Sunny Day

TLC is airing a new Jon & Kate Plus 8 episode tomorrow night (Monday July 28th) -- a 30-minute feature starting at 9:00 p.m. Eastern titled Sunny Day:
In this episode of Jon & Kate, the Gosselins family makes a visit to Sesame Street! There they meet Big Bird and Elmo and get to tour the set of Elmo's World where Elmo plays with them and gives them lots of hugs and kisses..

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Sharla said...

My kids loved Sesame Street so I'm looking forward to this one and seeing if the kids know the characters and how they react to or interact with them. I wish it had been around way back when.

bethanna said...

People seriously need to stop giving these people freebies. Although, maybe Kate will do a skit with Oscar where she dumps a gallon of hand sanitizer in his can and yells at Snuffleupugus for being fat and lazy. Will she tell the Count that she can only count to eight? Will Cookie Monster be accosted for not eating organic cookies? I hope Big Bird sits on her.

dizzy_squishling_and_bean said...

OMG lol there are cookie crumbs on my computer now thanks a lot Bethanna lol.

You know what I honestly hope to see? A happy family having a fun time at a fun place, enjoying each others company.

Barb said...

So are they going to Sesame Street or Sesame Place (which is in PA)? Where is Sesame Street, anyway?

Anonymous said...

I am just hoping that Kate tried to enjoy the day for a change. Hopefully, they washed the "Streets" before they arrived!

Fidelia said...

Where is Sesame Street?

It's a nice place without signs that say: "STOP....do not take pictures...do not wave....do not stop and say hello....shut up...back up."

BTW, I see that there is another "Lauren" on this blog. Quite unusual for me to meet another Lauren.

"Hi, Lauren!" I stick with Fidelia.
There just *cannot* be another Fidelia on this blog!! LOL!!!

seashell said...

There was a post about this over at FORT. The lady was there the same day as J&K.

http://www.fansofrealitytv.com/forums/other-reality-shows/72778-jon-kate-plus-8-a-199.html#post3127428

I wonder how much editing it required to make this look like just another "special day" in the life of the Gosselins.

Anonymous said...

They went to Sesame Place. As someone who used to work there and still knows people there, I was told the characters all loved the kids and gave positive reports. So, if any of the typical behavior that occurs on episodes happened at the park, it didn't happen in front of the characters. :)

And...Sesame Street is filmed in a studio in Queens, NY.

bakedbeans said...

Theme music proposal for episode;

"Started out as a Sun'ny Daaaaay,

Just a Sun'ny Daaaay......,

And then came Kaaate,

Then came Kaaaaate......"

Sung, of course, to the tune of that old fav sitcom theme, "Maude".

Jen said...

I hope they aren't actually going to the Sesame Street set...woldn't that be great to not only have a camera in your face all day, but to learn that Big Bird isn't really "real" and they live with cameras in their faces too? Please tell me this is something other than removing the "4th wall" and revealing to the kids that Sesame Street isn't real either....

aly,benji n siennas mom said...

No I think they are going to Sesame Place and that is in PA. We took the kids for the 4th of July weekend and they LOVED IT!

I’m sure the G kids will too! Even Mady and Cara there is still lots to do there for them. My daughter will be 7 tomorrow and at first I thought she will not like anymore but she had a blast.

I hope J&K relax and let their kiddies have fun at such a wonderful happy place.

sistah2 said...

My sister's co-worker was at Sesame Place the same day as J&K. She said they had a huge entoreuge of people, not just crew, but many "helpers". She said Kate's hair was done up perfect and didn't move. This was laughable because at Sesame, 99% of the moms are running around in bathing suits and look a mess - its mostly a water park. I'll be curious to see if she has any fun with the kids, but if her hair stayed dry and "perfect" I doubt it.

Anonymous said...

Considering J * K have said that the tups dont watch much TV other than Little People Big World, prior to visiting Sesame Street Place I wonder if the tups could recognize if asked who Oscar the Grouch, Cookie Monster, Big Bird are. IMO, tonight's episode featuring another Gosselin family memory making event is just another producer contrived day in the life of.

Anonymous said...

When I was little I went to Sesame Place many times and always like it. That's gotta be a long drive from their home though. Seasem Place is located off I-95 right around the corner from Oxford Valley Mall which has to be at least 2 hours from them.

Anonymous said...

So a day in the life of J & K not only include that of a film and production crew but an entourage of 'helpers' as well? Explain to me again what exactly J & K do themselves? Sit back and play the role of 'supervisor' while others are responsible for tending to the needs of their children and capture the memory making moments. IMO, TRUTH be known, J & K are the REAL 'bystanders'!!

Anonymous said...

anon at 6:20AM...yes it is that much of a hike for them, but they almost drove that far to decorate cupcakes they weren't allowed to eat....

Anonymous said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGf1WZmOhMk

A hilarious parody of the gosselins. These kids are creepily right on.

Anonymous said...

I so agree with Bethanna... when with the freebies stop??? Kate continually complains during these types of trips/outings -- about everything and barely gets out a thank you or an acknowledgment to the providing company. I can’t believe that after the ice cream at Disney, the tram ride at the zoo or the spinning ride at Dutch Wonderland, another park would invite them to come!

Anonymous said...

Yeah funny but sad when it shows it's pretty apparent even teens can see that Jon would rather "kill" Kate then continue to live with her constant crap.

Anonymous said...

I do not like Sesame Place.
1) The one mini wave pool (as well as all the other pools there) must be half baby pee with a side order of coagulated formula throw up.
2) The amount of rides for the price is outlandish. Me and my son went up one summer for $120.00 for both of us. Nearby Dorney has Snoopy and 3 times the rides and fun for $70.00 for 2.
3) Lines were way too long for rides.

Anonymous said...

Wow! I saw some genuine warmth from the ice queen during this episode. When she took the kids into Elmo's World, she looked really happy to see the kids so excited. Good for her.

moi said...

Did I see this right? Did Kate direct Jon to get out of the van and move the white car, before they could leave their driveway? Instead of just doing it herself? Does the path down the driveway = "hither, thither, and yon" too?

Oh Jon.
Balls, where art thou?

Anonymous said...

This one really surprised me. I found myself actually enjoying this and not cringing at every word Kate said. I think that they both saw how ridiculous they both looked on the Embarrassing Moments episode and made an effort to have some fun with their kids. I like this.

FIONA said...

OK-there is nothing that I like about the show anymore. OFFICIALLY.

It's just dumb, maybe because we KNOW so much about the family. CoNtRiVeD! It was nothing more than a fancy, boring home video.

My friend Mady was showing sooo much restraint. Thank goodness there exsists a JennY! I just thought it was weird with them running around in their swimming suits. But we did get to see 2 GYMBOREE OUTFITS!!!

And if poor Mady says EVERY day that this is worst day of her life and no one is LISTENING!!!!! All I can say is, Shitty!

moi said...

I am reminded tonight why Mady is my favorite:

"I don't wanna sit with her. I'll tell ya where I wanna sit: I wanna sit. In the car. For 2 hours. And drive home."

Watch out when Mady is 12, Kate. Paybacks are a lovely thing!

hellokitty said...

I'm on the fence about this one. On one hand I was happy that ALL of the kids seemed to have enjoyed themselves. But on the other hand it all felt very much contrived and thats what makes this show so yucky now. Nothing feels spontaneous and real.

(To clarify its not that I want drama, but how many times are we going to watch them go to an amusement park?)

FIONA said...

Moi,

I didn't catch it that way...I thought it was more like "I have to sit with her the whole way home"...thus she didn't want to at lunch. LOL

Either, I do LOVE MADY!

Rachel said...

I thought the show was more tolerable than usual this week. The kids actually looked like they were having fun.

Shannon said...

Something was weird about the interview area tonight. It seemed like it was being filmed way to close to Jon and Kates faces and just all around more random them normal. Not real sure what it was but something felt different...

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Wow! I saw some genuine warmth from the ice queen during this episode. When she took the kids into Elmo's World, she looked really happy to see the kids so excited. Good for her.

July 28, 2008 6:26 PM

But the day didnt go by without Kate belittling or barking out orders to Jon. Can this woman ever communicate to her husband without speaking to him like a child? Does every request or comment she makes have to include a snide or condescending remark. I wish Peter Pan (Jon) would just find his balls and man up !
I also seriously doubt it took them TWO HOURS to change the children out of their bathing suits. Another example of Kate's typical hyperbole.

Anonymous said...

B.O.R.I.N.G !

We took the kids to the amusement park we rode the rides. We had fun.
All at the REQUEST and EXPENSE of TLC production. Just another day in the life of.

Lynn/Anon1967 said...

I'm on the fence on this one too. On one hand, the joy on the kids faces were real, the fun they were having was real,I'm actually glad they got to ride the rollarcoaster 3x in a row (don't think Kate liked it too much though..lol), and meet all the characters.
I think they realize we want to see the kids now, and are going to fix it, but they still shouldn't have the cameras in their faces as much as they do.
That would have been a perfect trip for Jodi and her family to go along too, that's sad.
I also think they had such a great time because, IIRC, SP sells organic foods..lol Their were a lot of rides they all could ride in, and they didn't show as much of Kate, although it still showed.
Then they follow with the trip to the Crayola factory, showing us the behind the scenes of I'm sure most of the episodes that look like tonights.
Most of all, I was happy to see all the kids, really having a good time, and not walkig on eggshells.
I didn't want to watch, but I gave in...lol

Anonymous said...

hellokitty said it best! "how many times are we going to watch them go to an amusement park?

And might I add, EAT at an amusement park? Figure out how to ride the rides at a amusement park without leaving the little kids alone? It's getting to be soooo predictable! This is no longer "a day in the life". It's just watch us go to all the places you can't take your children to in one year. It's too much.

Devil's advocate: Even if they show a day in the life, people are going to think it's not real anyway...

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Anonymous said...

The cameras were looking a little amateurish tonight...were they not?

MrsRef said...

I thought the kids got into the car in their bathing suits. The girls did seem to have fun with Jenny on the flum type ride. It is a shame that Kate sits on the sidelines. I used to have so much fun with my kids at water parks, etc. Just got right in there with them. Also, were there no signs that said no parents on the slide. I guess rules don't apply to J&K.

bigsis88 said...

I liked this episodes a lot more than some of the previous ones. I thought it was cute, and it seemed like a fun day for the most part. (But where was my Snuffie???) However, I laughed when Jon mentioned giving the kids a "healthy lunch", and, seconds later, the camera showed their hot dogs, pickles, and fries. There's nothing wrong with them eating that (IMO), but why draw attention to it when we can see that it's definitely not "healthy"?

MrsRef said...

If I recall correctly, the kids got in the car in their bathing suits. Two hours my foot. The older girls did seem to have a good time with Jenny - it is a shame that their mother can't just do things like that with them. She is in her 30's for goodness sake. I always did things like that with my kids. Also, liked the way they disregarded the rules when it came to going down the slide. Were there no signs? Do rules not apply to J&K. I would be ticked if I was a guest at the park that day.

Anonymous said...

Contrived, boring. But at least the kids looked like they had fun.

But someone please tell me what "it was blazingly naptime" means?

Anonymous said...

They probably filmed this a month or two back, right? Some people make it sound as if this was filmed after the "Embarrassing Moments" show aired, as if they were trying to improve their image after that fiasco. I don't see how that is possible though.

Anonymous said...

Kate is a bitch. Once again she had to rag on Jon about his weight and hair. She made a snide remark about his stomach, then later his hair. Has she looked at her hair lately? Nice little scrub brush she has on top. Too much junk in the trunk too. I wish Jon would point that out. Kate is a mean, unhappy, nasty woman.

Stephanie said...

Is it me or does Kate seem depressed in the interview chair. I actually got sleepy watching her.

Although I did see a spark of our old Kate when Jon dared to put one of the tups in the stroller b4 she had put the towel in it "the right way".

And at the end when she said they'd been "invited back" to the park. Um, you don't need to be invited to go to a theme park, Kate. Well you do if you expect to go for free.

Anonymous said...

They went to the park on June 10th, for anyone who's interested.

Sera said...

I thought the scene with Cara and Colin and the spider was adorable, highlight of the ep (more of that stuff please!). And I'm glad that Mady seemed to really enjoy herself. This episode wasn't too squeamish (not like the Crayola ep that followed *shudder* that was hard to stomach on a second viewing).

But then there goes Kate just wrecking stuff by telling Jon to "stop looking at your physique," and scolding him for putting the towel into the stroller incorrectly. That woman...

I too thought it was amusing that Jon commented on their "healthy" lunch of hotdogs and fries.

