"They Are Doing the Best They Can"

I am so sick of reading this statement over and over again by Jon & Kate worshippers. What exactly is it THEY are doing that is so admirable? This is not a normal family anymore. As far as I'm concerned, they can stop insulting our intelligence in the hopes we'll fall for that one. Jon and Kate can tell us over an over again how normal they are, but anyone with half a brain can see right through that one.

They have several helpers. Kate can't even do her own laundry, she has to get help folding it and putting it away. She has babysitters and nannies, most of which we don't see but we know they're there. They are away several weekends a year and the children are pawned off on friends or relatives. This is "doing the best they can?" All they're doing is running around with their hands out. Whether it be love offerings from unsuspecting Christians, or free merchandise/trips from corporate America and fans, their hands are out ready to take whatever is thrown their way. They put themselves out there as charity cases and it's despicable.

Wake up people! This is not an example one should be setting for their children. Life ain't a free ride. Values and morals need to be taught. When is it time to give back and will they ever? All I see is take, take, take. If this is "doing the best they can" then they should be ashamed of themselves.

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Lu.

48 comments:

Anonymous said...

If Jon & Kate are making a mistake in how they choose to live their lives, then they and their children will reap what they have sown. They can only blame themselves. I for one will continue to watch because I enjoy the show.

iluveeyore said...

All I can see is that Jon is "doing the best he can" being "self employed."

He seems to run to the bank every day (have to stash it away), goes to the gym to be with his fuzzy bunny, and golfs. And golfs. And golfs. He even manages to describe playing golf as "interacting with the boys."

Kate is "doing the best she can" keeping a sharp eye out for clothing and comforter stains. She is flabbergasted when she has a good time with the kids! Ooops... I meant having a good time with the GIRLS. Lord knows, boys are icky.

Anonymous said...

This is one odd situation, to be sure. A young, newly wed couple go right to assisted reproductive technology, have twins, and then she pressures for more. In a move almost calculated to produce a little, they--gasp--produce a litter, although they have do not have the income to provide for said multiples. They then take their show on the road, complete with studio lighting in their home, to provide for these kids. Neither parent holds a job; the kids are the job. The wife acts like a shrew on camera and the husband comes across as a spineless dunce. The young kids are filmed in their most intimate moments. The gravy train rolls on with perks most people never dream of--matching outfits, fancy trips, plastic surgery--all courtesy of the private lives of small children. The rallying cry is more, more, more. Extended family--well, they seem to be outside the golden sphere. This family is the saddest thing on TV. At least their reality show counterparts seem to get the irony of life in the virtual world. These people expect to be taken seriously no matter what they do. These parents are beyond contempt.

Anonymous said...

Here's what I'd like to know: Who was their fertility doctor and why did he or she allow them to go straight to the treatments??? They got married in summer 1999 and in Feb. 2000, they were banging on the doctor's door. And then, the twins were born in October 2000. This is contradictory to everything I have ever heard re infertility. What about at least a year of tests and trying by themselves? And this polycystic ovarian syndrome - I'm no medical professional, but K does not exhibit one single feature of POS. Frankly, I think she has Munchausen's syndrome by proxy, if she's got any syndrome at all. Go to Wikipedia for details on MSbP and see!
She was a labor and delivery nurse prior to the twins - she was obsessed with giving birth even back then. What do people think?

FIONA said...

If Jon & Kate are making a mistake in how they choose to live their lives, then they and their children will reap what they have sown.

Why should the Gosselin kid get screwed out of a normal life, because their parents are swinling baffoos? That' not right....and the kids aren't even getting any money from the deal. I would feel alot better knowing that someone was advocating for the kid and that their share of the proceeds that the kids are indeed EARNING be held in trust, so at laest they have something when this train crashes. The kids should have the same right as any other child actor.

FIONA said...

I have always thought something was fishy....or rather dishonest about this fertility situation. Maybe she got the drugs unscrouspously...Mexico, the internet, a "favor"....but there is something to be said about a woman who has sex knowing she has overstimulated ovaries after being advised by the doctor to wait. She may not have expected or wanted 6, but she wanted more than 1. Thank God they are all physically healthy.

