Kate's Labor Day

TLC is airing a new Jon & Kate Plus 8 episode tomorrow night (Monday September 1st) -- a 60-minute feature starting at 9:00 p.m. Eastern titled Kate's Labor Day:
At the ripe age of four, the sextuplets wonder where they came from and how they got a start in this big world. Jon and Kate decide to show them the Neonatal Intensive Care Unit (NICU) where they spent their first several weeks.

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Anonymous said...

Jon mentioned they had a TIME SHARE in this episode, sompleace near the Penn State Hospital I think. Time shares cost a fortune in mantaince fees. Not a lot of average income people can stay in such fancy diggs.

Anonymous said...

I love those kids... too cute, but I'm sorry I just cannot stand Kate, it's always about her. Always. I'll be fair, she did give birth to them.
However the ick factor is too high.

So she was an L&D nurse. (I'm watching the show)Interesting.

Onomatopoeia said...

I just did a double-take...did anyone see the same thing I did? About 4 minutes into the show (before the "Stay owt with camra only if invitid" sign by Mady), you could see someone's feet (maybe the camera-person) in the kitchen with blue hospital OR shoe covers...they make the camera-person wear shoe covers in the house????? Wonder if they're organic????? They damn well BETTER BE!!!

And poor Mady. Just get used to it, kid...there's no escape...

Open Eyes said...

Okay so I'm only 15 mins through the show and here are some things I noticed:

1) Did anyone else notice that the camera guy was walking around with scrubs over his shoes while the little boys had bare feet?? Correct me if I'm wrong, but according to Kate aren't boys supposed to be "yucky"? Why is it okay to have the bare feet if they are so "nasty"?

2) The note on the bathroom from Mady!!! In Kate's words: HELLLLO! Obvious sign that something is wrong here! I find it really humourous that people that consider themselves "fans" of J+K are SO hard on this little kid, but Jon and Kate's behavior is just fine. Perhaps deep down they want to believe that Mady will act more mature than her parents.

3) Going to their... timeshare? o_O They are hard up for cash before and after the 'tups but they have a timeshare? If you are really trying to save why in the world would you get and keep a timeshare?!

I'm sure there will be many more- but these are things I didn't want to forget. =)

tmc said...

It's always all about Kate, Kate, Kate. She thinks she is a freaking queen. How about Mady with the "No Camera" sign on the door. I thought that was awesome. Good for her.

I must say, Jon looked really good tonight. Going to the gym, for free, works out well for him. If I didn't have to pay, I'd look good too.

Can someone pleae explain why Alexis is still sleeping in the basement. I find it to be totally unacceptable.

Also, if they want to give to charity, they should be donating money to the Ronald McDonald House.

Anonymous said...

"ou could see someone's feet (maybe the camera-person) in the kitchen with blue hospital OR shoe covers...they make the camera-person wear shoe covers in the house?????"

She has said in previous episodes that she makes them take their shoes off in the house, but one crew member has feet problems so has to keep his on so he must wear shoe covers.

I thought the sign on Maddie's door was so sad, the no cameras. Good for her for standing up for herself!

The part where they are in the OR made me laugh when the Dr arrives and Kate says "Come in" and he makes them leave b/c they need the room. She looks so shocked, what they won't delay a c-section for filming? ha!

Paula said...

Yes, I saw those hospital shoe covers as well.

Also, what was the point of this episode? Boring.

Laura said...

yes, i saw the note but couldnt make out what exactly it read. very intersting,very telling. i think that most of the followers of the show since the beginning have know that QB-Queen B, makes the camera crew wear booties. Less of a mess for her to clean then. I had to shut tonights show off at 8:18. I had enough when she told the kids to group hug the Dr and they didnt know what a group hug was. Can anyone tell me if all the laundry baskets were still in the living room when they got back from the med center??? Had enough.

Kristee said...

Poor Mady, she NEVER invited camera's into her life, but she's at least controlling where they can film her. My heart breaks for her, for all the kids that are the entertainment in Kate's traveling circus.

Please, give them back their childhood now.

Oh, and it seems like the stick that was once housed in Kate's bum is now firmly planted in Jon's as well. I guess that's why the couch interviews seem so uncomfortable. Could he be more short tempered with those children??

mlou said...

Kate does have a no shoe rule for her house, which I can actually understand. Scott has a foot problem so she allows him to wear shoes only if they are covered with booties. She is so kind!!!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Jon mentioned they had a TIME SHARE in this episode, sompleace near the Penn State Hospital I think. Time shares cost a fortune in mantaince fees. Not a lot of average income people can stay in such fancy diggs.
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Yes, I wondered about this, too. The only thing I can think of is that Jon's dad, Dr. Gosselin, paid for it - he paid for a lot before his death in January 2005.

Anonymous said...

This episode of Jon and Kate + 8, another in the continuing series of damage control.

Did she make a big enough show of handing over the check at the Ronald McDonald House?

Lonnyswife said...

Okay-I just have to say, halfway into it that it's like a whole new Kate! If this had been the show up to this point I don't think there would have been the uproar. They even made a donation to the RonMcD House.
The tide may be turning........

tmc said...

Ok, I spoke to soon on my post upthread about giving a donation. She did give them donation, but I don't feel bad, she shouldn't have waited four years...and I'm sure it was TLC who told them to do it they wouldn't have done it on thier own.

fozzybear said...

'Hello, Kate!!!!"

Kate: "It's only taken us four years to make a donation."

We all know the only reason you pulled out your checkbook was because you had the camera's on you and you felt compelled, given the bad reviews from your past shows.

Anonymous said...

Well, it finally happened. I got so bored with this episode and Kate, Kate, Kate that I turn off the TV. First time I've done it. BTW not a fan of Kate.

AnnaK said...

They can't even go on day trips without Jenny now. I thought she was only occasional help?

Anonymous said...

I loved it when the doc kicked them out of the surgery room......Kate invites him in first like it was hers. That was priceless. The other kicker, Kate writes a check and gives it to R MC house.....takes her 4 years to do that, of course, she had to wait so it can be filmed. Talk about blatant damage control. Kate is so predictable.

Anonymous said...

I have to admit, I thought it was sweet that they took the girls to the Ronald McDonald House and I thought the donation was genuine.

Obviously they are letting it be known that they do have money now.

Damage Control or not...I liked it.

Anonymous said...

I didnt think to day was too bad but I recorded it and am only half way through. I think it was rather ok and they were pretty well behaved.

Anonymous said...

Who wants to bet Figure 8 paid for that contribution?

Angela said...

Did anyone else notice not one thank you to the helpers that helped out at the timeshare? Just a loss of control from poor Jon and Kate. Me! Me! Me! Who cares about all those people that donated their time, they don't know how to help them anymore, so they are out the door!

fozzybear said...

I just saw Kate chase one of the boys from the room that was supposed to be the 'girl's' bedroom. So I'm assuming that they spent the night there. Maybe that's why Jenny went with.

Anonymous said...

"Also, if they want to give to charity, they should be donating money to the Ronald McDonald House."
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Did you see the blatant DAMAGE CONTROL?? Kate had a check in her hand and asked the Ronald McDonald House lady, "Who should I give this to?" She gave the check to the woman who graciously thanked her. Question: Why did KON wait four, count'em four years to give a check to Ronald McDonald House? Because they simply needed an opportunity to show they are "giving back." Everything they do now is damage control!
Also - this episode was sickening. ALL ABOUT KATE. I, me, myself, etc. Get over yourself, Kate!

Kristen said...

I hated the comment Kate made on the couch when they were talking about Collin and Joel throwing the magnets off the fridge....

"They were being boys."

How about they were acting like 4 year olds?

Oh right, I forgot that *perfect* Hannah and Leah would never dream of doing anything like that....and Alexis is locked in the basement.

Anonymous said...

If Kates 6 were still in the nicu, she would have been mortified if six snotty little kids, loud and rambuntious were outside the door of "her babies" rooms. One child acted out and Jon was embarrassed and told them they were done and it was time to leave. He left "alone" with one Aaden..Kate kept talking and letting her children talk and be rude. She is always so mad when children have not been taught privacy.( The little girl who tried to get an autograph 9, she told them no and that the parents need to teach them privacy) I guess her children are above it. She clearly never said anything to them about putting their "germy" hands all over someone else's bed. And letting them run around that sterile operating room.. shame on Kate and unit. I wouldn't want to be in a room where children were. Kate admitted the boys can get nasty (cupgate episode) and she lets them use those nasty potties without toilet paper. So imagine their hands touching your sterile bed where your newborn would be. What were they thinking??
O yeah getting a memory.

Anonymous said...

It's time to give back in front of everyone. I guess Aunt Jodi couldn't be a part of your giving back.. Wait you did give her something. The Shaft!!

Anonymous said...

This episode actually made me a little sad. It seems like they were just regular "Joe's" back then, with every parents fears about their babies. It's a shame they seemed to have changed so much with their newfound celebrity. Also, I think the"tv people" have encouraged Kate to open up more and show more of a human side than the ban-shee we see so often.

Anonymous said...

What did Mady say in the hospital hall after Kate called herself a mean mommy and Jon a nice daddy? Mady said something about Jon. I couldn't understand what she said. Can anyone help me out?

littleangelkisses said...

I am completely suprised that the NICU allowed them IN! They had to kick all of the parents of the infants OUT to get them in. In many NICUs, including both that my son was in, NO kids are allowed, not even siblings! Then later at the "condo" one of the boys vomits! WHAT THE HELL were they thinking???

I have a real issue with this episode. Yes, we know you had an amazing delivery, but your attitude sucks...

There is just so much here that I can't stomach!

"walking on this floor brings back such memories" what is that supposed to mean? "we SHOULD have had this room" (at the RMH) yeah, you should have had the suite right?

ugh....

adri said...

I can't help it; I really liked this episode for the most part. Maybe it's because I'm a mom of a NICU grad, but this was one of the few times I felt I could relate to Kate.

I was glad to see them donate to Ronald McDonald House as well. Damage control or not, it's still a worthwhile cause.

But yeah...the sign Mady created was very telling, IMHO. I think it reminds us why GWOP exists. And is it just me, or did anyone else think Kate was prettier when the kids were younger? When she had the brownish hair, I thought she looked softer. Not that she's ugly now lookswise, but I think the blonde & the haircut make her look too harsh. Of course, some of what she says & does don't help this either.

Renee said...

Strange as it sounds, I am one of those rare people that started out HATING Kate but have gradually warmed up to her. I still think everything they're doing to their children is so wrong and I would never defend the lying and forsaking family and faux-sanctimonious bullshit. But when I saw Kate crying tonight I saw glimpses of someone maybe who knows they dug themself into a huge grave and now just doesn't know how to get out. I have noticed her trying to let go of control, be less anal, and even in a tiny way trying to be a better mother. I think maybe she is going to therapy or being medicated behind the scenes because she seems a little more committed to being less vile. Maybe it's spin or damage control (as most things they do are) but I am willing to cut her a little slack when I perceive a willingness to change. I was thinking the ending of tonight's episode really looks like a series finale. Wouldn't it be awesome if they sprung it on us? I was also surprised to hear her mention a grandmother.

sis said...