Fidelia said...

Ok, kids~
I loved tonight's visit to Sesame whatever place even in the 113 degree heat!!!

I thought the children behaved beautifully despite the heat and even Mady (who I am liking more and more each week) was smiling and happy after she gave up her idea of sitting in the car and then driving home.

Even Atilla the Hun controlled her mouth except for an off-handed remark about Jon's yesteryear weight issue - she just haaaaaad to get that in.

But those earrings that Kate wore at an amusement park???? What's up with long, dangling, fake diamond earrings when you are going to see Elmo and a goldfish??

All in all I loved it. I'm so pleased to see the growth in the kids. And...as a special treat to me...Leah killed a spider! I HATE spiders. She's going to be a fine young lady when she grows up. I'm sure of it now.

Fidelia

mamamitch said...

Mady usually irritates the heck out of me, but tonight I saw a whole new side of Mady and I finally appreciate her. When Kate asked her where she wanted to sit and she gave that tart but honest little reply I was CHEERING for Mady!

YOU GO GIRL!!!

I think Mady should get the quote of the week, guys!

Anonymous said...

Kate should leave the little kids with the babysitter and get on the water ride with her twins!

Kate seems to be all about 'making memories' - well, Mady finally had the best day of her life and what made it so great was riding down a waterslide ride with a babysitter. I would want to be a part of my daughter's best memories.

Anonymous said...

What was up with the little leather sandals in the pool? Kate isn't worried about them getting destroyed in the water? No resale value on used shoes, eh?

Couldn't a sponsor provide some water shoes for the kids?

Anonymous said...

Doesn't it seem like kate's a little down in the interview chair? The interview sessions seem like something's up between them. Kate is looking at Jon, like saying to him, "watch what you say." I don't know, something's not right there. Also why again the comment about Jon's hair? And his weight? And his physique? Will she ever stop or she just can't stop herself? How I wish SOMEONE would say the things to her (Jon are you listening?) that she says to him. Oh and Kate taking Hannah on the carousel? There's a shocker! Heaven forbid she take one of the boys with her! Oh wait! Boys are gross & icky! Just like dad! That's right!

Anonymous said...

ANON said: But someone please tell me what "it was blazingly naptime" means?
Yes, I asked myself the same thing when I heard it. Besides the totally bizarre choice of adverb - why do kids who are four years old need a nap? They may need it on some days - but four year olds do not nap routinely/regularly, do they? I'm not a mom, so I ask. I think she just makes them take a nap for her very personal convenience as well as for keeping them "babies" to keep the gravy train going.

K.C. said...

If anyone has this episode recorded on Tivo please watch the last minute or two again. Look at Kate's face when they are loading everyone in the Assault Vehicle at the theme park. Aaden is crying and right before someone hands her the keys(?) you can see Kate making a very nasty face. Either she is mocking someone or just being obnoxious, I can't tell exactly, but someone did some very clever editing to keep Kate out of that scene.

Yes, "healthy lunch" is not hot dogs or pizza & fries.

Why did all of the girls leave the house with pony tails except Hannah? She had that long hair hanging all over her in 113 degree heat!

Someone could make a drinking game out of how many insults Kate gave Jon in this episode. The fat remarks alone were enough to give anyone a complex. Add to that how embarrassed he must have felt when she told him "Don't look at your physique so much", then she rubs Ernie's head and says, "My husband used to have hair like yours". And how could I forget, "Speaking of bellies...Honey you should know all about that in your past life"--That doesn't even make sense! She was just looking for ways to hurt him. It was cruel.

Someone said they were at Sesame Place on June 10? If that's so, why did Kate say Jon's shirt was "Not very 4th of July"? (This was when he changed his shirt several times prior to leaving the house.)

The kids seemed pretty happy, that was nice!

All in all, I have to agree, it felt very contrived. At this point I may just know too much to ever enjoy the show again.

K.C. said...

Yes, Kate DID seem weird in the chair. I kept thinking tired, but that's not it. The poster that said she seemed depressed might have it right? Something was definitely odd.

Anon 8:10--No, 4 year olds do not take naps, at least mine doesn't nor do any of the other's I know.

Blazingly hot!?!?

Anonymous said...

K.C.

I heard Kate say it wasn't the 4th of July to him. I don't know. They were there on June 10th, though. A lot of my old coworkers were working that day and posted about it on facebook.

Anonymous said...

"Someone could make a drinking game out of how many insults Kate gave Jon in this episode."

You can do that with just about any episode of Jon and Kate plus 8, but unless your alcohol tolerance is pretty high, you and your friends will all be trashed before the credits roll.

Carrie Ann said...

Anon 8:10--No, 4 year olds do not take naps, at least mine doesn't nor do any of the other's I know.

Even though I still think Kate babies the little kids, I know plenty of 4 year olds who nap. A girl I watched all last summer took a nap every day. Many daycares put all kids down for a nap. My mother says I took regular naps until I started first grade (I did a half-day kindergarten).

Anonymous said...

I loved the stares the Gosselins got as they just walked their way into the park while everyone else waited in that huge line. Made me laugh.

Anonymous said...

Just started watching here on the west coast. Who is Molly? I could have sworn I heard Jon say something about needing gas because Molly emptied the tank while driving. Leah was so cute and proud to have killed the itsy bitsy spider. I thought that it was funny the way Jon encouraged her while Cara and Collin were so upset over it.

Jenny, Cara and Mady looked like they were having a blast on the slide. I would have so been on that with them. Jon and Kate should have tagged teamed the little ones in the wading pool with Jenny and taken a couple of trips with the twins.

My favorite Jon line, "Why are you spazing out?" while Kate was removing kids from the stroller in order to fold the towel properly.

Kate, Kate, Kate. I think that she made an effort and had moments of not hating it. I just don't think that she can truly relax and just experience fun.

S.J. said...

It's nice for them when they don't have to wait in line, Elmo's World was all set for them, all the characters were waiting for them, and they got to ride the roller coaster 3 times(most people probably waited in long lines).

Why worry about naps? 4 year olds can skip naps and it won't hurt them. The kids seemed happy to me without a nap.

adri said...

""Speaking of bellies...Honey you should know all about that in your past life"


Kate would know all about it more than Jon, I would imagine.

Not a bad episode, but yeah...the couch interview seemed all out of whack to me as well, in several respects.

Anonymous said...

I actually really liked this episode. Kate was a little 'stoned' in the interview chair, but it was nice to hear Jon narrate a little bit, without being interrupted...and I thought Mady was absolutely adorable!!!

tourmaline said...

As a standalone, this episode was pretty good. The kids were a joy to watch, Kate cracked plenty of what looked like authentic smiles, and wasn't anywhere near as involved as in other episodes (and by that I mean constantly standing over the kids).
Actually, that was the first time I was tipped off that they may have had more help than they let on in the beginning- she wasn't yelling at Jon to wrangle the kids when they were in the kiddie pool, nor did she mention any hesitation about being left alone with 6 kids when Jenny left with the twins.
Then there were the "friends" that Kate referred to in the end who helped them on the coaster, including the grey haired man who popped in and out of a couple of shots, as well as the other mystery helper who had to have been pushing a stroller near the end of the show (as Kate and Jenny pushed two, and Jon was walking next to Kate, sans one).

Anonymous said...

I am so glad someone said something about the earrings...I was wondering about that, too. Kinda tacky to wear those big chandelier earrings to Sesame Place?

Anonymous said...

I agree...something just didnt seem the same in the couch scenes....humm???

I give them credit for sticking with 113 degree....thats hot! free or not....no way :)

Anonymous said...

I think that they definitely had more help than just Jenny. I believe at the end someone has one of the tups on their shoulders. Not sure because it was so quick.

bethanna said...


Doesn't it seem like kate's a little down in the interview chair? The interview sessions seem like something's up between them. Kate is looking at Jon, like saying to him, "watch what you say." I don't know, something's not right there

I am torn on this episode.
I agree with the comment above. Something was very "off" during the interview. Kate is always controlling and demeaning to Jon, but it really seemed like she was waiting for him to say something really bad.

Holy crap! She needs to stop busting Jon's balls. It is so hypocritical to criticize his physical appearance when she utilized surgery and all manner of beauty improvements to look the way she does. And, am I think only one who thinks Jon isn't that bad to begin with? He's going to the gym and eating healthy (for the most part). I'd rather my husband be healthy than look like a stick or a professional body builder. Worse, I suspect some of the kids will end up with body image issues. Kate should use caution with five girls in the house.

Maddy breaks my heart. She's no dummy! She's learned that staying meek and mild doesn't prevent her from getting blamed for other people's behavior. Given the choice between staying quiet or voicing her feelings of injustice, I say she's figured out it doesn't matter. One way or another, Kate isn't happy and Mady gets the short stick.

When they bypassed the line, I yelled at the television. I'm not proud of myself. It's not a common reaction for me. But, are they so celebtastic that they are above waiting in line? Quite ironic that Kate "doesn't understand" why some of her kids are so impatient. *rolls eyes* They learn what they live.

I know the perfect person to make up the Jon and Kate drinking game. I'm calling her right now.

Chris said...

I don't know how I feel about being the perfect person to create the drinking game. LOL But, since I rocked the Little House Snark on TWOP, here goes:

THE PLEADING 8 DRINKING GAME


Drink when...
...Kate says "Helloooooooo" or "I'm exhausted." (1 full shot of Nyquil)
...Jon and Kate blow past a line for attractions or amusement parks. (1 shot of Mr. Jose)
...Kate chides John about his weight. (Do ten jumping jacks and chug a beer)
...Kate mentions Jon's hair. (1 shot)
...Jon runs back into the house, from the car, to retrieve some idiotic item that Kate demands. (Do a lap around the living room, collect four items, and down a Red Bull)
...Kate punishes a sick child with sleeping in the laundry room. (Put two Mentos in your mouth and take a mouthful of Diet Coke...spew away from the group).
...Kate makes pancakes (drink a Mimosa)
...at the beginning of the episode, ask everyone to jot down how many minutes in before Maddy's first breakdown. The person who's farthest away from the time must drink. (drink a Kamikaze)
...you see the box of pinecones, call out "felony!". Last one to shout "felony" must drink (a Peppermint Patty shooter).
...Kate crabs about shoes. (Run around the room barefoot and have a Saki shooter).

Anonymous said...

"They probably filmed this a month or two back, right? Some people make it sound as if this was filmed after the "Embarrassing Moments" show aired, as if they were trying to improve their image after that fiasco. I don't see how that is possible though."

I was in PA (same area)either the first or second weekend in June and it was 97 degrees. Hot hot hot! So the epi could have been filmed then. Either way it was a snoozer. Kate just has to get in her digs. What a bore this show has become. Infomertials. Time to hit the remote.

Anonymous said...

Kate said something like,"Alexis is the only one who knows ALL the (Sesame Street) characters. She lives her life in T.V. Land."

Is this because Alexis sleeps alone in the basement where there's a television?

This episode, the 6 little kids actually used some real words. I am dismayed by their constant use of whining, shrieking, and screaming at the top of their lungs in order to communicate. My Honey won't watch the show with me anymore because he can't stand this kind of piercing "animalistic" noise.

I noticed Aaden's beet- red face as he was crying in the final scene, too. But someone had *edited out* the sound - what?!

Anonymous said...

Anon 8:09 said: Oh and Kate taking Hannah on the carousel? There's a shocker! Heaven forbid she take one of the boys with her!

She also took one of the boys (Aaden I think) on the flying ride. I remember thinking it looked a lot like the dumbo ride (with the theme cars changed). And they switched up during the rollercoaster rides, we don't know who they sat with on each of the turns. It is pretty unfair to just attack Kate without looking at (or giving) the full picture. That seems to happen a lot around here.

sistah2 said...

I live not far from there and I know it was not 113 degrees that day. Even with humidity added in, it really wasn't that level of hot. What they probably meant was that in parts of the park that are all blacktop, no shade, etc. the direct sun made it 113 in those areas. Also, I've been there with my kids lots of times and you are right, she looked ridiculous with long earrings on, because NO ONE there would dress like that. I guess she is thinking of her TV appearance. Most parents would have suits on too. I guess she did not want to be on natl TV with a suit on, but she could have worn a swim top with some shorts over it. And why wouldn't Jon at least wear a suit? Hey, both of them should have let loose and had some fun with the kids in the water rides - viewers would have loved them for it, since they need a serious PR lift. Also, maybe I am picky but it pissed me off that they had the nerve to ride that roller coaster 3 times in a row while other people had to wait. That was rude, IMO. Those kids will have such a sense of entitlement if this keeps up.

