How and Why I Lost That Luvin' Feeling

I just wanted to share on when & how I lost that lovin feeling for Jon & Kate.

Like many of you, I used to love Jon & Kate Plus 8. The kids were, and still are, fun & adorable. Jon & Kate would crack me up from time to time with their comments. But as time went on, I began to notice what others have. The favoring of certain kids. The inconsistencies. Beth disappears. Gumgate. Joelgate. Initially, I thought that maybe things were just stressful, and that we'd soon see things changing for the better.

I was horribly wrong.

What tugged at my heart was the hair transplant episode, and Jon & Kate leaving their sick children behind to fly across the country for a cosmetic procedure. Why does this get to me, you ask? My daughter.

My little girl came into the world 10 weeks premature via emergency c-section. She weighed just over 2 lbs & for several days, things were touch & go with her. Since she was born very close to the gestational age that the Gosselins tups were, I felt I could relate in a sense to Jon & Kate. She slowly began to improve, and we were joyous to bring her home 7 weeks later weighing just over 4 lbs.

The first 5 years were a roller coaster. She was hospitalized numerous times for reflux, RSV, pneumonia, and at one time, a priest was called in. We knew this was possible with a preemie in her first few years, but it didn't make things easier. Every cough, every fever, every asthma attack, every loss of appetite brought fear & uncertainty. Would we have to bring her in to the ER in the middle of the night with a temp of over 104? Many times, she would be fine, and within an hour or two, we'd have a feverish, lethargic, wheezing, coughing little girl who couldn't even walk. Many nights, days, holidays, weekends were spent at her bedside, either at home or in the pediatrics wing. New Years, the new millenium, was spent in the PICU while she battled another bout of RSV.

Never in my wildest dreams would we have ever considered leaving her when she showed signs of illness.That's why, when J&K took off to California for a hair transplant while their sweet, precious children were at home sick, I was absolutely livid with them, and heartbroken for those children. Leah & Joel in particular, saddened me so much, for it painfully obvious to me that those two were very sick.

How, HOW could parents do this, knowing the risk that preemies have their first few years of life? Do they not know how quickly things can spiral downhill?

Understand: If J&K were going to California for a needed procedure, such as a heart or kidney transplant, I would be a lot more accepting. Sometimes you have to make difficult decisions in life. This, in my mind, was not one of them. To choose between being with your ill preemies or have cosmetic surgery? You STAY HOME with your sick children who need their parents. You either reschedule the procedure, have Jon go with another family member (Kevin?) while Kate stays home, or you suck it up & deal with your husband losing his hair, KATE. If TLC pushed the issue, you tell them to pound sand, because YOUR CHILDREN come first.

I am very fortunate today, because my daughter is a healthy, beautiful, intelligent girl with a heart of gold. When she watched this with me, she looked at me & said, "Mom, you & Dad would've never left me for that."

No baby, we wouldn't have.

Blog entry submitted via an email from adri.

109 comments:

Anonymous said...

I'm glad your little girl is OK, adri. I'm sorry you had to go through uncertain times with her. I totally agree with what you say. J&K are sick people for the things they do to these kids. I can't imagine for the life of me that they we still go to CA for a stupid hair transplant while those kids were sick. Also, the nerve of them to put that on Jodi!! It really just boggles the mind that they could be so callous and uncaring. Yet they still have their followers that think they are such great parents. If these are great parents, I wonder what bad parents are? These two are close to being the most selfish, greedy people on the face of this earth.

Anonymous said...

Wonderful post!
This sums up a lot of the feelings we have. The show was so exciting to see at first, and we were all amazed about the tiny babies.
The honeymoon is over.
Also, they are making an estimated 4 to 5 million per year now, between the show, the sponsors and the speaking engagements. And that is before any book sales to come.
If you still want to donate to their "non-existent college fund", go right ahead. I need my money for my own family.

Anonymous said...

My kids have never really had any major issues. But any slight cough or sneeze I'm checking into it, and not leaving them with anyone! Family members or not. Because that's the way it should be.

And they did that for what? Jon's hair looks like crap!

beachluvin said...

It never entered my mind that Kevin could have gone to California with Jon in Kate's place. Now, that is a show worth watching. The two of them in California by themselves. Kate would have gained respect for her choice to stay home with her sick children. Jodi could have lend a hand or spend the night with her children, but of course this option probably never into Kate's mind either. "No one goes on trip but me, the day that happens, I'm through with the show".

Anonymous said...

You know, after the hair plug episode, I thought "this is it, no one, not matter how "in love" with Jon and Kate, can defend the decision of these parents to make that trip for that totally self- indulgent reason, and leave sick children behind."
Wrong again. I could not believe the rationalizations, reasons and excuses the fanatics found for them.
I thank you so much for writing about this episode. I knew other parents had to be outraged about it and to me, it speaks to the lows that Kate and Jon and this show have sunk to.

Anonymous said...

I'm not sure what show you watch but, they are NOT ill preemies. They had a minor cold or flu. These children have done amazingly well for being preemies and aren't hospitalized for their breathing issues just nebs at home. They are quite healthy kids who haven't had any lasting effects like your daughter has. I'm not sure what your story has to do with them. I'd have stayed home and sent someone else with my dh but, that's me. They had tickets, they had an appt and their children had colds. Plenty of moms/dads leave their children at daycare all day with colds or go on business trips when their kids have colds. I don't see the need to share all this about your dd since the Gosselin kids have none of these issues. Have you noticed they've never had a hospital stay with eight kids?????? I think they are a pretty healthy lot!

Anonymous said...

Thank you for sharing your story. You bring an insight borne of experience. This kind of story is what events looking to book Jon and Kate as "inspirational" speakers need to see. It's one thing to be praised for the decision not to reduce the number of babies in the womb -- but it's equally sacred to take care of them properly once they are born.

Thank you again.

Anonymous said...

Adri, great post. And the hair transplant 2-part ep was the same time I got totally disgusted by Kate.

Anonymous said...

Very well said, Adri, you have hit another nail on the head of this farce, as so many of this blog's posters do all the time...once again, the scheduling of the show and Jon's hair comes before the welfare of the kids...heaven forbid they would have to reschedule Jon's hair transplant and Kate would be forced to wait even longer for his follicles to grow in....

SusanO said...

Amen!!! You know I was wathcing that episode and thinking almost the exact same thing. Under NO circumstances would I EVER leave eihter one of my children if they were sick!!!!! I honestly thought to my self, what kind of parents leave their sick children behind (w/ family members who "LOVE" them or not!!!) while they go ACROSS THE COUNTRY to have a cosmetic procedure done?!?!?!?!?! Not very caring, and loving ones like they claim to be! If you REALLY cared, you would have rescheduled.

I feel very bad for those poor babies! I can only imagine the feelings they must have when their parents are gone especially while they are sick! I also feel bad for poor Aunt Jodi and Uncle Kevin. They were the ones home with 12 children and many of them were sick.

I am more than certian that you would NEVER see Kate returning the Favor, and watch that many children for 2 or more days. That would just be to much for her... Seeing how she's always soooo exhausted and all!

FIONA said...

I was so afraid the post was going to end differently! Thank God it didn't! Of course you wouldn't leave your sick child, most parent's would not.

My daughter is 18, and still wants me in the middle of night, weather it be for cough medicine, or to take her temperature or to just sit with her.

When you are sick, you want and NEED your Mom, most of all-no slight to Dad's.

I was tearing up during that episode. All you wanted to do was just hold some kids. I know that they were in exceptional and loving care, better than what they would ever receive from Jon and Kate! But the fact that Kon left 8 sick kids, in which who knows what could have happened was the most irresponsible act I have witnessed with them. I think that is when they "lost" alot of the sheeple.