I will have to read the posts.

I was so bored and tired of The Kate Show that her droning voice put me to sleep. Missed it all. Not sorry.

Anonymous said...

I'm on the west coast, so I haven't watched the episode...if they had a little bit of class, they should have been writing those checks a long time ago and sending them without having to show the world. And then when their greed is questioned they could have said that they have been donating for years. Who wants to bet this is the one and only donation to the Ronald McDonald house. I'm not knocking it, it's about time is all I am saying. Did they mention how much the check was for?

Kristee said...

I stopped watching at 9:20. I saw the last 3 or 4 minutes where Kate turned on the tears and started weeping. P L E A S E....she has no one to blame but herself for their life being so hard now. Actually, her life is great right now, free trips, spa's, fancy food..it's her kids that are paying the price.

Anyone else feel like they were sprayed by skunk tonight....I wonder what removes Kate from your clothes?

Sera said...

I think the most telling thing about Mady's "No Cameras!" sign on the downstairs playroom door was that she motioned for the camera guy to come over, then pointed at the sign and slammed the door on the camera. Good for you Mady! I also heard her say a few times at the hospital "I want to leave this place!" I don't blame her - they should have left the twins with Jenny at a park or something and come back to get them when it was time to go to the RMcHouse.

This episode reeked of damage control for me for several reasons:
1. Kate was holding boys' hands whilst touring the hospital - normally she always has the girls.
2. Kate started "crying" about their much more simple life pre-tups
3. Jon asked Kate not to judge him about scolding the boys for throwing magnets
4. The donation to the RMcHouse...*shakes head*

Another thing I noticed which bothered me was that the TV lighting is also in the children's bedrooms! I don't agree with the TV lighting being in the house in the first place, but if it's installed, then I can kinda see it being in common rooms, but the children's bedrooms?! That is going overboard.

By the way, Kate, that green shirt looks awful on you and your hair looks "stribbly."

Barb said...

Why did they have to ruin a perfectly good Matthew Sweet song at the end?

Sera said...

I forgot to add that I don't even know where to begin with this timeshare nonsense. I could see that as something Jon's dad paid for when he was alive. But they've never mentioned this timeshare before, I am curious as to whether or not they've had it all this time; they must have because they still had access to it...so bizarre.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Who wants to bet Figure 8 paid for that contribution?
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My understanding that whatever is done as part of "the show" then Figure 8 pays the tab. I assumed when Kate handed over the check that it was Figure 8 $$$.

Anonymous said...

It's no mystery that this is reality television and that they events that go on are pre-planned but the recent episodes are so scripted and staged that it's disgusting! And I'm no parent or expert but isn't Mady a bit old to have the tantrums that she has?

Lonnyswife said...

Honestly, if this was the first show I'd seen since the specials I don't think I would have gotten my panties in a knot. The comment about the boys being boys regarding the magnet episode? I had all boys and probably either said or heard that comment all the time. Kate really seemed subdued, especially during couch time. Yes, there was a couple of times she interjected rather loudly to make sure she was heard, but there didn't seem to be the amount of control excercised that we usually see. The bootie things on the camera man? Really not a big deal in my book. I spent alot of time living on islands and everyone takes their shoes off, which seems to be normal at the G's. The camera people are probably in and out of the house so often that the booties are easy for them.
My big complaint was the level of noise from the kids while in the hospital and then again at the time share ( which possibly belonged to Dr. G and the boys decided to keep after his death?? Just a guess. Maybe Julie knows for sure.)Definitely they need to be taught limits of behavior in public places. And they do go alot so would seem like this would be something J&K should really put some effort into correcting. I was in a hotel room once visiting with my sister who has five and security was called....TWICE. It was embarassing and not necessary if children are taught limits.

Anonymous said...

The hospital allowed the gaggle of kids into an open NICU with babies
in it and I could see one was on the vent. It makes me so mad because I remember the infectious disease precautions i had to take with my older child and never being able to bring her up there and the late night visits to the nicu because of their rules and here this gaggle of kids and a tv crew could galavant about while our family struggled. My husband barely got to go up to see our son durring his 6 week stay in NICU but we just did our best and made due. This just upsets me, and likely other parents of preemies out there, on a level I cannot
describe.

K.C. said...

I just started watching. The first couch scene is on and...OMG! Kate's HAIR!

moi said...

Oh, the sobbing about their simple life "before"!

Here's an idea, feel free to steal it: No more series; only once-a-year specials.

It's that easy.

Anonymous said...

Oh Kate you ruined it.. You almost had my heart, and then you go and diss your darling son Aaden when he said "Mommmy you are pretty" and you sharply said "thank you Aaeden, I don't feel pretty right now"...

All I can say about this episode was it was boring! And also who would want to pay to hear Jon and Kate speak now - when we know EVERYTHING.. what else is to say?

I want to see the show continue because I love the kids but I wish there were changes made to make me feel the kids were getting the proper care and attention.

Mady is one miserable little girl and she really needs help, seriously. If Mady acts like that everyday, then God bless Kate for holding back. Mady is very very very angry and needs to talk to a professional or her life is going to be horrible!

4tolove said...

This would have been an enjoyable show if it were a follow up or an update to their first special (was it called Surviving Twins and Sextuplets?). However, since we can see them every week, and we know what has been going on for the last four years, this was just another boring snooze-fest of "Watch us go somewhere and make a memory."

About Kate's tears: Those times, when the tups were first born, were times that she had the unconditional love and unwavering support of her family and friends. I think those tears are tears of sadness because of what she has lost in those years. Unfortunately, I think she justifies those losses because, with this show, they are abel to have all they want in life. I don't think she has enough perspective to realize that the financial gains and notoriety will never make up for the lost family and friends.

Last, the timeshare near the hospital was probably donated. You can do that for situations like this.

SecretMonkey said...

"I just did a double-take...did anyone see the same thing I did? About 4 minutes into the show (before the "Stay owt with camra only if invitid" sign by Mady), you could see someone's feet (maybe the camera-person) in the kitchen with blue hospital OR shoe covers...they make the camera-person wear shoe covers in the house????? Wonder if they're organic????? They damn well BETTER BE!!!"

I saw the shoe covers too. I thought, "Are they having another piano delivered?" :-)

Nadia said...

I have not watched J$K in a few weeks because I do not want to support them in any way, but tonight because I am a premmie mom myself (my twin boys were born at 29 weeks) I could not help myself. I have to admit that I was very touched by tonights show, not because of any thing that Jon and Kate did, but because watching the medical staff brought back so many memories of the amazing people fighting to save my little boys lives. I think that I cried through the whole show, but a few things raised my eyebrows a little.

I felt really bad for Scott, the medical booties seemed to be a little much. What happened to his indoor/outdoor shoes, maybe they were to dirty for Kate, after all Scott is a boy (yucky in Kates eyes, can we say grade two).

A TIME SHARE! I have relatives that are very very wealthy and they sold their time shares because they are some of the biggest rip-offs in the world (second only to KON of course)and all the while they are pleading poverty!!!! OMG !!!! Well I have to admit that takes the organic cake. How transparent there lies are!!!!

littleangelkisses said...

anon 7:20, that is what really upset me too....I am still floored that they let them all in with babies there.

I also noticed that they talked about how they were never alone in the condo. They complained about getting no sleep the first night with the babies, talked about night feedings, and then admitted to have night nurses (plural)

Evileye said...

I went to Hershey this summer. The hotel/coroprate living residence that is really close to the Park has timeshares. However you can also stay there if are renting from a timeshare owner. You must stay there for certain number of nights. I doubt they would have a timeshare there, msinly because they lived so close by. I'm thinking some people donated their stay. I don't think they paid for anything during that whole ordeal. I just think JK8 are not too bright. They say stupid words to replace words that would make explanations easier for their public. For example, properties when instead they should say home. In this case it's timeshare, they should have just said the apartment we stayed at when the babies were in process of being brought home for the NICU (or something shorter of course). I just don't get why they talk like that either, the only reason I can find is to show off. That's why I think they're stupid, they don't get that they can show off but still ask for handouts?

Anonymous said...

I have never been angry about a TV show before like I was today. My son got MRSA in the NICU. It almost killed him. To have all these kids there with no valid reason other than for a TV show there makes me angry. Shame on TLC! Shame on Jon and Kate. Shame on the neonatologists and the hospital for putting the preemies currently in the NICU in danger for the sake of publicity!

Anonymous said...

I'll have to admit that this episode won back my heart somewhat. I loved seeing the hospital and NICU because it reminds me of my triplet's stay in the NICU and I could really identify with Kate on so many levels-emotionally, physically, the particular "stress"(believe it or not)that comes with too many observers, too much help, etc. All in all, I loved this episode because it had the sort of spirit about it that made me interested in their family early on.
And I'm really happy about the donation to the Ronald McDonald House, an institution that couldn't be any more worthy. This show of gratitude, whether its timely or not, is very important as it will help someone else.

laura said...

I shut the tv off early tongight and then turned it back on at the very end, when she was tearing up about how easy life was with a family of 4. well no shit lady. what did you think that you were going to have lattes and spas while the rest of the world took care of your kids becuase you had two and then six and they're soo cute?

I have a feeling that once they move into their new house that is supposedly being built we will never see this family on TV again and we will never hear about them again. I think that Jon has had it with the circus.

I agree with the poster up the string that if Kates tears werent crocodile tears tonight,has finally seen the light and is ready to leave this all behind. I cant imagine letting my family and friends walk away from me and my kids over money. I cant imagine having people that i dont even know bad mouth me everywhere in public and online. I cant imagine having my kids on tv and on the internet and then have strangers walk up like they know us. As materialistic as Kate is all she could see in the beginning were the dollar signs and all the free matching Gap outfits. They've probably got a couple million in the bank now and have freebies/perks lined up for the rest of the childrens childhoods. They could do nothing better than to make this the last, dare i say, season.

But tonights tears might all be a damage control ploy to make us think that she does care and has a clue to what is going on outside of her world.

K.C. said...

Did anyone happen to check out the calendar shot at the beginning? I can only make out part of the words on the 18th.

18, filming, usic, o

19, 3pm, NICU--->

Does that say 'filming music video'? If so, could it be for a new one? Maybe we were right about the singing in the last episode being a preview of what's to come...I would assume the music video, (for lack of better words), they aired after Girls Day Out was filmed prior to the footage for this episode. Does anyone know when Kate's Labor Day was filmed?

SecretMonkey said...

"I'll have to admit that this episode won back my heart somewhat. I loved seeing the hospital and NICU because it reminds me of my triplet's stay in the NICU and I could really identify with Kate on so many levels-emotionally, physically, the particular "stress"(believe it or not)that comes with too many observers, too much help, etc. All in all, I loved this episode because it had the sort of spirit about it that made me interested in their family early on."

As episodes go, this wasn't so bad. Kate discounted Mady's feelings again, misunderstanding her, but she came across as more genuine and likable in the Hershey Medical Center than she has in seasons. As much as I don't like her parenting skills, and how she treats people, I do respect that carrying sextuplets had to be terrifying for Kate, as well as physically demanding. I'll never snark on her carrying those six babies as long as she could, that's for sure.

