The Networks DO Listen -- What You Can Do

As a former Disney employee familiar with programming, etc. It is true other cable channels, tv productions are always on the look out for new entertainment ideas. It is very obvious from this blog many of you are extremely unhappy with the J&K plus 8 Show. Well I would suggest writing to TLC or Discovery and tell them exactly why you do not like the show any more. Also, become familiar with the advertisers on the show. Write to them, tell them you will not use their products until either the show is actually cancelled, or at least cleaned up for the children's sake.

Believe me the networks do listen to your feedback. As I viewed the Truth Will Set you Free, I noticed over 7,000 people have accessed this site to at least read the information given on behalf of Jodi. I for one believe she should have been compensated from the very beginning, at least for the inconvenience of a film crew in her home, moving furniture, etc.

As far as Kate shouting she would be "done" with the show if Jodi is compensated, I would tell her fine, because we have some other family or show in the wings available for immediate production, which is true for any cable station because "things" happen in this industry and networks have to be available to change on a moment's notice.

Kate is absolutely wrong in not honoring her commitment to her family. What she doesn't realize is the network will move forward anyway and more than likely cancel the show or the contract due to viewer input.

So what we all must do is write the network, boycott the advertisers, etc. Our economy is slowing down and people are worried about the national gasoline problems, unemployment issues, etc.

Networks do want to hear your opinion. Why do you think they have the Neilson Rating system? And it is true the children are getting older and are growing out of their baby cuteness. Many viewers get bored and want change just for change sake. But mostly people want to still believe that The Learning Channel or TLC is really compassionate and really does care about the welfare of the Gosselin children, as well as what you viewers actually think.

What Kate and Jon will need to remember is they will have adverse effects on their children, no matter what they may think now, but it will come back to haunt them in behavior displayed by their children at a later date.

So let's do all of the children a favor and please write to the Network. You can look up The Learning Channel on the internet. Just do an engine search. Find their website, jot down the address, write all of their networks, Discovery Health, etc.

While you are at it show up at the church conventions that Jon & Kate speak at and inquire of them why they have no issues on how their children are being exploited.

I know they think the money is good now and it will last forever, but that is simply not true. To be truthful I would not want to be in their shoes when the show is cancelled or not renewed for lack of viewership.

As far as the perks they are receiving they definitely need to reconcile everything they receive as a perk with the IRS. Does anyone remember recently that all of the gift bags given to entertainers at the recent Award shows were stopped? Entertainers did not want to sign a piece of paper to be given to the IRS explaining the value of the gift basket they received. The gifts and freebies now affect their total income for the year.

Thanks everyone and keep up the great feedback and your opinions do matter.

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48 comments:

FIONA said...

Thanks so much for this great informative post. I have written and I will write again. And again.

We are alot of voices here people...on behalf of Mady and Cara, Joel, Aaden, Leah and Hannah, Colin and Alexis. If you promise to write please post when you have.

minxie said...

Could you tell me which email address to use? When I check the TLC site I'm not sure exactly where to send my complaint. I have watched this show since the beginning and am horrified by how crass and soulless the whole tawdry production has become. I'm outraged and want TLC to KNOW.

Heather said...

Who are some of the main sponsors?

I can think of Juicy Juice and perhaps Fisher Price? Were they the ones who made the dollhouse/playhouse that was featured in one episode? The kids played in the little house out in the garage.

There is also the company that provided the ski clothes.

Serena said...

We are in the process of compiling a list of sponsors, which will be posted on our sidebar soon.

Angela said...

Thank you for your informative and well-written post. I'm willing to boycott sponsors and tell them that I am doing so, and why.

Anonymous said...

Thank you so much for this outstanding post! We all get caught up in the dysfunction and disturbance created by Kate and Jon and we all need to focus more on what we can do to ensure a positive outcome for those children. I did send an email to TLC yesterday (via their website) and got a form email reply. As soon as the sponsors list is posted, I will be writing to them as well. Thanks for reminding us that we do have power through appropriate recourse.

my3girls said...

Anon.. thanks for the great post. I think everyone should write to the sponsors and tlc. While in the long run, it would be better for the children if the show was cancelled, in the short term, not sure if canceling the show is the right answer. Can you imagine how these children might be treated? They are the cash cow. If the show is cancelled, they might just be viewed as mouths to feed.

