These Sorority Sisters See Through It All

I have never posted but I felt compelled to write this after reading this blog for several weeks.

I came across Jon and Kate plus 8 during a late night after studying in college. What started as mere curiosity quickly became my favorite show. I got so hooked that I started to make my roomate watch and slowly I had the entire sorority house of 35 girls tuning in.

What we saw as a nice family has quickly turned into a trainwreck. My main problem with the show is their new found love of money. While I think the lengths these two will go to to earn a dollar is disgusting, more than anything I am disgusted by the message they are sending to their children. They are teaching eight little ones that self responsibility and a strong work ethic is not important. That they are entitled and that hard working people should support them. Instead of providing for his family like most men, Jon is content to ride the gravy train.

This to me is the most disturbing because if J&K continue on this path, they will do their kids a great injustice. They are showing their kids that it is not an individual responsibilty to provide for yourself through hard work and education, but instead that others should support you. The most important message and gift my parents every gave me was to show me how hard they worked and how important education was. I really hope that instead of sending the message that we should get something for nothing because we are special, they will try to teach these kids how fortunate they are that they have the opportunities to go to private school and college -- something they could not do.

While I doubt this will be the message, I hope that when the gravy train ends the kids will realize that Daddy not having a job was a huge mistake. Maybe when they are older, the eight will become disgusted by their parents' willingness to do anything for the almighty dollar. I hope in ten years we hear that these kids are in college fighting for other exploited children. Wouldn't that be ironic? Until then I have been forced to turn all of my sorority sisters onto this blog and try to show them that are love of everything Gosselin is really just a sham.

I want to add a thank you to Jodi's sister for speaking out. I only hope that your courage will inspire others to do the same and that I love your sister and know how important aunts and extended family can be!

Blog entry created from a comment left by Sorority Sister.

26 comments:

Maggie said...

I think you made some good points. I don't know how the children will have any sense of a work ethic when all they have known is their parents living off them.

Jon and Kate are so worried about the supposed lack of a college fund (that does exist), why are they worried? They didn't graduate from college and their scamming is working out nicely.

Sadly, the children will probably not be able to parlay the fact of their births into a job for life, unless they write the tell-all on the parents. First one to the post wins.

Anonymous said...

I keep reading that Jon did not go to college, but I remember him mentioning his college days.

Does anyone know the deal? Thanks!

Serena said...

I keep reading that Jon did not go to college, but I remember him mentioning his college days.

He didn't complete college or earn a degree.

Anonymous said...

He didn't complete college or earn a degree.

Thank you, Serena! Boy, he's more foolish than I thought to quit his IT job. I hope they're stashing the dough away because this won't continue forever.

Steph said...

Yeah, when he has to go back to work, he will be in his mid 30s with large gaps in short term employment, competing with young, degreed adults with no kids. Good luck, Jon.

laura linger said...

And still, if the show would simply feature THE KIDS, it would be a very agreeable way to spend 30 minutes each week.

I still think the Gosselin children are all precious and thoroughly enjoy whatever time the camera devotes to them. There was a bit in one episode where Leah and Aaden were going to make "cheesy balls" for their alligators and frogs because "their tummies were hungry." It was the best part of the whole darned show. So cute.

Anonymous said...

Kate has a BS in Nursing.

Serena said...

Kate has a BS in Nursing.

She has an Associate's Degree from a hospital sponsored two-year nursing program

Anonymous said...

From what I see, I don't think Jon will ever have to worry about working again. That is if he is smart with their money. It sounds like they are making more in one year than most of us make in a life time I was also wondering if anyone knows the nursing program that Kate graduated from?

minxie said...

The message J & K are sending to their kids is one of entitlement--that they will earn money and attain things simply through who they are, not what they do. So there is no incentive to improve, educate or work at anything. The children will grow up thinking the world owes them a living because they are the Gosselins--mom and dad sat on the couch and earned money, so why can't they? There is no work ethic being demonstrated so In the future, how will J & K get ornery teenagers to want to go to college or get jobs? Mom and dad don't work. Kids watch what you do, not necessarily what you say.

Anonymous said...

I saw a show the other night where Jon did leave his IT job but he is still working. His hours are slightly different and he is able to work from home some days as well.

Serena said...