4tolove said...

"What did Mady say in the hospital hall after Kate called herself a mean mommy and Jon a nice daddy? Mady said something about Jon. I couldn't understand what she said. Can anyone help me out?"

Kate called herself "Scary Mommy" (I think because of her appearance in the photo) and Jon "Nice Daddy". Mady said Daddy is scary now because he has bald spots on his head.

"Then later at the "condo" one of the boys vomits! WHAT THE HELL were they thinking????"

At first it sounded like Aaden says "Collin puked" but I played it again and he said "Collin pooped".

Anonymous said...

This episode was boring. Did anyone else notice that the hospital workers really did not seem all that thrilled to see the family. The doctors or nurse's, there was no big celebration to welcome the family. The time share was probably paid for by donations. The kids are getting more and more harder to watch. They are always crying and whining. I have never seen a almost 8 y/o throw so many fits and having so many crying spells as Matty. They should stop filming her.
The donation was obvious damage control. They have been reading the bloggs and know that people are on to how greedy Kon is. Figure 8 probably picked up the tab for the donation. I dont think that came out of Kons pocket, they have 8 kids you know.
This episode was about Kate, Kate,and more Kate. She is so boring. The couch interview, I saw two greedy people who are starting to feel the heat of people not liking them. I think it really bothers them, Jon at least that people are on to them and know that they are exploiting their children. Kate looked so tired during this episode that was why she was crying in IMO, because she was exhausted. I think that Jon is getting tired of this whole situation. I think they are in too deep, and it starting to show.
I disagree with the the poster who said that Kate has changed. I dont think that she has changed. She has just gotten smarter and better at hiding her true self during this episode. I dont think I would ever warm up to her. I change would be for her to stop the madness and kick the camera crew out of her new house.
Lastly Kate please stop saying how every house that you live in is too small. The houses are not too small your ego is just too big to fit into a house of any size.

fozzybear said...

I had this thought today while I was busy edging my driveway. I live in North Carolina and anyone that lives here can tell you that the dirt here is a very red,sticky, clay. When wet it sticks to the bottom of your shoes, stains them red. Stains your fingernails,and skin if you are working in it. If Jon and Kate move to NC, how in the world is Kate going to deal with the dirt here?

littleangelkisses said...

ahh...I didn't DVR this so I could have heard wrong!

Mady says something about Jon's hair and then Kate scolds her. Wonder where she got that from huh?

Anonymous said...

They had no right to bring their germs into that area of the hospital. She has no problem putting other children's lives in danger to make a buck. Can you imagine what she would have done if someone would have tried the same thing when the twins were there? Kate...you make me sick!!!! I think the hospital should have put their foot down and said "NO" to the whole thing.

Anonymous said...

I wonder what happened behind the closed bedroom door after Jon and Mady went into the room. When Jon came out he had a look on his face when he shut the door behind him and you could hear Mady was crying. I'm guessing there was a price for Mady not wanting oatmeal (which looked gray and gross) for breakfast.

Kate's tears are not due to any insight are on her, they're because she probably feels that she is "misunderstood" by those who just don't understand how hard life is for her.

Kon manipulated everyone around them and have the nerve to act in any way other than with extreme gratitude.

Kristee said...

I have a question. I went back and watched the middle part and the scene where J $ K and all the kids looking into a private room. There is a nurse in there holding a baby to her chest. One of the kids act up and Jon grabs him and mutters something like "We'll have a baby soon?!" I hope I'm delirious and heard it wrong. Did anyone else hear Jon say this?

LAP said...

moi said...
Oh, the sobbing about their simple life "before"!

Here's an idea, feel free to steal it: No more series; only once-a-year specials.

It's that easy.
*********************

That's the same thing I thought. This would have made a great 1 hour follow up special to their previous ones or at least make it be their very last episode EVER!

All I can say is this was nothing but damage control.

And did anyone else pick this up...it was when J&K were talking to a nurse who was in a hospital room holding a baby. One of the little girls whined about wanting to hold a baby or have a baby and I could have sworn Jon said, 'We'll have a baby soon' or 'You can hold a baby soon.' I had to rewind my TV a couple of times and I DVR'd it so I might go back and listen to what it really says.

the path to perdition said...

Add me to the "horrified about the NICU tour" train.

My 2nd and 3rd children were both 32 week premmies. My oldest never set foot in the NICU. I would not have allowed it, even if the hospital permitted it. And they most certainly did NOT.

The thought of someone else's fragile baby getting sick because of my oldest would have killed me.

Shame on Jon & Kate and Figure 8 productions for having so little regard for the infants in that NICU. And shame on that hospital for allowing it.

This show is not so important that children's lives should be risked needlessly. For what, a television show!

For Shame.

LAP said...

K.C. said...
Did anyone happen to check out the calendar shot at the beginning? I can only make out part of the words on the 18th.

18, filming, usic, o

19, 3pm, NICU--->

Does that say 'filming music video'? If so, could it be for a new one? Maybe we were right about the singing in the last episode being a preview of what's to come...I would assume the music video, (for lack of better words), they aired after Girls Day Out was filmed prior to the footage for this episode. Does anyone know when Kate's Labor Day was filmed?

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I paused the TV to look at the calander too. I thought it looked like it said music video and then I could have sworn on that day as well it said 'Janet' above everything and it said that for the following week as well. I thought Janet had moved?

Plus, I did see Kate put out all of the laundry baskets before she left...wonder who had that job?

There was another thing that stuck out in my mind as well but the thought is gone...

Anonymous said...

Lastly Kate please stop saying how every house that you live in is too small. The houses are not too small your ego is just too big to fit into a house of any size

comment of the week!!

WatchOverThem said...

Does anyone know how that operating room all the Gosselins were walking through would have to be totally re-sterilized? Nice.

Maybe Kate would like a boob job in there, without re-treating the room.

pullthegosselinplug said...

I think Kate cried because she realized she was actually happy at that time in her life and I don't think she has been happy for years.
On some level, she has to know that money and things can never take the place of everything she has sacrificed - the closeness with their extended families, the privacy and normalcy of their children, etc. I even got a lump in my throat when Jon kept saying about how much stress they are going through right now. I know he could step up and take charge and I so wish that he would.
What do you think Mady and Cara are thinking when Kate talks about the time they stayed with their grandmom? I can't imagine they don't say "Yeah, why don't we see her anymore?" What explanations do you think they offer?
I don't think they own(ed) the timeshare - I think, like someone else said, they just used the wrong term. They also said "condo" which is probably right. Does anyone else think the stress is really starting to show on Kate's appearance? What is she trying to cover up with all that make-up?

Anonymous said...

anonymous said...
They had no right to bring their germs into that area of the hospital. She has no problem putting other children's lives in danger to make a buck. Can you imagine what she would have done if someone would have tried the same thing when the twins were there? Kate...you make me sick!!!! I think the hospital should have put their foot down and said "NO" to the whole thing.

My guess is that when TLC contacted the hospital they offered a donation for their troubles.
http://www.gantdaily.com/news/43/ARTICLE/29329/2008-08-30.html

Kristee said...

LOL, the first doctor that Kate welcomed into HER operating room was not impressed by any of the goings on. I'm betting he was bugging because they needed the room, now it needed to be re~sterilized and last because he probably thought he'd never have to see Kon again!

The poor woman who needed the OR should have known better than to need a c~section during the filming of Jon and Kate's Variety Hour.

Oh, and I never got to visit my nephews while they were in the NICU. I had little ones at home, in preschool and my sister was worried about me passing germs to them. I understood completely. I can't imagine why the hospital would allow all those kids into that area with the potential of getting so many babies sick.

Anonymous said...

Note to churches who give love offers. People who are able to give donations this is in Kons case do not need donations.
Note to people who are starting to warm up to Kon because of this episode. The circumstances have not changed. They are still exploiting innocent children for money.
Kate is still the same Kate Gosselin it took her 30 plus years to get that way. I doubt a day trip to PennState hospital has changed her. IMO.

Anonymous said...

My guess is that when TLC contacted the hospital they offered a donation for their troubles.

If there is one thing that we've learned from this show it's that doing something for money it can frequently mean that you're doing it for the wrong reason or that you're doing something wrong.

Anonymous said...

It still boggles my mind, when Kate mentions being a nurse(and an L&D one at that!) and yet still went ahead with her crazy process of getting pregnant with the tups, knowing the risk with having 6 kids and the claims to not know it could have been that many. It irritates me so much.

Anonymous said...

I thought that Kate's tears were geniune. Jon seemed uncomfortable by her emotional outburst at the end, and the look on his face was telling -- they are both unhappy people. I actually began to feel bad for them.

Anonymous said...

Did anyone notice Kate playing with her wedding ring and band a lot during the couch sessions. Like every single time they showed them on the couch she was playing with them. It kind of bothered me a lot with that fidgeting.

Martina said...

Did anyone catch Kate saying that she used to be 100 times more germaphobic than she is now? She said she wiped down the tables in RMcH repeatedly. Then they show the picture of the tups *on the floor* at the timeshare. I'm sorry, but does germaphobia stop where your feet are???

Seriously, can someone else verify that I saw/heard that correctly??

mlou said...

I am curious as to why all the shows lately have been 1 hour instead of 30 mins. as they used to be. I would think if they wanted to do damage control that they would realize this is just more time the kids have to be in front of the camera. If anything they could break up an episode into two weeks. If they did this, IMO, they wouldn't have to be so desperate to come up with new ideas.

Anonymous said...

OK, help me here. They show some of the tups being awakened from their naps so they could go to the NICU. The calendar told that the event was at 3pm. Then why, when some were getting loud or acting up in the NICU did Kate say something about in the future doing these things "after nap"? Is she so accustomed to blaming poor behavior on food and/or sleep needs that she instinctively uses those excuses even when not applicable? If so, that sure is the easy way out.

pullthegosselinplug said...

I think the episodes are being aired about 6 weeks after being filmed so that would put this visit right after the NC vacation.
I live between Hershey and Harrisburg PA and there was a blurb in our Sunday paper yesterday about the filming and that it was airing tonight. I think they said it was filmed mid-July. (my own anal retentive husband has already put the paper out for recycle or I would check it for you!) Kate did still look very tan from the Outer Banks trip.

I too am appalled that the kids were allowed in the NICU and OR.
You would think as a labor and delivery nurse Kate would certainly know how bad that could turn out. In true J&K fashion - very inconsiderate and selfish.
But, you gotta do what you gotta do when your life is the show and the show is your life, I guess.

Anonymous said...

Does TLC think that the viewers are stupid to believe that the money donated to the Ronald McDonald House came out of Kons pocket?
Kate did not want her own family member Aunt Jodi to get paid for her being on the show.
I bet that the Ronald McDonald house did not put two and two together, that they are accepting money as a result of child exploitation.

Anonymous said...

"And did anyone else pick this up...it was when J&K were talking to a nurse who was in a hospital room holding a baby. One of the little girls whined about wanting to hold a baby or have a baby and I could have sworn Jon said, 'We'll have a baby soon' or 'You can hold a baby soon.'"
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I did not catch this. I hope it does NOT mean what we think it might mean. That would be horrifying.