Anonymous said...

I agree with previous posts suggesting that there was a noticable difference in camera approach while filming this episode. The filming was tight and close excluding much of the surrounding background.IMO there have been alot of changes within the Gosselin household that TLC doesnt want the viewers to be aware of. My guess is, what we have seen of the Gosselin house in the past few newer episodes is merely a 'stage' for filming purposes as they transition in to their new bigger and better McMansion.

Katie O said...

I thing something has been "off" in the interview chair for a couple of episodes, actually - ever since the "previously undiscovered home videos" segment where they showed J&K's engagement, etc.

As far as the huge "entourage" of people, I really don't blame them for bring so many people with them. 8 kids. 8 KIDS!! We don't really know if they were in their strollers ALL day, I doubt 8 four year olds really were in strollers all day, and if they were let out of those strollers, people would need to be there to wrangle the kids. They are very well behaved, but well behaved children run off in public towards something shiny, too.

As far as Kate's hair, aren't you all doing to Kate what Kate does to Jon that we all so despise? You're putting her down for hair, like she puts Jon down for her hair.

Let's keep this blog about the things that really matter - how they treat the kids, not about how Kate does her hair or her earing choices. That's getting a little petty. I'm also changing my nickname to Katie O, since there are SO many Katie's on this blog!!

Nancy said...

At the end, Jon being allowed to talk without Kate interrupting really stood out to me. Kate seemed ...medicated... or something, and there was something odd about her mouth. I didn't enjoy hearing Kate disrespect Jon with "weight" and "hair" comments, but I've come to expect that. Why must she make such comments? Does she think it's cute? Do the producers think it's funny? Lordy be, I wish the editors would think it's not nice and edit out those remarks.
I did not enjoy hearing Mady's smarty-pants remark to Kate. It's never good for kids to sass a parent,IMO, even if the parent is Kate. At least Mady eventually put aside her drama-queen persona and allowed herself to have fun!

Dunwoody Mom said...

There is a new "comment" up on K&J website. Seems to be a littler nicer, so it was most likely written by the PR people.

Unless you are visiting this site, www.sixgosselins.com or TLC’s website, you will not be reading official information about our family.

There are many imposters, people who are claiming to be us, answering emails, chatting online claiming to be us or writing about us…None of these are us! Just so you know!!!

Anonymous said...

"And they even invited us back". Regardless of what Kate might think, and invitation isnt required to attend an amusement park. Unless of course, Kate is referring to an all expense paid special accomodation invitation.

I have a HUGE problem when wanna be celebrities ie, J & K go to a place like an amusement park and feel that they arent required to stand in line and are deserving of special treatment. They got to eat their lunch in an empty void of the public area, they got to meet and interact with the characters without the interuption of other families, and more than likely rode the rides without having to stand in line. IMO, those accomodations should be reserved for the truly deserving, DISABLED children or children with special needs. When you make the choice to visit a place like a popular amusement/theme park, yes even with 8 children, you do so knowing that other families with children had the same idea that day. You stand in line and wait for how ever long it takes in the 100+ degree temps just like the person in front of you. It's called patience and common courtesy and the 'right' thing to do!!

Anonymous said...

"But then there goes Kate just wrecking stuff by telling Jon to "stop looking at your physique," "

That is when I turned off the tv. It was a pretty pleasant episode (sort of) until that point. Then she had to make that comment. I Just simply couldn't watch any further. I think Kate not only dessrespects Jon but I think she is a little jealous of him too.

Notice she made another snarky comment about his belly. This was when they were on the couch. They were commenting on the big belly of one of the Seseame (sp)characters and Kate replied "Well you know what that's like to have a big belly from the old days" or something like that. I think she is becoming threatened by his new body. I don't think she would be capable of being happy for him that he's getting in shape, she's just jealous because he has "one-upped" her.

Remember in earlier episodes when she used to remind the kids to "be kind"? Hmmm, wonder what happened to that lesson?

Anonymous said...

The twins did seem to genuinely have fun on the water raft ride. The sad part is, they were having fun on the ride with a 20 something year old 'nanny helper'instead of hanging with friends their own age! IMO, I think that is a huge part of Mady and Cara's discontent. They just dont seem to have a REAL social connection with children their own age. I hope that they do have same age friends that they interact with unfortunately, IMO a huge part of their daily life is spent surrounded by adults serving the needs of J & K and TLC's agenda. The TRUTH lies within Mady's own words that Kate claims Mady says on a daily basis, 'this is the worst day of my life'.

Anonymous said...

I've noticed the depressed couch thing for a couple episodes now. I can't believe someone hasn't slipped her a Lorazepam yet or something.


I watched this episode a few times and noticed something interesting when the twins were going down the slide. Mady probably said it was the best day ever because they didn't have an anal retentive adult riding with them. When they first got on the slide, it was obvious that Jenny was wearing non-swimming attire. She didn't want to get wet, but when they got in the slide there was standing water. She kind of hesitated, but the slide attendant told her she was going to get wet either way when she went down. At that moment, she became different than the girls' mom because she thought "to hell with it" and sat down. She's willing to get a little wet to let the girls have fun and they apparently had a blast! Kate would have probably freaked out, caused a scene, and refused to go down the girls, resulting in an emotional breakdown for one or both of the twins.

moi said...

Someone said they were at Sesame Place on June 10? If that's so, why did Kate say Jon's shirt was "Not very 4th of July"? (This was when he changed his shirt several times prior to leaving the house.)
She said something like, "It's not the 4th of July" or "That's very '4th of July' " or something like that. In other words, Jon has no business wearing the American flag unless it is an American holiday. He also has no right to wear a pink polo shirt, apparently, or any of the other things he modeled in his Fashion Show Smackdown.

As for it being 113 degrees, I have been to Sesame Place on extremely hot days in the summer, and on those days the temp isn't more than 100. It doesn't get much hotter than that in the summer in PA. The park guard who told them that was probably measuring the temp on the black asphalt outside one of the rides, or something, but sorry, the air temp was not 113. I am just over the bridge in NJ and at that point of June our temps were 95-98.

Also, when I've been there and it's been that hot we ONLY did the water rides, hello?? Why would you submit everyone to regular rides when it's dangerously hot?

Oh, that's right. Because you're free advertisement for the park.

Anonymous said...

The man pushing a stroller at the end was one of the crew. The same crew that rode the roller coaster with them so each child would have an adult. I think it was great that the crew would do that so all the kids could go at once. And they seemed to switch the kids constantly so each one got a ride with a parent not just a crewmember. I don't think they ever hid that now and then the crew helps out. They did the same on the way to Disney. The crew sat with the kids as the parents carried them into the hotel one by one when they fell asleep. I think the crew might really care about them.

A Mummy said...

It wasn't as bad an episode as some of the more recent efforts. Lots of kid shots and they all looked happy.

I was wondering why kate and Jon didn't put on their swimmers like all the other parents and join the kids in the water. Thats half the fun. Also the earrings were a little much and in my opinion unsafe for a theme park.

Also did anyone hear the reference to an "uncle scott"? I thought I heard kate say that.

And on a total side - DH watch this with me last night and commented that J&K have our exact lamps. UGH I so don't want to have the same taste in things as she does. But I know that they came from Target.

Anonymous said...

Jon said "Mommy" not "Molly" in regards to the gas tank. They both trash each other in front of the kids.
I think Kate has a little wild side to her. Those earrings, the tattoo and when she took Mady to the mall to have her ears pierced, she had on 4 inch heels. Also, her e-mail address begins with sixymom, a play on the word "sexy". Again, no reference to the twins, since they do not contribute to the gravy train the family is on.
Regarding the new message on their website, why do they update comments and ads but never the facts on the website. Are we to believe the messages but at the same time, Kate is 26 weeks pregnant on bed rest and there are still no college funds for the kids?

Anonymous said...

I though Kate seemed apathetic on the couch, like she couldn't care less. Somehow I thought maybe she hadn't enjoyed it that much, but couldn't really say so. Or, like she didn't feel like doing the interview that night. It was like "we did this, then this, then this. the end,."

I hought Aedan looked pretty annoyed at the camera at one point, all up in his grille.

When was Jenny introduced? I don't remember seeing her before.

Anonymous said...

Kate's body language and the way she was sitting next to John in the interview, was very obvious that she was not comfortable.

Robert said...

After seeing Jenny a little more this episode, who wants to bet Kate is making damn sure Jon doesn't get to spend too much time with her?

Or am I just thinking that just because I happen to be male and can't help it?

C'mon - young cute girl hanging around all the time? Think that wouldn't make Kate a bit insecure?

Want to start a pool on how long Jenny lasts?

LeeAnn said...

I have been a lurker, but feel the need to comment.
I love this episode. I like seeing different sides of Kate. I hate that they seem to show the same side of her all of the time. She seemed genuine. I am glad she had help, but wish it would have been her family and friends. (I know they think of the production crew as that, but they will be gone when the show is over!).
Also, love what they have put on ther website now. The myspace page is a scam!

andi said...

Of course the interviews with them are going to be different in the "newer" episodes. Especially, since there are websites like this one that I'm sure they can read that put down every little thing they say and do. Soon, they probably won't even have the couch interviews. I'm sure they have feelings and reading this stuff about them (true or untrue) has got to hurt.

Anonymous said...

Who is Molly? I could have sworn I heard Jon say something about needing gas because Molly emptied the tank while driving.

--That was "Mommy." Jon was criticizing Kate to the kids; SOP with these parents. Jon is obviously tired of Kate being helpless in terms of pumping gas. If you think about it, Kate is very limited, and Jon has to take care of her almost as if she were a child. Yet, she treats him like a "frickin' dog." I thought Jon criticized Kate as much as he got in this episode.

Maybe Kate was on Prozac for this one. Except for "spazzing out" over the towel, she was unusually sedate.

I agree that it was nice to see everyone have a good time for a change. But, yes, it is getting simultaneously boring and maddening seeing them go to yet another amusement park and get preferential treatment. In a way, J&K can't win: if everybody in that family is happy, the show is boring ala the Duggars, but if Kate is going nuts and the kids are crying and hitting each other, then everybody watches it intently and then says what a horrible family they are.

I think Jen is editing the footage to include every single insult, eye roll, and tantrum. She knows that showing a mellow, happy family would bore everybody to tears. People like to see the bad stuff; that's why soap operas are so popular.

Anonymous said...

I did notice that Kate seemed different in the interviews. I thought it was most likely due to having read all the nasty stuff thats written about her on the internet. I know if I was being attacked on a daily basis for saying and doing things I would probably not feel comfortable being myself.

idea said...

I think Jen is editing the footage to include every single insult, eye roll, and tantrum. She knows that showing a mellow, happy family would bore everybody to tears. People like to see the bad stuff; that's why soap operas are so popular.

I also think the producer and crew are in on the joke, and continue to highlight how beastly Jon and/or Kate act, and yet people still defend them. As in, they keep showing things getting worse and worse, and yet there are still people who defend these actions. It is as if the producer/crew are saying, "Here ya go, folks, what about this Can you believe she does this?? Don't you hate her yet?! What's wrong with you?"

Anonymous said...

I don't find the "mellowed" out version of last night boring at all. It was a lot of fun without all the snipping and stuff. I was close to writing this show off with the nasty stuff that was going on beteen Jon and Kate.
I did not like the Duggers cause they are using their kids for child labor - particularly, in raising the young ones, not because they were so "nice."

Anonymous said...

I have a question about the crew. It does seem that they have a good relationship with those who work on the program, as seen in this episode. So who leaks the unedited footage of nude children or other unseen footage to YouTube? Doesn't it have to be someone with Figure 8? Thanks.

Anonymous said...

I have thought that Kate was depressed for a long time. Her Behavior - detacted from the kids, not showing any emotion, being so angry, are all signs for depression

WatchOverThem said...

If Kate is uncomfortable with her image on the show, why does she continually give the cameras that kind of material? Does she have no self-editing capabilities at all? She's been doing this long enough to know how it comes off in the episodes, and even comments about that to the camera. This was a kinder and gentler interview session, while she still told Jon to "be careful what you say" and a few weight, belly related quips. Mama, you have no right to dig someone else in the belly area, after showing your clown car swollen uterus belly on international television, along with a nip and tuck to repair the mess. Anyway, "be careful what you say" is material right there that will not "hit the editing room floor, no way no how...it's in the show.

Maybe she is being pressured by PR/production, maybe she is trying, maybe she is medicated. Unfortunately, I think we know the real Kate, but everyone deserves a chance to change and improve.

FIONA said...

