see their lives 24/7 seems a weak argument.
We have seen hours upon hours of their harsh, confusing, begging life. That's enough time to make a good assessment of these people.
Remember, they are ASKING us to watch everything they do.

Ravello said...

Kate herself knew she was overstimulated the month she became pregnant with the tups. She herself said she was even hospitalized for ovarian overtstimulation.
It has been reported on TWOP and GWOP that Kate's doctor probably refused to inseminate. IUI is performed after an ultrasound counts the follicles. At least 7 follicles were on board. HOM are to be avoided. Kate was in a hurry, probably took matters into her own hands.

Some posters upthread are concerned we do not show enough respect to the KONS. I attended one of their Love offering events in February and they told quite a tale of woe. The basket was passed for their benefit. At the time , we didn't know Jon had quit his job with the state of PA. He was not working any job and yet they had the nerve to ask hard working people to dig into their pockets to support their lifestyle.

sistah2 said...

I think we are on to something here. Yesterday, "Truth" posted a very interesting answer to a question relating to the whole theory upthread that the mulitples-scam/plan to never work again was planned out by Kon before the tups were born, and they openly told family members. Maybe the blog administrators can link it somewhere, and tie it in with the above statements concerning Jon quitting his job at the time.
I used to think there was no way anyone could be that sick to plan this, but I am starting to think its possible. Kate just seems to love money & fame too much. What especially freaked me out about Truth's post was the assertion that Kate is determined to stay in the TV world come hell or high water. I think she will plan getting the kids in a Disney-ish show when the reality show ends.
I do not think Kate has a conscience.

girlie girl said...

Why are some saying Kate went home with hyper-stimulated ovaries and had sex? Wait a minute, ladies --- let's not get crazy with this theory ... they clearly SAID they had an IUI.... so I'm guessing if they lied outright and just went home and had sex after the IUI was cancelled by the doctor ... then someone,somewhere would have ratted them out on that. I'm sure they actually HAD the IUI, and you know what... as someone who's had many of them, you sort of expect you could have twins, but having 6 .... I'm telling you, that was very very rare for an IUI!!! So what I'm saying is that I doubt very much they had the whole shibbang planned, and tried for a bunch of babies so they could do all this. I just don't think it was pre-planned. That being said ... they certainly DID take advantage of the situation, that's for sure !!!!

Anonymous said...

I, too, saw the repeated episode where they read their 'Gosselin Family Mission Statement' and damn near barfed up a lung laughing! It was craptastic!

Bee said...

"Ok, this is it...I'm done with this show. Kids are cute but this has become the Jon and Kate road show and I feel like staying home."

I nominate this for quote of the week!

Anonymous said...

girlie girl said: They clearly SAID they had an IUI.... so I'm guessing if they lied outright and just went home and had sex after the IUI was cancelled by the doctor ... then someone,somewhere would have ratted them out on that.
----
I think they did lie outright. How could they be "ratted out?" Neither the doctor nor the hospital are going to do it. They have to protect patient confidentiality and further, are mandated under HIPAA to keep all medical records/information absolutely private under lock and key.

SmartyQ said...

Why are some saying Kate went home with hyper-stimulated ovaries and had sex? Wait a minute, ladies --- let's not get crazy with this theory ... they clearly SAID they had an IUI.... so I'm guessing if they lied outright and just went home and had sex after the IUI was cancelled by the doctor ... then someone,somewhere would have ratted them out on that.
Who could have contradicted Katie Irene? The doc and his staff are bound by professional ethics until Katie dies. Kon can say whatever they please, including at what point in the tups' gestation they were born, and the doc must keep silent. We've seen lie after lie coming from Kon's mouths, why believe anything they say?

IMHO said...

To Chick: Thanks for the insight! Just curious - does anyone know if they ever SAID how they actually got pregnant. Other than the obvious, LOL!

To Sistah2: Any idea where Jodi's comment is? I hunted around a bit but could not find.... (the one about pre-planning and bragging). I am having a bit of a hard time believing ANYONE would do that. I don't care for Kate at all and I'm starting to also dislike Jon, but not because of what they wear and how they look or even what they get for free. More so, it's how they have become the "rich man" that no longer fits thru the eye of the needle. I firmly believe that parable isn't about the unsaved but more about those so gripped by cash they can't see what is right in front of them (The Kingdom of God). But at that, I'm still not ready to make them out to be complete monsters. I guess I'm looking for proof that they aren't (more than proof that they are). Heavy sigh....

W&MGrad said...

RE: The whole IUI, did they or didn't they speculation.

The following is anecdotal evidence about a couple that we know who have been going though IUI.

We have friends who are in a same-sex relationship and are currently working with a surrogate to have a child. They have chosen IUI because, in their circumstance of all-around healthy individuals who aren't doing it "the old fashioned way", it was the best choice for them.

Anyway, I was talking to one of them and he said he had seen J&K+8 a couple times and said that was why they didn't want to go the route of IVF (other than "naturally occuring" twins, they didn't want to run the risk of multiples). When I told him that J&K said that had had IUI, not IVF he refused to believe me. He said that no doctor (not only had they consulted many doctors in their research before beginning this undertaking, but his partner is also a doctor), would perform IUI on someone who a-had already had a multiple birth and b-was on fertility drugs.

A few days later, he saw the episode where J&K say that they had IUI. He called us immediately and claimed that J&K had to be either lying or they somehow were able to get a less than ethical doctor who would be willing to do this.

I'm not saying that J&K are lying about the IUI. Frankly, I find it easier to believe that they had a shifty doctor. I just wanted to pass that story on.

Anonymous said...

I wish we would hear from Julie so that we know everything is OK with her, Jodi and their families. After having watched the recent episodes of "Kon & Co." there is definitely something missing without Jodi, Beth and the others. The family is now being treated as a "commodity" separated from the rest of the real world. My hat is off to Julie, as she showed a great deal of courage to step forward and present the facts.

lynn/anon1967 said...

There are quite a few comments from Jon on the triple connection link upthread, one that really caught my eye was..
#87995, "RE: Extreme Makeover Home Edition"
"In response to Reply # 41


They still will get reappraised and have to pay property tax based on the value of their homw. And last nights episode was worth way more than $50,000. Trust me they will get a 1099-misc form. Nothing is for free.


Daddyof8
TWIN GIRLS 10/08/2000
SEXTUPLETS BBB GGG 05/10/2004
www.sixgosselins.com"

sistah2 said...

imho: look under the "questions and answers" portion of this blog. I believe "truth" posted yesterday about this.

Anonymous said...

It will never end until Jon and Kate want it to end. Just on this sight alone, whether for or against, they are still getting exposure. I don't care for them but it is like passing a bad car wreck.....you are afraid you will see something horrible but you still look and rubber neck and waste time looking. Also, bad press is better than no press at all.