Thanks for your story. I am sure you are a wonderful Mom!

Anonymous said...

I'm so sorry to hear about your daughter, and I'm happy to hear that she's healthy. That said, I think it's important to keep in mind that families of 10 are much different from families of 3. I'm the 4th of 8 kids--and not one twin anywhere in there--and I know my parents took advantage of any opportunity to take a break, colds or not. We all turned out healthy and loving. So I can't imagine what it would be like to have six four-year-olds all at once. I'd be on the plane, too, knowing that my children were in the loving hands of their aunt and uncle.

Anonymous said...

While I agree with your post, I was almost relieved they were left with Kevin and Jodi! Jodi showed Joel so much love when he was almost throwing up into the yellow bowl. she picked him up and held him in a way im pretty sure we've never seen kate hold 1 of the icky boys. what is up with the throwing up in the yellow bowl thing btw?? I think the tups and twins are happy to be with Kevin and Jodi, I would be too if Kate was my mom, and she scared the crap out of me regularly like that.

Nancy said...

I might have postponed the trip if I'd been in Kate's shoes, because I did not have any loving relatives nearby when my kids were small. However, Jodi and Kevin are responsible and loving relatives who were there to take care of the kids for Jon and Kate. They weren't sick with any dire illness, they had one of those typical childhood viruses. I believe Kate and Jon make a lot of mistakes in parenting,but this isn't one of them.

sistah2 said...

For those anons who defend the trip to CA because all they had was "colds":
I believe the kids were MUCH sicker than that. They had the flu, much worse than a cold. also, 2 out of Jodie's 4 kids were also very sick. also, keep in mind this was not a once in a year opportunity for Kon to "get away". They are away many, many weekends for various reasons - so please don't imply that this was a rare getaway that they "needed a break " for! Every situation is different, and in a case like this, you cannot compare it to the normal trips that are taken by most parents. This epi spoke volumes about who Kon really is and what they are about.

Robert said...

and I know my parents took advantage of any opportunity to take a break, colds or not.

It's amazing just how many breaks they seem to get though isn't it?

SmartyQ said...

I well remember Katie's saying (more than once) that she won't try to rollerblade or ice skate or ski because she might get hurt, be laid up and unable to care for her family. Boy, though, when it came to a choice between tending sick children or going on a free trip to California sans children, Katie didn't hesitate. She snuck out of the house like a thief in the night. Buh-bye!

Whitney said...

A few years ago I had to go in for surgery to take out a tumor on my ovary (I was 19 at the time). My mother had made plans to go on a weekend to make a quilt for my sister's wedding (which was less than a month away). Long story short my father took me to the hospital and got me what I needed. No, he's not the sit by me and rub my hair type but he did make sure I was comfortable by having my pain medication and crackers and such. My mom still feels bad about not being there. But I don't hold a grudge against her for it.

laurie said...

Wow. Excellent post Adri.
I really enjoy reading the posts of those with similar situations (ie: preemies). It makes me know that this show is exactly as the news media has recently stated: A SHAM.

laurie said...

ps: i wonder where aunt jodi's sister is? she's been quiet for a good while now. ??

peas and carrots said...

Everything aside, your number 1 responsibility is to your kids 24/7/365. If your kids are sick you stay home. Any kid with asthma or asthma like symptoms when they get even a minor cold can spiral quickly and require emergency medical intervention.

As for the hair transplant, yet another selfish freebie given to two spoiled narciscists. Hair transplant,tummy tuck, assorted trips, spa, what's next? This is getting so lame.

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...
I'm not sure what show you watch but, they are NOT ill preemies. They had a minor cold or flu. These children have done amazingly well for being preemies and aren't hospitalized for their breathing issues just nebs at home. They are quite healthy kids who haven't had any lasting effects like your daughter has. I'm not sure what your story has to do with them. I'd have stayed home and sent someone else with my dh but, that's me. They had tickets, they had an appt and their children had colds. Plenty of moms/dads leave their children at daycare all day with colds or go on business trips when their kids have colds. I don't see the need to share all this about your dd since the Gosselin kids have none of these issues. Have you noticed they've never had a hospital stay with eight kids?????? I think they are a pretty healthy lot!
I'm not sure what show you watch but, they are NOT ill preemies. They had a minor cold or flu. These children have done amazingly well for being preemies and aren't hospitalized for their breathing issues just nebs at home. They are quite healthy kids who haven't had any lasting effects like your daughter has. I'm not sure what your story has to do with them. I'd have stayed home and sent someone else with my dh but, that's me. They had tickets, they had an appt and their children had colds. Plenty of moms/dads leave their children at daycare all day with colds or go on business trips when their kids have colds. I don't see the need to share all this about your dd since the Gosselin kids have none of these issues. Have you noticed they've never had a hospital stay with eight kids?????? I think they are a pretty healthy lot!


See, I will never get this attitude. Well, gee, it was just a cold. In a baby to 5 year old child a cold can quickly turn into life threatening pneumonia or meningitis. I've seen it happen in my immediate family a child with a runny nose and cough ends up in the PICU on a ventilator within 24 hours. Most forms of meningitis are now covered with a vaccine but not all and the same with pneumonia but they are not 100 percent effective. One of the children that was on a ventilator was due to aspiration pneumonia from their vomitus getting into their lungs, he was 5. The two of the three little ones we had in PICU that ended up on ventilators survived but the one year old that had meningitis didn't.
Blowing off a cold in a young child can have tragic consequences and parents should be educated on how closely an ill child needs to be watched because they have little reserves and can become dehydrated or septic rapidly. This is one of the lectures my sister loves to give to everyone about the need to monitor an seemly minor illness because a child is at much higher risk for grave complications then an adult. She worked in pediatrics for a brief period but said it was too heart breaking because parents would be so huffy about their child's illness being such an inconvenience for them. She loved the children but the attitude of parents where either it wasn't there fault or they acted as if the child was just a big inconvenience drove her out.
And even if it's just a cold, so what, when is a vanity procedure more important then making sure you are there to comfort your child. Not that Kate seems to be the type to do that. Here's my 8 sick kids. Ta, Ta, I'm off to get another freebie, or to collect another love offering. I don't care what excuse people give Jon and Kate for that amazing lack of concern for their children. What I do worry though is how little those defenders must care about their own children. I can't ever imagine just dropping an ill child off at daycare and most daycares I know of would be calling the parent to pick the child up as do schools. Yes, there are a lot of crappy parents out there. Jon and Kate are among that group in this case. Just because there are other parents that put many other things before their children doesn't make it right in anyone's case.

Anonymous said...

Well i agree with everything you said. i wouldnt leave my kids either if they were sick, BUT the person who watched them could have easily said NO. I have children and if someone wanted me to watch there sick children, i would say absolutely not! i dont want my kids sick as well.

Anonymous said...

Although I don't think Jon and Kate necessairly did the right thing in leaving the kids (I am going to hold judgement however as I am yet to see this episode and have only read about it on here which isn't going to give me a particularly unbiased view). I also agree with the person a bit further up who said that the although your daughter's story is horrible and I am glad she is ok now, it has been stated on the show before that the six kids are fine (they have been incredibly lucky), the kids have all been sick many times before and I think in that sense Jon and Kate know what they are dealing with.

amandarella82 said...

I totally agree with this post. Neither of my children were preemies, but I still would not have left them if they were sick. Also, I would have been waaay more appreciative to Jodi, she is soo good with them.

Anonymous said...