Anonymous said...

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Here is one thing that gets to me. On "Jon and Kate's Day" when they got their teeth whitened and went out to dinner, Jon starts talking about how what a treat it is for them to get to go out to dinner alone. Normal people would think, yes, that is a treat since you have 8 kids and probably can't afford to go out much, or you can't get a babysitter to go out to eat very often. NO, Jon goes on to say that the reason they don't go out to eat alone very often is because they are always with another couple or at a business meeting!! It doesn't sound to me like they are hurting for anything and have no qualms about leaving the kids home ALOT without them, and imposing on ALOT of people to take care of the kids while they go schmooze. I can't wait until they have to get a real job and get back into the real world.

my3girls said...

I continue to waver on my opinions of J&K. In terms of their parenting, we only see snippets of their day and we don't live in their shoes, so I'm not sure its fair for us to judge their parenting methods. I agree with the person who wrote that things could be a lot worse for these kids. Their basic needs are being met and they seem to enjoy spending time with their parents (even if it is too little!)

On the other hand, I also agree with the topic of exploitation and I do believe these children are being exploited for financial gain. Specifically... Kate always says that she wants her children to have a "normal" life.

To that end... why aren't these children in preschool!!!???? To me, the fact that they aren't in any kind of preschool... even two days a week brought the issue of exploitation home. Clearly, if the tups were at school, there would be fewer episodes of J&K. So, even putting aside the issue of cameras in their face all day, at 4 years old, they need to begin a real socialization process and that can only truly happen in some kind of school setting. I think that is one place where J&K are doing their children a huge disservice. Playing with your siblings all day is not the same as learning how to work/share, etc. with others.

Isabella said...

I was really saddened when I first came across this blog.

I don't understand how people can devote so much of their time to criticizing a family they don't even know. It's just really disturbing and depressing to me. Here is a tight-knit, loving family, and all you can do is point out the negativity. Nowadays in America, a close family is not all that common anymore .. we should be applauding them for being a family, not bashing them. And all parents have their flaws - no one is perfect! But these parents don't just have two or three kids to manage, but eight! By ignoring what they're doing right and focusing on only what they're doing wrong, you are bathing Jon and Kate in an extremely biased and incorrect light. They have never had the opportunity to learn how to parent a single child, like many other families in America.

Furthermore, viewers don't know much about Jon and Kate's parents. Kate seems to be estranged from her's, and none of the grandparents are actively involved. J&K don't have the support and guidance from their parents, so take that into account. We don't know about their relationships with their parents exactly or how they came to be like that - so Jon and Kate are on their own without any parental advice.

You claim to be parents and grandparents. Shouldn't you be spending your time bettering YOUR parenting skills rather than analyzing and criticizing the skills of others?

Do any of you have eight children close in age? Do you? If you don't, then I don't see how you can judge them. You cannot accurately judge these parents until you are in their shoes. You cannot possibly know what their lives are like unless you can directly relate, no matter what you say. There is no excuse.

And to those of you that criticize Jon and Kate for spending time away from their children - in case you didn't notice, their lives revolve around their EIGHT children. But Jon and Kate are still a couple, and their relationship will disintegrate unless they have their alone bonding time. Otherwise, they are just two married people parenting eight children together. It is wrong to believe that no parent ever deserves a break from their children.

I'm not looking to start any arguments here, because I do understand how credible the opinions are of those who post here (parents themselves, I mean), but I just wanted to throw in my thoughts. Please don't delete this comment.

Steph said...

It may be difficult for Jon to find a job in the current economy. Kate can always find a nursing job, but I don't believe Jon has a degree or real education for IT.

He was working for a hotel when they met, was working in retail when the twins were born, not sure what job he held when Kate got pregnant with the tups, but he was unemployed when they were born and for awhile afterwards. Then he got a state job and quit that.

Employers can be very picky now, and there are plenty of fresh college grads who can take the IT jobs. Many people are patching together part time jobs right now.