I do think that tlc, etc.. needs to focus the show on the real needs of the children. Get them into preschool, let Mady and Cara have playdates and talk on the phone once in a while.

Also, as so many people have suggested.. write to the child advocacy groups to lobby for laws protecting child "actors" on reality shows.

Anonymous said...

Minxie- just go to the TLC website home page. Click on "Contact" and you will get a screen to log-in and then you can type your letter in the space provided.

Anonymous said...

my3girls: Can you direct us to which child advocacy groups we should write to in order to lobby for laws protecting child "actors" on reality shows?

Serena, a number of you permanent contributors are CASA's. Do you know who we should write to? Maybe you could post a list on the sidebar. It would be really helpful for us to get the word out. Thanks.

Anonymous said...

I also would like to thank the person who wrote the very informative comment about contacting TLC. I shall do so.

I appreciate your input.

Serena said...

Serena, a number of you permanent contributors are CASA's. Do you know who we should write to? Maybe you could post a list on the sidebar. It would be really helpful for us to get the word out. Thanks.

I think only one of us is, specifically, a CASA worker, although several of us are involved in closely related fields.

The list we will be publishing soon will include child advocacy contact information as well as the other information that was recommended in this entry.

Serena said...

Comments containing suggestions for what to add to our list will not be published here (it would simply make the comment section much too long and cluttered), however feel free to email them to serenaleighbell@yahoo.com if you have any you think should be added.

Bicoastal said...

I think the idea of an organized campaign to contact J&K+8's sponsors is a great idea.

I understand that we all have various objections to the program. Mine? It is the "it's our life" phoniness. Really, Kate? That contrived b.s. is your life? I don't think so.

I know everyone here is a "free agent," but I do hope the emails sent to the sponsors are insightful and avoid specious accusations e.g. the boys were abused because they didn't get to eat their cupcakes or
the parents don't love the kids.

I think if the show's various sponsors (and TLC) receive thousands of email from intelligent consumers they may rethink their J&K advertisements.

Again, hats off to GWOP founders for the good work.

Serena said...

I know everyone here is a "free agent," but I do hope the emails sent to the sponsors are insightful and avoid specious accusations e.g. the boys were abused because they didn't get to eat their cupcakes or
the parents don't love the kids.


While we won't be providing a "form letter" for people to use (we think letters written individually, by individuals with unique voices, are a better idea), we will include in our list some guidelines to writing an effective letter.

Our "What We Want" section on the sidebar is a good starting place to get an idea of how to clearly state your goals in your letter, but that's just a starting point.

themediaguy said...

anon, thx for the post. very well done and thought out. i would add the production company, figure8/advancedmed, to your list (probably right at the top). they are relatively small and the principals would likely read your concerns and can/will potentially make some changes that some might be calling for. as you move further up the corporate ownership structure (TLC to Discovery to Discovery Holdings to Liberty Media) the less likely your messages will be read and the more they are only are concerned with $$$. so going after the advertisers is probably the right call.

that said, getting the show cancelled will be a very difficult task. its a very successful show for cable. it clearly has a loyal following and very easy demos to sell to advertisers. there will always be another advertiser willing to step in if one drops out. so trying to boycott advertisers for this show will be like playing "whack-a-mole" ( u get one off and another pops up). but please don't let me discourage you.

while i don't like what the producers are doing on some episodes, their formula is working for now. here's hoping they reduce the "living in a fish bowl" environment for the kids and incorporate some of the things that r discussed on this site (like NOT home schooling the tups). i do like the concept of an upcoming episode, "jon cooks korean". hopefully, they run with this story arc and go into the interesting concepts like delving into the kids racial diversity. at least the gosselin kids and the viewing audience would LEARN something in the process. (kind of why i was attracted to the show to begin with - to learn something about parenting).

so you are dead right. there will be some suits that will listen. this show makes $$$. cable channels are very hot commodities right now. The weather channel just sold for $3.5 BILLION. yes $3.5 Billion with a B. This is big biz and big $$$ is at stake at the corporate level.

one final thought. while i know this will not ease any safety concerns many have, at least there are up to 7 vetted crew members at the gosselin house for a decent part of the week to "watch out" for the kids.

minxie said...