Kate seems to be all about 'making memories' - well, Mady finally had the best day of her life and what made it so great was riding down a waterslide ride with a babysitter. I would want to be a part of my daughter's best memories.


It is really sad that in order for Mady to have had the best day of her life involved the activity with the Nanny. Them having a nanny does not bother me in the least, considering their Mother, and the situation in which they are growing up. Hell, I would not even care if it was a live in. We know the shitty way in which they are being brought up-Mom and Dad aren't around much, so the more rational and stable care the kids can get is a plus! I hope Jenny is able to bond with the big girls, because I think they need a friend, confidant etc. My only concern is how long will Jenny be around!

Jon and Kate not taking suits to play with their kids, especially since they did alot of helpers was just a dud. Kids want their parents to play with them and have fun. And they could have cooled off. Kate probably didn't want to get into the germy water, and who knows if she instructed Jon not to either.

Poster you are right, how easy would it have been for Jon to wear a pair of board shorts and be able to get wet...same with the Queen.

Nobody bothered to tell Jenny to wear a suit I guess. She was fully clothed! I hope they are paying her very, very well.

Again, boring, boring show. I would rather just see the kids playing with bugs in the garage.

P.S. I think we are seeing a Mady that is refusing to "talk" for the most part. Her way of saying F**K you to the cameras and her parents....JMO!

Anonymous said...

If you think about it, Kate is very limited, and Jon has to take care of her almost as if she were a child.

Yes, and yet she's the one who refers to him as her 9th child.

Another example of irony: She reprimanded him to "stop looking at [his] physique," yet she is the one constantly harping on his weight, his lack of hair, etc. What's he supposed to do? Pay attention to how he looks or not?

I also tend to agree that the sedate-appearing interview Kate was a result of her knowing about all the recent negative press about her. Just like her comment about how the 'tups use the "big potty" now was an attempt to repair their image after they read comment after comment about the inappropriateness of kids their age still using potties.

All in all, as a stand-alone episode, yesterday wasn't too bad. It takes being aware of Kate's background (by hearing first-hand accounts or watching past eps) to really take full notice of her belittling comments toward Jon. I believe this is the second time we've seen a really horrible episode as far as family dynamics go followed by a passable, borderline-normal one. It makes me think the producers are pandering to both sets of constituent viewers: the "haters" and the "lovers."

Anonymous said...

At that moment, she became different than the girls' mom because she thought "to hell with it" and sat down. She's willing to get a little wet to let the girls have fun and they apparently had a blast!

Well, to be fair, Jenny is getting paid for it. So maybe Kate would let the kids have fun if she were getting paid too? Oh wait--she is.

Nancy said...

I re-watched the Sunny Day epi just now, and noted that the credits at the end of the show have some totally different names than I normally see. I think perhaps the crew members have changed more than we thought.

Anonymous said...

What about Kate brushing Alexis' hair and telling her she was going to cut it like the boys hair. Alexis kept telling her no. Hannah is the one who screams and yells every time Kate brushes her hair and will not let her put it up out of her face. Alexis and Collin are my favorites, but they along with Joel are not treated fairly in my book. The thought of putting a child the age of Alexis in the basement to sleep by herself is terrible. Why not fix up the room off the kitchen where Mady and Cara's desk are for Alexis to sleep in so she would at least be close to Mom and Dad. It seems like Alexis is always being separated from the other girls on purpose, which only causes Leah and Hannah to be closer. I guess the saying is true "two's company, three's a crowd. I have never posted before hope this goes through.

Lynn/Anon1967 said...

As I wrote before, I'm so glad the kids had such a great time, but after watching it again, because I almost didn't watch it last night after the first few minutes, it upset me when they killed the spider..I know, it's bad, but it did..lol
Did anyone notice when Jon was backing out and didn't remember the van was behind him? The other thing that bothered me was that they are obviously still using the little potties "someone pooped in the potty", how uncomfortable must that be sitting on those things!
They also must have brought one with them in the van, because they asked one of the kids if they wanted to get in and go to the potty, instead of going inside and using the potty.
I'm wondering if they have a rule that they can only use the big potty if they have to poo, it's just odd...
But it was still so nice to see what I tune in to see, is the smiles on the kids faces.

Chris said...

Ithink Kate looking at Jon so much during the interview chair was so she could catch him rolling his eyes, quietly laughing at her, looking at Jen the way he does when Kate says something stupid, etc. She must of rewatched some episodes and caught things he was doing while she was blabbering endlessly recapping the shows, totally unaware of the faces Jon would make. Makes her look stupid, you know?

[b]I did notice that Kate seemed different in the interviews. I thought it was most likely due to having read all the nasty stuff thats written about her on the internet. I know if I was being attacked on a daily basis for saying and doing things I would probably not feel comfortable being myself.[/b]

Oh but remember, according to Kate, they don't have time to read all that negative stuff? Plus the explosion of negative stuff has happened in the past month or so (with the backlash because of Aunt Jodi being off the show, Aunt Jodi's sister's blog and the National Enquirer article(s).) This episode was filmed before all that, in June.

Anonymous said...

In regards to the comments about the 'tight' camara work. Is it possible that this episode was filmed with tighter shots because they didn't want to have to blur out all the other visitors faces and what not. I thought that if you were filmed, even in the background, if your face was in a shot they had to have permission to use it. Just a thought, i still haven't seen this episode yet though so i'm just going on a whim

Anonymous said...

"Someone could make a drinking game out of how many insults Kate gave Jon in this episode."

Shall we include all the times Jon insults Kate, as well? He is almost as frequent an offender as she is.

eponine said...

There were *other* people at the amusement park! OMG you mean TLC didn't arrange to have the whole park closed for the royal family?! amazing.

eponine said...

PS I'm glad Cara and Maddy ended up having fun, but *again* why were they dragged to something that was targeted at the tups? When do the tups get to be dragged to something that is targeted at the older kids?

iluveeyore said...

I still say "strollers"? WTF? In the parking lot, were those kids sitting on potties in the strollers?!? Are there no toilets in the park? How GROSS!

I noticed that people said this episode was not as bad as usual (which isn't really saying much). The first 5 minutes blew my mind and I wondered if everyone was watching the same show I was.

Still using potties at home??? The kids knees must be around their ears when they're using potties. And as for whether or not Aaden was the "culprit"... who pooped in a potty... what difference did it make? Jon badgered Aaden to confess, and then did absolutely nothing about it. He could have said something like "We don't do that any more, buddy. Don't do it again -- OK?" But he said nothing. What was the point? Humiliating the kid on camera?

What's with dressing the kids? Four year olds should pretty much dress themselves! First we dress the kids... then we dress Mr. Kate. Then we yell orders to Mr. Kate to get the kids out of the house.

I think it's interesting that Kate said she had a talk with the twins before the trip -- which ALMOST decreased Mady's meltdowns. I'm glad Kate finally had "the talk." I've said before that she should do that with all the kids before going anyplace -- discuss the behavior that is expected. Other than announcing that she was ready to go sit in the van and ride for 2 hours to get home, Mady seemed to do great. Go Mady.

SmartyQ said...

But those earrings that Kate wore at an amusement park???? What's up with long, dangling, fake diamond earrings when you are going to see Elmo and a goldfish??
They aren’t fake diamonds; they’re Quaker puffed rice on wires. I think Katie agrees with another Katie (Katie Scarlett O’Hara) that dancing earrings give a girl an air.

I'm sure they have feelings and reading this stuff about them (true or untrue) has got to hurt. After reading your comment, I thought about Harry Truman’s comment, ‘If you can’t stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.’ After seeing repeated examples of the way Kate treats others, I thought that, to her, the Golden Rule had morphed into the Base Metal Rule.

Anonymous said...

Stephanie said "And at the end when she said they'd been "invited back" to the park. Um, you don't need to be invited to go to a theme park, Kate. Well you do if you expect to go for free." The thing is, just like they have greeters at Walmart, they have people who will say "Come back and see us soon" or something like that.

Maybe one of the park attendants made that comment and they are not getting invited back per se. Maybe they were actually invited back, but we've already seen them in that park, so I'm not sure why they would have to go back and re-shoot there.

But, at this point, what else is in PA? They've done every kind of little thing in their area. So what else can they do?

FIONA said...

Reagrding the crew,

I thought I saw Scott's name, the camera man on the credits for the new TLC show Married with Kids (?)

I agree, let the twins do more activities geared to them. They should be playing soccer, taking dance, swimming lessons etc....

As far as Kate, "feeling bad" about the negative crap pouring on them....I do not think she feels bad, like we think of feeling bad. I don't think she is capable of remorse, or anything close to empathy. I would LOVE to be wrong, but I don't think that I am.

The show makes me uncomfortable to watch. I need to stop.

mollybloom said...

Regarding "nasty" things people say about Kate and Jon on the internet and in print, I appreciate that some people feel that if you can't say something nice, you shouldn't say anything at all. However, Jon and Kate air their dirty laundry in public and are making tons of money doing it. I have no problem criticizing Jon and Kate, Inc. If they don't want negative press, then they should close down the circus or simply not pay attention to what's said. With any devil's deal, there's a price to pay. If Jon and Kate are insulted, it's their problem. And that of the their unfortunate PR company.

Anonymous said...

Neither Jon and Kate are perfect- but I think that they did make a conscious effort to make it a pleasant day for the kids. Of course people are going to find things wrong that they did, if you are really looking for them.

Why can't we all just chalk this up to a fun experiece that the kids had and move on?

Anonymous said...

Some of you posters don't make sense. Why are you surprised that Jon & Kate get special treatment? Like it or not they are famous. It is not safe for them to stand in line with everyone else. The 10 of them plus crew would cause such a ruckus that it would inhibit the rest of the park visitors. Not to mention the young children would probably be scared by all of the commotion.

Would you expect Brad & Angelina to wait in line with their kids?

Heather said...

Seriously! These kids are 4 years old and still use a potty in the car?!?!? Ewwwwwww. Talk about lack of privacy.

And not dressing themselves!

I certainly hope they go to preschool this year to learn to interact with other kids, and how non-normal their life is. They need to be able to make messes, play with other kids,etc.

I also found it amusing that they did know the characters. A lot more TV watching then was portrayed. Hopefully they are learning more than we know about too.

And how do they explain to the kids that their aunt, uncle, cousins, friends, etc are no longer a part of their lives?!?!

Aren't the twins allowed to have friends? How come they never have a birthday party, playdate?

Anonymous said...

So what else can they do?

Well, it looks like they're going to go to the Strasburg Rail Museum, to North Carolina, and to Hawaii.

I would get a kick out of seeing them visit the Abandoned Pennsylvania Turnpike. I would love to see them riding their Ellen-donated bikes from Breezewood up to Rays Hill Tunnel. Adventurous Jon would want to take the kids through to the other side and Kate would totally FREAK.

Anonymous said...

Regarding all the comments about Mady and her meltdowns. Many of you are saying 'Go Mady' and 'Good for Mady' etc, etc. But I'm wondering if you were in the park with a child that was having a meltdown would you be saying 'Go Suzy', 'Go Billy'? I doubt it. I'm sure many of you would handle it the same way K&J do. Kids get cranky and tired and have meltdowns- whether they are a Gosselin, a Smith, a Jones or a whatever. Being on TV has nothing to do with it.

Anonymous said...

I still say "strollers"? WTF?
Still using potties at home???
What's with dressing the kids? Four year olds should pretty much dress themselves!

---Right on. I have a just-turned-3-year-old and she ditched the strollers, potties, bibs, etc. awhile ago. Do these kids have developmental issues from being 'tup preemie babies, or is Kate overly babying them to keep them cute for the show?

Also, I feel Mady's pain. Everything revolves around the 'tups. Even the family's website is sixgosselins. Mady will be the one who writes the tell-all Mommie Dearest book after years of intensive therapy.

kaylan said...

eponine - actually, the park is more suited for Cara and Mady. Yes, it's a children's park and it's Sesame Street but there have been thousands of kids Cary and Mady's age and all the way up to teens and young adults who have had a blast at that park.

There were a bunch of attractions not shown, keep that in mind. A lot of which are suited for older children and adults.

Anonymous said...

IMO, What we are going to see in the upcoming new episodes is an attempt on the part of TLC to appeal to first time watchers of the show. Unlike previous seasons, we will see a more tolerant and laid back Kate, a progression in the tups from bibs, sippy cups and potties to that of more pre school age appropriate behavior, and less focus on Mady and Cara meltdowns, to name a few. Those who have watched as the as seasons progressed will know better, those who are first time watchers will be none the wiser. It is the latter that TLC is banking their money on to influence positive rating feedback. IMO, The producers of J & K + 8 have come to know what the viewers want to see and what they dont want to see. They know what instigates negative feedback and criticism and what promotes the 'this is what we want to see'. That being said, it is going to be difficult to convince the long time watchers that what we are seeing is a real and natural growth and progression of the family and not one that is contrived and sugar coated for the sake of maintaining the J & K illusion.

iluveeyore said...