I can't really comment on if I think it was right or not for them to leave. I'm not a parent, so I don't know what I'd do in that situation.

However, I don't think this was tv show material. The show is called "John and Kate plus Eight" not "Jon and Kate plus hairplugs". I could care less about what Jon and Kate do when they're not with their kids. I think their website would have been a better forum for their advertising/hairplug swap.

SmartyQ said...

After really thinking about it, I decided what is really bugging me about Kon's leaving sick children. It is the niggling feeling that neither Kon would have returned early if Jodi or Kevin called to say one of the children was admitted to the hospital.

My mother lives in the Midwest and I live in SoCal. I am a fully functioning adult with a devoted SO and dear friends—many of whom know my mother. Yet, when I was going to have major abdominal surgery, my sibs (bless their hearts!) had to restrain my mother from flying to California to interrogate the surgeon who would be operating on her daughter. Ma did insist on being there when I discharged from the hospital so she could care for me. Ma was 81 at the time. I don't think her behavior was unusual, and I'm sure most of you mothers would agree with me.

randibisme said...

I am choked up after reading your post. My sons (twins) were due in October and were born in August(6 weeks early). We had NICU time and myt son Tony came home at only 3 lbs 13 ounces (Nate was 5 1/2). There was some twin to twin transfusion stuff happening and thank God they came out when they did. I agree, Jon and Kate made a poor and selfish choice when they decided to go for Jon's hair op instead of staying home.
My twins cannot stand it if anyone but Mommy and Daddy touch them when they are sick. I love them with all my heart and when I see other children who are seriously sick and their parents are begging God for them to be okay, to make it, that is when I think, "Jon and Kate are so lucky to have these lovely eight children who are so healthy. Thank you God!" It hurts me when people take their children for granted because children are gifts of the Lord to us. They show us more about ourselves than anything else could ever reveal.
Randi Booth

The Truth Will Set You Free said...

The kids were very sick. They had been sick for several days with high fevers and upper respiratory symptoms. Kate said that Leah hadn't been out of bed or eaten in 4 days. Alyssa and Bennett were also sick and several of the kids were vomiting. This wasn't just a typical cold.

When they were discussing the plans, Jon did suggest that Kevin go with him, but Kate wouldn't allow it. I didn't watch much of the episode, but I doubt this was mentioned...maybe part of Kate's motivation was the fact that she had a free spa day while they were there. There's no way she would pass that up! They also had an "important" dinner with someone from TLC.

I don't believe for one minute that these things couldn't have been rescheduled. Kate was just tired of dealing with sick kids, so she jetted off and left the "dirty work" for Jodi. But remember, their kids are their "top priority".

No one can just say "NO" to Kate. Jodi has watched every other family member get cut off by Kate. She was trying to keep the peace and be there for her nieces and nephews. It's a very complicated situation, and Jodi didn't feel like saying "No" was even an option. The same goes for some of the other "helpers". Kate holds the kids over their heads and the result of upsetting her is always losing the relationship with the kids. She doesn't realize (or maybe doesn't care) that in the long run, it's her kids who are being punished. They are missing out on having relationships with family/friends who really do care and love them.

sistah2 said...

almost forgot...at least one (maybe two)of the tups has dealt with asthma, we've seen in earlier epi's the breathing mask... these kids were really sick that weekend. also - as someone has said upthread, there was a point that Jodi could have said NO to babysitting. I am sure now she wishes she had. That is the bigger picture here - its what makes Kon so unlikeable - not only what they pulled that weekend, but just how nice Jodi was to babysit that weekend anyway, despite the circumstances, when her own kids were sick as well. When you think about how she was treated just a short time later by Kate, with no respect or gratitude whatsoever, it makes Kon's behavior that weekend that much more appalling.

Anonymous said...

I think, that this is one of those things, that is up to the parent.

Me, personally, wouldn't have left my children, but then, both my daughters (1 year apart) had a virus/flu, dehydrated within 6 hours and both were hospitalized for one week. The dr. told me young children dehydrate REALLY fast. Now when they're sick I push pedialyte on them LOL.

I don't have any love for Kate, but I know that some parents aren't as over-protective as I am, so I guess it's all right.

Anna said...

I finally got to catch this episode a few days ago after only reading about it here. I was asking within the first 5 minutes why Kate had to go with Jon. I thought the trip was something he could have done by himself. After I saw the procedure I realized that he probably did need someone there with him since he was pretty drugged out afterwards, but why did it have to be Kate? Why could a friend or family member go with him. Oh yeah, that's right, they've isolated themselves from family and friends. Although Kevin and Jodi were still in the picture during this episode. Anyway, there is no way I would have gone on that trip if my kids were that sick AND the babysitter who was to watch my kids had sick kids of her own. That was pretty thoughtless of both Jon and Kate to still have Jodi babysit all 12 kids when she had 2 sick ones of her own. The only positive to this is that Joel and Leah probably got better care with Jodi than they would have with Kate in control.

Along with Joelgate, the other episode with sick kids that really bugged me was when Colin was constipated and they were at the furniture store. I was screaming at the TV for Kate to put down the brochure and go home, or for Jon to step up and insist that they go home. Kate could have come back later on her own or called in her order. Picking out matching beds was much more important to her than her son who was in obvious discomfort.

The kids definitely come second in this family.

Anonymous said...

I think both parents choosing to go to California for Jon's hair transplants while the children were sick reflected badly on both Jon and Kate. For those who would argue that the children were not that sick, I think as Kate would be the first to point out, 8 is definitely a lot more than one. So if you were to tell me that they left one child ill, I'd still question their judgment, but might give them a pass. But to leave a whole group of them, knowing that Jodi's own kids were sick - what that reflects to me most of all is how incredibly selfish Jon and Kate are. Their needs supercede anyone else's - their own kids or their babysitters.

But let's take it one step further. How much chutzpah does it take to leave 8 sick kids with Jodi - and then refuse to allow Figure 8 to pay her for her time?

Carrie Ann said...

I don't agree with everything Kate does and she certainly would never be left with my children. But, I don't think it is an issue to leave sick children with relatives while going to a pre-planned appointment. And for heaven's sake, not all preemies have problems. I was a preemie and I had no health issues. I'm pretty sure the the tups haven't had any issues that would raise red flags. I'm sorry your daughter had many health concerns. I wish people would stop finding fault in everything that Jon and Kate do. They may not be doing everything the way we think they should but they are not completely evil people.

IMHO said...

I "fell out of love" with the Jon and Kate show with this very episode. I watch for the kids and tolerate them in spite of it. Instead, I have to watch others care for these precious kids while they are out having a cosmetic procedure. HELLO!! What were you thinking, Jon and Kate!!

Renee said...

The show is called "John and Kate plus Eight" not "Jon and Kate plus hairplugs". -Anonymous 10:55

LOL! I need to stop nominating things for comment of the week but this one was REALLY funny!

Anonymous said...

After really thinking about it, I decided what is really bugging me about Kon's leaving sick children. It is the niggling feeling that neither Kon would have returned early if Jodi or Kevin called to say one of the children was admitted to the hospital.

But this is just a ridiculous thing to post. You have no way of knowing what they would've done. They were gone for three days total, two in the air and one there. You have absolutely no way of knowing what they'd have done so to assume isn't appropriate. And saying their children could've ended up in PICU on a ventilator from a cold/flu is just as ridiculous. COme on. I get that they should've stayed. I would have. But, it was also not as awful as it's being made out to be here. You won't get your point across if you go to the opposite extreme where they can do nothing right.

Anonymous said...