Sharla said...

I have a feeling that Kate and Jon will never pull the plug. TLC will eventually make a financial decision when either viewership drops and thus advertising rates go down or the show becomes too expensive to make and thus unprofitable. Given the expense we've already seen outlayed this season, they'd better be pulling in the advertisers or it won't be profitable very long. I have a funny feeling Kate hasn't followed the careers of many TV "stars" who kept asking for more and more both money and perks until the network just said enough is enough. There are starving actors out there who will work for close to base pay and not be primadonnas. The tipping point will hit and TLC will just give their agent a call. I know they aren't actors in the traditional sense, but similar rules apply. TLC already has several families with specials and new shows in preparation. They don't expect this one to last years and years.

Lauri said...

TLC will never pull the plug on this show...are you kidding! With the controversy all these sites are raising, their viewership has went through the roof. Good, bad, or indifferent, people are tuning in to watch this sideshow act, but instead of the bearded lady and man with two heads, we get the porcupine headed lady and man with no balls.

Sally said...

All shows end eventually especially reality shows. :) They just become unprofitable or the people quit. Here it will be the accountants ending it.

mlou said...

RE:Good, bad, or indifferent, people are tuning in to watch this sideshow act, but instead of the bearded lady and man with two heads, we get the porcupine headed lady and man with no balls.


I nominate this for comment of the week!

Barbara said...

I think it takes an enormous leap to believe that Kate would have "planned" all this so she could have a life style she wanted. I think she is mean, rude beyond words, uncaring, thoughtless and so many other things, but I don't think we should carry it out to the extreme of planning all these kids for future fame and glory. IF that is true, then I lose tremendous respect for Jodi and Kevin. I have thought all along they were really nice people who got treated really badly, but if they knew all this -- and according to Julie, they did -- then they are complicit in the deceit and the tricks played on innocent people to get money from them any way possible. Complicit because they went along with the charade and I don't care how "nice" or "sweet" someone is, they should be willing to come forward and tell what the real situation was and is so that J&K can be stopped. I don't care anymore (and at one point I really did) what the problems are with her parents, his mother and all the rest. But they could shed some light on how deceitful and dishonest they people are. Wow, reality TV. Who would have thought it could have gotten so bad and be anything BUT reality.

The Truth Will Set You Free said...

"A few days later, he saw the episode where J&K say that they had IUI. He called us immediately and claimed that J&K had to be either lying or they somehow were able to get a less than ethical doctor who would be willing to do this."

J&K are not lying about having IUI. I just now read "our story" on their website and it is full of "untruths".

cartersmom said...

First of all, ALL of the fertility doctors in my area will not do ANYTHING until you have tried the old fashioned way for a year, whether or not you are diagnosed with a "condition"l

Secondly, I agree with the comment that no doctor in their right mind would do IUI on a couple that already had multiples. In one episode, Kate said the second time they went back the first cycle failed and they switched doctors and were pregnant the next month. Apparently, they went doctor shopping until they'd find one who was shady enough to do what they wanted.

I have a child via IVF but my husband and I tried IUI for two months first. It is FAR less expensive than IVF. After two unsuccessful months, we decided with our doctor to do IVF because I was close to hyperstimulation myself (though not hospitalized). We chose not to gamble based on the advice of our doctor. Kate's first doctor probably told her the same thing!

We did one IVF cycle and I became pregnant with our son.

Oh, well just thought I'd share.

Anonymous said...

Kate's starts out her day, with her pretending to be tired in the morning from looking after 8 children, the day before. When in actuality we all know, that she is really just tired from picking up and arranging all the freebies that she got from the Gap
She pretends throughout the day to fix a meal, serve a meal and then clean up a meal. After a meal it is time to pretend to do some interacting with the tups. This is all done from the comforts of her throne, aka the plastic lawn chair. It is back inside for another pretend-a-meal, and clean-up a meal. With a mid-day treat that Kate has been waiting for all morning. That is putting the tups and herself down for their 3 hour nap. Tups wake up, and Twins come home from school. The twins home from school is the worst part of her day, and she really has to kick up her pretending a notch just to make it through the remainder of the day. So Kate musters up a smile and pretends to be happy to see the twins home from school, and serves yet another pretend-a-meal. After pretending to clean up a meal. She can now pretend to be the sh**, while she orders Monkey boy Jon to get the children bathed and in bed in only 8 secs flat. That is one sec per child.

Anybody in their right mind would know all that pretending would leave any Stay at home Mom sooooo exhausted. It makes me exhausted just thinking about it.

Anonymous said...

I am just guessing, but how long can the show keep going on once the tups reach school age? Unless Kate intends to be a HomeSchoolMom (?), once the kids are off to school, I doubt very much any school will allow cameras to follow them in the classroom. The only excitement we will be treated to is a tired Kate at the spa getting her toenails painted, Jon playing endless rounds of golf or going to the gym. I can't see how the charade is going to be kept alive.

Anonymous said...

I was warned by my doc during IVF, that if I overstimulated, it was very dangerous and the cycle would be cancelled and I would have to have a shot of something to bring me out of it.

I also don't know how they could have afforded any fertility treatments

Serena said...

I am just guessing, but how long can the show keep going on once the tups reach school age? Unless Kate intends to be a HomeSchoolMom (?), once the kids are off to school, I doubt very much any school will allow cameras to follow them in the classroom.

Perhaps their new home needs so much space because they have to include the classroom(s) for the homeschooling. Which will be done by hired help, certainly not by Jon or Kate. Maybe Jon and/or Kate could attend some of the classes and learn a few things along with the children.

MusicMama said...

J&K are not lying about having IUI. I just now read "our story" on their website and it is full of "untruths".

Pretty much a forgone conclusion. Do you feel comfortable elaborating on this?

Jan L. said...

Here is a list of upcoming episodes:
"We've Only Just Begun to Scam"
(a wedding theme)
"Commercials are Calling Us"
(Kate pays/forces agents to include her kids in commercials--girls only)
"Knee pads Don't Last Long"
(will show Kate constantly scrubbing the floors)
"Organic and Natural"
(Kate lets her brown hair grow back)
"Aggi-laters and Crocs"
(one kid loves aggi-laters, but we ALL wear Crocs!)
"Crowns and Caps Galore"
(they find out what Juicy Juice really does to teeth)
"Bigger Bandaids, please"
(they find out that love taps cause bruises)
"Mirror, Mirror on the Wall"
(One girl looks in mirror and sees Kate reflected back)
"Signs of the Times"
(small lawn signs are replaced by large, lit up, rolling signs on NC property)
"Don't Leave Me This Way"
(they beg from interview chair for their viewers not to leave them)
"Who's Your Momma"
(kids begin calling Jen Mommy)

Anonymous said...

