"This show has become a sham and I'm not talkin' pillows."

People in this area aren't happy the Gosselins are moving. We're better than that. What's upsetting is that after all this time and all the people, businesses, and cash, we've given to help, they don't seem to be very thankful for how well they have it.

This is a family with eight children that has been on more vacations than most families take their entire lives. This is a family of ten that has never had to fret about feeding, diapering, clothing, or caring for the kids. This is a family with eight kids that has never had to say "no" to an event or trip because of a sick child (think about that). There has always been an answer to their needs and it's not God. It's the community. It's the generosity of the state of Pennsylvania.

How many dollars did this family of eight pay for the births of their children? Nothing. Despite the extended hospitalization and NICU care. Nothing. I have premature singletons and we almost went broke paying the hospital bills. I'm not saying that they shouldn't have been paid. But, where is the appreciation for what they have? When they got a remodel, Kate started complaining before the paint was dry. After a weekend of intense labor and freebies, this is the woman who couldn't see that a community did everything in their power to help. She saw "a disaster." After getting a new house, she could only see the rooms she didn't have.

Despite the fact that most families who choose to have eight children live in much less, Kate doesn't enjoy; she covets. She wanted an easy life and she found a way to get it. Unfortunately, it was on the backs of her eight children. Remember, this isn't a family who took a bit of time off to deal with the multiples and then went back to work. Jon was raised in a well-off home and never knew what it meant to need. Kate was raised in a family that treated her like the beautiful queen bee. I've heard some people speculate about her childhood. They want to know if they had needs met by the church because she's a PK. The answer is not as often as needed to create these sort of entitlement issues. Her dad and mom are better people than to demand things they want over what they need. Her parents are decent people. This can be seen in her brother Kevin and the other siblings.

People are tired. We've been lied to so many times that it's hard not to be cynical. Kate said Jon would go back to work as soon as they got past this tough phase of infancy. The state gave him a job. He quit. He doesn't work in any capacity other than doing appearances. Some might say that was just a change of plans... but, it's hard to believe they ever meant to work after the way things have gone down. Kate said she'd give all the freebies to charity. Well, that never happened. Everything went to consignment or was sold in yard sales. She was even approached by a friend who knew a person in our community who was about to have twins and wasn't financially able to pull everything together. Did Kate donate to the cause or pass along the generosity? Nope.

Kate and Jon said in an early interview that they wouldn't make a spectacle of the children. HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAAHA!! Yeah. I'll let you all finish laughing. They played the poor card and then had the audacity to tell people that used items weren't what they had in mind. So much for beggars not being choosers, eh'? Jon and Kate promised to give back to the community at some point... what they didn't mention was that they'd hang a speaking fee on it. There are other, smaller fibs, but it's trivial stuff.

The point is: E-town, Wyomissing, and surrounding areas are exhausted by the Gosselins. We got burned. Everyone here feels for the families that did nothing more than help them in their time of greatest need and expected nothing but love in return. Did Kate ever offer Jodi a spa day? Did she ever take her to lunch or give her a nice gift on mother's day for making her life easier? Nope. So... some of you will have to excuse us locals. To quote Kate: "We're exhausted." What's sad is that there are people who will think twice the next time a family with multiples needs help.

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62 comments:

Anonymous said...

What a good choice to add to the front page.

I enjoyed watching the show the first season. Then Kate started to wear on me. But, the kids suck you in, they are so cute.

Then I found out about the Jodi and Beth drama. Every good person I know would have jumped at the chance to share with their family and friends, especially after receiving so much free help from them.

SHAME ON YOU KATE! YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED TO SHOW YOUR FACE!


She started this whole thing by her petty, selfish actions.

Chris said...

You should keep this forever on the front page of your blog. It says so much. Thanks for posting it.

Nat said...

Thank you so much for posting this. Its one thing for us to speculate, but its another to hear these things from people who have been burned and taken advantage of by the kons.

I have to believe that what comes around goes around and the Kons will get what they deserve.

Anonymous said...

I hope the Gosselin worshipers take off their rose colored glasses for just a minute to read this post OBJECTIVELY. I think we were all sucked in by the cute factor of the kids, that was the draw. But we all have to let go and be happy with yearly updates, and Kate and Jon have to let go of the sweet life they have come to enjoy at the incredible expense of the 8 innocent lives.

Anonymous said...

I think that there is truth in this article. However, saying that "everyone here" is reaching. You can't speak for everyone, can you?

Kat Coble said...

All of my husband's family lives in Pennsylvania--some just a few minutes from the Gosselins. In fact, I have inlaw family members who work (or have worked--I'm not clear) with Kate's parents.

I love Pennsylvania, and I don't at all mean this as a slam on the state of Pennsylvania.