It's not as if they had a life threatening illness. Kids get sick all the time. Yes, Jon and Kate were leaving for a stupid reason. Yes, it was selfish and borderline cruel of them to leave. But it wasn't so much cruel to the kids as it was to Kevin and Jodi! They're who I was feeling sorry for.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, leaving their sick kids was very bad judgement, but I felt very sorry for Jodi. Having to take care of one sick child is exhausting, but 8 simultaneously for several days!!!! Although, as many have said, they were probably in better hands with Jodi. I wonder if she even got a thank you.

SmartyQ said...

You have no way of knowing what they would've done. They were gone for three days total, two in the air and one there. You have absolutely no way of knowing what they'd have done so to assume isn't appropriate.
Katie says the show presents an accurate picture of their lives. I thus think most of the posters who pay attention to Kon can accurately predict what they'll do based on their past behavior. Tell me, do you really watch each week expecting Katie to admit she's wrong about something? Anything?

BTB, it doesn't take a day to fly from Pennsylvania to Los Angeles. It's maybe a five-hour flight—unless, I suppose, you're going in a hot-air balloon.

Anonymous said...

These children are not sick preemies. I was 2 months early, due October 27 born August 30. I was in the hospital for two weeks, sent home with a clean bill of health. Of course with preemies there are extra precautions to take, but after they reach the age 2 they are considered "typical" if there have been no problems thus far. SO, if the tups get sick, its just like other children with asthma, colds, flues, etc.

I was a nanny for years....parents leave sick children ALL the time. Unfortunately this is more the norm. Parents don't care if they have a little cold. In fact one child I had fell off the couch at 18 months bit his tongue and I had to take him to the ER. I called parents but they asked if they needed me or my insurance info...if I hadn't said yes I would like you hear, they wouldn't have come back. They were on a weekend "vacation"

J&K are responsible for their actions as parents. They obviously felt that leaving was fine and they were putting their children in good hands.

Anonymous said...

I also watched this episode and felt very strongly that Kate should have stayed home. I can tell you from first hand experience that a simple "cold" can go horribly wrong very quickly.

My son was 3 when he threw up one night in our kitchen and complained of a sore throat. For the next 14 hours, despite my trying to get anything in him - water, Pedialyte, etc, he would not eat or drink anything. I was concerned about dehydration and the fact that he was becoming very listless. I called our pediatrician who met me at the hospital. After starting an IV and doing a load of tests, they were finally able to tell me that they felt that he had become severly dehydrated (so quickly because he was so young)and also told me that there had been a rash of meningitis cases in our area. He ended up having strep throat and a double ear infection and we spent the next 72 hours in the hospital. He was fine, but the pediatrician was very relieved that I called as quickly as I had.

Please note that my son was not a preemie and was a healthy 8 lbs at birth. I also missed a very important meeting that I was scheduled to go to for work and would have left for the morning that my child started having symptoms, even though I had my Mom to care for my son. There was no way I was getting on a plane and flying 2000 miles away when my child was sick.

I have watched almost every episode of Jon & Kate, and I would say that I have the utmost respect for Jodi (and Kevin)and feel that they are wonderful parents, but they have 4 children and you have heaped another 8 on them (most of whom are sick). There are preschools that have a better child-adult ratio then that.

My question would be this - almost every appointment can be rescheduled, especially in a case such as this, why would you not put your children first? Isn't that why you went through what you did to have them?

Anonymous said...

You're right, I don't know exactly what Kate would have done. I have watched the show, every episode, and feel that Jodi is more nurturing. What I was trying to get across is the fact that that was a LOT to ask of anyone - even a relative. That poor woman has been used and abused by Jon and Kate for the last 4 years. As Julie explains, she did it for the kids but still... I just hope she at least got a thank you.

Anonymous said...

How much chutzpah does it take to leave 8 sick kids with Jodi - and then refuse to allow Figure 8 to pay her for her time?

It takes Kate chutzpah.

Seriously though, Kate does not cope effectively outside the well-ordered box. We have seen time and time again that she becomes easily overwhelmed with the care of 8 children. Common sense seems to fly out the window under stress. Joel is vomiting on the new comforter? Place Joel on floor in area where items can't get ruined. I have no idea what Jon thought of Kate's reaction when he saw is "little buddy" on the floor in the laundry room.

When faced with days of caring for many sick children are we then surprised to learn she opted to go to LA?

I'm also becoming more and more convinced that part of problem is that Jon and Kate have lost control over their lives. I just counted the number of new episodes that have aired in 2008 - 42 episodes in 34 weeks and the cameras are still rolling. Maybe neither Jon nor Kate can cope with the situation that they are in now,(8 kids, no real job opportunities that can support the family anywhere near what TLC will pay, and cranking out more than a show a week) and are running around like rats in a cage hoping it will all work out.

While I think that most people can empathize with trying on new opportunities and getting in over your head, most people reassess and work through it. Also the consequences are usually not as important as the emotional well being of 8 children.

Anonymous said...

why would you not put your children first?

And that really is the question.

Let's even assume that Jon felt he had to go on the trip because the procedure had been scheduled and the doctor and staff couldn't or wouldn't reschedule (since I think it was freebie.)

That still doesn't explain why Kate had to go. Someone had to be with Jon - but if the production staff wanted to film the procedure, then he would have those adults with him to get him to the hotel in his impaired state. I also am sure that the doctor's office has dealt with adults who come in on their own and need help -- you can hire a private duty nurse if that's what is needed.

A meeting with the TLC group? Now that could have been rescheduled OR done via conference call with Kate at home and Jon in California.

I think it was irresponsible of them to go; but even more, I think it was selfish of them to impose. Even if Jodi and Kevin offered, there are times, and I know that this is a foreign concept to Kate, that you do say "no thank you."

Anonymous said...

I have a family member that will leave her child to do anything else while she does what she wants to do...just like Kon. And what happens is other people in the household wind up sick, including the caregivers, in many cases.

My main issue is the children. There were,(what?) 12 children left with two adults. If Jodi and Kevin's kids had a different illness than Kon's, they could have ended up with ALL THE CHILDREN sharing germs and spreading sickness back and forth. Some of the kids could have had upper respitory infections (like some of the 8 did) and the others could have had a stomach virus, for example. What if everyone was sick at once? They were gone for a few days; the kids who were well could have gotten sick. What if they got a child with a double whammy and one of them had to take them to the hospital? If it took J&K a whole day to fly there, it would take just as long to fly back, and they would have been scrambling around for additional help for the kids.

I'm done with my rant. You may proceed. :)

IMHO said...

I was happy to read Aunt Jodi's sister's post! (The Truth Will Set You Free). I keep checking your blog to see how Jodi is doing in all of this. I check this blog often, and hers, just to see how Jodi is doing. I hope she's OK, and I will really miss seeing her on the show. I LOVE it when the kids Visit Aunt Jodi! Well, I've been lurking here for weeks, finally joining and saying something today, because this episode was a turning point for me in my relationship with this show. #1 being - why are we watching this? and #2 being - those poor kids!

Elle said...