I truly believe that Kate is infantilizing the tups to 1) keep them "cuter" longer, 2) show how much work she has to do, and 3) maintain control. Kate loves "babies"; she isn't too into kids.

I'll bet the twins dressed themselves and didn't use potties when they were 4 years old.

As for Jenny -- the first time we saw her she was walking up the driveway and Kate just said she was a "helper." I agree -- Jenny and the twins rode in tubes on the water 4 times. Two of those times, J/K could have gone with them. Since J/K did not have bathing suits on, I'm sure there were lots of other "helpers" besides Jenny (and NOT Beth or Jodi or Carla).

green said...

As a stand alone episode, “Sunny Day” looked to be an enjoyable and fun experience for all the Gosselin children. When Jon mentioned that the security guard had told him it had reached 113 degrees inside the park I was glad to see the point they made to show that they tried to keep the children under some shade, hydrated, and let them take the plunge and get wet in the water park area. There were a few times that the children looked a little flushed especially Colin who’s hair looked very wet with sweat when it was around lunch. They looked so happy in the water park and meeting all the characters especially the goldfish. The children were so endearing from Alexis and her “No” “No!”, Joel’s beautiful smile, Cara and Colin with the spider, Leah Hope Gosselin the victorious spider killer with the American flag, Aaden asking where Grover was, Hannah in the water, Cara and Maddy enjoying the raft ride. All of them enjoying the different rides at the park.

Of course, the downside of the episode was Kate’s digs at Jon about his appearance. It seems like when the camera focuses on her she has this compulsion to belittle her husband. I found it funny that she snaps at Jon for not helping her pass out juice when they have a film crew, Jenny the nanny, helpers (a little entourage) with them. If they are trying to keep up the appearance of the normal struggling family who happen to have a set of twins and sextuplets, maybe they should have edited out the footage of the entourage on the roller coaster. Well, if they were going to do that then they should have also taken out the scenes of them walking past the line of people waiting to get into the park, the line of people waiting to get on the different rides, and any mention of the number of times they rode certain rides over and over.

In my opinion, the episode did seem contrived as if they are addressing comments and observations made on certain forums. The checklist:
1. Show Jon talking more in couch interviews without Kate interrupting him or monopolizing the interview.
2. Focus the camera closer to them or film each at a closer angle so the viewer cannot see any distance between them.
3. Jon should be more forceful when reacting to Kate’s comments.
4. Show the children having fun at the activity. (Do not let them be observers.)
5. Have Kate make a point to mention Joel.
6. The twins should be shown not resenting having to go on a “baby” outing and should go on some age appropriate rides (Jenny the nanny can go with them).
7. Kate’s negative comments should be kept to a minimum.
If the show follows its recent formula Kate had a “calm” episode this week so next week should be a “Katie-dramatic” episode that will have the forums buzzing. Of course, all of this is just my opinion.

Anonymous said...

What's up with Kate and her "they need sugar" comments? She says it constantly, and she said it again last night!

Go sugar! Hopefully, it's organic...

Anonymous said...

Would you expect Brad & Angelina to wait in line with their kids?
LOL, yeah, right they are on par with Brad and Angie. Fraid not they are d list if that and can wait their turn.

Beverly said...

YES! The comment about either Jon or Kate not riding with the girls is so-spot on!

My daughter STILL reminds me of the time we went to Sea World and I got soaked to the skin on a ride like that - she thought it was a HOOT! She's 14 now, so it was a good memory for her.

Remembering a ride with a near-stranger - um, like wow I guess.

PS: On a separate tangent, all this paid help: which has to make me wonder how the kids know who is safe now - I can see some strange woman coming up to any of the kids and trying the "Your mommy said you better come with me RIGHT NOW!" EEEEEEEKKKK!!!!! It was better when it was family and friends. Not PAID STRANGERS!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said:
"Would you expect Brad & Angelina to wait in line with their kids?"

Let's not evah compare Brad Pitt to Jon. Nuff said.

Anonymous said...

Robert, that thought did cross my mind about Jenny. She's cute, cute figure too.

Anonymous said...

Wow, I just watched this episode. (Thank you TIVO!) It was beastly hot that day. I live 5 miles from Sesame Place and all of the public and private schools in my district were had an emergency closure because of the heat. I guess the poor Gosselin kids had to subjected to this heat because TLC had scheduled this outing and the show must go on no matter what!

Kortni said...

Katie O said...As far as Kate's hair, aren't you all doing to Kate what Kate does to Jon that we all so despise? You're putting her down for hair, like she puts Jon down for her hair.

I get your point but IMO there is no comparison. I don't think you can't really compare viewers to a spouse. None of us have vowed to love, honor and respect Kate, (and her hair), until death do us part.

Anon 6:32. You are right about Jenny on the slide. I noticed the exact same thing. She hesitated, the attendant said she would get wet, then she settled in for the ride! (3x!) BTW Jenny is cute, Kate better watch out.

Anon 6:44 said...The crew sat with the kids as the parents carried them into the hotel one by one when they fell asleep. I think the crew might really care about them.

It wasn't 'parents', it was Jon. Kate went on to the room alone because she was EXHAUSTED. Jon was the one driving but he still carried in the lion's share of kids. The crew took the rest. I agree, the crew appears to care for the kids. IMO The unfortunate thing is that once the show's over they won't see the kids again--whether they want to or not. Kate would never allow that.

I think the note on their web site is an attempt to make people think all of the silly things he HAS said and done online are not him. Jon has said some really inappropriate things online. He lets his anger get the best of him. (One example of this is a post I saw of his on a message board from 2005.) He even had all of his comments removed on the 'triplet connection' where he was a member for years. I can not prove it but it looks like he has been making his rounds on the Facebook J&K fan site recently. IMO he is trying to cover his tracks.

Anon 7:50 said...She knows that showing a mellow, happy family would bore everybody to tears. People like to see the bad stuff; that's why soap operas are so popular.

Actually, the reason I originally tuned in was to see the cost involved when running such a large family--I wanted to see the numbers. I liked the shopping lists, coupons, # of sticks of butter used per week, lbs of flour per month, Sam's/Costco total being shown at the register, (BTW, Jon had a $50 video game on the cart in that special, it was Call of Duty II for the PC--IIRC). Anyway, it never occurred to me that there would be so much drama or nitpicking, (from Kate). I surely never anticipated so many theme parks, Florida vaca, restaurants, nannies, maids, golf, hair plugs, white teeth, etc. They are not 'just a normal family with an abnormal number of kids' anymore. I am beginning to doubt they ever were.

MrsRef said...

Jon & kate are NOT Brad and Angelina. Brad and Angelina seem to go to extrememes to keep their kids out of the limelight - the Gosselins very existence and livelihood depend on their being in the public eye. They would be total nobody's without their little TLC show. Jon & Kate and their crew should wait in line like everybody else especially the "paying customers" to Sesame Place. I would want my money back if I had to be subjected to that circus.

MrsRef said...

I never understood that whole carrying the kids across the parking lot thing on the way to WDW. Why didn't they just pull the van up to the hotel room, unload the kids and then park the van. Also when we drove to Fla from NJ we left in the middle of the night so the kids would sleep all night. They were entertained during the day and we stopped around 6:00 p.m. at a hotel where they swam in the pool and we all got a good night's sleep. In Gosselinville, everything just has to be a bigger production than necessary. Also, we shared the driving because I know what a highway looks like and can and do drive hither, thither and yon!

Type (little) a said...

I'll bet the twins dressed themselves and didn't use potties when they were 4 years old.

Actually, in the first "surviving sextuplets and twins", They showed Jon putting a potty in the limo for their trip to NYC for the Martha Stewart show. It could only have been for the twins, since the 'tups were only 16 months old then.

foureyes said...

This coming season should be interesting now that the 'tups are entering pre-school. A new phase in their lives...no longer babies.

I think the reason Kate appears 'different' on the interview couch is because there's just too much going on in their lives right now and she's simply tired and a bit overwhelmed. What I find ironic is that Kate, self-named 'introvert', surrounds herself with so many outsiders. This does not scream introvert to me. Kate is not introverted. Kate is spoiled.

IMO the reason Kate picks on Jon is because she's frustrated he does not want another baby. So to vent her anger she finds faults with him. Remember when they went shopping for the 'tups beds and Jon said 'No, we're not having more kids!' I'm sure this wasn't the first and only time it's been brought up. And it won't be the last. There's still a vow renewal and 2nd honeymoon is Hawaii coming up.

Anonymous said...

''Type (little) a said...
I'll bet the twins dressed themselves and didn't use potties when they were 4 years old.''

''Actually, in the first "surviving sextuplets and twins", They showed Jon putting a potty in the limo for their trip to NYC for the Martha Stewart show. It could only have been for the twins, since the 'tups were only 16 months old then.''

Yeah but just because you see a potty in the car or a limo doesnt mean they use a potty at home all the time. Maybe they bring the potty along on long car rides so they dont have to be looking for bathrooms all the time. (Altho if a kid poops in a potty along the side of the road what do they do with it? Maybe I shouldnt ask...)

Anonymous said...

Long time lurker here and first time commenter...I just watched "Sunny Day" on tivo and wanted to make a couple of observations. Hannah did have her hair pulled up for part of the day in a ponytail. Also, I noticed that they had much more than just hot dogs & fries for lunch. There was a huge salad on one table (perhaps J & K's "healthy" lunch) and the children had grapes and other fresh fruit on their plates. Mady had cheese pizza and a girl tup had some sort of "chicken salad"? on a croissant. Looked like yummy food not your usual park fare. My wish for J & K is that they realize how hurtful their comments are to each other. Their children may not say anything but are listening and will treat their spouse that way someday. The best thing a parent can give to their child is to love and respect their mommy or daddy. The hurt in Jon's eyes is obvious. It makes me sad for them.

Mimi said...

I think I actually heard Jon, in the interview chair, say in response to Kate correcting him on something minor: "I can say whatever I want" (or words to that effect). And he didn't say it under his breath like he normally does in response to Kate's corrections.

If I really did hear that, and it wasn't just wishful thinking on my part then "GO JON!!!"

nocupcakeforyou said...

Booorrrrrrring. Is this even a reality show anymore? What about this episode makes this different than a scripted series? Absolutely everything is tempered, edited, and contrived to create the show. There is little to no spontaneity or authenticity here. I am sure that is what they want and what appeals to sheeple. Oh, and is someone with such advanced OCD really going to slide their ass down some tube filled with pee and all sorts of other nasty stuff. Baaaaaaaaa.

BarbieFan said...

I liked this episode...especially the spider part. Leah was so proud when she killed the spider. I know it bothered some people, but usually girls (myself included) are afraid of spiders no matter the size. There were some laugh out loud moments.

Kortni said...

Chris, you mentioned National Enquirer article(s). Were they in NE again?

Anon 1:03 said...Yeah but just because you see a potty in the car or a limo doesnt mean they use a potty at home all the time.

IMO It's safe to assume they use the training potties at home all the time, (at least for #1). I say this because of the scene in the beginning of this episode, (when Aaden pooped in the little potty), and at the end of the episode when someone mentioned using the potty in the car, (while still on Sesame Place property)--Restrooms were available both times.

You're right, what do they do with it? We know from previous shows that some of the urine sloshes out. I remember seeing Jon cleaning it off the floorboards before the Disney trip, yuck!

As a mother, I have never used a training potty. It was just easier to lift them up or put a steping stool in front of the toilets.

Whitney said...

There's still a vow renewal and 2nd honeymoon is Hawaii coming up.

I haven't heard that comment except for Kate mentioning it offhandedly in the Utah trip. And in predictions of this site. Maybe I just missed the actual information.

___

Considering this episode I did suprisingly enjoy it. They seemed genuine.

Considering the interview chair. I thought that Kate was more subdued and Jon was taking more part in speaking. This is just a guess, but I got the feeling that Jon might have set his foot down once and for all. Even if it happened off camera doesn't mean that it wouldn't happen. Jon strikes me as the type of individual that would rather work things out in privacy and not in the heat of the moment.

Its possible that something could have happened between the filming at the park and the interview chair. Just a thought however...and probably it doesn't right true.

Anonymous said...