Anonymous said...

I know that there are number of people who are impressed with Kate donating money to the Ronald McDonald house. How does a person with no income have any money to donate? Her children have jobs but their parents are unemployed. Before people give Kate a pat on the back for giving back to the community. Do not forget where the money came from. It came from them exploiting their children.

Barbara said...

Kristee, I thought I heard the same thing you did about having a new baby, but I thought maybe it was just me thinking about that so much. Because the shirt she was wearing on the couch, I swear, made her look pregnant. And the top she was wearing while visiting the hospital was loose and I began to think maybe they were going to announce she was pregnant at the end of the show.

Kristee said...

How exactly is J n K explaining their fertility nightmare? IIRC, it took them less than a year to conceive with the twins, and about the same for the tups. This isn't a nightmare, is it? I know plenty of people who have waited 2, 3, 4 years to get pregnant. Maybe I missed part of the story....

Anonymous said...

"I was glad to see them donate to Ronald McDonald House as well. Damage control or not, it's still a worthwhile cause."

I agree 100%. Regardless of the motive, they still did it.
Everyone here complains that they dont donate enough and when they do finally do it, everyone jumps on them. I am going to give this round to the Gosselins.

I do agree though, letting the kids in the nicu was too far.

Anonymous said...

I think in this episode. We see that Jon has really checked himself out of this marriage. Kon stop pretending we can all see that the love is gone between you two. He did not even try to comfort her on the couch when she started to cry. I think those were fake tears. Jon wants out of this situation with the filming.
He is well aware that most people think that he is a fool for putting up with Kate and not being a man. Kate is the driving force behind this whole circus. I wish they could see how boring this whole show is getting.
Next epsiode is the family getting more free stuff, this time camping gear. To do what? Campout in their own back yard. Now Figure 8 is really stretching. Figure 8 please throw us a bone and surprise us. Make the opening episode for season 4 be the shows finale.

SecretMonkey said...

"How exactly is J n K explaining their fertility nightmare?"

I think they are considered a nightmare because they had sextuplets, period.

Anonymous said...

"I know that there are number of people who are impressed with Kate donating money to the Ronald McDonald house. How does a person with no income have any money to donate? Her children have jobs but their parents are unemployed. Before people give Kate a pat on the back for giving back to the community. Do not forget where the money came from. It came from them exploiting their children."

Regardless of how they got it. They chose to spend the money on something other than themselves. I think that is an improvement.

Anonymous said...

Kristee, 7:48PM-

Yes, I could swear I heard Jon say that as well, something like "Don't worry, we will have our baby soon" I thought I was hearing things, maybe not huh?

Steph said...

I think the tears were real. She wanted six babies until she really got them. She said herself (and I think it was honest) that it took her two years before she realized that this WAS her new normal. She wouldn't take it back now, because she loves her kids, but she wishes she hadn't done it. I think all of that was honest, and it hurts her to feel that way. Her life was pretty perfect with the twins-her life was manageable, her family was involved,and they had a nice little life. Now, it is overwhelming most of the time for her. (Which is why she "escapes" so often.)
Do I feel sorry for her? No. But I think she was being honest for once.

Anonymous said...

I didn't catch the baby comment from Jon. What do you think would happen if they had one more? Jon and Kate Plus 9 doesn't have the same ring to it...

Ms TJB said...

Anonymous said...

It's time to give back in front of everyone. I guess Aunt Jodi couldn't be a part of your giving back.. Wait you did give her something. The Shaft!!

9/01/2008 7:03 PM

I NOMINATE THIS FOR COMMENT OF THE WEEK........PRICELESS!!!

Kristee said...

Barbara and Anon~~
Thanks, at least we heard the same thing! I've been thinking all along that Kate looked pregnant in the Hawaii photo's, maybe that's what the opening of season 4 is going to be.

SecretMonke~~
Thanks, I thought the nightmare was they spent a lot of time trying to get pregnant...I kinda think by Kate using the word nightmare is a little harsh, look at the beautiful kids she has from a supposed nightmare.

CarolSue said...

I usually don't comment on anyone's appearance-But this woman has gotten on my last nerve-
This is the worst hair highlighting I've ever seen-
She has more than enough money to go to a good colorist-Maybe it's me being out of touch?-It could be called striping- Whatever it is, it's not a good look on her-

Anonymous said...

i am not taking up for kate at all and have criticized her in many previous posts, but i wonder if she gave the donation after 4 years because now they are in a financial position where they are able to do so?

Hugabug said...

Are they using a different chair for the interviews? J&K seem very squeezed into the chair. (Watching it now on the West Coast).

Anonymous said...

"And did anyone else pick this up...it was when J&K were talking to a nurse who was in a hospital room holding a baby. One of the little girls whined about wanting to hold a baby or have a baby and I could have sworn Jon said, 'We'll have a baby soon' or 'You can hold a baby soon.'"
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I had to jump on here and carefully read through all the comments to see if anyone else heard what I heard! I watched that part 3 times...As they are walking away from the doorway, one of the kids seemed to say something to the effect that they would have a baby soon and then Jon (from what it sounded like) agreed with them. Are we just hearing things? Can someone please rewatch it and let us know what you hear?

Anonymous said...

Kate was a L&D nurse? I thought she was a dialysis nurse? Also, I thougt that one you have had a tummy tuck, you really must be finished having children (something about the ab. muscles being tightened and not able expand w/ any more pregnancies). I culd be mistaken. I too heard th "You'll hold/have a baby soon." Lord Be! Let us hope we all mis-heard!

Ms TJB said...

I just sent an e-mail to Gosselins saying how sick I am about them going into NIC-U with all their kids. I inquired if they will ever say "NO" to anything about the show. That they would have had a cow if it had been their babies in the NIC-U and someone did that. It is their choice to put their kids in jeopardy on a dialy basis, but what gives them the right to do it to someone elses little baby for a "moment" on the show.

Our daughter was there only 1 week, but there were times I was turned away due to issues with the other babies in the NIC-U with her.

SHAME ON THE GOSSELINS, TLC, FIGURE 8 AND EVEN THE HOSPITAL FOR ALLOWING THIS TO OCCUR!!!!

I hope that some of the parents of the babies in the NIC-U get together and issue a statement or something about this incident. Their babies were clearly put in a bad situation!!! I sure hope none of them get sick or anything as a result of all the unnecessary "visitors" to the NIC-U.

GOD BLESS AND BE WITH ALL THE BABIES AND FAMILIES OF THE BABIES IN THE NIC-U.

Anonymous said...

Just a comment about Mady needing "help" because she is always "angry" ... I think this is taking it too far. A child throwing a tantrum is nothing to be alarmed about and do note that we are watching only select snipplets of their lives. I do agree that in the long run, the kids are going to be affected negatively though.

Anonymous said...

"I know that there are number of people who are impressed with Kate donating money to the Ronald McDonald house. How does a person with no income have any money to donate? Her children have jobs but their parents are unemployed. Before people give Kate a pat on the back for giving back to the community. Do not forget where the money came from. It came from them exploiting their children."

"Regardless of how they got it. They chose to spend the money on something other than themselves. I think that is an improvement."

Re:Anon. So if I were to sell drugs and then donate the money to
Ronald McDonald House that would be ok? It would be an improvement, right? Not. I would still be ruining lives, the people who I sell the drugs to and their families. It is not right for them to donate money they received from exploiting their children. Even though it is going towards a good cause. Their using bad money to do good deeds.

LFWH said...

Is it me or did the doctor, who asked them to leave the delivery area, seem a bit annoyed as they were walking out? Maybe he was annoyed with Kate saying "Come in." when they needed the room for a real patient, perhaps?

It didn't seem like too many of the staff were very excited by the prospect of them touring the facility. I know the staff was busy with patients, but I wonder if Kate was rude to the staff there when she was a patient and that is why, to me anyway, the staff were not lined up to greet them?

Anonymous said...

1. I had a preemie in the NICU and thought it was horrible they were allowed in. In ours only parents and grandparents were allowed (with permission only) and we had to scrub with a brush at the sink for over 5 minutes before entering. I thought it was rude they went in--why couldn't they just show them a window to look through like my other kids had to do?
2. I didn't think the shoe cover thing was so bad. I would not really like lots of people in shoes in my house all the time. Not many people stop to think what sort of things end up on the bottom of shoes and then end up all over your house. No shoes or shoe covers sounds right to me as far as camera people or repair people coming into your home.
3. The donation should not impress anyone. They probably did not "choose" this. It was scripted in and probably given to them by the production company anyway! Why would they have just not sent a check earlier (off camera) otherwise?
4. Still telling boys they are not allowed in girl's rooms. What a shame.
5. As for the pregnancy speculation, I could have sworn she said when she walked into the hospital that "being pregnant the smell makes her sick" and it didn't sound like she was flashing back to when she WAS pregnant. AND she looks pregnant in all her tops on the show now.
6. Why is it that parents of 8 have nothing whatsoever on their walls? Everything looks like a hospital room with no personality whatsover. I can't help thinking they just see every house they live in as temporary until they get their free dream house. I mean really..no family pictures on any wall or cute little decorations in the kid's rooms, etc? It all looks so sad and sterile. Where is the life?
7. I am so sad for Alexis being banished to the basement and not being part of the little girl group. It's just wrong the other 2 get to share a room alone! I don't care what that kid supposedly did. It's pathetic.
8. She fools no one pretending to care about the boys and the rest of them (holding them up to the window, etc, when we could hear her a few minutes earlier rudely tell a boy "move out of the way" or something like that while she held a girl up). She's always just holding precious Hannah anyway..in every scene.
9. My family is disgusted with this show and ask why I watch those horrible people. And I have no idea why I do!

Anonymous said...

"Re:Anon. So if I were to sell drugs and then donate the money to
Ronald McDonald House that would be ok? It would be an improvement, right? Not. I would still be ruining lives, the people who I sell the drugs to and their families. It is not right for them to donate money they received from exploiting their children. Even though it is going towards a good cause. Their using bad money to do good deeds."

I hardly think this is a fair comparison. We cant change what they are doing to their children. Yes, it is wrong. However, I do think it is an improvement that they are giving the money to charity versus keeping it. I think we can all agree on that. They have money in the bank that they chose to donate versus spending on something for their own enjoyment. In the past they would have kept it for themselves, I hardly think this is a bad thing.

Anonymous said...

Are we just hearing things? Can someone please rewatch it and let us know what you hear?

I'm rewatching the show right now to see if that's what he said and it sounded like "we'll have a baby soon, too" but it was mumbled.

Anonymous said...

IFWH:

I noticed that too that the staff did not seem happy to see them. The doctor looked rather annoyed. Usually if the nurses really like you they will go all out. I think the people know too much about this family and the people of PA seem done with them.
Anyone notice how Maddy snatched her head away from the PR lady. The lady stroked Maddy's hair and Maddy turned around and gave her a dirty look and snatched her head away from the lady. Poor Maddy.

Paula said...

I'm sure the doctor WAS perturbed. That operating room had to be closed and re-sterilized all over again. The tups were touching everything in the operating room. I am totally surprised that the Gosselin's and their crew were even allowed in the operating room. From the look of the doctor's reaction, he was certainly unaware it was happening.