I was shocked to see Kate put sick kids on the laundry room floor AND THEN TURN THE WASHER AND DRYER ON BESIDE THEM!!! Who wants to sleep by all that noise when they are really sick? What was she thinking? And to say that they will miss the bucket so they have to go in the laundry room? All kids "miss the bucket". I put trash bags around so if they miss, it's not so bad. And how many times have we seen sick kids sleeping at her feet in the kitchen? Why can't she make them a bed on the couch in the living room? It's right by the kitchen and she can hear them. I thought that's what all Mom's with sick kids did. She just let's them sleep on the kitchen floor and works around them. I can never understand that. Also, for all her talk about being clean, I find her to be rather gross. And I don't think I'm being picky. After all, she said she has OCD. Fine then, why don't the buckets the kids throw up in have a liner, like a small trash bag? I have never seen a liner in those buckets. Why are the potties only cleaned once a day? And they are cleaned in the sink! AHHHHH! GROSS! Empty them out, then rinse them with a little antibacterial spray, and then rinse with water. Even Kate's brother said how gross their potties are. Kate said that she doesn't use toliet paper on the children. When the girls finally pooped on the potties, Kate just "checked" them, on camera, and then they were on their way. What 2 1/2 year old is capable of making sure they are clean? None! What, there is an age limit for toliet paper usage? She complains about not wanting any dust in the house, let me tell you, what I have seen on that show is even worse. Thank God the kids get a bath everyday, they need it! I'm sorry, but the complaints she makes about having to be so clean have never rung true to me. I understand that 8 kids is a lot and nobody would ever be perfect. But, don't worry about the dust, worry about the germy areas where people can actually get sick, not just sneeze from to much dust!

Anonymous said...

IMO, I think it was totally ridiculous that the hair transplant surgery was even featured as a J & K + 8 episode!! It served no entertainment purpose, it was not something that the viewing audience (including small children) needed to see, and it served nothing more than a one hour long businesses advertisement.
The hair transplant episode speaks volumes to proove the point that J & K are nothing more than greedy, vain, self serving, hypocritcial celebrity wanna bes! IMO, what this show has come to represent is so wrong on so many levels.

Elle said...

Sorry, I have one more comment. I never understood her freaking out about the grass stains (it's called play clothes for a reason!) until I read this blog and realized she sells the clothes! Oh, my gosh! Thanks for the info! And to think, she even gets them for FREE! (I didn't know that either. I thought they were very well dressed for a family with eight kids. Little People, Big World should get some free clothes for their kids. They need it.) How much worse would she act if she really had to pay for the clothes?

Birdie1483 said...

I posted this on another topic, but I think it's worth watching:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/10841225#10841225

Listen to Bobbi McCaughey's daughter bragging about how she mows the ENTIRE yard. :) Now THIS is someone who should get free stuff!

Anonymous said...

Birdie - She got the yard she is mowing plus the house for free.

I dont know if its common knowledge or not, but families of multiples reguarly get free things. Diapers, formula, clothes etc.. Certainly not the extent of the families who do reality shows and get trips but its not accurate to think that regular families of multiples do not receive freebees.

merryway said...

Just was watching the replay of "a Day in the Life". Kate is holding the yellow bowl for Aaden to use if he throws up. Some of the other children are standing around him waiting to watch their brother toss his cookies. Kate turns to them and says "I don't think Aaden needs an audience for this" or something very close to that.

uhmm, really what can you say to that? Never mind that the world is watching.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for sharing the clip with us. I have a feeling when the Gosselin sextuplets turn 7 years old, we won't be hearing about how their mother mows the front and back lawn. The only yard work Kate does is sit on her plastic throne and point her fingers.

Anonymous said...

As a mother of multiples lurking around here let me clarify one generalization that really pissed me off -- I DID NOT EVER GET ANYTHING FOR FREE JUST BECAUSE I HAVE TWINS. Some of us parents of multiples (who got them the old-fashioned way), just suck it up, pay double and move on. Also, because of the increase in forced multiple pregnancies, many, many companies that used to give discounts or freebies QUIT. The only place I EVER got a discount that was worth driving out of my way for was the OSH KOSH outlet store. Having multiples is NOT a free ticket to ride. And yes, Jon and Kate are abusing their children thru exploitation.... Can ANYONE say Dionne Quintuplets? Same song, different TIME. Look how screwed up their lives were...

Kathi said...

The only yard work Kate does is sit on her plastic throne and point her fingers.

For some reason I just got a mental image of Kate sitting on one of the kids potty seats when I read that. LOL!

peas and carrots said...

My daughter has mild asthma, but when she gets a cold it can go from a sniffle to full blown pneumonia in a day. The tups have asthma symptoms, because they aired seen an episode where the kids were getting neb treatments.

From my own very personal scary experience things can change very rapidly. My daughter was fine one sunny morning and by mid afternoon had a raging fever and was having trouble breathing, this all started with a simple case of the sniffles. If it was me I would have stayed home.

SaraJFP said...

I know this is off topic and I'm probably askin' a stupid question But..

Are there any charities that the Gosselins are known to contribute to or are involved in?

When my daughter is old enough to understand, I will strive to teach her and show first hand that helping others less fortunate is our duty to society. And if I was as wealthy and well-known as the Gosselins, I would jump at the opportunity to do some good.

adri said...

"I'm not sure what show you watch but, they are NOT ill preemies. They had a minor cold or flu. These children have done amazingly well for being preemies and aren't hospitalized for their breathing issues just nebs at home. They are quite healthy kids who haven't had any lasting effects like your daughter has. I'm not sure what your story has to do with them."

Simple. It was when my feelings on the show, and J&K, really turned a corner. I figured that since there were a few other blogs discussing other poster's views on when things changed for them, I'd send mine & see if it's published, and get a discussion going.

Granted, the Gosselin kids, overall, look like a healthy bunch, and maybe it was minor illnesses. But from my perspective as a viewer & a mom, it didn't look minor; it looked like it had the potential to turn serious for at least one child.

"These children are not sick preemies. I was 2 months early, due October 27 born August 30. I was in the hospital for two weeks, sent home with a clean bill of health. Of course with preemies there are extra precautions to take, but after they reach the age 2 they are considered "typical" if there have been no problems thus far. SO, if the tups get sick, its just like other children with asthma, colds, flues, etc."

This may be the case with many preemies, and that's great. Many steps have been taken in preemie care over the years, and I hope it continues. That said, it doesn't hold true for all preemies.

Also, healthy children can have a minor illness become serious very quickly. I can site several examples off the top of my head just in my own family, but this isn't the adri family blog...LOL. :)

Thank you to everyone for commenting & your kind words :)

Serena said...

>>> I'm not sure what your story has to do with them.

>>>>>> Simple. It was when my feelings on the show, and J&K, really turned a corner. I figured that since there were a few other blogs discussing other poster's views on when things changed for them, I'd send mine & see if it's published, and get a discussion going.


Exactly. This series raises so many tangential issues that are discussed on the blog. Adri's submission was interesting, well-written, and definitely relevant to the show.

~D~ said...

While I agree with your post, I was almost relieved they were left with Kevin and Jodi! Jodi showed Joel so much love when he was almost throwing up into the yellow bowl. she picked him up and held him in a way im pretty sure we've never seen kate hold 1 of the icky boys. what is up with the throwing up in the yellow bowl thing btw??

I was just watching a rerun today when the kids were sick, not sure which it was. Aaden was puking and she was stroking his head, kissing him and saying "I'm sorry buddy". So, Kate is not always cold when they're sick. The yellow bowl is probably the puke bowl. Who likes to sit over a toilet and puke and why have kids constantly puking in bowls you eat out of??

See, I will never get this attitude. Well, gee, it was just a cold. In a baby to 5 year old child a cold can quickly turn into life threatening pneumonia or meningitis. I've seen it happen in my immediate family a child with a runny nose and cough ends up in the PICU on a ventilator within 24 hours. Most forms of meningitis are now covered with a vaccine but not all and the same with pneumonia but they are not 100 percent effective.