I emailed TLC and was happy to leave my name, zip code and email address--anything to make them realize that these are legitimate complaints from real TLC viewers, not crackpots on a vendetta against J & K.

judi f said...

Just wanted to let your site know I just sent my comments to TLC via the Discovery site as suggested. I too think the show needs to be cancelled for the sake of those poor exploited children. Let J&K go out in the real world and find real jobs and get "real" with their family. If no one watches the show and boycotts the advertisers then they'll get the message.

Lock n Load said...

Post:

Enhancing her personality

Many of us may want this show to end for the kid's sake, that would help with everyday scheduling and stress on their lives, I suppose. I don't see this as changing things remarkably for them, as Kate will have to fill time and space in her little world with other things that stroke her selfishness and continue to compensate for the lack of any real substance in her life, any real identity. She's a shell of a woman, concerned only with what she has and not who she is. Crack her open and you would find nothing there, no one home. This is why she can't hear what Jon says to her, ever. No receiver.

The children have not "died or been abducted" from the driveway, so why would services step in to alleviate the situation? The standard of legally acceptable care for children in the home is very low in this country, and what child really wants to be removed from parents, or their home, no matter how bad things are? These kids have a lot of stuff to deal with, many children do and take a lifetime, or however long it takes for them to come to terms with the fact that mommy and daddy really weren't sparking at both ends and they suffered the consequences. Change the child labor laws? Yes, this would be good and I applaud all that work towards that end. If we travel to California, I'm sure we could still dig up a lot of stories about how kids in the business still have not faired well. Parents are the ultimate tool in advocating for their children, and these kids have been dealt a particularly bad hand. Getting out of the business at this point would push the family to the next extravaganza. How does one get a mother with no receiver and a father that goes with the status quo to change who they are, and what they do, while the children have not been abducted or died? If they were required to attend parenting classes, or counseling would they really listen and change who they are, or would they simply put their time in and get that checked off their "to do" list?

Not all is bad in this family, we see a lot of good. I would have to say that if Kate Gosselin was my neighbor, I would have the biggest, baddest fence allowed by my home owner's association. With a secret kiddy door, of course, so that I could share time and cupcakes with those kids. It's unfortunate that these kid's have to deal with parents like they have. It's unfortunate that these kids have their mom's bad behavior documented on television. It's unfortunate that she is "stupid" enough not to see how awful she portrays herself to a nation. Fame, servants and wealth must be her drug of choice, it enhances her personality. As Bill Cosby said, back in the day; "Cocaine enhances your personality? What if you are an ASSHOLE?"

miemic said...

Interesting info. My only concern, the old addage, if this is what we see in public, what must it be like in private? If the show is cancelled, what kind of life will the kids have with a money-hungry, fame-seeking mother with stars in her eyes and deep pockets?

I'm not advocating the show stay on. I just worry about what would happen to the kids after the show left. Kinda like it might all be their fault or something like that.

Mama Kate said...

What a great post - and a great idea. We all do need to be more proactive and start emailing away. The more of us who make a concerted effort to contact the sponsors, the more impact we will have. Thanks to this poster for reiterating this point. I will definitely be doing my part.

Anonymous said...

I wrote TLC through an email address on the Discovery/TLC website. (My letter is posted on one of these blogs). I received a form reply saying that my email had been received and then a second one saying that TLC cared about its viewers opinions and that my comments would be passed on to appropriate persons. It feels good to do more than just bitch about Kate.

Anonymous said...

Have any of their neighbors ever blogged on GWOP? I would be curious as to what they have to say regarding perpetual screaming etc. Should be interesting. By the way, I love love love this site. Far better than TWOP. More adult... Sabrina, you are doing terrific work!

Anonymous said...

It's great that people are writing to the network and to the sponsors, but it's naive to think that anyone will cancel this show while you're all still watching it every week. As long people are tuning in a lot of money is being made. If readers of this blog really want to see the exploitation of these kids stopped, they will STOP WATCHING THE SHOW!!!!!! The ONLY reason it's still on the air after all this time is that it has an audience.