What I loved about that Virginia house, was that it could accommodate everyone!
Parents' bedroom was downstairs...Cara and Mady each get a room, and the last room would be for the 6 kids and Jen!
Perfect!
And THIS is supposed to be a reality show? (pssst...Jon & Kate think the pbulic is stupid.)

Julie411 said...

"I had a nagging feeling since I was a child that I would have a hard time getting pregnant. So, that fall ..."

This is the quote that ALWAYS had me thinking, "Yeah, Riiiight."

I ask you all this: How many of your children have nagging feelings about their own fertility?

iluveeyore said...

imho said:
BK Said: "Kate knew EXACTLY what she was doing the day she walked out of that hospital for hyperstimulated ovaries. She *knew* what could happen. What makes me sick is that, as a nurse and mother of twins, she KNEW what being premature could do to a child. Still, she chose to go home and have sex."

I'm a little confused, so please forgive. I don't get it - please explain? I always thought the kids were IVF???



ANSWER: Kate had IUI, not IVF. Do you actually think that an ethical doctor would IMPLANT 7 fertilized embryos? Kate had medication to make her ovulate. She was hospitalized for hyperstimulation of her ovaries. There were 7 follicles. The doctor told her to wait for another cycle with fewer follicles before attempting to fertilize the eggs. Evidently, Kate went home and had sex. She knew exactly what would happen.

Julie411 said...

Jan L, I liked your list of upcoming episodes.

So, I compiled a list of possible new shows for Kate to investigate for when J&K+8 gets cancelled.

Jon & Kate, Livin' Great
Jon & Kate +8, +1 chef, +1 family helper, +1.5 housekeepers, + the yard guy
Stage Parents +8
Sister, Sister, Sister, Sister, Sister, Brother, Brother, Brother

Ok, just typing this has me humming the theme song from the show Sister, Sister:

Sistah, Sistah,
Sistah, Brotha, sistah, sistah
Another brother plus one we never much missed, ah
Sistah, Sistah
Can't wear these shoes or I'll get a blista
Tried em on but they seemed tight
Then mom and dad had a great big fight
Sistah, Sistah
Were did all our relatives go?
Mom got mad and had 'em banned from our show-o-o.
Sistah, Sistah!

The Truman Show +8
What Not to Wear Unless you get it free

Anonymous said...

In response to Kate’s sense of entitlement stemming from being a preacher's kid, I have to disagree.

I grew up as a preacher's kid and we gave to the families in our church just as much as we received. Maybe it depends on the size of the church, the people in the church, the religion, I don't know, but I certainly didn't grow up feeling as though the world owed me anything.

Actually, it's the opposite for me, which is something I have often thought about in regards to Kate. Being the preacher's child puts you in a spotlight of sorts. You are supposed to be an example to the other kids in the church and any mistakes you make are a reflection on your parents. You feel like you always have to give the best impression to the world. The religion I grew up in was very strict, so I never really felt that I fit in with kids outside of the church, but because I was the preacher’s kid I didn’t really feel like I fit in with the kids in the church either. It is a lot of pressure to put on a kid, and what is sad is that it doesn’t even remotely compare to the amount of pressure the twins and tups must be dealing with. If Kate grew up with any of the same experiences I had, I find it very hard to understand how she could put her children's lives on display to the entire world. I have a one year old daughter and I can’t imagine wanting anything but a happy and stress free childhood for her.

Anonymous said...

"I had a nagging feeling since I was a child that I would have a hard time getting pregnant. So, that fall ..."


I also thought that was a very strange comment. You just have a feeling? That doesn't even make sense, and they sure didn't waste time when it came to fertility help. Very strange.

IMHO said...

iloveeyore said "Kate had IUI, not IVF. Do you actually think that an ethical doctor would IMPLANT 7 fertilized embryos? "

Um, well, ya! I'm just that uninformed. Seriously - I don't know much about infertility as I've not been through it - thank God! Uninformed me thought 7 or so were implanted with the hopes of 1 latching on and thriving. And since my youngest is a tween, I've not kept up on this at all as my friends are all past the child bearing years as well. So everyone - thanks for filling me in - it's been quite interesting!

MrsRef said...

To Anonymous 1:54: I did not mean that all PK's are like that. It does depend on the particular church and congregation. I had a particularly bad experience with my daughter's college roommate who was a PK and her minister parents. Her particular school which is located near Jon & Kate treated the PK and MK's like royalty while the "heathen" children paid full price, got the campus jobs cleaning bathrooms, etc. I apologize for generalizing all PK's. You are right, there are alot of pressures involved to the preachers families, however, at the church I attend, we did have a few families that felt entitled pass our way.

Nat said...

AH HA! I was just over at the Facebook fan page and it seems as though the sheeple are starting to wake up. A few people have posted the link to the house that they looked at and there commenting on the hefty price tag and how on earth they can afford it.

Hmmmm... maybe it has something to do with all of those LOVE OFFERINGS?!?!?!?!?

Anonymous said...

"She was hospitalized for hyperstimulation of her ovaries."

Why is hospitalization required? Is it dangerous? Does the patient need to be monitored? I read somewhere that one of the reasons is so the patient wont have sex and fertilize the eggs. Is this true? Wouldn't the doctor know that she went against his orders and had sex anyway? Did she keep the same doctor? Sorry for all the questions?

Anonymous said...

I know Kate mentioned in one of the early episodes about how hard it was to make ends meet, finding money in cushions, etc. And then she mentioned about hearing about some unfortunate family which was in desperate need, and low and behold, a miracle "offering" appeared in the mail. Wonder how true that is??? I also wonder how much of their good luck they pass on to others now that they've hit the "big time". To paraphrase the Bible: "Much is expected from those to whom much is given."

Steph said...

I agree, it's a weird comment.
Even though, when I found out that not everyone is able to just get pregnant, I sometimes caught myself hoping that it wouldn't be me when the day would come.

I don't have children yet, but we are planning it for the near future and of course I'm hoping that we won't have any issues *knockonwood*.

But I think that this worry might cross a woman's mind. It is a little extreme though to say that she knew it from childhood...but you never know sometimes you just have those weird gut feelings.

Anonymous said...

I ask you all this: How many of your children have nagging feelings about their own fertility?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I did! Ever since I was a child, I worried, for whatever reason, that I would not be able to have kids.

I was diagnosed with PCOS in my early 20's. I ended up having IUI in my early 30's (after we had tried on our own for 10 years with no luck) It was successful on the third round and we had a beautiful singleton. We had an extremely wonderful RE (reproductive endocronologist) and we were told with each IUI performed the maximum number of potential embryos.

We were extremely happy and blessed to have our one healthy child and decided not to undergo any further fertility treatments.

Two years later, on our own, we were blessed with our second beautiful and healthy child :-)

(I should also say that my RE would not assist in fertility treatments for couples who had 2 or more kids already.)