Okay, I'm sorry but most parents are not going to live in fear, as you seem to be suggesting that their child will die from a cold that suddenly escaltes into meningitis. As a side note, h. influenzae type b (Hib vax)is one type of meningitis, most types are actually not covered by vaccination.

K.C. said...

It is insulting to leave the churches high and dry in the name of 'spending more time with the kids'. Aren't these the same children they left while they were very ill in exchange for free hair plugs? I can only hope the people they cancelled on see, (or have seen), this episode.

Link to GWoP blog entry, Leaving the Churches High and Dry:

http://gosselinswithoutpity.blogspot.com/2008/07/leaving-churches-high-and-dry.html

beachluvin said...

elle said:
"Kate said that she doesn't use toliet paper on the children. When the girls finally pooped on the potties, Kate just "checked" them, on camera, and then they were on their way."

Is this true? Oh my gosh, now we know why she complains so much about having to get stains out. Not to mention how unhealthy this practice of not using toilet paper is! Never mind that this woman is supposed to be nurse, how about a decent mother, this borders on neglect.

Maggie said...

I know a cold is not a big deal for most kids, but when a preemie is throwing up, is it a cold? I don't remember my children throwing up with a cold. Oh well it is just Joel, we know how important he is in the scheme of things.

As far as their charity work, I will give them a pass on this. Just because I can be fair.

They MAY do some charity work, but they are on a lose/lose situation here. If they brag about it or even publicize it, they will get criticized for bragging about it.

I didn't do a whole lot for charity when I had little babies, purse strings were tight and my time was non-existant.

On the other hand, purse strings aren't tight at Manor Gosselin, but I still understand why they might not want people to criticize or question their charity choices. IF they make any.

Elle said...

Beachluvin asked if my comments about the toliet paper are true... Yes! At first I thought they weren't showing the toliet paper part on camera because it is very personal. But, no, I have seen several things happen on the show, plus Kate's comments about not using any toliet paper on the little kids. She "checks" to make sure they look clean and that's it. Mady and Cara have even helped the kids go potty and it was very obvious they didn't use any either. Speechless, I was speechless. Let's start a toliet paper donation drive for them. After all, toliet paper is getting more expensive and $25,000 per speech won't stretch as far as it used to.

Anonymous said...

Just wanted to add that at the tup's third birthday, and then reiterated in favorite moments, Kate talks about how lucky they are to have them all. They were preemies, it was precarious, so each bday is like a miracle (paraphrasing).

Sort of talking out of both sides of her mouth to leave them sick then with a mom with 4 kids of her own for hairplugs.

That's when I wish the grandparents were involved, to help in those times.

Anonymous said...

I have to disagree.

If it were for my own self improvement with something that i knew that would improve my quality of life. I would go. I too have a former preemie, born at 2lbs at 26wks. She stood in the NICU for 3 months, has overcome RSV & a skull operation @ only 5 months old. This operation was purely cosmetic. Her twin brother, my son, lost his life in the NICU and never came home. Life is too short. It took a long long time for me to realize that sickness such as a cold or even the flu will not equal death. The kids were sick it happens. They rested at home which they needed to do. Just my opinion.

Anonymous said...

I'm not sure what show you watch but, they are NOT ill preemies. They had a minor cold or flu. These children have done amazingly well for being preemies and aren't hospitalized for their breathing issues just nebs at home.

Just because they LOOK healthy and fine doesnt mean they were.
Please remember that one of the Dilley Tups developed issues later on and two of the McCaugheys developed or got worse after they were past the G's age. Preemies always have to be watched.

What I find odd is the fact that the Tups DID have health issues. They required breathing treatments and Alexis and Collin required physical therapy which was FREE, Paid by Easter Seals.

They had lung issues yet Kate left them WITH THE FLU to get hair plugs for her subby love muffin. The Flu can easily progress to PNEUMONIA, which effects the lungs.

Curious? Why doesnt Kate ever thank Easter Seals or do any charity work for them?

IMHO said...

Birdie: thanks for you post about the McCoy septuplets! To the annon poster who mention the free yard and home, as far as I'm concerned, it doesn't bother me at all that her home and hard were free! Heck - give her a riding mower, a sprinkler system and fertilizer for free. Bobbie McCoy is the picture of grace, and she didn't turn those lovely children in a reality show ala Nick and Jess or Ozzie O - or Big Brother for that matter. Speaking engagements and love offerings? For what - so you can get your monthly pedicures, fancy date restaurants and a whole new wardrobe from The Gap??? Obviously, I am still a veiwer because it's a riot to watch kids be kids, but this show has gone out of control. It's "The Truman Show" with kids.

Anonymous said...

Therapists are ususally free if needed up until age 3. Then I believe a child is evaluated at age 3 to see if he/she will need further services.

Anonymous said...

It must be addresse that the kids di dnot have "colds" they were recovering from the flu, which can get worse even as kids appear to be getting better. And they left town for a vanity HAIR TRANSPLANT. It would have amore entertaining to watch Kate, ALONE, take care of sick kids. But we all know that would not have happened. She would have been too EXHAUSTED!

Jennifer said...

Just a thought... What is the possibility that J&K did know about Julie's blog and that was part of the reason behind them not allowing Jodi to watch the kids?

Juli herself said in the Q&A that J&K have never brought up the subject w/ Jodi. Who knows when they initially read it.

I'm not saying that J&K didn't cut her out for other reason too.. I just wonder if this may have been a part of it.

I'm not a perfect parent but I can say that if a family member was posting personal things about my family that I didn't want to be made public, I would most likely try and figure out a way to squash that. Cutting them out, for whatever reason, is a good way to do that.

Maybe Julie hasn't updated w/ any new news because she doesn't have any... Remember Jodi is cut off so how would Jodi know what is going on.

Serena said...

What is the possibility that J&K did know about Julie's blog and that was part of the reason behind them not allowing Jodi to watch the kids?

Nope. Julie's blog was started in response to the freezing out of Jodi.

Jennifer said...

This statement from Truth is what led me to question the possibility:

I didn’t want to make things any worse for Jodi, so we just waited to see what would happen with J&K. By the end of June, Jodi had only seen the kids once, and that was when Jon brought them up before they left for vacation in NC. During that visit, Jon mentioned the blogs that were online—said he didn’t care--and Kevin told him if he hadn’t read my blog, that he should. At that point, I had only made a few posts.

First she states she waited. Then she says Jodi watched the kids and that's when Kevin brought up Julie's blog. Julie states that she had already posted a few times. So, that is why I questioned it. Maybe Julie herself could clarify.

Serena said...

Jennifer OK I see what you are saying. And yes, Julie will have to clarify -- I just wanted to dispel any notion that things were just peachy between J&K and Jodi, and then Julie's blog came along and ruined it all. That is not at all what happened.

Serena said...

Administrative note: To the Anonymous poster who just submitted a rather lengthy, articulate post but ruined it by adding that last paragraph, let me clarify here why some people are not getting otherwise good comments published because they insist on adding stuff like this:

"If I could make one suggestion to you people it's this (and I've posted this before) take this "hatred" or, if you prefer "passion" and apply it to something in life that actually matters. I hope the people who post here are also this passionate about the political process and who is going to run the country. I hope you do as much research and investigation on the candidates for president as you do on the life of the Gosselins. I also hope that if you are so impassioned about children's rights that you actually DO something (other than posting an ad on a webpage) to help children in need."

We have covered this in the FAQ on our sidebar, but perhaps not all newcomers are reading that, so I'll reiterate it here.

This blog is an on-the-side activity for those of us running it. We have busy careers -- many of them in the field of child advocacy in one capacity or another. We are raising children, or have watched them leave the nest.