But what did all of you expect? Look at how the Gosselins treated their own family members and the generosity, support and love those family members showed them. It seems to be the M.O. of these folks to suck people dry, alienate them, cast them aside brutally and then move on.

I really do feel bad for the people of the State of Pennsylvania, who are just the latest husks drained of all usefulness by the Gosselin family.

I must say, however, that I do look forward to hearing from various sponsors, TLC personnel and Figure 8 Films employees about how badly they were treated by J&K before they were abandoned in favor of a more generous sponsor, a larger network or a more Hollywood production company.

After all, these folks are just the latest in the line of "whom can we exploit to make our lives easier".

Anonymous said...

When I first started watching the show, I admired Kate's organization skills but never really liked her personally. She seemed very abraisive and the way she mocked Jon irritated me. As time has gone on I'm seeing both she and Jon in a poor light.

I also couldn't understand why she let the kids run around hitting each other and screaming through most of the shows. Now I have a clearer picture of why the children act the way do and why she never did anything. It wasn't about her so why should she bother?

I'm picturing in my mind, 15-20 years down the road and we see a "What ever happened to..." show on tv and it might just be the Tups talking about how they no longer have contact with their parents.

I'm glad that this site is up because what a lot of people write on here is not only enlightening but also something I think about too.

Steph said...

I'm picturing in my mind, 15-20 years down the road and we see a "What ever happened to..." show on tv and it might just be the Tups talking about how they no longer have contact with their parents.

Especially the boys. They *might* say hello to Jon in the street, but I don't think any of them will put much effort into a relationship with Kate.

Oh wait-they will use them until they are done needing money from then, and THEN cut all ties. When asked, they will say their parents just "didn't know how to help".

You know Kate will be nasty to all of the kids' spouses, too. She doesn't respect her own husband or blood family, so I can't imagine she will be anything but rude to her daughter's husbands or her son's wives. I wonder how many will opt not to marry at all? Not to have children? It will indeed be interesting to see what happens in 20 years...

Anonymous said...

It sort of reminds me of that old 70's era song "Cat's in the Cradle" where dad was always too busy to spend the least amount of time with his son, and finally when his son grows up and dad wants to spend some time with him, the son's too busy. Not a perfect comparison, but close. In the end, you get back what you give, it just takes time.

mady rocks said...

I agree kc.
Look how people treat the ones closest to them. That's the best you're gonna get.

Manda said...

There has always been an answer to their needs and it's not God. It's the community. It's the generosity of the state of Pennsylvania.

I think that's her way out and that she justifies not helping others by convincing herself God is responsible for all she has, not individual people. As long as Kate 'gives all the glory to God', she doesnt have to acknowledge and perhaps pay back the actual human hands that gave volumes so freely to them. Or pay it forward.

Christa said...

As a mom of triplets, don't worry. I don't take charity, not even a WIC check. These babies are OUR responsibility....no one elses. Sans a baby shower we have had no financial help, nor have we had help with the babies. We made them, we take care of them.

Please don't label all moms of higher order multiples as takers.

www.partyofseven.wordpress.com

Anonymous said...

I got a little nervous in the Outer Banks episode where Kate was talking about Jenny being "just like one of the family."

Watch out, Jenny, we know where that'll get you!!!

Laurie said...

This post hit the nail on the head for me. I'm 28 years old, a mom of 2 boys, and the tups have been on more family vacations than I have! My kids didn't even see the ocean this year because gas prices got so high, and there were other priorities. My kids have never been on vacation. We take hand-me downs when they're offered, we don't put our hands out. We are not to proud to accept help when it's offered, and I appreciate it when it's given.

My husband works 55+ hours per week, I work 32, and we rarely see each other so that we don't have to put kids in day care. And we haven't had a vacation since our 4 day honeymoon. Yet, John and Kate are both unemployed, and they take their 8 kids on vacation, or to some theme park or other EVERY FEW WEEKS it seems!

Our priority is protecting and providing for our kids. John and Kate's priorities are pimping their kids out. Maybe my husband and I are wrong to work so hard. Maybe our priority instead should be to go through fertility treatments, have half a dozen kids at once, and quit our jobs so that the country can support us in the manner to which we would like to become accustomed. Works for J&K... Could work for me too. Only problem is, I could never do that. I have integrity. And the Gosselins, for all the things they do have, will never have integrity.

Anonymous said...

Kon seem to be more of just overser's than parents. The Gosselin children are being parented by TLC and Figure 8. TLC and Figure are the ones that determine what the children do. They provide them with food, clothing, housing, and entertainment. Kon are just in charge of making sure the children arrive to their next destination on time.

L said...

"Christa said...