I did worry a lot about my own fertility as a child, and I sometimes wonder if my excessive worring contributed somehow to my difficulities.

I'm not defending nor judging anyone elses experiences, I'm just sharing my own personal experience with infertility.

anon for this one

Anonymous said...

I love how Kate said she wanted to be in a new home before the tups started kindergarten... if they start kindergarten. Sorry I don't have the exact quote from the show but I know ya'll heard it. So, that tells me, new home with a school room so she can home school. I hope she at least gets a state certified teacher or assistant through the show instead of trying to do it 100% by herself. I say this for the tups sake, don't let Kate be their teacher! The tups deserve a break from Kate, and interaction with a nurturing adult who will praise them and help them developmentally. Then Kate can go take her naps or "clean" her house or "prepare" dinner. LOL.

Jan L. said...

I had a nagging feeling since I was a child, that I would someday be outraged by watching a show about a big family asking for hand-outs.

Anonymous said...

Kate will NEVER homeschool those children.
That would be WORK.

SmartyQ said...

I think it takes an enormous leap to believe that Kate would have "planned" all this so she could have a life style she wanted. I think she is mean, rude beyond words, uncaring, thoughtless and so many other things, but I don't think we should carry it out to the extreme of planning all these kids for future fame and glory. IF that is true, then I lose tremendous respect for Jodi and Kevin. I have thought all along they were really nice people who got treated really badly, but if they knew all this -- and according to Julie, they did -- then they are complicit in the deceit and the tricks played on innocent people to get money from them any way possible. Complicit because they went along with the charade and I don't care how "nice" or "sweet" someone is, they should be willing to come forward and tell what the real situation was and is so that J&K can be stopped. I don't care anymore (and at one point I really did) what the problems are with her parents, his mother and all the rest. But they could shed some light on how deceitful and dishonest they people are. Wow, reality TV. Who would have thought it could have gotten so bad and be anything BUT reality.
And what would Kevin and Jodi gained besides the absence of your condemnation at this point? Were you one who thought Kon’s detractors were jealous or that they hadn’t walked in Kon’s shoes? Would you have believed Kevin and Jodi a year ago? Six months ago? There are people who watched Monday’s show and still believe Kon are valiant souls who are doing the best they can against great odds.

You’ve witnessed Katie’s rampages, and they were edited. How do you suppose she behaves when the cameras are off? If she was angry at Kevin and Jodi for their ‘revelations,’ who would have been nearby to be the ‘recipients’ of her anger? Who would have been permanently denied loving and constant presences in their lives far earlier than it occurred? Give you a hint: There are eight of them, and they are under the age of eight.

Your anger at Kevin and Jodi reminds me of the wife who is furious at the female partner when she finds out her husband is an adulterer. Her anger should be directed at the husband who betrayed her. I’m not saying the female partner is guiltless, but she wasn’t the one who made the vow to be faithful. If you feel hornswoggled by Kon, blame Kon. They’re the ones who broke their vows of reality to you.

Anonymous said...

I just went to Youtube and watched webisode 30. They showed Kate's graduation picture from nursing school. She had banana bangs and, believe it or not, bore a rather striking resemblance to Susan Smith, the mom in SC.

my9cats said...

Jan L. said...
I had a nagging feeling since I was a child, that I would someday be outraged by watching a show about a big family asking for hand-outs.

LOL! My nomination for laugh err....quote of the week. Great job Jan.

SmartyQ said...

I ask you all this: How many of your children have nagging feelings about their own fertility?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I did! Ever since I was a child, I worried, for whatever reason, that I would not be able to have kids. I was diagnosed with PCOS in my early 20's.

With all due respect, I submit that television has played a huge role in the lives of many people under the age of 65. How can you know what you believed of your own conviction when you were young and impressionable, and what you believed after watching a television drama about infertility at same? I was convinced I had leprosy after watched an episode of Marcus Welby, MD. I was in college at the time.

The mind plays tricks on us, and memories can be implanted or a small incident of no moment can become huge. Sometimes, if we tell a story or are told a story often enough, we cease to able to differentiate between reality and fiction.

What I have written is done so with respect, and I'm glad that you have the children you wanted. Sometimes, however, stuff just happens.

girlie girl said...

It sounds like a lot of you don't understand exactly what an IUI is. You don't just take medicine and go home and have sex when you're ovulating. Perhaps there is another kind of treatment where you do that, but an actual "IUI" is Intra-Uterine Insemination" .... what that mean is it's "insemination" ... you go in and your husband's sperm is spun (washing technique) like in a washing machine of sorts. What happens is that the best swimmers come to the surface, and they are put into a catheter. You then go in and it's inseminated into the woman (turkey baster, if you will...). Jon and Kate had an IUI. Yes, it's rare to have so many kids, but multiples do happen, and with an IUI it's harder (than IVF) to really know what's going on, because sometimes follicles are hiding behind each other. Doctors like to do IUI's with follicles that are in numbers less than 5, but if you have a few hiding follicles, coupled with an aggresive doctor ... ya, this can (and did) happen. Remember - these are not embryos, they are follicles. Oh, and doctors OFTEN go right to IUI if you already have kids who were concieved that way. If it's determined that that's the way you need to get pregnant, then they will not ask you to try again for a year. They already knew what protocol Jon and Kate needed. Doctor's aren't going to deny you treatment just because you have twins from a former treatment. They will just warn you about the possibility of having multiples. I know several people who have twins via IUI or IVF and then went on to 2nd pregnancies the same way. Doctor's will not turn you away (as someone mentioned here) because you already have twins. I just want to make sure everyone has the facts on this.

Anonymous said...

Just my experience, but my RE DID IN FACT turn away couples who already had 2 or more children, whether they were a product of IUI,IVF, adoption or natural conception.

Perhaps it's not the norm, but this was the case with my doc.

Travis said...

Kate can't homeschool. Her neurons don't fire often enough for that. The only lesson they'd learn is to end every sentence in "ish".

These kids need structure and a real school. I'm tired of hearing Kate talk about a routine coming back to bite them on the butt when they don't have one. No parent in their right mind would bring kids home at 2:30 AM and take them out for a full day of Memorial Day activities (at least two weeks before the fact, mind you).

These kids are behind because they have no structure.

IMHO said...

Girlie girl: Thanks! That does help clear alot of this back and forth stuff up. I was wondering what the second "I" meant if it didn't mean insemination - obviously it does.

The Truth Will Set You Free said...

"IF that is true, then I lose tremendous respect for Jodi and Kevin. I have thought all along they were really nice people who got treated really badly, but if they knew all this -- and according to Julie, they did -- then they are complicit in the deceit and the tricks played on innocent people to get money from them any way possible."