I saw a show the other night where Jon did leave his IT job but he is still working. His hours are slightly different and he is able to work from home some days as well.

That is outdated. Jon claimed to be working for Bob, Beth Carson's husband. Working out of his home with flexible hours.

Then a few shows later he claimed that he had started his own business and was working out of his home.

Based upon the amount of time he has to hang around home doing Kate's bidding, it looks to me like "his own business" is helping Queen Kate run the Gosselin empire.

Grammier said...

Jon's employment status has changed several times since this show began. Of course, TLC plays the show so often and so completely out of order, that it is no wonder viewers get confused about what Jon is doing these days.

Anonymous said...

Anon said: I was also wondering if anyone knows the nursing program that Kate graduated from?

Reading Hospital - it is not an associate degree program - it's a diploma program. Graduates are then eligible to enter the degree-completion program at Kutztown University for a BSN.

Anonymous said...

I am glad "sorority sister" finally saw the truth. I met a sheeple today. Some things I noted during our discussion:

-They think the only way Jon & Kate can support their big family is with support from people like them.

-They think this is true because that is what Kate says.

-They don't question the absence of the grandparents because they "think" they saw Jon's mom on one old episode. (I believe that was his grandmother at the carnival)

-They think it is cute the way Kate gives Jon a hard time.

-They did not know there was a college fund.

The list goes on.....

What will it take for people to see the truth?

Anonymous said...

Here is the url for the where Kate went to school: http://www.readinghospital.org/OPage.asp?PageID=OTH000365
Jon's most recent claim of employment is self employeed web designer. Now go look at their site and tell me would you hire him?

Anonymous said...

Reading Hospital - it is not an associate degree program - it's a diploma program. Graduates are then eligible to enter the degree-completion program at Kutztown University for a BSN.

A certified nurses aid in California has more training than that.

alana said...

I wrote such a stellar letter to TLC last week re: TLC is enabling Jon's pathetic example as a role model by supporting his chronic unemployment, TLC should help this couple get off of television and into some serious life-skills and employment counseling so they can grow up and begin raising their children, et. al..... that I was surprised to see the show was still on this week!
Your website is SO GREAT!Please don't take this the wrong way but...it's obvious everyone's I.Q. is above 130, your senses of humor are so entertaining, and everyone's ability to write efficiently and eloquently is amazing. This is the only blog I don't feel guilty about reading and now, submitting a post to.
On July 19, 2008, at 7:19a.m., Anonymous was comparing Kate to her own mother. She said what bothered her the most about them was "...the narcisstic refusal to account for their own behavior." The hair on the back of my neck stood up and I was covered in goose bumps. My own mother was a certified, card-carrying (diagnosed) Borderline Personality; everything was good or bad, black or white, a total disaster or absolutely perfect, wonderful or awful. There was no such thing as in-between gray, or, as I like to refer to them, the colors in between the extremes. We grew up trying to stay at least three steps ahead of her in order to stave off disaster and her emotional implosions, but to no avail. Our lives were in constant chaos. She needed "drama" to feel alive and if there weren't constant molehills to make into mountains, she'd create one. And God help you if she decided to make "you" the object of her current crisis.
I see a lot of my mother in Kate and my siblings and myself in those always anxious children. Jon is just a big oaf, feeding off his family's "good fortune" like moss on a tree or mildew in the shower - ha! I couldn't resist.
Tonight I read the blog from the newspaper article concerning Kate's unfulfilled wish to keep her Medicaid nurse past the one year limit. If you haven't read it yet and you're perplexed by J&K, look it up; you'll flip out! I think the link is i37.tinypic.com/21e53f4.jpg. (Serena, can you check this? Thanks.)
In your debt, alana

Anonymous said...

alana said: On July 19, 2008, at 7:19a.m., Anonymous was comparing Kate to her own mother. She said what bothered her the most about them was "...the narcisstic refusal to account for their own behavior." The hair on the back of my neck stood up and I was covered in goose bumps

I totally agree. My mother was the same way. When I first started to fall out of love with this show, that was what struck me the most--that Kate and my mother shared a lot of characteristics. My mother was a master of the guilt trip. With her, everything was the end of the world. I spent most of my childhood (and adulthood, for that matter), thinking I was the cause of whatever her current crisis was and feeling guilty for it. Now, whenever I watch the show, I fear for the kids' futures. I know from personal experience that the lasting effects of having a mother like Kate don't go away easily. I was lucky in that I had a father who made sure I was protected from the worst of my mother's personality. These kids have John, and we all know how hardworking he is. These kids are destined for some rough times if something doesn't change, and I pity them.

alana said...