As a mom of triplets, don't worry. I don't take charity, not even a WIC check. These babies are OUR responsibility....no one elses. Sans a baby shower we have had no financial help, nor have we had help with the babies. We made them, we take care of them.

Please don't label all moms of higher order multiples as takers.

www.partyofseven.wordpress.com
August 15, 2008 3:44 PM"

First, something you probably don't hear enough--good for you! So many parents, regardless of family size, seem to have a sense of entitlement about their families. You're setting a great example for your kids. :)

Second, you sound just like my parents, who raised a bigger family than the Kons on their own based on the simple principle you just stated: our babies, our responsibility. I started to watch the show because it was on and it intrigued me to see another big family at work (no, that's not the word I want...) I could not believe how much help the Kons got, and how little they seemed to appreciate it. And it's beyond my comprehension that once they were out of the danger zone financially and health-wise they had the total absence of self-respect required to continue to take outside help. I fully support Kon not respecting themselves, but surely someone could donate a modicum of shame?

In the future, I would hope that this would make well-meaning members of the community a little more suspicious. It's so aggravating when good intentions are abused in that way.

J.L. said...

Trmendous post.
Today, I happened to see a rerun of when they were buying the new beds for the kids.
Jon said that they went and sold all of their cribs at a yard sale. I couldn't believe it. I never noticed that in the past, but I know more now about how they operate.
How about DONATING the things that were handed to you. There are poor women and also organizations such as Birthright, and they always try to give good used items to Moms who are in need.
Terrible choices. And I won't go into the little guy being constipated and having to go shopping with them.
Why didn't Nurse Kate give that child an infant suppository to help him? Now, if I see a rerun, I think about all posts that people have written, and I can see more clearly all the time!

iluveeyore said...

If I may inject a note of levity.

I could not believe Jon's comment that they need to live near "big box stores." Jon and Kate have so much class. Those two could be plopped down on Rodeo Drive with a blank check and would not know what to do, because they couldn't buy a box of 400 toilet paper rolls.

You put a pig in a palace and it's still a pig.

iluveeyore said...

I have a question. On Jodi's sister's blog she talked about them being in the national Enquirere. I can't find the article. Anyone have an online link or something? Thanks in advance!

Please look on the right side of this page. There is a link to National Enquirer Article. When you get to the article, click on it to make it larger and readable.

(What I find the most interesting thing about this article is that not one word has ever been repudiated. Jon & Kate have never denied any of the claims.)

Anonymous said...

Iluvveeyore said: Jon and Kate have so much class. Those two could be plopped down on Rodeo Drive with a blank check and would not know what to do, because they couldn't buy a box of 400 toilet paper rolls. You put a pig in a palace and it's still a pig.
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I nominate this for comment of the week!!!! Priceless!

L said...

"iluveeyore said...

If I may inject a note of levity.

I could not believe Jon's comment that they need to live near "big box stores." Jon and Kate have so much class. Those two could be plopped down on Rodeo Drive with a blank check and would not know what to do, because they couldn't buy a box of 400 toilet paper rolls.

You put a pig in a palace and it's still a pig.
August 15, 2008 6:27 PM"



Very true. I think it's been established that Kon are about acquisition, not having, and quantity, not quality.

"Acquisition" made me think of "Star Trek" and this list has so many things that apply to Kon:

http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Ferengi_Rules_of_Acquisition

"Once you have their money, you never give it back.
Never pay more for an acquisition than you have to.
Never allow family to stand in the way of opportunity.
Greed is eternal.
Never place friendship above profit.
A wise man can hear profit in the wind.
Nothing is more important than your health... except for your money.
The bigger the smile, the sharper the knife.
Every man has his price.
Dignity and an empty sack is worth the sack.
Treat people in your debt like family... exploit them.
A man is only worth the sum of his possessions.
Sometimes the only thing more dangerous than a question is an answer.
Employees are the rungs on the ladder of success. Don't hesitate to step on them.
Never be afraid to mislabel a product.
No good deed ever goes unpunished.
After you've exploited someone, it never hurts to thank them. That way, it's easier to exploit them next time.
Exploitation begins at home.
When no appropriate rule applies, make one up.
Why ask, when you can take?
A good lie is easier to believe than the truth."

(For non-science-fiction fans, these are the rules of an alien race whose entire existence is based on avarice.)

iluveeyore said...

I accidentally deleted :( a comment about searching for land parcels in NC owned by Figure 8, Jon and Kate, TLC, etc. Nothing was found, but it was opined that the land might have been purchased by a trust.