I hope they are banking a substantial amount of the money they are making now, because Kate doesn't want to return to nursing, and Jon is not exactly motivated. Organic is expensive and a luxury with gas prices, electricity and heat, etc. Once they have to pay their own bills again, they are in for a shock.

Anonymous said...

Frankly, I think she has Munchausen's syndrome by proxy, if she's got any syndrome at all.

I have seen no evidence she is poisoning her children or making them physically sick (besides leaving them but there is no way that would be construed as MBP). I think this is a very irresponsible and dangerous accusation. I hate that I felt the need to defend her but come on...

FIONA said...

And to those of you that criticize Jon and Kate for spending time away from their children - in case you didn't notice, their lives revolve around their EIGHT children

Actually, their business, their actual jobs-ARE their children. So, you statement might be more accuratly stated, the children's lives ARE the parent's business. Thus the real reason the parent's are away from the kids.

FIONA said...

It's just really disturbing and depressing to me.

The show really disturbs me, and many others who write on this blog. I think the agenda is very clear. We are not haters, jealous or mean men and women. We all have our own life, jobs, and different causes. The Gosselin's are one part of our life. We choose to advocate and make public the life of child reality stars. We want them to be protected and paid. Their parent's are not looking out for their bet interests, so we are trying to instigate a change. Hope that clears it up...

FIONA said...

By ignoring what they're doing right and focusing on only what they're doing wrong

Will you list for us, if you choose, what they are doing right as far as being good, concerned parents?

I certainly don't mind seeing any good things and would welcome your observations.

Anonymous said...

my3girls said... why aren't these children in preschool!!!????

My3, I would never defend Kate, but I have been reading a lot of people complaining that the kids are not in preschool. I guess I don't get it, my kids didn't go to preschool and they turned out just fine. I don't know any SAHM's who have sent their kids to preschool either. I'm guessing that preschool is bigger in some areas or states than others.

Now back to snarking, Kate mentioned once that she was going to do preschool with the tups at home, although we never see her really doing any projects with the kids, she has even said she isn't creative enough to think of things to do. It didn't occur to me at the time that she was thinking...if I send them to preschool, we won't have them here as much to film and less shows mean less money.

Anonymous said...

When I suggested she may have Munchausen's Syndrome by Proxy, I did not mean literally. Of course she is not giving poison to her children - I did not mean that. What I do mean is that her behavior/attitude is very akin to a mother who does have it in that she uses her children in a pathological and psychologically damaging (to them) way to gain huge attention for herself. It's the psychological/emotional version of the syndrome. I think it's a good analogy.

iluveeyore said...

I was a SAHM and both of my kids went to pre-school. It was an excellent way to get them to play with other kids and to learn how to get along in the world. They both went to Ivy League colleges also. They absolutely loved pre-school.

If Kate is "not creative enough" to think of projects to do with the kids, perhaps someone could donate one of the zillions of books about children's projects. Oh... wait... Kate doesn't have time to read a book!

As for Munchausen's Syndrome by Proxy, I think Kate is a sterling example. You don't have to poison your kids. All you have to do is USE your kids to draw attention to yourself. I rest my case.

Anonymous said...

Yes, thank you - you got exactly what I meant by MSbP.

Anonymous said...

With Kate being a nurse and working in labor and delivery - is it possible she got her hands on Pergonal (one of THE MOST powerful fertility drugs around) and injected herself? It it said that she was on Clomid and had IUI - but for some reason I have a nagging suspicion that she did some of her own biomedical engineering. I mean, what doctor would give her fertility drugs after they had only been married for just over six months? Would a doctor just hand out the Clomid and do an IUI and not tell them to keep trying for at least a year first?? This is just something I have been thinking about for a while. Kate is just so crazy that it could be a possibility...

FIONA said...

Yea, I got your example....

I betcha, I betcha, the tups DON'T go to pre school next fall, so they can keep filming. But there will be made up an excuse as to why.

I wouldnt be surprised if someone is hired to come in and teach at home, because clearly Kate could NOT do it.

Anonymous said...