Anonymous said...

My child only spent 3 weeks in NICU and when we went back a couple times on visits the people were a lot more welcoming and friendly toward us. I got kind of a bad vibe from some of the people there when KON visited, like they really didn't care to see them again! The only one really nice to them was the older nurse and you can tell she is just the type who loves babies period and probably has no love for those two either. The one rocking the baby had a look like "just get out already"!

K.C. said...

8:25 PM
Barbara said...
"Kristee, I thought I heard the same thing you did about having a new baby, but I thought maybe it was just me thinking about that so much. Because the shirt she was wearing on the couch, I swear, made her look pregnant. And the top she was wearing while visiting the hospital was loose and I began to think maybe they were going to announce she was pregnant at the end of the show."

_____________________________

I also questioned another comment Kate made about the smell of the hospital. I'm sure Kate probably meant to speak in the past tense and it just came out wrong but...When they were talking about the way the hospital smelled when they walked in. They both agreed that it brought back memories. Jon said it smelled exactly the same that day as it did 4 years ago. Kate mentioned how she also noticed it but just attributed it to being pregnant. Then they went on and on about what kind of smell it was--just smells unique, not a bad smell, etc, etc, etc.

Nonny said...

I noticed to things tonight
1) They seem to be doing most of the recent episodes away from the house . Next week it's camping in the yard. I wonder what's up with that.
2) Kate mentioned her mom a few times in this episode. I haven't heard her mention her so often before. Hopefully they are mending fences.

Anonymous said...

I listened extremely closely when the show was on again at 11 pm. When one of the tups says, "I want to hold a baby," Jon replies, "We're going to have a baby soon." Maybe they will adopt to keep the show "interesting" and build up the "family business." Wouldn't another biological child put a strain on Kate's uterus? Albeit it certainly is an "amazing" one!

Anonymous said...

"4. Still telling boys they are not allowed in girl's rooms. What a shame."

I think it is a rule that the girls can not go into the boys room either. I dont see anything wrong with this. It allows everyone to have somewhat of their own space. When I was little, my little brother wasnt allowed in my room and vice versa.

Also, Alexis sleeps in the basement because she was getting up in the middle of the night and waking up all of the other kids. If it were my child, I would switch their room to.

Anonymous said...

"5. As for the pregnancy speculation, I could have sworn she said when she walked into the hospital that "being pregnant the smell makes her sick" and it didn't sound like she was flashing back to when she WAS pregnant. AND she looks pregnant in all her tops on the show now."

Let's hope not! I don't think the country can afford another KON pregnancy!

Judy said...

I'm watching it right now too (West Coast).
It's hard for me to watch it because my oldest son was born at 26 weeks and we spent 3 and a half months in the hospital with him. It was awful. The NICU brings back so many memories for me :(

The one thing that I was really glad to hear Kate admit is that she walked away with 6 healthy babies while many other parents walked away with no babies.

We saw so many parents lose their babies when we were in the NICU. It was a heart wrenching life altering experience.

As far as Kate being pregnant. She certainly doesnt look "well" in this interview. She looks like she feels sick.

Can anyone on the inside chime in on this? Anyone know if this is even a possibility?

I so badly want to see Jon and Kate reach out to their family and apologize to Jodi and everyone for letting fame take over. I think I could really like and respect Kate if they could just take a step back and realize what they're doing :(

Holly said...

I heard the baby comment from Jon as well; my own kids were being a bit loud so it's possible I misheard, but I doubt so many of us misheard!

Kate has been looking more ragged, sometimes pudgy & she is CERTAINLY more weepy...it honestly wouldn't surprise me at all if she were pregnant. It would, however, scare the bejeepers out of me.

Anonymous said...

I know everyone is very impressed with the donation, but think about it. If you did not care about negative commentsor e-mails like she says on her web site. Why film the donation? Why could you not just have donated out of the goodness of your heart anonymously,
or just mailed or hand deliverd a check, filming it just ruins it for me. The only good thing is RMH got money, the good thing is not who it came from. In my mind there is a difference in donating from your heart compared to donated to make youself look better.

Anonymous said...

I don't understand why people are questioning the blue booties on the camera man's feet.

I don't let ANYONE wear shoes in my house. I have a basket of slippers/socks etc waiting for people who don't want to remove their shoes.

K.C. said...

"I had to jump on here and carefully read through all the comments to see if anyone else heard what I heard! I watched that part 3 times...As they are walking away from the doorway, one of the kids seemed to say something to the effect that they would have a baby soon and then Jon (from what it sounded like) agreed with them. Are we just hearing things? Can someone please rewatch it and let us know what you hear?"

OK, I just watched that part again. It's 34 mins. into the show and yes, as they are leaving either Alexis or Leah, (not sure?), looks up at Kate and says either "We're gonna have a baby soon" or You're gonna have a baby soon". Kate is looking at the lady in the room and saying bye and by the time she looks down give the girl tup her attention Jon has answered with "We're going to have a baby ____ (too?)". I can't make out anything past that because the scene/sound was cut. I even put my ear up to the speakers and turned the volume up just to make sure. I am POSITIVE I heard it. If anyone else has this too please check. Thanks, I need to go throw up now...

Anonymous said...

I am so glad other people heard the "we're getting a baby" comment, I thought I had to be hearing things. I heard it the first time it aired, but thought I had to be wrong so I recorded the second airing to check. I watched that scene 4 times, and that was what I heard. One of the kids saying that they were getting a baby and Jon mumbling back something about getting a baby. Thanks for letting me know I am not crazy!

Anonymous said...

"I know everyone is very impressed with the donation, but think about it. If you did not care about negative commentsor e-mails like she says on her web site. Why film the donation? Why could you not just have donated out of the goodness of your heart anonymously,
or just mailed or hand deliverd a check, filming it just ruins it for me. The only good thing is RMH got money, the good thing is not who it came from. In my mind there is a difference in donating from your heart compared to donated to make youself look better."



They probably filmed the donation after reading sites like this that say they dont donate any of there money. Probably to prove a point. If you heard someone talking about you and saying things that you knew werent true, wouldnt you do the same thing to set the record straight?

Anonymous said...

As far as the donations goes.
I agree with one of the bloggers that Kon is "welfare trash." I think that Kon needs to stop asking for handouts from others, and stand on their on two feet.
They are acting like Robinhood in some respects.
They are robbing the rich (ie: the church people, sponsors) to give to the poor RMcDonald house.

Gwon said...

Good call on the Matthew Sweet song earlier. That's a great tune.

Also, does Kate wear colored contacts? In the pix when she's holding the tups, her eyes look dark brown. In the interview chair, they're green/blue.

Curious.

K.C. said...

anon said..."They have money in the bank that they chose to donate versus spending on something for their own enjoyment. In the past they would have kept it for themselves, I hardly think this is a bad thing."

Per Julie, EVERY time you see a monitary exchange on this show, whether it's in the form of a credit card, check or cash, on this show is not their money. For example, Julie specifically said that the whole discussion between J&K "having to save money to buy Kate's new clothes" at Banana Republic was a LIE. Same with the cow purchase and the beds. I completely believe this donation to RMcDH was written and paid for by the producer(s) just like the Christmas cookies were. Around Christmas, Jen thought the viewers needed to see Jon & Kate give back to the people who help them all year by baking and delivering cookies, (and even then Kate refused to give Jodi a lousy cookie).

Anonymous said...

This episode would have made a lovely series finale Pt. 1, I thought. Four years later, bringing the 'tups back to the place they were born. In part 2, the family moves to NC, bye by PA!

... and scene.

"Its just, everyone knows us now, and there's a lot of stress that goes with that." - Jon

Well, you know what? After those 'tups were safely home and growing, you'd have faded from the spotlight if you'd not signed up for this TV stuff. I don't have a lot of sympathy to people who bring trouble onto themselves.

K.C. said...

4. "Still telling boys they are not allowed in girl's rooms. What a shame."

How many bedrooms were in that timeshare condo? Wasn't it just a 2 bedroom? So where were the little boys supposed to sleep? On the couch in the living room? Did I miss something?

_______________________________

"They probably filmed the donation after reading sites like this that say they dont donate any of there money. Probably to prove a point. If you heard someone talking about you and saying things that you knew werent true, wouldnt you do the same thing to set the record straight?"

I might have thought that too if Kate hadn't blown that theory herself. Kate mentioned this was the first time they've made a donation. She even said something about how "it only took us 4 years".

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
"I know everyone is very impressed with the donation, but think about it. If you did not care about negative commentsor e-mails like she says on her web site. Why film the donation? Why could you not just have donated out of the goodness of your heart anonymously,
or just mailed or hand deliverd a check, filming it just ruins it for me. The only good thing is RMH got money, the good thing is not who it came from. In my mind there is a difference in donating from your heart compared to donated to make youself look better."



They probably filmed the donation after reading sites like this that say they dont donate any of there money. Probably to prove a point. If you heard someone talking about you and saying things that you knew werent true, wouldnt you do the same thing to set the record straight?

9/01/2008 10:02 PM

So, I take it you think they have been donating money all along. If I did not care what people thought as Kate says, I would not film it. As far as donating all along it wasn't long ago there were asking for doantion for themselves.

Anonymous said...

I give money to 4 charities a month but the only people that know about it is me ,my tax preparer and the IRS. But I guess I do not have a reputation to repair.

Jakob'sMommy said...

I have to say, this had to be such a boring day for all of these kids. The twins looked bored out of their minds. Maddy said a few times she wanted to leave....and who can blame her? Once they got to the condo they did nothing but run around and jump on furniture. That had to be exciting!! They didn't even have that many toys with them.

We have a time share and they aren't all expensive. We own in Orlando and honestly our fees are not that bad.

Serena said...

If you heard someone talking about you and saying things that you knew werent true, wouldnt you do the same thing to set the record straight?

That, ladies and gentlemen, is a perfect example of a straw man argument.

Here's a different way to ask the question:

"If you heard someone talking about you and saying things that you knew WERE true, wouldn't you stage an action to make it look like you've disproved it?"

Anonymous said...

Totally poor judgement to bring all the kids and film crew through the NICU. Been there, survived it with my own. My daughter was kept out from seeing her baby sibling bc of the health risk to all the babies. We understood. This episode was self serving for Kate. And no point at all for Kate to bring up how "guilty they felt" because all 6 of her babies were "healthy and doing what they were supposed to be doing" while others around them who only had 1 baby would lose them. No point. Some say they witnessed a softer side of Kate from this episode. No, the aldagador tears got to you!

Anonymous said...

Did anyone notice Kate playing with her wedding ring and band a lot during the couch sessions. Like every single time they showed them on the couch she was playing with them. It kind of bothered me a lot with that fidgeting.
Over the past two seasons, Katie has been developing some strange tics. She strokes her hair and neck a lot and fiddles with her earrings. In tonight's episode, she was scratching her arm a lot and picking at her face. (These are in addition to the peculiar way she has always clasped her hands.) I wonder if the stress of having to behave like a decent person is getting overwhelming.

Oh, and have I reached the depths of pickiness when I say that the physical size of the check looked rather large for one from a normal checkbook?

graksgirl said...