I agree with the poster that said the children are hearing their parents hurtful and demeaning remarks towards each other. I am not giving them a free pass on this one because they have 8 children and 'that's the way they communicate'. Children learn by example!! I would certainly hate to see these children as they get older use words such as, stupid, fat, mean, lazy etc as part of their every day language towards each other. I grew up in a family of six children and my parents NEVER tolerated words of disrespect in our home. Perhaps J & K should get off their celebrity high horse and get back down to the basics of being parental role models and show some respect towards each other.

Christi said...

Did I see this right? Did Kate direct Jon to get out of the van and move the white car, before they could leave their driveway?

I thought I heard her tell him to do a 3-point turn in the driveway, so he wouldn't have to get out of the van and move the other car. But I could be wrong - the sound quality wasn't great.

Kate, Kate, Kate. I think that she made an effort and had moments of not hating it.
Didn't she say at the end that both parents enjoyed it, but one more than the other (or something to that effect)? And then Jon said he really enjoyed SP, so Kate sort of contradicted herself and said she really did, too. That was just an(other) awkward couch sentence.

onlythrugrace1 said...

this is really repetetive....let's load up the kids and haul them miles away to spend the day at an amusement park (remember Dutch World, Chocolate World, the Crayola Factory) whether they like it or not. Of course this is the premier product placement and you know it's all freebies. So we watch them ride the rides, fight, scream, and argue. These kids will not have a clue what a normal family life is like...hanging out in the backyard, cookouts, family dinners, reunions, lazy days where mom and dad catch up on reading books and magazines...where Saturdays maybe everyone goes for a long walk around the neighborhood or to the park. Just everyday stuff. That's the worst part, just like the poster who brought up The Truman Show said. They will never know that most people have to stand in line at Disney World (or pay to go to the front). They'll never know about getting up in the morning without cameras recording their every move. Anyway, the kids are adorable now but what will they be like when they're 16? I fear their parent's sense of entitlement will rub off on them without them ever even knowing it.

Also, got my PEOPLE in the mail today and there they are: Jon and Kate plus 8 giving advice to Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie on how to effectively handle a houseful of kids!! Kate and Jon, the experts!

I also noticed their website has a new "note" to their fans...less inflammatory but still reminding all of us that they alone speak for the franchise. And of course that's what this is, a franchise.

Thanks for a great website. It was amazing to find out that I wasn't alone in how I went from being a fan to being abhorred by Kate's behavior, and both Jon and Kate's use of their privacy to pay their way. Great blog :)

Anonymous said...

It's quite interesting to me how many HYPOCRITES there are posting and commenting on this blog. Almost everyone on this site is so anti-j&k, or at least they 'claim' to be just concerned about the kids. Those of you who say you're disgusted that these kids are being exploited. So, why is it that everyone is still tuning in to the show each week? Why is it that I see episode recaps and comments to go along with the recaps? If you're soooo 'concerned' about the children..don't you think you should be doing something about it? In the very least, just stop watching the show. You're only adding ratings to the show..and encouraging TLC to keep it on TV. Just my humble opinion.

Christi said...

And as for whether or not Aaden was the "culprit"... who pooped in a potty... what difference did it make? Jon badgered Aaden to confess, and then did absolutely nothing about it.

What was the problem, and the point, of this scene? I must have missed something, because J&K were trying to figure out which boy pooped. Jon was asking Aaden if he did it, but said something like "I don't care if you did or not, just tell me." Which is a totally contradictory sentence. Did a boy poop in a girls' potty or something? (Assuming they have girl-pottys and boy-pottys.) And if you don't care, then why ask?

Yes, I'm confused. But I'm not about to watch the show again to figure it out. :)

eponine said...

Well I'm glad that it's more targeted to Maddy and Cara. I've never been to Sesame Place, but I assumed it would be more of a pre-school attraction since that's what I assume age watches Sesame Street.

It did look like they were only showing the tups-related activities, and I hope they have more older kids stuff. They did look like they had a blast at the water park, and it didn't look that crowded to me. Again, I might have my view skewed since they probably didn't have to wait in line and the cameras were cutting close to not have to blur everyone's faces out....

WatchOverThem said...

Anon 2:34:

Do you really think that if the few of us that advocate on this board on behalf of the Gosselin children, and others in the business, were to quit watching the show it would do more good by lowering ratings by a few miniscule percents than the messages we try to communicate about the possible trouble with this quickly growing reality TV industry and the issues it's creating for children? How do you know that this is our only avenue for working toward better protection for these children and children like them to come? How can those of us that ARE trying to do something positive be doing a bad thing by watching the show, to be informed of it's progress and the direction it's taking within the industry? You think it would be better for us to bury our heads in the sand and act as though nothing could be changed to benefit children in our society regarding these reality television issues?

I scratch my head and wonder why anyone would be so passive regarding children's rights to privacy, decency, respect, income if it's made specifically because of their participation in the business and a childhood. If it's so bothersome to you to hear our ideas, perhaps you should do as you are encouraging us to do by not watching the show, and just not spend time here, where we are simply sharing a diverse quantity of ideas from a diverse group of people.

Anonymous said...

'These kids will not have a clue what a normal family life is like...hanging out in the backyard, cookouts, family dinners, reunions, lazy days where mom and dad catch up on reading books and magazines...where Saturdays maybe everyone goes for a long walk around the neighborhood or to the park. Just everyday stuff. '

This trip was just a day or so out of their lives as was Disney, Crayola and the other trips. Ever consider that they did the walk to the park or maybe a cookout or hangout in the backyard the day before or after they got home? We are not seeing 100% of their lives in this show. The crew does not tape every single day. Some of you are talking this show way too literally.

Anonymous said...

watchoverthem...notice i said AT THE VERY LEAST...stop watching the show, meaning there's much more to do than that.

MrsRef said...

By their own admission, they film at least 3 days a week and then the parents go at least two weekends a month to speaking engagements. That doesn't leave very much time to do normal things that others do. Then again, since the parents don't work outside the home like normal parents, there are a few more days in the month to do normal things. Somehow I doubt the parents do anything normal, other than run the family business which is there children.

WatchOverThem said...

Anon 2:52:

Now when you say you see many hypocrites here, and the very LEAST we should do is stop watching the show, you then turn around and comment that there is much more to do than simply stop watching the show. You are contradicting yourself. Yes, there are those that are doing more than simply watching the show and working behind the scenes in a larger capacity. To stop watching the show would be like telling some of these individuals that are working in other avenues, as well, to stop watching the children assigned to them, if they were caseworkers, because by watching the children you are charged with, you are bringing more attention to them and their issues, and if you ignore the child, the issues will magically disappear.

The caseworker thing is JUST an example, no need to jump on the example used to communicate an idea with thoughts of horror :-)

eponine said...

Hay there anon 2:34 PM that's why it's GosselinsWithoutPity!

iluveeyore said...

During the episode when J/K go shopping for clothes for Kate, don't they say that Kate has no fashion sense? So in this episode, why is she the one who has to approve Jon's shirt?

She is also the one who selects the kids' clothes... down to their shoes.

I guess every episode has to be considered "stand alone." Their comments don't make sense from one week to another.

WatchOverThem said...

iluveeyore--Figure 8 may need to create a better playbook for J&K! One with picture diagrams for Kate, because she just doesn't read (recipes and the like). But wait...she must read online!!!!!!!!

AireZoe said...

What was the problem, and the point, of this scene? I must have missed something, because J&K were trying to figure out which boy pooped. Jon was asking Aaden if he did it, but said something like "I don't care if you did or not, just tell me." Which is a totally contradictory sentence. Did a boy poop in a girls' potty or something? (Assuming they have girl-pottys and boy-pottys.) And if you don't care, then why ask?


Because, let's face it, it's not an episode of Jon & Kate + 8 if we don't hear about or see poop. Plain and simple.
It was pointless, unless you think, like I do, that this was a response to Internet chatter about methods they use to keep the kids babies.
We were treated to that scene to let viewers know that, see, the tups are using "big" potties.
Otherwise, I'd have to call it filler material.

Anonymous said...

''By their own admission, they film at least 3 days a week and then the parents go at least two weekends a month to speaking engagements. That doesn't leave very much time to do normal things that others do. Then again, since the parents don't work outside the home like normal parents, there are a few more days in the month to do normal things. Somehow I doubt the parents do anything normal, other than run the family business which is there children.''

I doubt they film at least 3 days a week every week of the year. That would be hours and hours of taping. And the recent shows have all taken place on one day. (kids special day, trips to the park) They would just need to film one day for those shows. But even at three days a week on average, and K&J gone every other weekend that is less than half the time. Plenty of time to do other things. Maybe Figure 8 just thinks those other things are too dull to show.

Anonymous said...

"ANON said: But someone please tell me what "it was blazingly naptime" means?
Yes, I asked myself the same thing when I heard it. Besides the totally bizarre choice of adverb - why do kids who are four years old need a nap? They may need it on some days - but four year olds do not nap routinely/regularly, do they?"


I think Kate probably meant it was time for HER nap. LOL

Anonymous said...

I also noticed that Kate was different in the chair last night. What I sensed was that she looked like someone who was "hurt" but was keeping up the pretense that it was a regular day. Maybe she had been warned that the show is going down the drain on the current track that it's on.
She has a REAL deep-seated anger towards Jon. How can you possibly belittle a man because his hair is thinning? That happens to so many men. It is NOT their choice...so how can she keep harping on that? Everyone who mentions that she has had surgery to correct her physical faults is right. How can she mimick him? Does she think that he doesn't have any feelings? I think she is going to have a full-blown breakdown. And, yes, the other readers are right. The background/chair scene was different in physical appearance. I noticed that right away. Well, today I sent Kate an email, explaining that I had watched the Nanny show just before her show; and how the nanny stressed to the family that ALL family members should speak to one another with respect. I also asked her to please let her kids have fun, as people are washable, and markers, etc...are all washable. I remember on one episode, she mentioned that they wanted the kids to experience everything, because Jon always DID, with his family, and she didn't go anywhere or do anything...so they both wanted their kids to try everything, go places, etc...Well, the show is sending them places, but she can't allow the kids to do certain things. She can't let them. Also, yes, they had 8 kids at the Sesame park. So...lots of people could be there with their 4 kids, and their friend could be there with 8 kids. But both regular families would wait in line, even though together, they would be a crowd. The whole concept of watching the show used to be to see how jaw-dropping it must be to tend to all these babies. Now, everything is "staged". That's not what we bargained for. And it doesn't hold the interest of viewers. Some say, "Why are you watching?" Well, truthfully, we're not watching very often anymore...and will probably not watch again.
It reminds me of these women who have a legitimate gripe...a president or someone takes advantage of them...they garner the pity of the public...then they become tainted...they have implants, face surgery, and begin working on 900 calls...they change completely, and not for the better. Something becomes topsy turvy. Is that what becoming known in the news does to everyone? I love those other sweet, large families which are shown sometimes on TV.

andi said...

I understand that people have issues with the way the Gosselins handle their children and the way they treat each other. However, I feel that many entries are making fun of silly little things that have nothing to do with their parenting. Is her hair style, clothing, the way she does her children's hair, whether she reads a recipe, etc. valid or hurt their children in any way?? It's almost like high school where you pick on every little thing about someone and beat them down. For what? To make yourself feel better? To get some type of pleasure from their pain?

I agree that she isn't always nice to Jon and that it's not the "normal" life we may want for our children...but look on the flipside, those children are being able to experience things and do things that they normally couldn't do without the show. They are enjoying themselves and hopefully they don't grow up feeling entitled. But, children who grow up in a wealthy family always feel a huge sense of entitlement but we look at them as "lucky."

My hope is that they take the good from their parents (because there are good things about them) and grow up to be normal, happy and loving adults. I believe deep down, that that's what the Gosselins want for them as well.

Anonymous said...

During the episode when J/K go shopping for clothes for Kate, don't they say that Kate has no fashion sense? So in this episode, why is she the one who has to approve Jon's shirt?
I thought the exact same thing! Why was it necessary for Jon to put on his hallway fashion show for Kate to give approval of what he should wear, when she is the one who admits to having no fashion sense?! Just wear the Peter Pan costume Jon, it fits you so perfectly! For someone that claims to have zero fashion sense, she sure likes to TELL others what they should or should not not wear.

Anonymous said...

Just wanted to say that I thought the scene with Aaden was cute...couldn't that be why it was included? His face was priceless.

I'm neither a Kate hater or supporter, but I don't blame her for not wanting to put on a bathing suit in front of millions of viewers. Especially when people online are making fun of her. (Which by the way, is ridiculous. While her parenting methods are suspect and her comments on Jon's appearance are rude, to say that Kate has a fat or "ever-expanding" ass is ridiculous.)

iluveeyore said...