In the Crayola Factory episode, as they are sitting the kids down to eat lunch, Kate goes on and on how the trip to the Crayola Factory is perfectly timed because the little ones are at an age where they are really starting to enjoy doing projects. Fast forward to where they are actually in the Crayola Factory being exposed to and participating in project making. Suddenly Kate's claim of the little one's love of project making plumments in to a down ward spiral of panic and anxiety on the part of Kate thus removing any ability for any of the children to actually enjoy the activity at hand. J & K both blamed everything from crankiness to 'pleading 8' for the reasons why they could not enjoy their vist to the Crayola Factory when it was clearly obvious throughout the entire episode that KATE herself was to blame for all the drama and chaos that ensued that day !

iluveeyore said...

From my observations, it seems that Kate is always to blame for the drama and chaos that ensues in this family. "Pick a color." "I don't want to see any stains on your clothes." "She's ruined!" They can't eat candy, roll on the grass, or use markers. The kids are unnaturally terrified of getting dirty...

I just saw an ad for a fantastic "playground" from Costco. Four swings, two slides, a tower to climb to and play on. It is $1,500 delivered and assembled. Tell me that Jon and Kate can't afford that for 8 kids! And if they can't afford it, TLC or Figure 8 surely can.

Think of all the film footage they could get without even leaving the property. Kate could put her white plastic chair out on the back lawn -- or even sit herself down on the deck! They wouldn't even have to strap the kids into the truck and go to a "park."

I'll bet the kids are getting sick of riding bicycles in circles around the driveway. I know I'm getting sick of watching them.

Anonymous said...

Iluveeyore, if we say that we are bored watching the kids in the driveway, we can expect an episode where they all set off in a hot air balloon (potties sloshing and Kate screaming) and get dropped in the Grand Canyon to fend off the wildlife as they try to hike out. (Or is that Man vs. Wild?) It's all about making memories, after all, and we all know that that's just not possible in the comfort of one's own home.

Anonymous said...

That has been my guess all along that Kate will not send her tups off to pre school but have another set of hired hands to come in their home and provide for their pre schooling. That way she can sleep in, have Jon get the tups up and ready at pre school. Only after a significant amount of sleep and her morning coffee, will she engage herself by standing over the pre school teacher making sure the tups are NOT using washable markers and paints and are equipped with their bibs and sippy cups at all times. As episodes progress, it is clearly obvious that Kate in her phobia, anxiety, and panic obssessed way makes every attempt to keep the tups from engaging in anything where the stimulation, interaction, or socializing of other children is involved.

SmartyQ said...

In the Crayola Factory episode, as they are sitting the kids down to eat lunch, Kate goes on and on how the trip to the Crayola Factory is perfectly timed because the little ones are at an age where they are really starting to enjoy doing projects. Fast forward to where they are actually in the Crayola Factory being exposed to and participating in project making. Suddenly Kate's claim of the little one's love of project making plumments in to a down ward spiral of panic and anxiety on the part of Kate thus removing any ability for any of the children to actually enjoy the activity at hand.

Yet, the tups were waving scissors around—sitting close to each other and waving scissors! Kate was peepless over that.

Anonymous said...

Now that the tups have turned four and the twins will be eight in October - the shows will have to be more and more contrived and scripted. Just look at the upcoming episode list noted on this site. Who would bring kids to a bakery to decorate their birthday cupcakes? That's insane! And as for Jon cooking Korean - that's those TLC producers at work. And what average kids get to visit Sesame Street??? These kids are really moving into J and K mandated professional acting careers. No more just hanging out at home doing what they do and the cameras film it. I can just hear Kate saying, "NO! You can't play in the driveway now! You have to go to the bakery and you MUST SHOW you're having a good time!!!"
My heart goes out to little Mady. I really think she is suffering. Her acting-out behavior is a symptom of her pain and unhappiness. These kids are not loved and respected and nurtured... It's very disturbing.

Maggie said...

Who said they were married for six months before they started fertility treatments?

They were married in what June or July, and having treatments in October? At most that is 4 months and more likely 3. What doctor does that? Sorry I do know, Dr. I.M. Quack.