Just an FYI...I went to the hospital website and found the email address to send your comments to:

cpalmer@hmc.psu.edu

They actually advertise on their community list that they were visiting and show dates/times

Unbelievable!

Sera said...

I have to say the past few eps in the couch interviews (especially when she is wearing that green tee) I thought Kate looked pudgy around the middle, but I never attributed it to her being pregnant. Holy cow...I don't even know what to say isfshe is...that is just...appalling!

Anonymous said...

It has always seemed to me that Jon was the kinder,more gentle parent between the two.

That might be the case.But after viewing this episode and seeing Kate truly show emotion without receiving any kind of comfort from her husband..he could have just put his arm behind her for goodness sakes.

I am not a Kate fan but I really felt for her in that one moment.

R

nettey said...

Count me on the side of being appalled at visiting the NICU. My son was there for 2 weeks (born at 33 weeks). The restrictions on the NICU are there to protect the babies. No child should be admitted to visit. I would have been livid if a family of 10 and camera crew were there while I had a sick baby. Shame on all of them!!

It did make me so sad remembering that time of our lives. We were so fortunate to leave with a healthy baby but many of those parents lost their precious angels.

Serena said...

But after viewing this episode and seeing Kate truly show emotion without receiving any kind of comfort from her husband..he could have just put his arm behind her for goodness sakes.

I think he should have followed Kate's example of how to respond to someone else's misery -- yell at her and make her sleep on the laundry room floor.

Anonymous said...

I would imagine it is very hard to show comfort to someone that is constantly belittling you. I am sure when Jon sits on that couch he is just contemplating what Kate is going to do or say to him. Let us be honest she doesn't cut him any slack during those interveiws.

Anonymous said...

I hate to add to the speculation, but I just viewed the rerun (2nd airing) of Labor Day and Yes, I did catch the baby comment from I am pretty sure was Leah (she has shorter hair than Alexis), but she and Alexis both say one after another, "we're gonna have a baby," and Jon says "We're gonna have a baby too." That's what it sounded like to me, too. And if you watch the couch scenes, Kate's arm is across her middle in just about every scene, hiding what appears to be a baby bump under the tight green tee. I feel vomitous ish.

mlou said...

I just tried to email Hershey Medical Center from the address given above. My email was sent back. Is there any other way of getting in contact with someone specifically?

Anonymous said...

It has been said how everything seems scripted and forced by production. I would never wish this on anyone but, as I have been watching the hurricane coverage on tv I was thinking that if the family lived on the gulf coast that production would revel in an episode covering the family evacuating.

sabrinasmom said...

I catch the show when I can - I thought the kids were waking up from a nap when this episode started? The voice overs were discussing naps. When they started to get loud - why did Kate say we should have done this after nap. Can anyone clarify?

I also heard the "we're gonna have a baby too."

pokie said...

Whether the RMcDH check came from the Gosselins, TLC, or Figure 8, doesn't matter to me, the point is the donation was made and will help many families in the future. I think by making the donation on camera it will bring in more donations because fans of the show will see the Gosselins donating and will most likely consider donating to this cause, also. After all, like them or not, the Gosselins have celebrity power to help charities. Whether their intentions were altruistic or self-serving, the donation was made. I personally was not offended by this.