I think that is a very good observation. I'm sure that Figure 8 did not care to hand over property and a building to Jon and Kate in perpetuity. I'm sure Figure 8 wanted to maintain some form of ownership and control. On the other hand, if Jon and Kate had the slightest bit of legal assistance, they would try to make sure that their future home would not be pulled out from under them under adverse circumstances (such as the tv show going under). That must have been a rather complicated transaction. And the establishment of a trust or limited corporation would make a lot of sense.

Anonymous said...

The Gosselins donate cribs? HA!

I never had baby showers for my kids. Everything they own we've purchased on our own sans birthday gifts from family and their school friends. HOWEVER, when my kids have outgrown a clothing item, I donate it. If they outgrow a toy, I donate it. Bottles and sippy cups they no longer need? Donated.

I'm not looking for props for myself. My point is, whether the Gosselins were gifted these items or purchased them, they of all people should know that there are families out there that could really use the help of donations.

J&K - Do unto others as you would have done to you. Be a part of the solution. Do something to benefit others. Karma will bite you in the ass every time.

Anonymous said...

As a mom of triplets, don't worry. I don't take charity, not even a WIC check. These babies are OUR responsibility....no one elses. Sans a baby shower we have had no financial help, nor have we had help with the babies. We made them, we take care of them.

Please don't label all moms of higher order multiples as takers.


It sounds like you're doing a great job and have your act together.
Don't forget though, that everybody needs a little help now and then and it's OK to have some help when you really need it.

Not everyone is like Jon and Kate.
Some of us appreciate help beyond words! :-)

Anonymous said...

I have been a lurker on this site for about a month now and this is my first post.
After watching the last episode of the beach vacation I am completely disgusted by these parents. What other normal families can afford to go on vacation or outings as much as the Gs? Nobody I know.
It disgusts me that they have their hand out to everyone and that Kate thinks that everyone owes her something. This woman does nothing more than bitch at her husband and put her kids off to somebody elses care. When was the last time we actually saw Kate down on the floor playing with her kids or chasing them in the driveway? Do they read books to their kids? Or is that not entertainment tv? Jon is the one doing everything for her in that house. He should be the one always complaining that he's exhausted. How do in-home day care's handle 8 kids? I know alot of daycare providers and they are nothing like Kate. They are capable of taking care of multiple kids without the help of nannies, chefs, cleaners and errand runners.
As for Jon's most recent job loss. Didnt they state in one of the earlier episodes this spring that he was working for Bob and that was going to allow him more time for being at home to help, i mean do everything for Kate.
With the demise of Kate and Beth's friendship is that why Jon no longer works for Bob? I am sure that Jon would rather be at work all day than be at home with the Queen Beotch barking orders.
Why hasnt the little old laundry lady been on lately? Did they boot her to the curb too? Why havent we seen her neighbor lady and her daughter that loves them too? Where did they go? What about the new family tradition of chores? All thses new family traditions have only been spoken about for 1 episode and then we hear nothing of them again.
I used to love watching this show and thought that Kate was great, being able to handle the kids and house etc. But now I dont even know why I watch anymore, other than too look at the train wreck every week I guess.

SmartyQ said...

I said: Very true. I think it's been established that Kon are about acquisition, not having, and quantity, not quality. "Acquisition" made me think of "Star Trek"

Okay, here's a compliment for Kon. They sure have the lobes for acquiring. The Grand Nagis would be happy to call them Ferengis

(We of the Continumm don't, however, like them.)

Quark said...

Okay, here's a compliment for Kon. They sure have the lobes for acquiring.

I don't know, I think Kate has pretty much nagged the lobes off Jon.

ArmyWife said...

I have a mother just like Kate she is exhausting and never see's fault in what she does.. She has caused me so much pain with her words... I struggle daily to let my mother be part of my daughters life. In my mind it's only fair to let her choose to have a relationship with her grandmother not mine. My mom's a wonderful grandmother I sometimes wonder why she couldn't give me that kid of love while raising me.. As far as our relationship there will never be one I think she knows that at this point.

Kate you need to wake up!!! You are doing a lot of damage to those precious babies... At some point these children are going to find out the truth and go looking for their family that were forced out of their life. They will see what kind of person you are and you will end up broken and alone..

Anonymous said...

"I have to believe that what comes around goes around and the Kons will get what they deserve."

I have to believe this, too. It just really saddens me that they are takign their children down with them.

BK said...