We do, in fact, apply our "passion" to "things that matter". Being involved in this blog does not prevent us from doing a lot of other things with our lives.

We do not have to choose between being involved with this blog and "having a life".

We do not have to choose between caring about the Gosselin children and caring about who to vote for President.

We are able to multi-task quite well.

Anonymous said...

I have no inside info, just a long time viewer with my kids. I can't believe that Jodi would have her sister post anything bad before she was grossly kicked off. You must be miss understanding it. Think of Jodi's actions on the show. She was always kind, loving, and very supportive of Jon and Kate. She watched the kids during the hair plug trip, half days every Friday, during the FL trip, the list goes on... That is one true, kind family member.

GreatLakesmom said...

Those sick bowls were most likely from the hospital as they are commonly given to new parents with the other items the nurses used on their infant in the nursery.

As for the Dionnes (they are brought up a lot here) weren't they taken away from their parents so they could be used as, well, a tourist attraction? I don't think they would have been raised that way if they were allowed to stay with their parents.

Although most disagree with JonandKate leaving the kids while sick (as i do) they did receive loving care from their wonderful aunt and uncle. Even if JonandKate didn't show appreciation for such a huge undertaking I'm sure the kids appreciated the extra care they were given. As a viewer I certainly appreciated the heartfelt generosity that Jodi and Kevin have given the family (and us as viewers for allowing us into their home). So Julie, if you are reading please send my regards (& my kids) to Jodi and Kevin. We miss them and hope they are well.

Anonymous said...

Why doesn't Kate get flu shots for her children? She says the whole family gets the flu every year. Is she too lazy (exhausted) to take them to the doctor?

Elisa said...

Long time lurker, but this entry got me thinking about something that I suppose has nagged at me for quite some time in regard to this show: These kids are sick a lot. I feel like every other show has someone who doesn't feel well or is plagued by a full-on illness. What is going on with this? Seriously, I'm not a parent, so I don't really have the experience on that front, but I grew up in a neighborhood with a lot of good Mormon families and went to Catholic school, so I had lots of friends with large numbers of kids (in fact, I think that I can only recall one friend of mine who, like me, had only one sibling) and I don't remember any of them having these pandemic problems that the Gosselins seem to have. I brought this up with my husband and he suggested that the lack of soap and water used in this house may have something to do with it. I thought about it and I think that this particular theory may have some creedence. Kate's insistance on a Purell-based existance may be getting her kids sick. It dries out the skin, which weakens the barriers to germs that healthy skin provides; also, I'm fairly certain that any doctor worth his/her salt will extol the virtues of 30 seconds of soapy lather under lukewarm water to keep things in order. If all these kids did was wash their hands after using the toilet and before eating, the household would probably be much healthier and we viewers wouldn't have to be subjected to six pukey kids once a month. Which, let's face it, makes for pretty lame television.

nomoredrama said...

These kids are sick a lot. I feel like every other show has someone who doesn't feel well or is plagued by a full-on illness. What is going on with this?

I'm sorry but children pass germs to one another. Anyone who works around large numbers of children know that they just pass disease on like it's nothing. I don't think that these kids are sick any more than other kids. If you have a house full of kids, if one gets sick the others are most likely to come down with it. Even if you use disinfectant, soap and water, kids do "gross" things. There isn't that much that anyone can do to control it.

Anonymous said...

I agree with you, these kids are sick too often. I am a mother and my daughter never got sick until she began school. They need to wash hands and use toilet paper!

The Truth Will Set You Free said...

Jennifer:This statement from Truth is what led me to question the possibility:

I didn’t want to make things any worse for Jodi, so we just waited to see what would happen with J&K. By the end of June, Jodi had only seen the kids once, and that was when Jon brought them up before they left for vacation in NC. During that visit, Jon mentioned the blogs that were online—said he didn’t care--and Kevin told him if he hadn’t read my blog, that he should. At that point, I had only made a few posts.

First she states she waited. Then she says Jodi watched the kids and that's when Kevin brought up Julie's blog. Julie states that she had already posted a few times. So, that is why I questioned it. Maybe Julie herself could clarify.

Answer: I didn't say Jodi watched the kids. I said Jon brought them up before they left for NC. He brought them up to say good-bye and he said they won't be seeing them this summer because they are too busy.

The decision was made back in April. I started the blog two months later--just to see if Jodi would still be involved in some way. I thought that even though she wouldn't be on camera, maybe she'd still get the see the kids when they weren't filming. Jodi knew all along that once she was out of the show--that would be it. She's been around long enough to know how it works with Kate. I guess I was trying to give her the benefit of the doubt. They do just live a few houses away from each other.

IMHO said...

To Truth/Julie: So, Jodi and Kevin and their 4 kids haven't seen their neices, nephews, cousins, all summer? The kids aren't allowed to just wander over to play? The twins are what, 9 now? 9 year olders can't walk down the street to their Aunt's house? And vice-versa? Maybe I have to many questions - sorry. But if these things are true, tell Jodi my heart breaks for her and her husband and I'm sure I'm not alone. I loved seeing them on the show. The relationship seemed so natural and familial. Apparently that was only one sided.

Anonymous said...

In regards to the comment about the Dionne quintuplets. Their father agreed to let the state take custody. He had his own stand at Quintland. At the age of 9, they were returned to their parents where they were exposed to even more exploitation and abuse.
Why this is not ringing a bell to TLC is beyond me.

GreatLakesmom said...

"In regards to the comment about the Dionne quintuplets. Their father agreed to let the state take custody. He had his own stand at Quintland. At the age of 9, they were returned to their parents where they were exposed to even more exploitation and abuse.
Why this is not ringing a bell to TLC is beyond me."

I wasn't quite sure on their situation so thanks for providing that information. You would think that TLC would look out for the happiness and well-being of the children as they are the reason for the show.

IMHO said...

As much as I do not like Kate, which is based, to be fair, just on what I see on TV on read online, I'm not ready to jump the snark and say she's an unfit mother. I can see the correlation between the side show act of the Dionne quints and profiting from this reality show, so I'm really wresting with this. But things like no flu shots, boys sitting down to pee or potty chairs outside, kids who can't get dirty, letting kids stay in cribs until you get up, trying to force a nap on kids that are not tired, greed and general rudeness to others - those are things I have seen in many Moms! I don't like them, but that doesn't mean they don't love their kids. I do, however, think this show is a big mistake - as much as I have loved watching those kids! It's just too much exposure, however, and I pray this is the last "season".

Liz said...

I wish the woukd cancel J&K plus 8 and give Kevin and Jodi their own show.

Anonymous said...

I too would like to see Kevin and Jodi have their own show. But they are decent people who would probably never expose their children to what their nephews and nieces have to go through. My thoughts and prayers are with them though, because you can tell they genuinely cared about these children. I can only imagine the void they and their children feel.

Anonymous said...

I agree with the comments about Jodi above. Jodi should get herself an agent and explore TV ideas. Not a reality show about her family, but maybe something about children or cooking. She said on the show she loves to bake. Maybe they could approach the Food Network. One thing people are always looking for is a "personality" with a following, people who will watch them. Jodi has that now. Remember all the emails from fans Jon said on the show he just deletes? (Don't even get me started about that!!!) Well, there you go, she already has fans.

GO JODI!!! WE WILL SUPPORT YOU AND WATCH!!! Maybe Kate's meaness was a blessing after all.

merryway said...

It always bothered me that Kate was able to get herself all the way to California to accompany Jon for his hair plugs, but while at home,couldn't manage to go with any of her boys on their special day out.

Anonymous said...