Kristee said...

~~~But after viewing this episode and seeing Kate truly show emotion without receiving any kind of comfort from her husband..he could have just put his arm behind her for goodness sakes.

I was wondering why Jon wouldn't have shown some compassion, anything. A hug, arm round her shoulders, pat on the leg. My husband is awesome when I'm upset....it's kinda sad to see their marriage suffering so much. That said, it's still not as much as the children are suffering.

Kristee said...

I really think Kate "may" be pregnant. I re~watched the part where she was talking about the smell of the hospital, and she clearly does not say it in past tense. All of this is imo only...but if she is pregnant the joke is on all of us.

pennmommy said...

IIRC, the condo/time share was donated by someone during the interim between RMH and home. The tups were discharged at different times and their house was quite a drive from Hershey. The drive back-and-forth WITH tups would've been too much for the tups. Also, they wanted to stay close to Hershey in case one of the tups who'd came home needed to be readmited. If they'd have went back home, they'd have preemies in two different hospitals. Having been in that time share during this period, I was upset that, though she mentioned the volunteers, she didn't thank them. And, the crap about waking up three times a night or not sleeping was crap. The pack-n-plays weren't in the bedroom all the time and they had night nurses to help.

Her pointed remark about making the bottles made me laugh because she would use that excuse to get out of changing a poopy kid. I laughed when she told Jon to go wipe one of the boys after pooping because it was like nothing had changed in four years. Peace.

Molly said...

Regarding the check being given to the Ronald McDonald House - I thought they lived like 15 minutes away from Hershey? Why did it take them 4 years to give them a check?

meghan said...

I just listened to the part about the baby and I am 110% sure that Jon said "We're going to have a baby too."

I think Jon is a really good parent, but he's just kind of given up on having a real voice in the relationship (though lately he's really been sticking up for himself, hasnt' he?) but I think he'll do fine with another baby. It's Kate who will bitch and moan and try to get more freebies and cash out of it.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Did anyone notice Kate playing with her wedding ring and band a lot during the couch sessions. Like every single time they showed them on the couch she was playing with them. It kind of bothered me a lot with that fidgeting.
Over the past two seasons, Katie has been developing some strange tics. She strokes her hair and neck a lot and fiddles with her earrings. In tonight's episode, she was scratching her arm a lot and picking at her face. (These are in addition to the peculiar way she has always clasped her hands.) I wonder if the stress of having to behave like a decent person is getting overwhelming.

Oh, and have I reached the depths of pickiness when I say that the physical size of the check looked rather large for one from a normal checkbook?

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And she also stares down at her feet/ankle when she's talking on the couch interviews. I've noticed the scratching the back of her head too.

Anonymous said...

I also noticed the camera man wearing the shoe covers in the house. Kate has been making him wear them all along.

Interesting how she insists on "no shoes" in her house, yet when they were looking at the $1.4 million dollar horse ranch in VA Kon and their kids didn't remove their shoes in that house. That's inconsiderate and rude. She cares about HER house but not someone else's.

pullthegosselinplug said...

Ultimately, the Hershey Medical Center itself should be ashamed for allowing the Gosselin 10 to tramp through that NICU.
As I said previously, I live 10 minutes from Hershey Med and they certainly have the clout to say NO to TLC, Jon and Kate and Figure8.
I'm thinking that the PR department set the whole thing up (the lady that met them there and sort of conducted their tour) - that is probably why the doctors and nurses did not seem thrilled to have them there.
Now that I think about it, I cannot fathom that anyone in charge allowed this to happen knowing it would go down like that.
Does anyone think that maybe there were rules laid down that simply were not followed on the actual day?
I mean, this is a very well-respected, prestigious hospital associated with Penn State University.
I hope there is some kind of public outrage over this and not just on this board.

Anonymous said...

Okay, nobody has mentioned this... Kate is at counter in timeshare and talking about how Cara and Mady spent much of that time at Grandmom's home. The girls spent weeks at Grandmom's home. Either Mady or Cara are sitting in a chair and as the scene fades out you hear Mady or Cara say something like "how come.... Grandmom......" scene ends. Poor Grandmom - you know Kate's parents and church were responsible for renovating their first home and getting it ready for the babies to come home.... Guess their contributions aren't BIG enough for Kate's ego. P.S. my guess is they adopt a poor unfortunate Korean child who will be instantly Katinized overnight.

Anonymous said...

I suppose if Kate is pregnant it would disprove the theory that she and Jon have no relationship.

Anonymous said...

Did I hear correctly when they were in the condo and the kids stunk up the bathroom; Kate actually told Jon to "go wipe"?

A. THEY'RE FOUR YEARS OLD! They can wipe!

B. YOU go wipe, Kate, instead of handing out orders!

Anonymous said...

Someone above said, "But when I saw Kate crying tonight I saw glimpses of someone maybe who knows they dug themself into a huge grave and now just doesn't know how to get out."

Uh, stop doing the show?

Anonymous said...

I heard the "Grandmom" comment! Is Mady wondering what happened to her Grandmom??? Wonder what they told the girls - Grandmom died... Grandmom can't send us on vacations... Grandmom doesn't bow down to Mommy Dearest.....

Anonymous said...

If Kon do add to their family, and I shudder at the thought, what will they re-name the show?

Anonymous said...

OK, help me here. They show some of the tups being awakened from their naps so they could go to the NICU. The calendar told that the event was at 3pm. Then why, when some were getting loud or acting up in the NICU did Kate say something about in the future doing these things "after nap"?
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I didn't get this either! It WAS "after the nap," wasn't it? Am I going crazy?

babyaby said...

The first phrase that came to my mind was "damage control" after watching this episode. Two questions continue to stick out in my mind. One, was the comment her mother apparently made about Kate always wanting twins and secondly is the whole thing about the fertility treatments. I have PCOS, and Kate, really doesn;t exhibit any outward signs of someone who has it. Being about to get such strong treatments at such a young age and so close together just seems quite strange to me, especially when there are less aggressive avenues for someone with "mild" PCOS, I just don;t get it. I am so tired of hearing the "life was so much easier then..." comment. How are the "little kids" going to feel when they watch these tapes as the get older and hear their mother constantly repeating this phrase? Also, I think Kate referring to her mother so much was another form of damage control, to give the viewers the notion that there was a "normal" relationship there at some point. Her father is a minister at a church at the end of JK8's street, the church is visible from their house...its all so strange.

Sara said...

YES, everyone heard that right...one of the boys said "You know, we're going to have a baby too." (as if he was telling Cathy, the woman holding the newborn, and Jon repeats "We're going to have a baby too." THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE A BABY. The woman has said over and over that one mother cannot handle that many kids, but apparently she still wants to know what it's like to have just ONE baby!

Also, she DOES say, not once, but TWICE, about them not taking naps. The first time she said to a nurse or the hospital PR person "We did this instead of naps", and later she said "Next time let's do this after nap." Why bother showing them waking up from naps? Perhaps she was talking about the boys, because we never did see them waking up. But do the boys take naps later than the girls, and they had skipped their naptime? Who knows.

But really, ANOTHER BABY?? Will any adoption agency in their right mind allow that to happen? Why not just throw a baby bunny in with some hungry lions while you're at it!

Lonnyswife said...

Are you sure about Jon's response to girl tups baby question?
I don't have the DVR thingy but I heard it as:
I want a baby or I want to hold a baby
And Jon, in a blow off sort of way said something like, you'll have a baby or you'll hold a baby

As a parent of 5 I will admit there were times I answered one of their questions in a sort of blow off type way: ie. I was trying to listen to another conversation, one of them asked something, and as long as it didn't involve a sibling and blood, I would agree with them. At that age, retention isn't what it is with Mady and Cara. And it wouldn't be uncommon for a little girl, especially one who tends to be a little mother type to want to hold a baby. These poor kids have never even been around other babies all that much, maybe a couple at church. My two cents!

Lonnyswife said...

I believe the children acting up and Kate saying they needed naps is her way of not dealing with the problem at hand, which is, inappropriate behavior in certain situations. It happened at the timeshare/condo where there would be other owners/guests in residence. The outbursts should be handled immediately and not brushed off or blamed on lack of sleep or low blood sugar.

Anonymous said...

If Kon do add to their family, and I shudder at the thought, what will they re-name the show?

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Like someone else posted on another thread: "Jon & Swine and The Working Nine!"

Anonymous said...

"...that is probably why the doctors and nurses did not seem thrilled to have them there.
Now that I think about it, I cannot fathom that anyone in charge allowed this to happen knowing it would go down like that." by Pullthegosselinplug

Hospitals are funny places. I worked at one for 10 years and if it means they will get money they will do anything, including allowing psudo-celebrities in areas where they don't belong, if it gives them press coverage. The PR departments at Hospitals are filled with Barracudas who circle around looking for any opportunity to either get money for the facility or positive press coverage. Hospitals are businesses nowadays, not places to heal the sick. So any opportunity that presents itself, like the free publicity that the Gosselins brought that day, will be welcomed by the Administrative staff. Medical and support staff could care less. They just want to do their jobs.

Sara said...

To follow up my previous post, I listened to it again, and it was a girl tup (not a boy) that said they were going to have a baby too, but right before that, if you listen VERY CAREFULLY, you can hear that another one of the tups said it right before that. So not once, not twice, but THREE TIMES they said it. There's no way it can be mistaken when you have three opportunities to hear it.

Anonymous said...

I delivered both of my children at Hershey Medical Center, and had a room exactly like the one shown in this episode. Although my kids weren't in the NICU, there were still restrictions on visitation. When my daughter was born my sister brought her young daughters to visit us. The nurses promptly came in to tell us young children, except for siblings, were not permitted on the floor. I'm appalled that those kids were allowed to walk through that NICU! I think that HMC Public Relations person that took them around is going to be busy doing damage control on behalf of the hospital, that is if she still has her job!

Christine said...

I've thought this for awhile - I don't think she's pregnant but I do think they're going to adopt. Someone else suggested this awhile back on another thread and someone responded that they have too many kids, they won't be approved. But I disagree. I know of circumstances where people have more than 8 kids and have successfully adopted.

I think they'll go to Korea to adopt. It ties in with her statement on their website about traveling to retrace Jon's roots. They're probably just in the planning stages of that trip now, but adopting takes months, so as soon as that all gets finalized, you'll see all this materialize.

Anonymous said...

I emailed the Gosselins regarding my thoughts on their kids traipsing through the NICU.

evileye said...

Although I think it was kind to donate to RMH, they did state that it took 4 years due to their finances.

After hearing about yard sales with barely used or new donated gifts, they could have easily passed those things on for gratitude as well. It would not have cost them a dime either.

However it was still nice to see them donating.

Anonymous said...

To follow up my previous post, I listened to it again, and it was a girl tup (not a boy) that said they were going to have a baby too, but right before that, if you listen VERY CAREFULLY, you can hear that another one of the tups said it right before that. So not once, not twice, but THREE TIMES they said it. There's no way it can be mistaken when you have three opportunities to hear it.

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But why would they let that leak out? Why not edit something like that out of the show?

Stevie said...

I just rewatched the scene about the baby. It was Alexis that said, "We're going to have a baby too" and Jon says, "Yes we're going to have a baby too." Who knows if he was just trying to shut the kid up and get out of there or reinforce whatever is happening behind the scenes with adopting or her being pregnant. I just find it odd that they wouldn't edit that scene out if it wasn't true. They know the backlash on this show is growing everyday, leaking something like this out is only obvious to one thing - Kon keeping this gravy train going for as long as they can - and at any cost to the kids well-being and privacy. I'm sure Mady is going to be THRILLED with another baby in the house and less attention on her once again. Sad.

Anonymous said...

Yes, I heard the, "we'll have a baby" comment, too.

And I re-watched the part where they're discussing the hospital smell and Kate clearly says something like, "It's not a bad smell...normally. Just me being pregnant....."

So, yeah. Good luck with that.

And Mady totally busts them about the naps in the hospital. "We had naps!" Hahaha. Kate says, "Welllll....sort of ish."

Mady rocks. She is acting out all over the place trying to make her parents look like the people she knows them to be.

If the stress of the show is enough to bring Kate to tears, what does she think it's doing to her children?

Sara said...

Kate's EXACT words when she talked about the smell while walking into the hospital were: "It's not a bad smell NORMALLY, but to ME, being pregnant, the smell- it hit me and I was like (she gasps)."

To me, this does not sound like she was talking about her pregnancy with the tups. It sounded like she was referring to that very moment when they returned to the hospital, and it was the same feeling she had when she was pregnant there before.

This, coupled with the obvious remarks about "We're gonna have a baby too", is basically them putting the information out there, very slowly, that Kate's pregnant. They know that if they suddenly announce it, it's going to strike people with shock. I think they're trying to be very casual about it to minimize the backlash from the people who have tried to help them out with the 8 kids they already have.

funkycatt said...

It seems they could have named this episode "Standing around in hallways with awkward medical staff."

It looked to me like they never got anywhere near the babies in the NICU, looked more like they were standing in a hallway or perhaps walkway, right in front of the NICU. When my neice was born, she was in the NICU due to being 6 weeks early. I had to scrub up to go in and see her. Later I was looking at my brand new neice through a window, and the nurse kept trying to kick me out. (Not even in the NICU, in the hallway right in front).

Anyway, I think they cut out too much of what happens before and after what they show us. To the point that episodes are starting to make sense. They also used to explain previous scenes on the couch and now they are just repeating everything they said in the scene.

I actaully took this episode at face value. I thought it was nice that they finally paid back their stay at Ronald McDonald HOuse. I think they should request that all future donations go to RMH or the March of Dimes.

Ravello said...

KONS truly desperate to keep a buzz going if they plan to adopt a kid.

Maybe she considers she only has 5 kids, the girls, the 3 boys don't count. Maybe she is going for a Korean girl baby. That would be great PR for TLC and the sponsors. God help all the kids.

Child Protective agency should step in to stop this. What court or social worker could sign off on this mess?

Anonymous said...

When Kate was leaving one of the areas of the hospital with that attendant, she turns to her and says, "We decided to do this instead of naps, can't you tell?"

Nadia said...

My boys were in the NICU of three different hospitals (different levels of care and they were trying to move them closer to home). My older son (18 months old when my twins were born) was aloud to come in and see his tiny brothers only once, for about 5 mins right after I had been air vac'ed in. The only reason that happened was because we were being transfired to a smaller hospital and my boys happened to be the only babies in the NICU at that time. It was so wonderful. But I agree with everyone that there is NO WAY that 8 kids should have been let in...

My boys were 10 weeks old when they got to leave the NICU, it was a wonderful day, one of the best days of my life. But then just after the 24 hour mark of them being home they had some serious complcations and had to go back to the hospital. But because they had been home, they could not go into the NICU with the doctors and nurses who knew them and loved them, they had to go into ped's where the nurse to baby numbers are not what they should be. So my boys could not go in after 24 hours but J$K can walk a whole broad of germy 4 year olds through. GRRRRR!