In my opinion, Jon's employment history boggles the mind. He is a healthy, not-yet-middle-age man with an education. Yet, a glance at his record of employment by his own admission shows that he hops from here-to-there. I would guess that the problem is the same with every job - Kate can't stand being alone with the kids and pressures Jon to take days off or come home early. After a while, employers get fed up or Jon realizes that this doesn't work. Take a look at the way Kate always seems to be waiting for Jon to get home (when he had a job) or waiting for him to be done with a chore so that he can help her. Just watch. Once you start paying attention to it, it's hard to deny. Think about making waffles before the trip to the bed store. Kate is standing at a stove making waffles. If a kid came within a foot of her, she'd start yelling for Jon to come get the kids. If she were frying bacon, then I'd understand. But, waffles? If you're that concerned, then put a tape line on the floor and make them observe the line when you're cooking. Of course, Kate would put it at the basement door, but you know what I mean. So, she's standing there...watching a waffle maker brown a waffle. It is quite possible to walk away from that for a second to get down to your child's level and ask them to help you by setting the table. Or, just getting them a chair (placed far back) to watch. But, no...she has to yell for Jon who's already busy with the kids. With all my heart, I sometimes wish that Jon would turn that around and show Kate what it feels like. Can you imagine? "KATE!! KATE!! KATE!! I'm putting these beds together can you come get Aiden!?" Kate's response: "You just need to deal with it honey." Kate can't deal with it unless there's someone around to watch her deal with it.

The garage sales are interesting. From what I've picked up on, it's clear that Kate knows the exact value of everything in that house. Everything that was donated gets a look-up on the manufacturer's website. I would love to imagine that she looks up that worth for tax purposes, but I feel that that's a fat chance. I think looking up the values gives her a price to start at and, from what I've seen or been told, she'll only take 25-30% off the top on bigger items. That's why she wanted a grand for the table. My question, with that one, was why not give it to your church's nursery?

The swag they get is unbelievable. And, much to the consternation of a certain someone, people feel compelled to personalize the stuff with names or numbers. She's can't consign that stuff and it's hard to sell a towel that says "Hannah" to a kid named Susie. So, I get a crazy little thrill whenver I see someone give them personalized gifts. LOL

I did hear a nice little rumor (AND THAT IS ALL IT IS FOR NOW) about a church cancelling the gig because of the fee issues with other churches. Hey, what do you know? Some churches weren't all that hip on bringing someone to lecture who may cancel at the last minute if you can't make the obnoxious fee! This church could afford it, but they said "No thanks." Which brings me to my last thought; I can't see this being a cash cow for much longer. And, before Jon or Kate try to blame it on all the stuff that's slipped out, I think it should be said that I've never seen one thing that wasn't credible or backed up with evidence. You can't cry foul on people sharing your behaviors if you can't control said behavior. They have no one to blame but themselves. And, in some way, I hope they get that message and start looking for ways to change or make amends. No one says these things out of spite or jealousy. Ok...maybe there are a few who do. But, I think people just care (perhaps more than they should). When you're in a situation, it's hard to see how all the pieces fit. It's easy to get caught up in the whirl-wind. The true test of character is the manner in which you find your way out of that whirl-wind.

Anonymous said...

Can someone please explain to me what a 'big box store' is? I had never heard that phrase before. Thanks!

Anonymous said...

Yes, I agree with the several bloggers who asked what have J&K done for their community - what have they given back? Selling stuff that was donated or given to you is not giving back to the community. Oh, I forgot, Kate is always too tired because she has 8 kids and does everything herself, and Jon is too tired because of his job (?!?!?!), his health club workouts and golf.

Anonymous said...

I haven't seen this mentioned, but I find it totally unacceptable that Jon (and Kate) make fun of their son Joel because he lisps. And they do it so obviously. I don't think that's a very constructive way of dealing with it. But I'm sure that's how they deal with everything in their lives.

Anonymous said...

Yes, I agree, Jon's work history does boggle the mind. Especially, as I have read and posted the link, he worked right in the Governor's office (probably from an appeal by Kate), and then he left that job. I may be wrong, but government jobs do include health benefits. It just seems that these two young folks just don't want to get off their butts and actually work like the rest of us.

J said...

BK--the way that she always calls Jon to rescue her amazes me.
Remember when they were talking about how they met? She described herself as self-sufficient.
She has to be one of the most needy, come quick--help me people I have ever watched.
Self sufficient means taking care of a situation as best you can, without looking around and wailing for help. There is NOTHING wrong with asking for assistance when you need it. I am in my 60s and I just take care of things as they happen. Once per week, I go to my daughter's house and help her by taking care of the kids while she's out. While I am there I also clean her 8 rm. house, 3 baths, and I take the kids on an outing such as the zoo after I buzz through the house. No she doesn't have 8, but I still accomplish a lot. I also take care of the pets while I am there.
I noticed the waffle episode recently and wondered the same thing. Did she think that they at 3 or 4 would crawl up her legs while she was cooking, and touch the waffle maker? This baffles me. Two kids (on a rotation) could be the kitchen helpers each time she prepares a meal. They could LEARN how to be around a sink/stove, etc... What a helpless adult she has turned out to be.