As a person who has worked both in front of and behind the camera (though not in the US), I'd like to bring your attention to AFTRA (The American Federation of Television & Radio Artists) and SAG (Screen Actors Guild). Both of these unions have done a lot to create laws and rules to protect child performers. I know that SAG is fighting to protect "reality" performers (because that is what they are: performers). I'm sure they'd be very interested (if they're not already aware of it) in the case of the Gosselin kids.

Finally, I'd like to agree with the person who encouraged posters & commenters to stop with the name-calling. I'm not a fan of these parents (anymore), but I think the ugly words (not to mention amateur psychiatric diagnoses) are immature, spiteful and unhelpful.

dotsicle said...

I am definitely not proactive. However, in this case, I'm going to break my own rule and write to TLC and Figure 8. Today. If I can do it, anyone can do it.

Nancy said...

I just wrote TLC.

Anonymous said...

You don't email networks. Emails are easy to delete. Everyone from networks to politicians delete them. You have to hand write them. Email is useless.

Amy G. said...

I'll write.

I have a suggestion for anyone who will listen. The Dilley family goes on the air about once a year, with Diane Sawyer, I think, for an update. Wouldn't that be enough? We get to see how the kids have grown, anything exciting and new in their lives, any new accomplishments. It leaves people wanting more and gives the family their privacy.

The last episode with the pottery on JK+8 had us LITERALLY watching paint dry. Can't we enjoy the Gosselins once or maybe twice a year? Stop the gravy train and give these children a normal life!

Nancy said...

It's too bad that an e-mail isn't good enough for the networks, but know what? I'll hand-write TLC... but not today. It will be written AFTER I hand-write my aunt in her 90's, my grandson in the Marines, and my seriously ill niece. I can't put a TV show ahead of family. Too bad the Gosselin parents seem to put the SHOW ahead of FAMILY.

Anonymous said...

I'm wondering how you know Truth's site has gotten 7,000 hits. Her Sitemeter is private. Not that I don't believe you, I was just wondering where you found that info.

I hope everyone's emails make a difference. If Figure 8 pays attention to message boards then they have to pay attention to emails, right?

Anonymous said...

The "show" provides the living for the family. I don't believe The stations care one wit if they receive an email or a letter. The rating control the lifeline of a show. I, too, have the ARE and never thought about it till now.

Anonymous said...

Emails can be deleted and letters can be tossed in a trash can. Who knows? The best approach is going right to the sponsors. They control what ultimately stays on air.

my3girls said...

Anon.. In reality, a written letter can be disposed of much more easily than an email. A letter can be shredded.

An email leaves an electronic trail.. it can be forensically recovered. The most recent example are the emails recovered in the investigation of the Bear Stearns collapse. People may very well go to jail and the evidence that will put them there are deleted emails.

Anonymous said...

I too am in agreement with the concept of the Gosselins having a once a year update episode or for that matter every several years. When a 'reality show' like that of J & K + 8 reaches a point when the basic concept of the show cannot stand alone without the phoney scripted special days and pain stakingly boring contrived scenerios then it really has crossed the line of being 'real' and borders on insulting to its vieweing audience. With each and every episode of J & K we see less and less focus on that of the children interacting in what would be a typical day in the life of but more and more of a quid pro quo relationship between J& K and product placement and advertising. The show has become unrelatable and increasingly disturbing with each and every episode. As it stands now, I can predict what will play out from episode to episode. I might actually be intrigued to watch a yearly update show on the Gosselin family.

Anonymous said...

What I find insulting is that after each and every one of these scripted shows, Jon and/or Kate say several times to the camera that this IS a typicaly day in the life of the Gosselins.

Anonymous said...

What I find insulting is that after each and every one of these scripted shows, Jon and/or Kate say several times to the camera that this IS a typicaly day in the life of the Gosselins.

2nd that! "It's Friday night, so of course it's movie night," "It's Sunday, so of course we're going to church" <--that last one is verbatim from the cupcake episode, Jon said it. How about "It's Sunday and we are jetting off to get another speaking engagement to try to convince people that we are in desperate need of their donations, in our free Gymboree outfits, hair plugs, tummy tuck, and higlighted hair?

Anonymous said...

Last night I was flipping through channels looking for something to watch. There's yet another Jon & Kate rerun marathon on TLC! Obviously, the network thinks people are watching this show--and they probably are--but I'm wondering if the show may die under the weight of its own overexposure. How many times can viewers watch Jon and Kate sitting on the basement couch, yammering away about the same stuff? I guess the economy isn't supporting house flipping any more, so the alternative is endless hours of Kate flipping out. C-Span is looking better and better.