When did I ever say that Jodi and Kevin knew "all this" and were part of the deception? They didn't even know what was being said at the speaking engagements until I told them what I read online. They were just as deceived and used as everyone else. I started my blog the end of June when I started reading online and figuring things out. I learn something new every day. They have given me permission to speak out because they want the truth to be told.

Elle said...

Kate puts her children down for a three hour lockdown, I mean nap, at the age of four. Do you really think she is going to keep them at home when she could get rid of them for 8 hours a day?

They will film on weekends and the summer.

beachluvin said...

Kate Gosselin said:
"I had a nagging feeling since I was a child that I would have a hard time getting pregnant."

In addition to the poster's comment of the week, I think we should have a Kate comment of the week.

Another Kate comment, 'We were all suffering from low blood sugar".

kgirl said...

I have not read the Facebook page, but may take a look. This is what makes no sense to me, do their fans really believe they do this show for free? Whether or not it is true about personal chefs etc, anybody with a shred of common sense knows people would not do a weekly TV series for free.

Poor women struggling to support 8 children don't go to the spa as often as they go to the bathroom.

SmartyQ said...

girlie girl said...
It sounds like a lot of you don't understand exactly what an IUI is. You don't just take medicine and go home and have sex when you're ovulating. Perhaps there is another kind of treatment where you do that, but an actual "IUI" is Intra-Uterine insemination" ... what that mean is it's "insemination"

While some may not know that Katie had IUI, not IVF, the bigger issue here is Katie's veracity. I don't believe any doc would inseminate her if her ovaries were hyperstimulated. He could be sued six ways from Sunday. According to BK (if I understood correctly), it was then that Katie got pregnant. BK said the doc did the math and was furious. Moreover, there was at least one episode when, during discussing her pregnancy, Katie asked Jon, 'Do you forgive me?' And she asked him more than once.

While that statement is open to more than one interpretation, I believe you can't trust anything either Kon says about anything. IMO, Kon are amoral and will do whatever will further their questionable goals.

Anonymous said...

Kate but a big IF when she spoke. She said she wanted to be in the new house before they started kindergarten IF they started kindergarten. To me it was a big hint.

I don't see Kate being a full time home school mom. I see her asking the show to pay for a tutor/assistant or even state certified teacher to home school the kids. This way the show can continue going on. They can film Kate in the home school room going over work with the kids, maybe even indicating she has taken the lead on teaching them, but as soon as the camera's go off, I see her turning the class over to the teacher hired by the production crew so she can go "nap". Then as the class is released for the day, she can go back in and round them up for the after school activities around the house, new pool, etc.

Really, if they are building a 2 million dollar compound in NC as the rumor has been saying, I don't see her putting those kids on the bus for 8 hours a day taking time away from the spotlight and incoming paycheck to diminish.

I just don’t see Kate ending this anytime soon.

Anonymous said...

Kgirl...

Of course they would get paid for their show. But unlike other reality TV shows on TLC, they lie all the time about their financial situation. They went to great lengths on the one on one shows to say that they had to save money to take each kid out. They also said that they could only do one each month because it was too expensive. Then we find out it was all paid by the show and happened over two weeks.

When Jon and Kate went shopping for each other, they talked about how they had to budget for it and they were making it their Christmas present to each other. We find out ALL THE CLOTHES WERE DONATED BY THE COMPANY! She even tells Jon when they check-out that they went over their budget. Maybe she meant their free budget. On their Christmas episode, Kate said they didn't get any presents because they already bought clothes and with eight kids, well, that's all they can afford. Then in another episode, on of the little kids says they got daddy a watch for Christmas. Kate looks at the camera in shock and then tries to brush it off. Why lie?

Just like looking at property, their property was already bought before they took the NC trip which showed them "looking" at property in VA. A lie.

Little People, Big World also get paid for their show. But they have never talked about paying for anything themselves, even the trips they take. They don't say, woe is me, I budget for this and that.

Why Jon and KAte feel they must lie is the question.

Many people feel they lie because they go speak at churches and receive collections at the end called "love offerings". Who would donate money to people that had more than the kind givers?

Anonymous said...

Seems the Go$$elin$ got their first church (perhaps her father's church) to renovate their first house when the babies were born. Then, they got their new church to renovate their current house as it was deemed too small. I hope there's a huge mega church in NC that will help renovate their new 8000+ sq ft home when the time comes. Let's see, perhaps a tennis court, sauna, gatehouse, heliport for Lord and Lady Go$$elin...

Julie411 said...

This is all starting to remind me of a family over on the ritzy side of my development. They got a settlement of a few million dollars from a chain store when some boxes fell from a high shelf onto one of the family members. They quickly spent most of the money on a gigantic house and all the trimmiings. Two years later, it went up on the market. The word is they've blown through the money and can't meet the utility bills, insurance, taxes and upkeep.

At least THEY can blame the blow to the head.

If the G's don't watch it, they could find themselves in hot water (or without hot water, as the case may be.

For the sake of the kids, I hope they are they are seeking the services of a financial planner.

News Bug at 6 said...

Yes!! Yes!!!! You are all so right about your comments and opinions of them moving south. Such deception of looking at properties. As they were driving through the wooded property, did you catch Jon say, "I wonder who's brilliant idea this was?" It will most likely be edited out next rerun. And when they were discussing their "unique needs" about housing, I took it to mean, its not about a family of 10 needing room, but its about a family needing to accomodate a film crew 24/7. The house I'm sure will probably have all built in wiring for sound, hidden cameras and possibly even these things in places even Kate control freak won't know about. But do you honestly think F8F/or TLC (or whoever), will actually give the Gosselins the deed to the house? My best guess would be: the house is for the Gosselins for their use as long as the tv show continues. F8F/ or TLC will own the house and the lives of the Gosselins. (I could be wrong here, but its a device to keep their cash cow producing) Dangle the carrot, give them a glimpse of the good life, and its hard to refuse or look away. IMO, Kate is so out of control of her life. She sold out for money, a big house, servants, and probably much more than we can even imagine.

SmartyQ said...

I don't see Kate being a full time home school mom. I see her asking the show to pay for a tutor/assistant or even state certified teacher to home school the kids.
Hah, you small thinker! That's why Katie Irene will live a McMansion, and you won't.

Why not play the 'preemie card'? Ask the State of North Carolina to provide a teacher because her tups were preemies and could have health issues. Katie could lug the tups—in strollers, complete with bibs, sippy cups and chewies—to the Department for Health and Human Services and whine as she did when she wanted a nurse for the second year. Then Katie says to Figure8, 'Hey, I saved you money. Now give it to me.'

Anonymous said...