Anonymous said...

"quark said...I don't know, I think Kate has pretty much nagged the lobes off Jon."
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That's right! And she's having them made into a new pair of earrings!

jla said...

i can't wait to see the "E! True Hollywood Story"

5monkeys said...

I can't see this being a cash cow for much longer.

Me neither. With everything that is out there on the internet (this blog, for instance) ~ their world will come crashing down on them. I just hope the children aren't hurt in the process.

5monkeys said...

Remember when they were talking about how they met? She described herself as self-sufficient.
She has to be one of the most needy, come quick--help me people I have ever watched.


Kate thinks the world revolves around her, and her needs/wants.

She is what I like to call an "attention whore".

Anonymous said...

Big-box store is a term that refers to a style of physically large chain store, and by extension to the company behind the store. The terms superstore, megastore, and supercenter also refer to these retail establishments.

L said...

"SmartyQ said...

I said: Very true. I think it's been established that Kon are about acquisition, not having, and quantity, not quality. "Acquisition" made me think of "Star Trek"

Okay, here's a compliment for Kon. They sure have the lobes for acquiring. The Grand Nagis would be happy to call them Ferengis

(We of the Continumm don't, however, like them.)
"

Of course you Qs don't like Kons--you're sentient life forms. ;)

And they're not very good Ferengis in that while Ferengis resort to fraud, they are also known to work for their lucre (something Kon will no longer stoop to).

Exploitation begins at home.

J.L. said...

Speaking of that government job that was made for Jon...he reallay should have kept that, with an eye toward the future. Excellent benefits are to be had, along with a retirement fund. SO many of us would love to have a job like that.
The filming of the fgamily definitely was what pushed him to quit that job. I don't know what they were thinking....Here was a stable job, and he could have continued. As soon as the kids are all in school, she could also return to work, at least part time, thereby, setting up a normal household for the family, as the kids grow up. In the future, there will be teenage years, requests for help with cars, tuition, etc...like normal families. They should have thought ahead, rather than selling out. This windfall, I believe, is temporary. They need to shore up their lives for the future. We even hear of MOVIE STARS who fall on hard times, when work dries up. Why do they think they will be different?

FIONA said...

Anonymous said...
Kon seem to be more of just overser's than parents. The Gosselin children are being parented by TLC and Figure 8. TLC and Figure are the ones that determine what the children do. They provide them with food, clothing, housing, and entertainment. Kon are just in charge of making sure the children arrive to their next destination on time.

8/15/2008

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Who provides the love? The emotional security? Who sets the example of how to grow up to be a good citizen....sorry, I don't see them as being parented by anyone. They are just a commodity, that's all.

Anonymous said...

Like many "spent" stars, when the gravy train is over and the fame has gone away, Kon can open up a family style restaurant and call it "Go$$elinmania, An Organic Place To Eat."

Manda said...

BK: And, in some way, I hope they get that message and start looking for ways to change or make amends.

But would it ever be sincere, BK? or just more damage control? I don't want it if it's not sincere. That's offensive on a whole other level.

Laura said...

I've watched J&K+8 for quite a while and I have enjoyed the show because of the kids. After finding your blog, however, my opinion has changed.

- I think Kate's bad behavior is "encouraged" by the show producers. If everything is so staged then maybe her behavior is as well.

- Another insight is that J&K are so immature and spoiled that they actually think that is acceptable behavior. Wow. Sad.

- The Korean cooking episode was the worst demonstration of Kate's immature and rude behavior towards her husband. The woman definetly has issues.

- In *some* recent couch interviews Kate seems to not be herself - I actually saw her smile at Jon. She didn't berate, belittle or blame him - she actually smiled. I think the producers of the show are in the blogoshphere paying attention to what people don't like about Kate.

Questions - why did Kate and the little girls (not sure about the twins) wear DRESSES/SKIRTS to the beach tour. Paleezzz!

5monkeys said...

I think Kate's bad behavior is "encouraged" by the show producers. If everything is so staged then maybe her behavior is as well.

I don't think it is...she blows up at the stupidest stuff. The Toys R Us outing was just embarrassing, for one. When John was cooking the Korean dinner, she went nuts because of the way he was preparing the food. And she got sick of him being in the kitchen.

I have noticed she hasn't yelled "Hellooooooo" in a while.

Manda said...

Laura - I think Kate's bad behavior is "encouraged" by the show producers. If everything is so staged then maybe her behavior is as well.

In *some* recent couch interviews Kate seems to not be herself - I actually saw her smile at Jon. She didn't berate, belittle or blame him - she actually smiled. I think the producers of the show are in the blogoshphere paying attention to what people don't like about Kate.