Anonymous said...

"Last night I was flipping through channels looking for something to watch. There's yet another Jon & Kate rerun marathon on TLC! "

I'm wondering if J&K are paid residuals for all these repeats.

Anonymous said...

These cable channels are very fickle.How many times have I become interested in some show (one that just comes to mind was the show about people training for a job that was quite the opposite of their real-life personality and profession) only never to see it again? Shows disappear off these station faster than donuts at a staff meeting. I wonder if J&K get residuals. If they do, they'd better be saving because the pink slip is just one memo away.

iluveeyore said...

I sent my comments to TLC (discovery.com) and Figure8films.com. If you try to contact AdvancedMed, you just get sent to Figure8.

My only regret is that I don't think I was forceful enough -- but I did not want to come across as some nut case.

TLC actually sent me a form letter that said they would acknowledge my comments within a week.

As I told them, I don't think that I can stomach watching this horror show any more. But I think I will try to keep up with this blog et al.

Anonymous said...

I am sure that Jon and Kate are absolutly aware that the lifeline of the show could be short. I hope they are saving money - in any event, if it ends tonight, they are way ahead of the game finicially than if the show had never run.
I agree with the poster who wrote that driving seventy five miles, one way, to the cupcake place was a bad decision.

Anonymous said...

Jon and Kate may not come out ahead financially on this deal. If they are not really, really saving and investing well, they're going to run out of money. Kids don't get cheaper to raise as they get older. The luxury vacations and other freebies will certainly slow down and those rewards will be missed. How will they afford to stay in the bigger house they seem to be getting? These are people who don't have jobs, after all! I can't see the books and lecture circuit continuing (yawn). I can just imagine middle-age Kate sitting on her plastic chair whining about she can't afford to go to the spa like she used to.

Anonymous said...

Well, I just let Zondervan know what I thought about their publishing choices. Chip, chip away. Books are about sales, so junk will get published if it sells, but it doesn't hurt to let companies know that they're on notice.

Anonymous said...

Bombarding the networks/sponsors with letters serves only to confirm to them that the show is getting attention, which, in this business = $$$. If you truly care about the children and want to see the show end then simply STOP TALKING ABOUT IT. All of the internet sites about the show - even if negative - do nothing but ensure it goes on.

sistah2 said...

What might be better than emailing TLC, sponsors, etc. would be to email some media outlets and make them aware of this "scam".. anyone from the Harrisburg Patriot, etc. local papers, to Dateline. We know that the Natl Enquirer has picked up on this. Lots of people feel that rag has no credibility, but they are usually the first to pick up on stuff like this, and the mainstream media follows. If the local newspaper exposes them, that would be really effective. It would go from there. This blog is a great beginning..also if the Drudge report, et al picks up on it & links it, better too. Someone mentioned the book publisher. The book comes out in Nov. correct? That will be a can of worms... HOw about emailing them and challenging their fact-checking? We all know the book will be filled with the usual J&K lies. Make sure they know what they are getting into,, if they dont fact-check.

Anonymous said...

Has anyone considered contacting The Smoking Gun? They're the ones who "cracked" the James Frey debacle. They're wonderful at piecing together the so-called paper trail.

Adam Bomb 1701 said...

Do sponsor boycotts work? I don't know. They've been tried by Don Wildmon's American Family Association and supporters of radio host Michael Savage. To what end, I am unsure.
Maybe we could boycott The Gap, as Kate Gosselin seems to get a lot of the kid's clothes from there. I assume they're freebies. Or product placements.

Jen said...

A very informative post - I had not thought of contacting sponsors to let them know what you think of their sponsorship of this show.

My first letter is going to TLC and my second and third letters are going to The Gap and Gymboree.

Thank you!

sis said...

For those looking for the link to the TLC Viewer Relations form where you can write down your concerns, it is:

http://extweb.discovery.com/
viewerrelations

I separated it here because sometimes the links posted are cut off. Anyway, I just wrote to TLC asking them to investigate the inappropriate nudity/potty scenes/impacted bowel removal etc.

It starts with one small voice, and I believe we can be a choir!