Oh my goodness!! Was reading back up thru some of the newer posts and came across the comment about the postings from Jon on the triplet connection website (link included here).
Oh my God!!! The stuff that comes out of his mouth re:Home makeover/The harris family
and them getting free stuff and how he knows all about it and how they better learn to manage their money (Pot? Meet kettle!).He even say something about 'those people' and i am assuming he means the Harris family, getting a percentage of the "ratings" from the program. These emails are from 2005 so lets not kid ourselves that Kon wasn't coming up with new and improved ways to work the system.
I know we are all speculating on the move and the home schooling. I just want to say if indeed there is a 'mansion' being built for/by them and it's still in the early stages they might want to think about adding a glass wall on the playroom, so that when sponsers start jumping ship and TLC drops them like a hot potty chair,they can start charging admission, like the psycho doctor did with the Dionne quints, and then maybe they will be able to bring in enough $$ to cover utilities, taxes, etc.



http://www.tripletconnection.org/triplet_forum/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=135&topic_id=87953&sub_topic_id=87993&mesg_id=&page=#87997

KSK said...

I think the Gs will own the house. They will have to pay income taxes on the house. But, it will still be much cheaper than paying for it themselves.

If the house is worth 2 milllion, they will probably pay 45% of that to taxes, about $900,000.

But, if they had to buy it like a normal house, they would have to come up with 2 million(instead of just 900,000). So they only have to come up with about half the money than if they really bought a regular house. Not to mention the money they will make when they finally sell it.

My point is, it is a SWEET deal and Kate and Jon will make it so they own the house as a precondition.

There is no way they would risk getting kicked out. TLC would hold that over their heads when every new contract needs to be done. It was probably enough for Figure Eight to get them down to NC. They will save a lot of money just from that.

Plus, the actual cost of the house is mostly being paid by the sponsers, at least the materials. Meaning, Figure 8 has no personal reason to keep the house, it was not built at their expense. They probably just spent the time rounding up the sponsers.

And the sponsers will get top billing in the next season. "The kids are now using a REAL potty from Kohler," Kate will say. Or "Go make your bed with the Pottery Barn sheets."

What a freaking shame...

tbell said...

I thought this while posting on another board. Doesn't it seem like if TLC was really building a house that they would be planning on what to do for the next 4 years and that they would want to wait for Hawaii and a wedding renewal. Mainly because we will see the kids at the beach next Monday. Sure the kids are cute attendants now but they would be also in a few years. It makes me think that TLC knows it is coming to an end. Just my thought. It will be interesting to see if J&K will travel as much when they are in the new house.

News Bug at 6 said...

KSK said...
I think the Gs will own the house. They will have to pay income taxes on the house. But, it will still be much cheaper than paying for it themselves.
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My point was this, I don't think they are in control of anything regarding the house. Including ownership. (Per Julie, the property was already bought when Jon came home from the Wrap party). The sponsors were already lined up, plans drawn... Paying taxes for Jon gets him "testy." Check out Jon's post. (thank you annon)

http://www.tripletconnection.org/triplet_forum/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=135&topic_id=87953&sub_topic_id=87993&mesg_id=&page=#87997


If they own the house, then as soon as the moving vans pull out of the driveway, why wouldn't Jon and Kate stop production and sever ties with TLC for the sake of moving on to bigger and better? What loyalties do they have to TLC? Afterall, KON throws away perfectly good people in their lives. If its all about a house, then KON's done with TLC. Getting kicked out of the house??!! No way would Kate leave themselves vulnerable. There's more to the agreement than we know. Besides, I am sure TLC realizes that Jon and Kate have themselves some good entertainment lawyers by now who can cry foul, find a loophole and get them out of the production contract AND get the house for them as a love offering if needed. Sweet deal? It's a business arrangement. Both sides are trying to get the most, make the most from each other. No, I still believe they were promised the perception of the good life: big house, land, all rent-free, utility bill free, 1099 tax-free, (they don't pay for what they don't own) and free help/services in order to move them, film and own them as long as possible on TLC's terms. TLC or whoever is not Jon's rich daddy's estate looking to help them with housing. But Kate sure is asking, "Who's my next Daddy?"

J.L. said...

tbell--It's very important to have the wedding vows renewal ASAP, because people have been expressing their utter disgust with Jon & Kate and how they (mostly Kate) speak and act towards one another. Damage control, pure and simple.
Look at soap operas or daily talk shows. All they need to add is a wedding or a baby, and the awwwww factor comes into play.
Some viewers are so stupid, that when a character being played on a show gets married or has a baby, people will actually send presents to the "character".
Another indication that some people can't separate fact from fantasy!
Then, say on a program like Regis & Kelly...whenever she gave birth it was a big deal and ratings increased, because people tune in each day and the person speaking on the screen becomes such a part of their life...they think they "know" them.

KSK said...

The property was bought and all the sponsership deals were done back in May. Julie said this in one of her answers. This was before all the outrage from people. So, at that time, I'm sure TLC just assumed this show would continue for several more years. Why not bring the Gs down to NC, easier for production, and get them a house. I'm sure, being the #1 rated show on TLC, the Gs felt they had a lot of leverage at contract time, which , I believe, was this spring for season 4. Probably when they got the house thrown in on the deal. I'm sure no one ever imagined this reaction from people.

I bet Figure 8 is going over the next show with a fine tooth comb, trying to take out the offensive parts. (As if that is possible!)

The question is, will all this backlash effect what the sponsers or TLC does? Will they still do the house, can the sponsers get out of it if they want?

liz said...

This goes to Kon's "untruths" as they like to say. This is a quote from the posting where you can vote for comment of the week, which is now closed. I thought it was funny and I would like to nominate it for next week, if that's possible! The person who wrote it included it with their vote. Thanks.

"Eeny meeny miney mo...
Catch Kate Gosselin by her toe...
If she lies, don't let her go...
Eeny meeny miney mo..."

by Charlotte D'Aubigne

I thought it was a hoot! It is probably as close as Kate will ever get to reading a nursey rhyme, cause we know she doesn't read to her kids!

Your comments of the week are good comic relief. I love your site!

Anonymous said...

I don't think the show is going to be folding soon. It seems to be more popular than ever, as evidenced by the marathons as well and the new house and the move.

I can see all kinds of potential for new episodes:

Getting the kids prepared for the move.

The family exploring the new house (well part of it).

Kate hiring a decorator.

The kids adjusting to their new schools.

Exploring their new state.

The kids taking swimming lessons.

The kids starting other lessons and activities, perhaps gymnastics or riding or karate and Kate explaining to us all how difficult it is and how she must stay organized.

A trip to S.Korea must certainly be in the works by now.

The kids get a pet. (of course we know it won't be welcome, but it make for "awww" TV and Kate can send it to live with one of the producers as soon as it "gets too big and needs more exercise than the family has time to provide."

And, of course, the girls will start acting and/or voice lessons.

These ideas just off the top of my head. I don't think they need to save any ideas. The possibilities are endless.

Julie411 said...