Unfortunately, the cameras and producers were not around back in 2005 to stage her reactions and outrageous, rude comments when she behaved in the same manner over the nurse issue and degrading the people who had given of their time, money and supplies to remodel their house. That's just two examples of Kate's grand sense of entitlement and lack of tact prior to the gravy train gig.

The recent couch interviews, definitely damage control and it goes to the question I asked BK a little earlier: not a drop of sincerity in it.

I can see Jon and Kate thinking we may fall for it. They've been scamming people for years now and it looks like it's been relatively easy and obviously quite profitable. I'm sure they think they have it down-pat. But the producers and TLC? I thought these were supposed to be people who were familiar with their demographics and know the viewing public generally are a smart crowd. Do they really think they can change course now and make us believe they are so sweet all of a sudden? Is that supposed to dazzle us so that we completely forget what we've been seeing for 2-3 seasons now? Do they think we don't see all of this new interaction is incredibly forced on both Jon and Kate's part? They both appear terribly uncomfortable trying to be nice to one another in the interviews.

I'm offended the ones I thought were supposed to be the smart ones, Figure 8 & TLC, think we are that gullible.

Ravello said...

Many thanks to BK for the insights into J/K. I love reading your posts and comments. Please continue.

Kate reselling donated goods, furniture, baby items is shameful. Actions speak louder than any words.

And I hate the way they both ridicule Joel and hate the way Kate treats the boys. Again, actions speak louder than words. All the platitudes they patter while sitting on the couch or speaking in churches mean nothing once you see them in action.

BK, if you can comment on how the boys are doing? Joel seems to be afraid of Kate who treats him like dirt.

bk said...

j said...
BK--the way that she always calls Jon to rescue her amazes me.
Remember when they were talking about how they met? She described herself as self-sufficient.
She has to be one of the most needy, come quick--help me people I have ever watched.

It's sad, isn't it? What bothers me about her pleas for help is that they are always blown out of proportion. And, she's passive-aggressive. Remember the whole, "Daddy doesn't care about your safety!" crack? What about Kate? We've seen her WATCH the kids do something harmful and then, at the last minute, when Jon hasn't come riding in to her rescue, she moves to intervene. Why? At some point, Jon is going to stop responding to her cries for help and the kids are going to tune her out. Does Kate realize how she's seen by her children in this regard? It doesn't seem like it.

Kate and Jon have this perspective that life is just impossible with the number of children they have. It's crap because any one who's ever had a big family or taught school or had a Brownie troop knows that it doesn't have to be that way. You just have to have some flexibility, which Kate lacks in spades. You have to be able to say, "Jon looks over-whelmed, let's have cold cereal and fruit and call it good."

Kate thinks the world revolves around her, and her needs/wants.
She is what I like to call an "attention whore".

*nods furiously* TOTALLY!
Kate - "Joooonnnnnnnn...can you help me please!?!!!"
Jon - (comes running) "What's the matter? What?!"
Kate - "Jon!!!"
Jon - "WHAT! I'm right here, Kate!"
Kate - "Do you not see that your daughter has on a pink sock and a white sock? What are you thinking honey? This means two loads of laundry...blah, blah, blah."
Jon - (rolls his eyes and grabs Hannah's feet).
Kate - "I'm sorry Hannah, but daddy doesn't care about your appearance."

Jon needs to learn how to slip some xanax into her organic coffee. *Disclaimer- I'm not advocating that he do so. It's a joke. Any follow-through on Jon's part is purely coincidental.

But would it ever be sincere, BK? or just more damage control? I don't want it if it's not sincere. That's offensive on a whole other level.
I agree. Kate is, also, one of those people who does the whole, "I'm sorry....BUT..." thereby negating the apology.

Anonymous said...

When I was growing up, sometimes my father would bake some homemade bread on a Sunday afternoon after church. We always looked forward to that hot bread with butter, shortly after it came out of the oven.
My mother would make one remark after the other--how she hated him messing up her kitchen, etc....
I was a kid, and I knew that she was overreacting and giving him a hard time about his baking. He only did it about3 or 4 times a year. All of the complaining made it almost not worth it.
Now, he's been dead for years and she lives alone with her spotless kitchen...and she has macular degeneration--she couldn't see a crumb in front of her.

Anonymous said...

Honestly, I don't fault Kate for selling donated items. The clothes, the baby furniture, etc. were all GIVEN to them. Unless they were given with a request that they re-donated later, J&K are free to do what they want with them. I've received baby clothes for my daughter that I later sold to a children's resale shop.

What bothers me about the consignment and garage sales that J&K do though is that they aren't very honest about it. They've claimed to "give back" and I think they've said in the past that they would donate some of the stuff, but they haven't.