I think it would be fun if Jodi & Kevin could do a reality show about reality shows. Now that would be awesome - a real "kick in the teeth".

They truly deserve so much more for everything that they have done.

Anonymous said...

"Jodi should get herself an agent and explore TV ideas. Not a reality show about her family, but maybe something about children or cooking. She said on the show she loves to bake. Maybe they could approach the Food Network. One thing people are always looking for is a "personality" with a following, people who will watch them. Jodi has that now."
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Jodi, with her definite appeal on so many levels, would be great for her own show. Jodi is so committed to her family, so she may not want to do it full time, but maybe a show or two every couple of months. She's sweet, cute, and has a great personality.

Anonymous said...

Why doesn't Kate do any "charity" work, you ask?
Ah yes--I can see her now, working away at an organic lollipop factory, making sure that every pop was made with free range sweetener and natural colors.
It's the only way to go.

Anonymous said...

"It always bothered me that Kate was able to get herself all the way to California to accompany Jon for his hair plugs, but while at home,couldn't manage to go with any of her boys on their special day out."

Word to that! Kate seemed to at least tolerate her boys when they were still babies - maybe they weren't icky, gross and disgusting yet - but as they have gotten older she clearly treats them as second class citizens.

If Kate can overcome the "worst headache of my existence" to go to the spa and leave her sick kids to go to California with Jon, I have no doubt she will find a way to do whatever she wants to do.

Kate is all about doing what Kate wants to do and her children are the pawns she uses to get these things for herself. Jon is along for the ride, does not protect his children from the shrew, and is no better than Kate

Anonymous said...

Well, now I can't find the comment about them going to the Cornerstone Christian Felowship Church in September for a speaking engagement. The pastor says on the church website that they will take up a love offering for the Gosselins. I went to his web page: familypastor.blogspot.com and politely told him that although it's probably too late, I wanted to let him know that because of their show and speaking engagments, they don't need love offerings, although everyone should be able to give as they feel is right, I realize. But I mentioned that his church members have monthly budgets to think of, too. Also, just a note about travel with the kids: The church is almost two hours (Abington, PA) from the Gosselins' house in Elizabethtown, PA.

Anonymous said...

In regards to Jodi having a show-
she seems to be very creative. Her home is decorated beautifully and she seems very artsy/crafty!

I'd love for her to share some of her knowhow/ideas on TV or in decorating magazines.

Maybe when Baby Benny gets to school she might think of doing something like this!

Anonymous said...

Someone commented that Kate didnt bother to go with the boys on their special days out. She didn't bother to attend despite the fact she talked constantly about how they wanted to be 1 on 1 with each child.
The boys are much lower on her totem pole and seem to merit little to none of her precious time.
Her treatment of the boys bothers me more than anything else she does or doesn't do.

Anonymous said...

As far as Kate's charity work goes. the family received at least 6 matchinig upscale cribs when the tups were born, strollers for multiples, etc. There are old Internet links in which the KONS thank the donors and promise to donate these items to others at a later date.
Yet the KONS let it slip on one of the episodes that they had sold the cribs at a garage sale.
They have also mentioned they take items to a consignment shop. Supposedly she takes the donated clothes from Gap and Gymboree and sells them.

I don't think the KONS are involved in any active or passive charity work, other than for their own benefit. If they accept donations and turn around and sell the items for profit, they don't seem too worried about helping the less fortunate.

Anonymous said...

What bothered me about Cupcakegate other than the obvious favortism toward the girls was how she said the next day the boys totally forgot about it. I understand that they are only 4 but I find this hard to believe. Just like when they take all of them out on trips and they claim they talk about it for weeks. For once, I would like to hear this come out of their mouths, not Kon's.

I have come up with a basic assessment of Kate overtime.
Kate doesn't do baths, Kate doesn't do laundry, Kate doesn't do gas, Kate doesn't drive long distances. Kate doesn't do messes. Kate doesn't change clothes. Kate doesn't do family. Kate doesn't do mornings and on and on and on. Can someone please explain why this woman is considered to be "Supermom."

Anonymous said...

Kate doesn't do baths, Kate doesn't do laundry, Kate doesn't do gas, Kate doesn't drive long distances. Kate doesn't do messes. Kate doesn't change clothes. Kate doesn't do family. Kate doesn't do mornings and on and on and on. Can someone please explain why this woman is considered to be "Supermom."
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Is this too long to be nominated for quote of the week? :)

I think Jodi should get a cooking with kids show! That would be perfect for her. If that would be something she was interested in, of course.

Anonymous said...

Kate doesn't do baths, Kate doesn't do laundry, Kate doesn't do gas, Kate doesn't drive long distances. Kate doesn't do messes. Kate doesn't change clothes. Kate doesn't do family. Kate doesn't do mornings and on and on and on. Can someone please explain why this woman is considered to be "Supermom."
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Is this too long to be nominated for quote of the week? :)
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Serena, Please enter this one into the nominations! It's perfect!

Serena said...

Serena, Please enter this one into the nominations! It's perfect!

Done, thanks!

Anonymous said...

In respone to:
"For once, I would like to hear this come out of their mouths, not Kon's."
I too, would like to hear the children speak for themselves and not the J & K spin version.
The J & K couch confessionals have become almost unbearable to watch with the 'we decided to' and step by step narration of events. However, I suppose if the children did the actual speaking and explaining that would be considered 'work'. TLC producers dont want to give viewers the impression that the children are 'working'. It is a REALITY show after all.

Nancy said...

"I don't think the KONS are involved in any active or passive charity work, other than for their own benefit. If they accept donations and turn around and sell the items for profit, they don't seem too worried about helping the less fortunate."

Oh, but Kate is helping the less fortunate by donating the (free) clothes to a consignment shop, so the poor folks can afford to buy nice things. See? Kate is indeed a thoughtful and generous person.
NOT.

Anonymous said...

I have come up with a basic assessment of Kate overtime.
Kate doesn't do baths, Kate doesn't do laundry, Kate doesn't do gas, Kate doesn't drive long distances. Kate doesn't do messes. Kate doesn't change clothes. Kate doesn't do family. Kate doesn't do mornings and on and on and on. Can someone please explain why this woman is considered to be "Supermom."

***You forgot to add that Kate doesn't make beds.***

Anonymous said...

Oh God. I finally agree with the naysayers. I love the show and think there's a lot of value to what they're doing. But that hair-plug episode ... I couldn't BELIEVE that they left their sick kids for stupid hair plugs. It was downright gross. I'm starting to really see through Kate. I thought she was a cool person — a nut who realized she was a nut.

When people insinuated that she was lazy and did DO anything, I thought, "Hmm. She's the CEO of the family. People always think the CEO doesn't do anything." But now I have to agree. What the heck does she do?

hollie22 said...

AMEN! Well, I was upset about the tummy tuck. I have a 2 year old and I couldn't imagine having a major procedure like a tummy tuck with such young children. Kate bitches and moans about not being able to do things out of fear of being "out of commission". No problem having a tummy tuck and risking horrible infections, puncture of the bowel or death. Not to mention the time away from your children. How heartbreaking, imagine if something bad would have happened to one of the kids- and she isn't there due to pure vanity. I choose to stay home instead of going out ( i'm 22 ) because I love my son so much and I have fun at home, I don't need to sow wild oats. Unlike Jon and Kate, who leave their children all over and travel constantly. Sad thing is now they don't even have Jodi to watch the children, just random hired help.

dsw said...

They lost me when Aunt Jodi and Beth were kicked to the curb!!!What an evil woman to treat folks that way who have been so good to you and your family. God bless those kids.