I'm guessing they will put a great spin on the moving/new house story:

"Our wonderful, wonderful crew works so hard. And most people probably don't know this, but they, being based in NC, spend an incredible amount of time on the road and away from their families. And, since we've talked about moving to a warmer climate, well, since we were married, we figured the best thing to do would be to move to NC, which we love, so that the crew doesn't have to seperated from their families to film ours."

Seriously, I can almost HEAR them reading the cue cards.

Anonymous said...

Kate hiring a decorator.

Remember when Beth was her decorator?? Guess Kate needs a new best friend.

Anonymous said...

The G's do not need more space, their house has a partially finished basement. The basement could at least be made into 2 rooms and a full bath. They do not need a 2 million dollar home. They are just so greedy.
Kon should take note of the future when they hit the 40's which will be pretty soon they wont be that cute young couple anymore and viewers wont be interested.
They make think that bigger home is a better home but it just means a bigger expense.
Eventually the freebies will dry up and they will be left with a big house that they can't afford the upkeep on.
The G's money making scam might of been brilliantly thoughtout by the Queen Mother herself(Kate). Like most tv reality shows that feature families, their lives will end up in turmoil after the show has ended. It is almost a guaranteed.

InkSmudge said...

I know this isn't the best place to put this comment, but I just wanted to let y'all know that the brand-new issue of Entertainment Weekly (dated Aug. 22/29) is coming out right now, and in the TV section of the magazine they have published a review of J&K+8--it's pretty favorable, they graded the show a B+. Obviously, the reviewer hasn't been checking out this site!
My favorite part--the reviewer says "uberorganized" Kate is the person you'd want to have with you on a lifeboat. Are you kidding me? Only if I intended on committing suicide immediately upon seeing her sitting there.
Another quote from the review: "[Kate] often talks to John in a tone reserved for dazed kindergartners. ... In this day of scripted reality, to see a couple actually interact with each other in a way that seems genuine--unpleasantness included--is unbelievably refreshing." That's strange--when I see a wife talk to her husband as though he is 5, I do not feel refreshed. I feel sick to my stomach.

Deb said...

I also have PCOS, and have given birth 4 times using No Fertility Help. Just the normal old fashioned way....lol
It may take a little longer but you still get the wonderful end result, and not so many of them...

dotsicle said...

Figure8 is located in Carrboro, which is Orange County NC. The Gosselins could be building in that county or any of the nearby counties (Alamance, Durham, Chatham, Wake, Guilford). There's a LOT of beautiful land in that area of NC, some remote. Some classy subdivisions too.
My dad's family has lived in that area since the 1800's.

Anonymous said...

" "uberorganized" Kate is the person you'd want to have with you on a lifeboat."

Again another article written by someone who OBVIOUSLY doesnt watch the show! If you are stranded on a life boat, its about SURVIAL skills not about how well you can pack a suit case. You can teach a monkey how to pack a suit case. I am continually insulted by these types of articles that insist on portraying Kate as being this new age 'super mom'. Kate isnt and hasnt done anything that women generations over havent and arent already done. On my list of people I prefer to stranded on a life boat with , Kate Gosselin is not one of them.

Anonymous said...

I've been checking out the main Facebook group for J&K - and it is very interesting as more and more folks are questioning what is going on. Yes, there are the ardent sheeples, who for the most part come across as 13 year old girls...however, I think the tables are slowly turning on these two. I am not someone who likes to see people fall, but I believe in karma and treat people the way I want to be treated. By the way, I saw them fawn over their "Mission Statement" in an episode and had to laugh out loud...they may want to revisit it.

I am still trying wrap my head around how quickly they received fertility treatment. I have had to wait a little more than 12 months to get a referral to an infertility clinic, now I am waiting another 6 months for an appointment. Something seems very off and slightly sinister.

Anonymous said...

Kate has indeed done something that most self respecting women would not do. That is she has been highly succesful in manufacturing 6 children and use these children in order to pull off her money making scheme.
She should be on the show mastermind if she is not picked up by the travel channel first.
This show is will go down as the scam of century. I think as a result of this show many things are going to change law ect, involving children and reality shows.
A big side note
Kate Gosselin really has her fans at facebook,believe that she is a supermom.
One fan said that they hope the show is not cancelled because they would not know what to do. As the woman s 3 children to raise and she needed to watch the show to know how to raise them. Can you believe that. These woman will believe in anything. They have 32,000 fans signed up over on face book. So I do not see this show ending soon. The fans really blog like they know this family personally. I wonder how they are missing the big picture, so sad.

sistah2 said...

About the EW article: just got mine today. The worst quote of all :
"What makes J&K so fascinating is the challenges - which are beyond anything that Survivor..could dream up...the logistics are baffling...this is a mission that would require serious military training..."
LOLOLOLOL!
just sent a letter off to them, pointing out that the pack of hired help is behind it all, etc. and that obviously no research was done. the address to send an email is: ew_letters@ew.com.

Barbara said...

Truth will set you free:
You are absolutely right and I was completely wrong in stating what I did about Kevin and Jodi and you agreeing. I had read upstream on Aug. 13 from Anonymous "What are the chances KON had this deception throught out from the beginning." I couldn't believe that they could have "planned" everything before they even got pregnant and would have the foresight to plan all this working out like it has for them --financially and otherwise. Maybe they did, but it seems it would have taken someone with more smarts than either of them seem to have to be able to pull that off. And I guess I thought I had read that you said something that you never did, and I should NEVER have presumed that. I should have checked my facts, it was hurtful what I said. I think, sometimes, that I read too much of these forums and blogs and after a while everything just runs together. I do apologize to you and to Jodi and Kevin. My most favorite episode was when Kevin was working in the garage on the make-over. He was so friendly, called each of them by name and was just all the way around likeable. And for those 8 children, it must be a very confusing and painful loss to not have Aunt Jodi around anymore.

Anonymous said...

On the episode that aired Monday, August 11, 2008, the G's apparently stopped in Hanover County, Virginia to look at a 1.5 million dollar home.

Go to www.mechlocal.com to read the article.

What a joke. The realtors were not told who was coming to look at the house and they had to sign a confidentiality agreement.

The article is very interesting and there are about 15 comments from individuals.

Serena said...

Barbara, after reading this comment of yours, I wanted to say that I think you are a class act.

Serena said...

The realtors were not told who was coming to look at the house and they had to sign a confidentiality agreement.

Not exactly. The realtors weren't told who was coming UNTIL they signed a confidentiality agreement. So they wouldn't spill the beans about J&K coming prior to their arrival.

News Bug at 6 said...