Anonymous said...

I think anyone has a right to criticize the Gosselin's. They brought it upon themselves by making their lives so public...

They don't have the support of grandparents because the parent's have cut the grandparents out of the children's lives...and other relatives so it seems.

Anonymous said...

Slowly but surely, Kate has cut people out of the lives of her children. Her parents, Kenton and Charlene, got the axe when the tups were infants because Kenton's church (where he is the pastor)did not provide what Kate wanted in the form of donations. The church members put an addition on their house; provided hands to help taking care of the eight, and wanted to donate gently-used baby clothes and items. Kate only wanted NEW, MATCHING items. Then, she demanded CASH! When her Dad could not do that, she disowned both of them. Charlene and Kenton were the ones who took care of Cara and Mady when K was in the hospital all that time! And now, Aunt Jodi will probably be banned from the kids at any time. How many more (that we do not know)have gotten or will get the axe? She better not burn her bridges so badly - when their scam is finally over, some karma may come their way and they may need help from people that money cannot by. Not to mention the trauma of people the kids are attached to suddenly gone without explanation.

Anonymous said...

Kate has said something to the effect that the grandparents aren't in their lives because they (grandparents) didn't know how to help us. In what universe does that make any sense? Babysitting twins isn't help? It's to the grandparents' credit that they haven't disowned J&K publicly. I suspect they cling to the hope that they may have a relationship with the grandkids some day. Perhaps when the gravy train comes to a screeching halt and Kate needs favors again, she will give them another chance to prove that they can help. Thank you, Kate. Thank you, Kate. And why did Jon go along with this? Rhetorical question, I know.

Anonymous said...

And what average kids get to visit Sesame Street???

When I read the episode summary I thought about Sesame Place, the amusement park. We live a few hours from J & K's area and are very familiar with the attractions they've gone to--Hershey, Lancaster, Strasberg Railroad, etc. Sesame Place would be like driving to the Crayola Factory for them. We took our daughter there several times when she was younger and I said to her that I was surprised they hadn't gone there yet. The characters walk around, give shows, a parade and there is a set with "Elmo's World."

FIONA said...

IF tickets have not yet been donated, then that is why they haven't gone. The g's don't PAY for their amusement, it gets donated!

iluveeyore said...

ek said...
I'd like to see you do better!

I am so sick of all the Kate apologists saying they'd like to see her criticizers "do better" than she is.

I live in Utah, so I'm surrounded by families with 14 kids. And while I don't necessarily personally agree with having 14 kids to "multiply and replenish the Earth", I see many more parents doing a MUCH better job with all their kids than J&K.

Surprisingly, it's not *that* difficult to not scream and overreact every time you don't feel you're getting your share of attention. It's pretty commonplace to treat your spouse like a partner and not an extension of your "Things I Gotta Do" list, or, worse, belittle them like a child.

So, yes, I don't have 8 kids and never will, but I have seen *plenty* of other people do a much better job than these people, without resorting to pimping their kids out on TV and remaining gainfully employed.

July 5, 2008 12:22 PM

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iluveeyore said...

Anonymous said...
Someone asked what the good things are that Kate and Jon are doing for their family. Although this blog has opened my eyes to things I hadn't before pondered (love offerings, freebies, time away from their kids multiple weekends a year, Jon's questionable employment), I feel that there ARE good things being done on behalf of the kids.

These include: holidays made special through extra effort on behalf of Jon and Kate (Valentines Day, birthdays), an established routine each day they are home, special outings (parks, vacations) attempted regardless of how difficult this may be, cooking classes for the girls, and special days for each child to spend with their parents.

To be fair, I know that many of these vacations and outings are financed by someone else (the network, companies, etc.) I also agree that both Jon and Kate should have accompanied ALL the kids on their special days (not just the girls - weird).

BUT, they are doing some things right and I think that should be acknowledged. Just my 2 cents :)

July 5, 2008 1:37 PM

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Anonymous said...

One way to deal with this disturbing exhibition of greed is to ignore the companies and products that are so openly placed in this show. I do. I can't see giving my money to businesses that do not express my values, and avarice and child labor aren't on that list.