I did not catch the comment on the baby, my own kids were yelling too loud at that point (sigh it was one of those days and I would not change it for the world) but that would be so horable. Would there not be huge risks for that baby having a pregancy after a tummy tuck. I dont know a whole lot about it, but I am going to do a little digging.

Sara said...

RE: "But why would they let that leak out? Why not edit something like that out of the show?"

I think it was INTENTIONALLY left in there. It's their way of slowly warming people up to it. They are going to act like it's no big shock and they're happier than ever, and a lot of people are going to be all oohh and ahh and congratulations. We've all said since the tups turned 3, how are they going to keep this going when the kids get older and when they start school? Well, they thought about that too. First of all, when they start to get older, book a million trips to shoot episodes, and then HEY, have another baby so we can see the drama of dealing with 2 plus 6 plus a newborn! Even if it infuriates people, ratings- whether they're good or bad, always generate money in the long run.

moi said...

"And I re-watched the part where they're discussing the hospital smell and Kate clearly says something like, "It's not a bad smell...normally. Just me being pregnant....."

What I heard her saying was, when they revisited the hospital, the smell brought the memory of being there back to her. "Not that it's a bad smell, but me being pregnant [at the time, back then, I thought it was a distictive smell]."

I didn't hear it as, she's pregnant NOW.

I also didn't hear the kids say they were going to have a baby soon; very interesting. I still think Kate was referring to how the smell hit her back then, when she was describing the smell of the hospital.

K.C. said...

pokie said...
"Whether the RMcDH check came from the Gosselins, TLC, or Figure 8, doesn't matter to me, the point is the donation was made and will help many families in the future. I think by making the donation on camera it will bring in more donations because fans of the show will see the Gosselins donating and will most likely consider donating to this cause, also. After all, like them or not, the Gosselins have celebrity power to help charities. Whether their intentions were altruistic or self-serving, the donation was made. I personally was not offended by this."

IMO this just proves again that nothing is sacred to KON, not their religion, not the welfare of their children and not the safety of others in the NICU. If Jon and Kate were who they claim to be then doing charitable deeds publicly, in order to be 'seen' would literally go against their faith. ESPECIALLY if they did it to negate rumors, therefore ensuring their gravy train will roll on. A previous poster wrote something like, (paraphrase), 'Haven't J&K ever heard that you are not supposed to serve two masters?, (God vs. Money)'. To this I say...Don't worry, Jon and Kate are not serving two masters. They are serving only one--The Almighty Dollar.

Anonymous said...

Boring episode.
Total damage control.

If the tups wanted to know where they came from, why didn't Kon introduce them to their grandparents ???

pullthegosselinplug said...

I think the thing with the naps is a case of Jon and Kate not getting their "stories" straight.
Jon did not have a chance to tell Kate that he already informed us on camera that they had slept for 2 hours prior to leaving the house, so she should pull another excuse for the behaviour out of her bag.
I also think Jon used the wrong word, AGAIN (bad Jon), on the couch when he said there is so much stress because now everyone knows us - it should be everyone is ON TO us.

Anonymous said...

Did anyone notice Jon's demeaner during the couch interview? He looked really mad, not the usual zoned out look when he's talking gets cut off, but he had a stoney stare. If they do have another baby, that will show that they probably didn't need the fertility treatments. That will ruin their whole "poor us ending up with six babies."

Anonymous said...

If Kate is pregnant-- and the producers need to change the name then I vote for "Krazy Kate and Side Show Jon exploite the Gaggle of Gossleins" hour. :(

Christine said...

I found it telling that Kate broke down on the couch and started crying and they were talking about the stress of where they are now and how they didn't have that stress before the tups were born.

IMO the stress they're feeling but not digging down deep and talking about is this show. The pressures with fame and money. With people who they once considered family and friends who Kate has driven away and being on a popular TV show has magnified her behavior 100 times and they're aware of all the negativity but aren't addressing it. It's all building up and that's what you saw on the couch.

And what's the worse thing out of all of this is? The children are a product of their environment. What the cameras aren't recording the kids are. They're in that house when the cameras are not. They're absorbing all this stress and pressure and anger and emotional rollercoasters their parents are going through and feeling. And I'll be damned if this doesn't affect the kids. IT IS AND DOES! And will moreso each and everyday this circus show continues.

WAKE UP JON AND KATE. WHAT YOU ARE FEELING ON THAT COUCH IN EMOTIONS YOUR KIDS ARE FEELING 10 TIMES MORE. Except they can't express themselves. But rest assured, you'll be seeing the results of this show in their behaviors in about 5-10 years. By then it will be too late to do anything about it. And what you'll see won't be a good thing either.

End this sad facade now. For everyone involved. Please!

K.C. said...

"If the stress of the show is enough to bring Kate to tears, what does she think it's doing to her children?"

If she really is pregnant then that would explain the crying and the swollen puffy eyes. She really did look haggard. If she's not pregnant it could be anything, including prescription meds IMO. Almost all Rx have side effects. That's what Kate's behavior reminds me of. IMO it would explain the 'itchy, scratchy, fidgety' thing as well as the look of exhaustion.

K.C. said...

Anon said..."And Mady totally busts them about the naps in the hospital. "We had naps!" Hahaha. Kate says, "Welllll....sort of ish.""


I heard that that too, only I heard something slightly different. I thought it was funny at the time because of the comments on GWOP regarding 4 year olds who still take naps. I even watched that part again, just to make sure.

Kate, (to hospital's PR lady): "We did this today instead of nap time. Can you tell?"

Hospital's PR lady: "They take naps?!"

Kate: "Well, sort-of-ish."

Hugabug said...

But after viewing this episode and seeing Kate truly show emotion without receiving any kind of comfort from her husband..he could have just put his arm behind her for goodness sakes.


If you notice earlier when they were in the delivery room and Kate tears up as she starts to explain the preparations for the delivery Jon rolls his eyes and moves out of camera range, (or maybe the director moved the camera off him). I think that the tears were fake in the delivery room, but real at the end. If Kate can cry on cue, Jon may not be very attuned to comforting her. Maybe he isn't really wired to offer emotional support in general. On the other hand there was a lot of eye rolling on Jon's part and interrupting on Kate's part during the interviews. Neither one was paying attention to the other nor respecting the other.

I would really like to see Jon and Kate interviewed separately. It would be interesting to get the he said/she said viewpoints and to hear what each has to say without the interruptions and body language put downs.

I still think that they have a new interview chair that forces Jon and Kate to sit closer together. I don't see reruns though nor do I tape it so I could be wrong.

Anonymous said...

It looks like Kon has lost the hour time slot for the show at 11:00 am. Only on a half an hour now and being replaced at 11:30 with "Little people, Big world"

Hmmmmmmm

Megan said...

Ok, so I am going to ignore my strong hatred for this hour long episode that stole a chunk of my life away that could have been spent daydreaming about mosquitos and focus on the good! How adorable was Aiden in this episode with his little dance in the condo anf his pitiful angry face when he was scolded by jon! And let's not forget his losing battle against the evil Jabberwocky when he tried to defeat it with kindess and say it was pretty, only to be shot down! Glad to see more attention with the adorable boys even if it was all staged! But quick question, didn't Kon mention the kids had never visited the NICU? I am watching twins turn 6 now and they are at a NICU reunion.

Barbara said...

The comment Mady made when Kate said that she and Cara stayed with "Grandmom" while she was in the hospital was, "Why did we go to Grandmom's?"

Tracey said...

Here's a thought...maybe J&K are cancelling their speaking engagements because Kate really is pregnant. It would make a lot of sense...

Anonymous said...

if kate is really pregnant again.... she is going to need another tummy tuck.

i would think it would be really risky to get pregnant again after a pregnancy with that many multiples. risk of abruption?

Anonymous said...

RE: The smell of the hospital.

I have six children, (they arrived one at a time though) We had 2 of them do an extended stay in the NICU. I can say that walking into the hospital and getting that scent come rushing up at me, does really bring back not only vivid memories, but getting a little sick to my stomach.
My mouth waters up like you do before you vomit. I threw up a LOT during pregnancy and labor and just the smell reminds me of all that vomit and the labor.

I think scent is one of your most powerful memory triggers so that might have well been what she was desperately trying to spit out.

I don't think she is pregnant, I think she is too vain to ruin her tummy tuck. i DO really think they will be adopting a baby. Lord help it.

Anonymous said...

To adopt from Korea they can only have no more than four children currently in the home.

I really hope that they are not adopting. I think that this family especially should not adopt. No way in hell do they have the emotional capacity to parent a child who has been adopted.

This really worries me. I hope they aren't pregnant, I hope they can't adopt. I know that there are some agencies who will approve people just because the people threw a lot of money at them, but realistically no good social worker would be able to sleep at night if she/he approved them to adopt.

I know I wouldn't be able to sleep at night, even if they gave a million dollars, I would NOT approve them to adopt.

Angela said...

Does anyone know when this episode was filmed in relationship to the National Enquirer article?

Anonymous said...

I just re-watched the show and I too caught the comments about a new baby soon. Could this be the reason that on the beach episode Kate wore a cover up the whole time over her bathing suit?

Anonymous said...

Please know that this post is of course, just my opinion but it is something that concerns me deeply. I relate to Mady because I was very unhappy going up and most of my unhappiness was directed at my narcisstic self centered dysfunctional mother. My mother was much more interested in being the Queen Bee of the neighborhood and the PTA than she was in parenting her children. She put on appearances to everyone else who just loved her, but the truth was she neglected her children. Example I had to practicaly raise, i.e. cook for, clean, dress, change, bathe, my two younger sisters because my mother was too busy on the phone with her adoring friends. Just to give you a glimmpse, my mother would spend hours getting reading for a PTA meeting by spraying her hair with highlights, putting on tons of makeup, wearing a tight dress and parading in front of all to look at her to notice her beauty. My father was a dark, depressed, mean and self centered person who traveled a lot to get away from my mother. There are a lot of similarities between my mother and Kate - although I don't believe Kate is nearly as abusive as my mother.

Thing is - I caught onto the dysfunction in my family very early and I started to rebel. I stared to make faces at my mother (and I would get my head chopped off). I started to talk back and I would get beat up, including having my head held under a water socket and/or thrown down the stairs (nothing like the Gosselins who do not even come close to the physical abuse I suffered). But I was unhappy and I was stuck and there was no way out.

The very odd thing is that I used to hope that I was actually in a movie beind tested and that the director was going to come along and say "Cut, this is just a movie, hon, this isn't really how your life is supposed to be".. we were just testing your reaction. So help me God, this was a true thought I used to hope and pray I was in a movie and the director was going to come and end the nightmare.

The reason I am writing some of my story and not even close to all of it, is because I think I know what Mady is going through, because I went through the same, i.e. a very unhappy child who did not like her circumcstances but had no control over her childhood. (by the way, we had 5 in our family).

Well here is the really sad part.. once when my parents were fighting, and we were going to a park, my mother jumped out of the car and held onto the handle and my dad kept going and my mother started screaming...I started telling my parents and my siblings then then I wanted to die. I said to them "it is all my fault, I want to die, if I would die, then things would be better for you." My father didn't go that fast but nevertheless when we got home my mother made me stand over her tennis shoe and told me she had lost her toes and made me watch her take off her shoes (of course her feet and toes were fine but this shows you what kind of person she was).

Nobody knew what my mother was really like so everyone thought I was a horrible child. I always heard people whisper about me whenever we went out and I had a face on or wasn't acting all happy - everyone thought I was a troubled child and a bad child.

to this day, I am damaged and scarred about my childhood. I went to therapy and it didn't take away the pain that I still feel from being put through years of a horrible childhood and having no control over a sociopathic mother.

My thoughts about wanting to die continued until this day and I am in my 50s. I will never commit suicide but I do not have this desire to live another day. I stay here because I try to believe that God wants me to live for whatever reason.

thing is - I so relate to Mady. This kid is so unhappy. Look at all of the evidence that is being broadcasted at us. Mady hated Dutchland and wouldn't go on rides, she hits the kids at random, the had an attitude at Utah and wouldn't admit she was having fun even if she was, she acts like she is big and smart and can handle it all with her bad attitude but she can't. She was miserable at Disneyland, hated going to NICU, was a total brat to the swimming instructors, acts and I do mmean acts like she hates heights like her mother, is very skilled at breaking down easily (the hair episode), had a horrible anger tantrum at her birthday, was totally jealous the tups' birthday parties.. The list goes on and on and I am sure the posters here could fill it in. How many of you can estimate that Mady is going to have some sort of breakdown in the Hawaaii episode?

The thing is - that I understand Mady and why she is acting this way. And if someone doesn't get Mady help now, her life is going to be ruined. I can honestly say that the scars I received in childhood never healed, no matter whaat. I go through life but my spirit was demolished as a child and there is no recovery from that.

Please - I don't think Kate is near the terror that my mother was, but Kate is not paying attention to the seriousness of what is going on with Mady. Kate seems to think she is going to love Mady through this phase, but that is not going to work. Mady needs to have some other people in her life who take time to listen to her each day, who take serious and undivided attention in what Mady is doing and listens to Mady and helps mady work through her anger. If someone doesn't help Mady, I fear that she will have suicidal thoughts. She is already telling her mother that every day is a miserable day. That is a big clue right there.

Although I don't think it is right that we have to pay oodles of money to therapists to help us with deeply sad human issues, the Gosselins need to stop going to parks, and need to pay for a therapists to work with Mady.

Cara needs just as much help I am sure. We just see her showing more kindness than Mady and seemingly handling things a big better than Mady.

Please, whatever we can do to help save this child, if it is writing letters or whatever we can do, let's do it. I wish someone had done something to help me.

Blessings to you all and thank you for listening to my thoughts.

Ruthe said...

RE: the donation check

We only saw her fold a piece of paper and hand it off to someone ... it was probably her grocery list .

We're getting ourselves all worked up over nothing.

Anonymous said...

Long-time lurker, first time poster, so please be gentle!

I spent many weeks in the very same NICU as the Kon's missing them by a few short months, and I have to say I was deeply troubled when I watched this episode.

It appeared to me as I watched, that other than medical personnel, there were no other parents in the unit. Now, short of hellfire and brimstone, and even then, probably not, nothing could have made me leave my son's side. What a slap in the face to the other parents who actually had children in the unit, to be asked to leave to accommodate this farce of a reality show. Had I been there, I would have snapped I'm sure. What a selfish, selfish thing to do.

CarolSue said...

The whole hospital tour was very disrespectful to all the babies- Shame on the hospital allowing this tour,even welcoming this mobile circus-
The timeshare,WTH--We have traveled with our GD all over the Us-Staying in hotels always-Never was she allowed to run,jump or raise her voice-Not that she followed these rules 100% of the time-Reminders were given always- I never heard even the suggestion of respecting the other people staying there- It's surely not the kids fault-If this was supposed to be damage comtrol-It failed!
I also heard they would have a baby to hold soon-I can't even imagine-I guess there is room in the basement--
Did you notice the note from the twins to the Tup's- I guess it's not even considered Alexis' room at all--

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