First of all, we have seen Kate in a bathing suit... when they went to the Florida Keys... and that show is repeatedly shown. She didn't seem to mind it then.

Secondly, another production faux pas: When the kids were playing with the "spider," I could swear it was an ant. Whatever. However, again we have a disjointed situation. Jon describes how Alexis (?) STEPPED ON the spider, and ground it into the concrete. We all saw Alexis kill the "spider" with the tip of her flag. What the heck was going on? Was Jon in a parallel universe? Production has to start getting their act together or even the folks who adore the Gosselins are going to get suspicious.

Anonymous said...

"There is a new "comment" up on K&J website. Seems to be a littler nicer, so it was most likely written by the PR people.

Unless you are visiting this site, www.sixgosselins.com or TLC’s website, you will not be reading official information about our family.

There are many imposters, people who are claiming to be us, answering emails, chatting online claiming to be us or writing about us…None of these are us! Just so you know!!'!

If any of you good bloggers find you ever need a PR firm, don't hire J&K's people, who can't even spell "impostors". :D

Anonymous said...

andie said:
"I understand that people have issues with the way the Gosselins handle their children and the way they treat each other. However, I feel that many entries are making fun of silly little things that have nothing to do with their parenting. Is her hair style, clothing, the way she does her children's hair, whether she reads a recipe, etc. valid or hurt their children in any way?? "

Comments referring to Kates hair style, earring choice et are snark comments. An observation not to be taken seriously and in the jest of humor.

Kristee said...

Anonymous said:
"Would you expect Brad & Angelina to wait in line with their kids?"

LOL!! First, they are not even close to being the celebrities Brad and Angie are. Second, and perhaps the biggest difference between the two: Brad and Angie GIVE lots to charity, and J n K only know how to take, take, take. I can't even recall an instance where Jon n Kate have ever given back anything.

Anonymous said...

"Production has to start getting their act together or even the folks who adore the Gosselins are going to get suspicious."

A WTF observation on this topic:
During the boys day out/monkey munch episode, Kate is seen leaving the house, driving to, and parking the white van in the grocery store parking lot. However, when she leaves the store, she loads the kids and drives away in what appears to be their black Urban Assault Vehicle. How in the heck did she get to the store in the white van and leave in the black vehicle?? Perhaps someone that has this episode tivo'd can confirm or correct me if I am wrong.

sistah2 said...

"They are enjoying themselves and hopefully they don't grow up feeling entitled. But, children who grow up in a wealthy family always feel a huge sense of entitlement but we look at them as "lucky."

...Puh-leeze! I don't look at "wealthy" children who feel at "huge sense of entitlement" as "lucky" . First of all, some wealthy people do not feel entitled. There is a difference. The Gosselin kids are in a unique situation where they never pay for things, wait in line, get private tours, places cleared out for them, etc. because they are reality TV stars, but do they really understand that? NO. Who knows if J&K have thought that far ahead and will plan on how to parent them when the fame fades and they dont understand why everything's changed. It seems the kids best interests have never been the priority, so why start now? With the new tv set/isolated home, it seems the kids will sink further into a non-realistic life (ironic isn't it? For a reality show).

iluveeyore said...

I suspect that that little announcement was written by Jon/Kate. The !!!!!! always give it away.

(I guess we won't be seeing the !!! and more ;))

Anonymous said...

Kind of off topic, but I wonder why the reason she's so anal about the kids clothes staying clean is because she resells them on Ebay? I'm able to pull up her rating (perfect 100% feedback) but I can't see her user ID name because of privacy reasons. I wonder if she resells her kids clothes on Ebay, among other free items. It's her right I guess, but curiosity has me wondering ever since one of her "friends" posted on another site she gave the twins matching Gap coats and that they would be showing them wearing them on the past season but she never saw them and wondered what happened to them. I wonder if Kate donates the clothes to charity or is a little more discreet and uses Ebay as well as the consignment shop?

Anonymous said...

"I can't even recall an instance where Jon n Kate have ever given back anything."

Oh, but you mustn't forget that time when Jonathan graciously donated his striped sweater to charity, and made sure we all knew it.

Anonymous said...

ANON 2:52 said: This trip was just a day or so out of their lives as was Disney, Crayola and the other trips. Ever consider that they did the walk to the park or maybe a cookout or hangout in the backyard the day before or after they got home? We are not seeing 100% of their lives in this show. The crew does not tape every single day. Some of you are talking this show way too literally.

Frankly, I do not think so. What you fail to realize is that the lives of these kids has been radically altered - even on off-camera days. Now that J&K see the even bigger and better ongoing payoff from the proverbial gravy train as child pimpers, their lives revolve around $$$, freebies, and wheeling and dealing with TLC, Zondervan, and that goofy Julie Carson May, their "handler." When all your energy goes into this, how is there time left for normal family life - e.g. laid back summer days in the backyard drinking Koolaid, going to friends' houses to play, going to girl scout camp, etc. How can these kids have normal lives???? Do you think Mady and Cara have the summer off from school? No - they do not. Their time is booked to work on camera and that's it. And it's not fair, not right, and just plain horrible.

Anonymous said...

TLC is playing this family. Using them as marionettes. TLC loves us to hate this family.

MonkeyPrincess said...

"Kate said something like,"Alexis is the only one who knows ALL the (Sesame Street) characters. She lives her life in T.V. Land.' "

Okay, I was thinking "Aren't they ALL living their life in tv land?!?"

Poor Aaden - he was crying so sad at the end. Hopefully, it was just over tired/over stimulated from the day and not wanting to leave crying.

As far as the swimsuit in the car thing...yes, Kate is dramatic "two hours" is way overboard to get all the kids in the van. But, I have five kids and I know it takes a good 10 minutes or more to get moving. And from a water park? She probably got everyone in their seat and had them come to her one at a time to get dressed for the ride home. Aren't we glad they didn't show them getting dressed on national tv? I mean, come on...this show is 22 minutes of the how ever many hours it took for them to get ready, get there, be there and come home. Of course we aren't going to see eveything! And they cut out the stuff everyone is complaining about (naked kids).

And eating? I think it was crowd control. Isn't everyones first choice to sit in the least occupied spot in the eating area? Eating with 8 kids who are probably really just wanting to get going to the rides, etc. in front of a strangers who will no doubt stop and stare, talk to the kids and/or Kate and Jon. I'm sorry, but this is not something I think they should turn down.

I agree Kate should've been in a suit with the twins, going down the slide. At least once! She got in a suit for Jon's birthday in the Keys...what's up with that?

I don't begrudge them the extra help at the park. Especially now, with their profile. I think its safer to have a bunch of people to help round up the kids. I get nervous taking my five kids to parks like that...and they have kids that are obsessed over, its got to be much scarier.

Oh, and the topic of the twins. Again, we are only seeing a few minutes of time with this family - just because we don't see them hanging out with friends on the show doesn't mean they don't have time with their peers. It's not like we're watching a live action cam in their house! And we have seen plenty just about the twins - American Doll trip, baking class, violin and piano, getting their portfolio done for fun...

I also think that something was really off about the interview. Kate looked totally spaced out. And Jon got to talk! Oh, and did anyone else notice the couch difference - its so much wider than before. In the earlier ones, they are like right on top of each other.

What about Jenny - she's allowed to get paid, but not Aunt Jodi? That sucks - for all of them.

I think, as with anyone, Kate's put downs of Jon are really about her. She seeks approval or validation from any old camera guy or producer thats around. I think she makes comments about her kids because she feels inadequete - like they/we will think something undesirable of them so she has to say something about it first. Kind of like the fat kid who makes fun of himself before the other kids do. :(

Sorry for the book!

Anonymous said...

I think that entire skit with Jon trying on shirts was a total scripted moment.

Chris said...

I totally agree TLC loves us to hate this family. They're laughing all the way to the bank while we watch this family dismantle and be destroyed by fame, $$$ and Kate.

Andi said...

ANON 4:50 wrote...

"Comments referring to Kates hair style, earring choice et are snark comments. An observation not to be taken seriously and in the jest of humor."


Again, is it really necessary???


Sistah2 wrote..

"Who knows if J&K have thought that far ahead and will plan on how to parent them when the fame fades and they dont understand why everything's changed"


That's for them to fix and worry about, not us. I'm sure they will figure out a way to move on with their lives...

"It seems the kids best interests have never been the priority, so why start now"

I don't agree. I truly believe that a big reason why they accept the free things is because it gives their children joy and they enjoy seeing them happy and having fun(like any parent would). And just because they have a reality show, doesn't mean that their children aren't their first priority or that they don't care about their well being. Now, we are accusing people of thoughts and feelings that they may have just because we get a glimpse of their life on TV once a week.

"The Gosselin kids are in a unique situation where they never pay for things, wait in line, get private tours, places cleared out for them, etc. because they are reality TV stars, but do they really understand that"

I do agree that they shouldn't always have "free" access to the parks and to the stores they visit. It really isn't reality, but like I said...sooner or later they will realize that and then it's up to jon and kate to pick up the pieces. Honestly though, I'm not going to lose sleep over it.

Anonymous said...

In response to : "Do you think Mady and Cara have the summer off from school? No - they do not. Their time is booked to work on camera and that's it. And it's not fair, not right, and just plain horrible".
Their time is not only booked to work on camera, but I do believe the twins are scheduled to appear at one of J & K speaking engagements. Before anyone responds with , 'well its only one speaking engagement'. Its not like their appearance will only take up a few hours of Mady and Cara's time. There is the time and stress involved in travel and preparation days before and the time and travel returning home. Not to mention the disruption to their routine and overall sense of security. IMO in true J & K form, having the twins involved in speaking engagements will not be limited to a one time thing. If there is a potential for money to be made by way of the twins, you bet your ass they will put them to work! They will be forced to pull their weight just like the other 6 little money makers.

Anonymous said...

I think Kate is bored with the whole thing and that's why she looked a little off in the interview chair. I imagine it's draining (exhausting?) being angry all the time so maybe she just checked out mentally for this interview session.

I also think their new message on their website has PR rep written all over it. It's the kinder, gentler Kate, complete with smiley face at the end. Quite a contrast with the one "personally written" by Jon and Kate.

I also have to say that I thought Jon was looking pretty trim in this episode. As much as Kate got on his case for being out of shape, I think the better Jon starts looking the more insecure Kate will feel about it all. How long before she starts complaining about the time he spends at the gym or criticizing him for caring what he looks like? Calling him vain, etc. I think we will be hearing more comments along the lines of the stop looking at your physique comment.

On a side note, I was annoyed by the donation of the ugly sweater to Goodwill. Yes, I think they should be giving something back to charity, but at the same time, that's the best they could come up with? I find it ironic since Kate was so incredibly picky with the items she initially accepted from the community, but then she thinks nothing of giving her garbage to someone else and then patting herself on the back. It reminded me of the Seinfeld episode with the muffin tops...

K.C. said...

Anon 6:14, You're right, that is not the only speaking engagement they are dragging them to. The twins will be on display at the Southern Women's Show in Orlando, FL too:

Meet Jon & Kate!
Meet the stars of TLC's reality hit "Jon & Kate Pllus 8" and their eldest twins, Cara and Madelyn! Jon & Kate Gosselin have been blessed with twins and sextuplets in the past three years. They will be appearing on the Fashion & Entertainment Stage on Saturday, October 11th at 1pm.

I assume they will miss 1 day of school, (minimum), to get from PA to Orlando, FL in time for the show on Sat at 1pm.

K.C. said...

Anon 3:32 said...I doubt they film at least 3 days a week every week of the year. That would be hours and hours of taping.

IIRC, In "Behind the Scenes" Kate said they were taping 3 or 4 days a week all year round. She made a comment about people thinking they only film part of the year and have the rest of the year off. While she was saying this they showed clips during various seasons. Then Kate said something like, I assure you this isn't how we do it, we film all year long with the same schedule.

Anon 3:32 said...And the recent shows have all taken place on one day. (kids special day, trips to the park) They would just need to film one day for those shows

I thought Jon & Kate's 'special day' was put together from footage of two separate days. Weren't teeth and dinner done seperately?

Anon 3:32, You also mentioned that the Gosselins have plenty of time to do other things. "Maybe Figure 8 just thinks those other things are too dull to show".

I disagree. If they had film of J&K taking the kids on a walk to the park or having a cookout I guarantee they would show that footage instead of Jon going to the gym, family photo day at Beth & Bob's, watching a movie, etc. I think what we have seen lately IS their 'family time'. (IMO) They do what they are told to do to get the scenes--period. My guess is the rest of their time is spent "running the business", (i.e. speaking, traveling to speak, business calls and meetings, etc.).