Anonymous said...

I totally agree with a previous post suggesting the power in viewer boycotting and ignoring of the product placement advertisers of this show. The 'reality show', Work Out, on Bravo network recently felt the wrath of how advertisers are quick to pull their product placement due to viewer feedback. IMO, it wont be long before such products as Johnson and Johnson will no longer utilize J & K + 8 as an advertising forum for their products. Even in the more recent episodes, I have noticed that the infamous bottle of Juicey Juice has been absent and we merely see an ambiguous container of 'juice' void of a brand name. There is also alot more obvious brand name blurring in the more recent episodes. Product placement on these types of reality shows can be a double edged sword for advertisers as most times the viewing audience associates the featured product with that of the people/ persons on the show. There are many people, ie. consumers that have a very negative opinion about J & K and the terms and conditions for which they acquired their reality show. Although individuals that hate the show may still watch, they are also consumers and have far more power over the advertisers than they do J & K by boycotting products advertised on the show. Im not referring to businesses such as hair transplant, teeth whitening, private fitness instructor. To the typical American family, those are luxery items and not essentials. Within the context of my post, I am specifically referring to the major brand name corporations.

sabrinasmom said...

Sorry to be vague - but I read somewhere that Kate's Mother said she used her "influence" or insider information at the hospital she was working at to get the fertility treatments. BTW - I found Kate's Mom's info as well and she looks quite "normal" - not the crackpots Kate paints them as (rigid, etc).

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Slowly but surely, Kate has cut people out of the lives of her children. Her parents, Kenton and Charlene, got the axe when the tups were infants because Kenton's church (where he is the pastor)did not provide what Kate wanted in the form of donations. The church members put an addition on their house; provided hands to help taking care of the eight, and wanted to donate gently-used baby clothes and items. Kate only wanted NEW, MATCHING items.


I've always wondered what happened to the gps. At first I thought they were meanies that abandoned their own kids with 8 small babies. then when I saw more of Kate's shenanigans, I suspected she ran them off. The woman is unbelievable.

Anonymous said...

There's hope, people. If the product placements dry up, the shows get more staged, and the kids all go to school--as they someday must, this show will end. I can just see Kate sitting on the basement sofa wondering what happened to the lights, cameras, and the people who love them. Hopefully for her, Monkey Munch, the movie, will be out by then. What will Jon and Kate do without kids to support them?

Anonymous said...

I too think Kate must have "helped herself" with the fertility treatments. My cousin & his wife have been married for 10yrs & have been actively trying to concieve for 4yrs without asking a dr. They finally went to a fertility specialist last year & even thought they had been trying for 4 yrs, since they werent being seen by a specialist or even had any tests done by her reg gyn they had to wait a yr to get any assistance. I have never heard of anyone getting help that soon & I know alot of people that had to have help.
I love the show, but since finding this & Jodi's sisters blog I'm not sure I should be watching. I was never a big fan of Kate's & wish Jon would stand up for himself. I have always thought that since Kate seems to be running things & Jon seems to be more nurturing to the kids that maybe she is using the kids against Jon. She seems the type to tell him It's my way or the highway, could you imagine the child support he would have to pay while she continues with the show on her own as a "poor single mom who's husband left her & her 8 kids"! Not that Jon is innocent, I just dont see him as bad as Kate.

Anonymous said...

I just read this thread on Oprah's message board about the Gosselins appearance . What I find strange is all teh posts that criticize oprah for only showing then for 15 minutes and for NOT GIVING THEM FREEBIES!!

I find it highly suspicious. I wonder if Jon wrote those... who else would care??

http://www.oprah.com/community/thread/22561

FIONA said...

Anonymous said...
Someone asked what the good things are that Kate and Jon are doing for their family. Although this blog has opened my eyes to things I hadn't before pondered (love offerings, freebies, time away from their kids multiple weekends a year, Jon's questionable employment), I feel that there ARE good things being done on behalf of the kids.