Yikes! I just read (on the JK8.forum)that the show is coming to Hawaii in August - I live here!
Hopefully TLC will spin Kate's drama on an island other than Oahu (home of Waikiki). No offense, but all that whining and crying drives ne crazy and yes, it's become loud enough to hear anywhere on this rock! Add the kids' crying and whining to the above and I know I'd lose my mind!
Now that TLC is aware of the fact that we're no longer enthralled with the "John and Kate Ate 8" show, they have to do some fancy footwork to repair the damage (KATE'S damage). Since it would be in poor taste for Kate to get pregnant again, the next best thing is a "wedding" in some exotic location.
Wouldn't it be GREAT if Jon took a powder right before the ceremony? Now, THAT'S entertainment!!!

FIONA said...

Alana made a statement regarding the quality of this blog that I would like to comment to.

To the blog owners who keep a tidy house, I feel that is a place where people can come for reliable information, some verifable facts, and some outstanding observations and insight into this wonky family. (To whomever is using the word wonky, thanks for adding a new word to my vocab; I catch myself saying it now, and get a chuckle)

I think it is evident that people truly care about the Gosselin children and supporting them if only thru our blogging is better than just being passive.

It is true, there is no ranting or raving. A guest can come here and read hours of interesting and intelligent dialogue. (That is not the norm in the blogging/forum world)


I am happy to be able to mingle with so many interesting and funny people.

So thanks again, Serena and Co. This is an outstading place.

P.S. Just one thing to you Anon. posters....I sure wish you would take on some kind of name. It is so hard to ever connect what comment is coming from who....just sayin'

Fiona

Anonymous said...

You only need an associates degree to be a RN. Many nurses do have their BSN, but you don't have to. I have looked into a nursing program...I have my BA, but I could attend a junior college and get my associates in nursing and then pass the test to get a license. So, not to defend her or anything, but she is probably more educated than a CNA ;-)

Just to add, it does seem like you posters are educated ;-) I don't see a lot of pet peeve spelling mistakes...like definately. Urgh.

Alicia

AmandaT said...

I agree with the previous reply stating that an RN with an associates (or even from one of the rare diploma programs left in the country) is quite a bit more training than a CNA. I have been a CNA in California. While regulations are stringent there, it still does not compare to any path to becoming an RN.
I personally am an RN/BSN, and there can be some snobbery in the profession about ASN or diploma programs. Although, I always thought she was an LPN for some reason .... most likely nothing more than my own personal assumptions.
If she is indeed a current RN, it is a great job with a lot of flexibility. It pays well in some parts of the country, and travel or agency jobs pay handsomely. I can understand becoming frustrated with the profession - I myself prefer to "play in the street" as a paramedic - but it is honest work that can support a family. It would do Kate good to get out and be around others, and to do some of the more humbling tasks that are required.
While I understand the importance of having a parent at home, it is also important to be a role model for your children.

Angie baby said...

I loved watching J&K in the beginning but it has become really awful. I would respect them more if they did an episode sharing the facts about the sponsorship they receive. I know a few elderly people who have sent them money on a limited budget & it breaks my heart they are being deceived that this family is struggling. I can appreciate that they are taking advantage of these freebies that corporations give them but to act like times are tough for them to the general public who watches their show isn't right.

sistah2 said...

I agree. IT would be wonderful to see them say, "look, we are not accepting any more free items. We are okay financially now, and we are very grateful. We are going to encourage these companies/persons that have provided us with free --- to donate these items to ----. We want to teach our kids to give back and show them by example what it means to truly live a Christian life."
I know . dream on..

Anonymous said...

I agree with so many comments about Kate and her poor attitude. It boggles my mind how Jon does not defend himself.
A friend of mine who goes to University here in Toronto told me her Frat house plays a drinking game every Monday night. Everytime Kate screams out "JON" they take a shot. If she makes fun of his weight, they take 2 shots! If she corrects his english they drink the whole bottle!
You can imagine how much alcohol she and her friends go through!