Anonymous said...

BarbieFan: My Niece would have probably done the same thing with the ant like Leah did. She hates bugs.

Anonymous said...

I have to say that we go to Sesame alot, and there is not much in terms of healthy food there to eat. I heard though they are making steps to correct this, and to some like me, a hot dog and hamburger is considered "healthy" for my family. And in regard to Kate sometimes looking "out of it" in the chair. They tape these segments late at night as they have stated many times. They also tape sometimes for up to 3 hours! Thats why they yawn, eat jelly beans and Kate herself has said she is out of it from exhaustion. Also Jon has stated that he gets grouchy at night. He looks sometimes like hes half asleep. I feel for them because after taking care of 8 kids all day I would be tired too. Sesame Place IS exhausting, and the show was great this time for the first time in a while. They need to get back to that and not worry if the fans will be bored if they do another simple episode of doing nothing in the house. Sometimes those turn out better than the family trips.

Anonymous said...

"Who knows if J&K have thought that far ahead and will plan on how to parent them when the fame fades and they dont understand why everything's changed"


That's for them to fix and worry about, not us. I'm sure they will figure out a way to move on with their lives...


Actually, this is one of the problems that Paul Petersen's group was created to addressed. Children on TV are frequently inadequately prepared for life after stardom and have problems adjusting. If you were a betting person where do you think J&K would fall: on the side of people being able to cope without a melt down and teaching others how to cope effectively, or on the side that says that J&K have some learning to do about how to cope productively with life's challenges and won't be able to model effective coping skills for their children?

minxie said...

Anonymous said...
Let's not get on Angelina and Brad are superior parents........................
July 29, 2008 8:56 PM
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I thought I was on the wrong blog for a second.

Anyway, back to J and K,,,,,remember how, way back, Kate said they never wanted to "act"? That they wanted to be themselves, authentic, so that they could look at the show as representing their real lives? I do believe someone has had a talk with Kate about being more, um, tolerable. So she is torn between appeasing viewers because she wants the gravy train to continue and being her
old nasty control freak Kate. No wonder she alternates between seeming sullen, subdued and/or fake nice.

SaraJFP said...

Thinking back to the 'Sunny Day' episode, Does anyone recall any kind of sun protection or sunblock being applied to the kidos?

Seeing as J&K stressed numerous times how HOT it was that day, wouldn't they make it a point to show what they did to keep the kids safe?

As I'm sure we all remember the time Kate purposly let herself get burnt in the Florida Keys. So, is it possible she just bypassed applying sunblock because of how 'exhausting and stressful' it would be to do 8 kids?

Just an observation, yet I get more and more annoyed the longer I think about it.

Anonymous said...

SaraJFP said...
Thinking back to the 'Sunny Day' episode, Does anyone recall any kind of sun protection or sunblock being applied to the kidos?

I noticed that too. I thought for sure there would be an obvious Johnson & Johnson children's sunscreen product placement to take place somewhere within the episode. There was attention brought to the fact that the children were kept hydrated and feed, but no emphasis on sunscreen. I have no idea whether J & K did or didnt apply sunscreen to the children that day but considering the typical J & K way, if there was FREE sunscreen to be had viewers would have been well informed of the fact.

Anonymous said...

IMO the underlying reason why we are seeing a more tolerable Kate is because no product/business is going to utilize a raging neurotic lunatic bitch of a mother and wife to endorse their name. J & K's PR team, as ameatur as they are, are working hard to make damn sure that Kate's image is seen as one that is likeable and relatable by viewers, ie consumers in an attempt to sell her likeness in the form of advertising/endorsing products.

Anonymous said...

"As I'm sure we all remember the time Kate purposly let herself get burnt in the Florida Keys. "

Not to go off topic, but when I read your statement,Sara, I just realized that Kate probably got sun burned as a way to control something about the trip. She is a control freak so perhaps she did it as a way to cut the trip short or as a way to get attention since it was Jon's b-day trip and he was the focus?

Just a thought. For someone who was in the medical field to be so foolish to allow themselves to get sunburned just does not make any sense to me.

Anonymous said...

Did anyone notice that the boys were wearing Sesame Street bathing suits?? Do you think J & K actually bought them or did Sesame Place throw that in for free too?

Anonymous said...

Anon 6:06 said: I just realized that Kate probably got sun burned as a way to control something about the trip. She is a control freak so perhaps she did it as a way to cut the trip short or as a way to get attention since it was Jon's b-day trip and he was the focus?

Yes, you are right. First of all, she is a nurse and certainly should know better due to that reason alone. Secondly, she is not a kid anymore who can indulge in doing foolish things. For example, when I was in my twenties, I did this exact same thing on two occasions - I felt like I had the worst flu in the world and I never did it again. I learned from my two stupid mistakes. Moreover, I was young and wanted a quick tan asap. But - I had no kids to take care of and did not have to set an example. I was not on vacation to celebrate my husband's birthday and do things with him to make his birthday special. I was a free agent and only had responsibility for myself at that time. And Kate said, "I do this all the time." She is immature, irresponsible, selfish, and narcissistic. I do not see her changing and growing any time soon. And this is a mother to eight kids??? It's all about control.

Anonymous said...

Not to be rude, and I'm not J+K's biggest fan, but you all seem to be forgetting that because it is a T.V. show- you are not going to see every aspect of the day. Just because you didn't see suntan lotion being put on the kids doesn't meant that is wasn't put on, just because you didn't see Kate put Hannah's hair up- doesn't mean it wasn't put up. If you really pay attention, later on the show she does, in fact, put her hair up.

I do not agree with the way that Kate handles things as far as what she says to Jon and what she allows the kids to hear and if you have a problem with that, then that is a legit one. But let's not jump to conclusions about something that we don't know. And let's be sensible.

sistah2 said...

"It seems the kids best interests have never been the priority, so why start now"

I don't agree. I truly believe that a big reason why they accept the free things is because it gives their children joy and they enjoy seeing them happy and having fun(like any parent would). And just because they have a reality show, doesn't mean that their children aren't their first priority or that they don't care about their well being. Now, we are accusing people of thoughts and feelings that they may have just because we get a glimpse of their life on TV once a week.
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To respond: IT is exactly BECAUSE they have a reality show that is proof the kids' best interests are not the priority. They have quit jobs to make this the sole income and the children are on TV non-stop. Sorry, that is not good parenting no matter how you spin it - and I dont need to imagine their "thoughts" and "feelings" to know this - its on TV almost every day. And if you feel they accept the freebies just to ensure the kids' "happiness" - do you really think the kids would be so "unhappy" without the parents white teeth, trip to Utah, designer matching clothes? Please! These shallow things do not make children happy, IMO. The kids dont care or realize what label is on the clothes, and actually, I think it CAUSES more unhappiness when they are not allowed to do things for fear of messing up the beloved 'clothes'.

sarajfp said...

My next comment maybe a little off topic, but I recall Kate saying "I love the sun, but the sun doesn't love me..."

Now rewind [and fast forward] to epidsodes before and after the Florida Keys episode and count how many times it is said that Kate hates the outside, mainly sports; But it is stressed many times how much K is an indoor girl.

Her contridictions annoy me. And, didn't she grow up on a farm??

Anonymous said...

Quinn at 9:14 said that it was a big kid rollercoaster, but I have to say that the rollercoaster they pictured was my children's first rollercoaster at 4 and 6. It's the type of coaster that has drops that pick you up out of your seat. It goes "fast" for little ones, but there is no danger factor.
Sesame Place is just like most amusement parks where the safety (i.e. liability) is foremost- and although it first appeared that kids were going to ride with kids (directly against the posted rules, but since when do J&K need to follow rules?)I was happy to see that the park required adults to ride with each child.

iluveeyore said...

Kate did not grow up on a farm. Her father is a minister who also owns an RV park. I don't know when the park was purchased, but I think that Kate grew up in a house located on an RV park.

Mimi said...

The thing that annoys me about Kate's sunburn in Florida was when she said she "always" does that. Wouldn't a normal person learn to put some sort of sunscreen on so that you don't "always" do it?

Sun poisoning, or even just a regular bad sunburn, is no fun. But it did a good job of focusing the attention on Kate, didn't it?

minxie said...

sarajfp said...
My next comment maybe a little off topic, but I recall Kate saying "I love the sun, but the sun doesn't love me..."
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That was one of the most idiotic things I have ever heard come out of Kate's mouth--and we all know there is a LOT of competition for idiotic Kate-speak. Yeah, Kate, because you can't toast your fair skin in the Florida sun for eight straight hours with no sunscreen--the SUN HATES YOU! Poor Kate, conspired against once again.

Anyway, sarajfp--yes, I did remember her saying that and even way back then I thought--wait a minute, she's supposedly an "indoor girl". Since when was she a sun worshipper? Kate contradicts herself over and over and over. She doesn it so often that I wonder, does she not realize what she says? We've heard contradictions in her characterizations of the kids, Jon, herself, their house, their former friends, family....It's very strange.

Anonymous said...

What's up with Kate and her "they need sugar" comments? She says it constantly, and she said it again last night!

Go sugar! Hopefully, it's organic


It's because nurse Katie has diagnosed her children with hypoglycemia so therefore when they are acting ill mannered she claims it's because they have low blood sugar and need sugar. She's an idiot in another words.

Anonymous said...

Quote: Secondly, another production faux pas: When the kids were playing with the "spider," I could swear it was an ant. Whatever. However, again we have a disjointed situation. Jon describes how Alexis (?) STEPPED ON the spider, and ground it into the concrete. We all saw Alexis kill the "spider" with the tip of her flag. What the heck was going on? Was Jon in a parallel universe? Production has to start getting their act together or even the folks who adore the Gosselins are going to get suspicious.

I guess Jon wasn't the only one not paying attention; it was Leah, not Alexis.

And, if you watch the clip, you can see that Jon is in earshot but not in the garage with them. He's outside by the van, I think. He hears about the spidercide when Cara complains to him, but he didn't actually see it.

I'm not sure what Jon's misunderstanding about how the spider was killed has to do with production getting their act together, or anyone getting "suspicious". What do you mean by that?

K.C. said...

Anon 7:42 said...just because you didn't see Kate put Hannah's hair up- doesn't mean it wasn't put up. If you really pay attention, later on the show she does, in fact, put her hair up.

K.C. said...Why did all of the girls leave the house with pony tails except Hannah? She had that long hair hanging all over her in 113 degree heat!

I would like to point something out since I am the one who originally posted this comment about Hannah's hair. Several people have mentioned that it was later seen in a ponytail. Please notice exactly what my comment says. Yes, I noticed that even though it was still hanging down at Sesame Place, (and on the carousel), it was eventually put up, (by someone), later on in the day. Hannah's hair is the longest, why did it not get put up at home like the other's? Even the most adoring fan must see that Hannah is given many liberties--(cupcakegate).

Anonymous said...

Actually, yes the twins do have off from school for the summer. I live near them and school doesn't resume until the end of august for them. They are getting to go on a vacation with their parents and yes, there's a speaking thing for a few hours. Everyone seems upset when nothing is done with just the older two but, when they get to travel with their parents everyone is still upset? A few hours of speaking but, they'll have the rest of the time to just spend time with their parents, see sites, go to dinner, talk on the plane etc.
As to the freebies....really if your family was offered free park tickets, free pottery you wouldn't take it? I would certainly consider it if my children wanted to.

Anonymous said...

My issue with the Gosselins isn't so much that they received free passes to Sesame Place. It costs approx. $48 for each person-- that would mean around $500 for a family of 10 to visit. However, it is BECAUSE they have a show and the kids HAVE to be filmed there that irks me. Fine, if you want to donate a trip or an outing to a large family or a needy family (or for any reason that you see fit). The parents taking the freebies in exchange for filming the children is, IMO, exploitation. They had to spend the entire day, I'm sure, with cameras around. If they were protected under SAG rules, there would have been a four hour maximum in front of the cameras permitted (for the little ones).
For those that will say "they probably didn't film ALL day" -- I have relative who works as a producer in the news/documentary field, and she says it takes many, many hours of taping to get perhaps a few minutes of usable material for a segment.
IMO, ransoming your children's childhood for some freebies and to support yourselves (J&K) is unjustifiable.
There is an article on the web written by Dr. Laura Schlesinger-- "Reality TV is Child Abuse" that was written in 2004 and makes some very good arguments against using children in this type of media (even if you don't care for Dr. S., the article is worth reading).

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