These include: holidays made special through extra effort on behalf of Jon and Kate (Valentines Day, birthdays), an established routine each day they are home, special outings (parks, vacations) attempted regardless of how difficult this may be, cooking classes for the girls, and special days for each child to spend with their parents.

To be fair, I know that many of these vacations and outings are financed by someone else (the network, companies, etc.) I also agree that both Jon and Kate should have accompanied ALL the kids on their special days (not just the girls - weird).

BUT, they are doing some things right and I think that should be acknowledged. Just my 2 cents :)


I see NO REAL effort from either parent, ever. Everything they undertake is done with disdain, comlaining and whining, in which the children are listening too.

I don't see any of Kate's traditions filled with LOVE, but things.

The routine the kids follow has everything to do with what makes things easier for KATE...not the kids. For instance the napping...the kids are too old to nap, but Kate wants them out of her sight so SHE can nap. Alexis sleeping in the basement....easier for Kate. Bedtime ritual...Kate has nothing to do with that....easier for Kate. See the trend yet???

Holiday with NO family...yea, that's good for the kids...NOT!!!

ONE SPECIAL DAY A FREAKIN' YEAR JON AND KATE SPEND WITH EACH CHILD ALONE....This is the most pathetic of all. Out of 365 days, this is all Jon and Kate can spare????? Bullshit!!! It is all they CARE to spare!!!!

Sorry, but it really is impossible to come up with ANY good things. But at least you tried.

Sad, heart breaking reality that the Gosselin kids live in.

What I still don't understand, is why did Kate ever want kids if she didn't want to be a Mom?

Anonymous said...

I honestly don't understand why the hell Kate ever had kids either. She simply cannot handle them without all the perks and freebies she's been given, not to mention now having her husband home full time. In her case, selective reduction would have been her best choice, IMO.

As far as Kate and her stupid tradtions, I'll never understand her angle with that. She was such a dork on the Valentine's Day episode. That was completely staged because doesn't have time for that BS. When she was hiding that box for the scavenger hunt she called it a "big box of love." Are you freakin' kidding me? Where does she come up with this shit? The only one getting any love in that house is precious Hannie.

Anonymous said...

Re Fertility Treatments:

What Nurse, a labour and delivery nurse for that matter, who has taken fertility treatments in the past to conceive and wound up with twins would think that...'oh if I take MORE fertility drugs I can have just ONE more'.....I mean come on puh-leez....And what fertility doctor wouldn't warn them that if they take the fertility drugs again to conceive there is a greater chance of multiples then the first time???? Even I know this and I don't have any kids at this point....

Anonymous said...

Re the Wikipedia article. Jon and Kate had twins because they loved children so much that they knew that they could never share just one! Be still my heart. Now they have six more to fight over.

snixxy said...

I just wanted to add personal insight to the comments about Kate's PCOS & infertility....no she doesn't look like the norm of having PCOS. I don't either but I do have it. In fact I really don't have any outward symptoms other than irregular cycles. Some people with PCOS don't have cycles at all making it virtually impossible to get pregnant. I think that waiting a year for fertility treatments is somewhat outdated especially if you have a PCOS diagnosis. If you have PCOS chances are you will need assistance getting pregnant. What I don't understand is why any credible doctor would not have canceled her cycle if she was overstimulating - which obviously that was the case given the sextuplets.

Anonymous said...

MUNCHAUSEN BY PROXY (MBP) (also called Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy, Munchausen by Proxy Syndrome, and Factitious Disorder by Proxy) is a label for a pattern of behavior in which caretakers deliberately exaggerate and/or fabricate and/or induce physical and/or psychological-behavioral-mental health problems in others.

http://www.mbpexpert.com/definition.html

Anonymous said...

A previous poster said:
Re the Wikipedia article. Jon and Kate had twins because they loved children so much that they knew that they could never share just one!

Quite a different story that Jon tells of when they met he 'never wanted to get married or have kids'. How do parents 'have' twins because they dont have the ability to share just one child? I can understand 'having' twins as a result of natural or artificial means. But only within the J & K logic would the 'we could never share just one' even remotely make any sense!