I am sure we will see more and more magazine articles on the Gosselins in the coming weeks - all as a result from the PR firm's efforts. As I stated in a previous post, the PR firm was pulled in to do what they do best - create a perception over reality. The PR firm probably met with TLC execs to brainstorme on a reputation and image rebuilding plan. Part one, change the outer package of the offending reality to a kinder, softer appearance (we see Kate in pretty colorful skirts and blouses) scripted affection, etc. Part two, create new awareness of the show, situation and its characters. Command sympathy from a well-contructed message and flood the market with this message. Someone at the PR firm may have written an article about the show and the poor poor Gosselins. The article finds it way to the managing editor's desk of all the major entertainment/tv mags, and other news mediums. This article is a template or frame for the story to be told and IF the editor chooses to use it, it can be placed as-is (as it is written from the PR firm), or the assigned writer can follow up with the contact person (at the PR firm) for further quotes or to set up an interview to follow up on a different angle. Some writers may be thankful to get a well-written story in their inbox, needing minor edits and submit it for print. Makes their job easy. That's our joke - "never believe everything you read." Kinda ironic-huh?

Anonymous said...

After some thought about why they would go look at the house in Virginia I came to the following conclusions.

A. Whomever owns the house is trying to get publicity so the home would sell. Maybe they even paid to be on the show. Maybe a relative to someone from Figure 8?

B. Maybe the house they are building will be similiar in layout and they wanted to see it in person so Kate could point out what she did and didn't like so when her house is built they know what to change.

C. It's just propaganda to get the fans use to the idea that they are planning a move out of state so when it happens it's not a shock.

Anonymous said...

I just rewatched the 3rd birthday carnival show and noticed something very interesting.

Jon is just lazy and a BS artist just like Kate. All this time I thought jon actually did a lot around the house. After I watched "he and Kevin" assemble the carnival stands I was absolutely disgusted. I saw him assemble a little bit of one... then they fastplayed the making of the first one and the other two and guess what! Jon wasnt even there! Kevin and Jodi built them all...along with one of their kids!

But wait... Jon comes back on and says "The first one was really hard for us.... the other two were easier because we knew what we were doing more ...but it was still really hard work. But we finally finished them, and they're done"

YEAH Jon, it was hard work..... for KEVIN! and jodi! Jon wasnt even there for most of it!

It absolutely drives me crazy when Kate talks in first person about events she wasnt even present at (like Boy's day out) or about "work" she does where you can clearly see she is doing nothing and her helpers are doing it all. And looks like Jon is exactly the same way! A do nothing, claim everything jerk!

These people are raising my blood pressure. I need closure and they need Foreclosure!!!

Anonymous said...

sistah2 said...
About the EW article: just got mine today. The worst quote of all :
"What makes J&K so fascinating is the challenges - which are beyond anything that Survivor..could dream up...the logistics are baffling...this is a mission that would require serious military training..."
LOLOLOLOL!

What an insult to the men and women in uniform. GMAB. Neither Parent has a job outside the home! Who the heck are they kidding?

The Truth Will Set You Free said...

Barbara--no worries! I know everyone is analyzing everything I say, so I wanted to see if I needed to clarify something. The garage makeover is one of my favorites too! :-)

Julie411 said...

Me and Kate stranded in a lifeboat:

Kate:

"Well this is just great, now I am going to get sunburned again and my skin is very delicate. Would it have killed you to grab the sunscreen before we went overboard? Oh, NO, YOU had to fool around and play toys with that two-wave-y-radio-thingie.
WHAT ARE YOUR DOING NOW? Can't you lean over a little farther if you are going to vomit over the side. We do not have any hand sanitizer on this raft. If you soil the side of the raft and it dries in the sun, it's going to be murder for my personal assistant to clean and I pay her by the HOUR! Maybe if you ate mostly organic food you wouldn't be so sick right now. Do you have to breathe so loud? Breathe through your mouth so I don't hear that. Can't you hear that? Would you stop? Don't breathe TOWARD me. Ugh, now I am probably going to catch your stomach virus and my family just got over being sick 38 months ago. Thanks to you! All thanks to you. Do you know how exhausting it is to have eight sick kids on the laundry room floor at once? It's a good thing my new house has a huge laundry room. Thanks to you, I'm going to need it. What are you doing? Sit down before you, OH MY LORD, sit down before we tip over. Hey, wait don't you push me in. OH MY, OH MY OH MY! I have 8 kids and I am not an outdoorsy type that swims well and all this treading water is very exhausting. Do you know how rough sea water is on white shorts? Hey, come back! I'm not through talking to you!"

Anonymous said...

The EW review:
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20219203,00.html

Anonymous said...

"What an insult to the men and women in uniform"

I totally agree! I wish I wouldnt have even read the post that included the quote from the article! I will send an email to EW voicing my disgust in their using our brave men and women of the military in the same reference as J & K. If the author of the EW article wants to see the REAL results of serious military training, they should take a tour inside Walter Reed Military Hospital!!!!!!!!!!!!

iluveeyore said...

"I seriously feel sick to my stomach. When will this nonsense stop? There was an episode back a few when they were talking on the couch and they mentioned something re: no space in their current home and mentioned NC - he wanted to be down there and she said "soon honey soon" does anyone remember that? byw - this is my first post

I think you might be confusing this scene with one in which Kate and Jon are discussing how the boys are dressed for the golf course. Jon says that they need sweatsuits over their clothes because it will be cold. Kate asks "When are we going to move where it's warm?" And Jon says "soon."

sk3 said...

Looks like Jon is trying to get his posts removed from the triplet connection forum:

http://tripletconnection.org/triplet_forum/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=135&topic_id=110534

Anonymous said...

I just left a comment on the EW page. More sheeple upset with GWOP posting there but also some who have managed to see thru the BS and figure out what is really happening. I am starting to resent the sheeply thinking 'we' are all conspiracy theorists who are jealous. My question to them is 'jealous of what'?? That I have a wonderful relationship with my husband and would never dream of speaking to him the way Kate speaks to Jon....even 'kidding' around. Jealous of being able to lie at the drop of hat about how tough my life is with 8 kids and not an outside job between the two adults, when I know full well that I have outside help up the wazoo and haven't paid for anything outright in gosh knows how long?? Jealous about the fact that I have no friends or family involved in my life because I am one difficult human being who only thinks of me-me-me? Jealous because I have the personality of a shrew (Hey-here's a random thought----wasn't the main character in The Taming of the SHREW named Kate?? Cue the Twilight Zone theme music!!)and can't figure out why some of my children are displaying similar personality traits? Jealous because my children actually had the opportunity to be children when they were little and weren't paraded around like trained seals?
Jealous of Kon???? I think not. I would lay money that it's the pro-Kon group that are jealous and who think it would be wonderful to live the Gosselin life. I am pretty sure we at GWOP share the concern that there are 8 children who are being exploited for monetary gain and that the Gs are falsely presenting themselves as poor pitiful parents who are in dire need of help. For all of you that have a problem with that, I apologize for trying to save you from yourselves........
Lisa

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