And of course, I'm bothered by her unwillingness to let the kids get dirty or just be kids. I don't know if it's because she wants the free clothes kept pristine for resale or what, but I do fault her for that. Let the kids be kids, and if you can consign some of their stuff, great. If some of it gets stained and can't be resold, donate it. Someone, somewhere will be grateful for clothes, even if they aren't perfect.

George said...

Honestly, I don't fault Kate for selling donated items. The clothes, the baby furniture, etc. were all GIVEN to them. Unless they were given with a request that they re-donated later, J&K are free to do what they want with them. I've received baby clothes for my daughter that I later sold to a children's resale shop.
If the items were donated by the church I think it's implied you will pay it forward and donate what remains in good condition to the next needy family or take it to the church resale shop. If friends, family or neighbors give you items then I think it would be nice to also pass them on free of charge but I don't think if they don't have objections then it's okay to sell it.
I think since Jon and Kate verbally said they'd donate back then they should be ashamed to be selling those items. It's tacky to take something while promising to pass it on then selling it for your own financial gain. But Jon and Kate are tacky beyond belief so no to much surprises me at this point.

Anonymous said...

Of course they own anything that is given to them.
However, they purport to be giving back and even have a family mission statement.
Sounds good on paper.

somewhereinthemiddle said...

I agree that Kate isn't obligated to donate items that were donated or given to her to charity. And if the family were actually strapped for cash and needed the money generated from consignments or yard sales, I'd say "go for it." I think the fact that she tries to make money off of donated items stings because they clearly do NOT need the money now. People helped them when they needed it, so now they should help others. Not doing so is ungrateful and rude.

Anonymous said...

Has anyone ever notice that Kate seems to secretly pinch the kids when they misbehave. Check out the Dutch Wonderland episode if someone has it on Tivo. I think it was Mady crying sitting in the tups stroller rubbing under her arm saying "it hurts." After Kate "touched" her. I could be wrong but it seems like she was saying that hurts. Then Jon took her aside to scold her. If you notice her reaction when she got out of the stoller its as if she was getting ready to be spanked by the way she bent down as if to get ready for jon to spank her.

Kids will not change their behavior that they are used to in private wile out in public. I hope I did not see what I thought I saw. Somebody please check this episode.

K.C. said...

Anon, Yes, other people noticed that too. You should read the comments under this blog entry: Episode recap-Gosselins Go Dutch. (Look under Blog Archive/July.) The issue with Kate touching Mady at Dutch Wonderland is discussed there. IIRC some people had it on their DVR and looked it up to see exactly what happened then commented about the specifics.

sistah2 said...

I agree that the locals are tired and people in your area caught on to them long ago. What is interesting is they are speaking this Sun. 8/24 at a church in Quarryville, not far from them at all!!! I wonder who is left in that area that would still bother to attend? Kon must be the greatest scam artists ever in order to continue to beg at churches, tell a tale of poverty and make money, all with a nat'l tv program showing them living the millionaire life. They have counted on enough people being very dumb, and/or blindly following their churches expectations to GIVE to whoever is sitting on the stage.

Ravello said...

Regarding the upcoming appearance in central PA, I think there are some very sincere, kind people who will accept whatever KON says at face value and continue to attend and contribute to love offerings.
Not everyone reads the Internet or evaluates what they see and hear.
Some people just watch the show, enjoy the kids and think KON is great.

I attended a love offering in February and the outpouring of adoration to KON was rather shocking.

There is a comment upthread that someone thought it was fine for KON to sell/ consign donated items.
FYI- there are Internet links to promises KON made several years ago that they would donate the baby equipment to others when their kids outgrew the items.

They do not practice what they preach.

They are also awash in cash and freebies yet they continue to beg for money at church appearances.

Anonymous said...

It's as if KON were holding their children over the heads of their "adoring fans" like a sword of Damocles. Of course, the kids are adorable - who's heart wouldn't melt at seeing them. And fortunately, for KON, this has worked to their advantage. I think it's just a question of time that people will eventually wake up and see KON for what they really are.

Anonymous said...

I do read the internet and evaluate what I see and hear. Having wrote that, I disagree with the conclusions that the anti Jon and Kate folk have come up with about this family.

sistah2 said...

Even if I admired KON and thought they were great, I could not fathom in a million years giving any cash to them in a "love offering". Its obvious to even the casual viewer that they are making plenty of money AT THIS POINT and want for nothing. You have to have tunnel vision not to see that there are plenty of other needy families that could so much more deserve a love offering. That said, people certainly can do what they choose when donating to "charity". However, if the KONs were honest about their present situation to the churches, and did not try to misrepresent themselves at the speeches, we all know that they'd get more respect but THE CASH FLOW WOULD SLOW DOWN. They dont want that!!!!!!