A Minor Consideration

Are you ready for some trivia?

Q:
Who is Paul Petersen?
A:
Paul Petersen established the organization A Minor Consideration to support child stars and other child laborers through legislation, family education, and personal intervention and counseling for those in crisis.

Know anyone who might need his services? Well, how about a little more trivia?

Q:
In what state is Figure 8 Films (production company for Jon & Kate Plus 8) headquartered?
A: North Carolina

Q: What state brags about its absence of child labor laws?
A: North Carolina

Q: To what state is it believed the Gosselin family will be relocating?
A: North Carolina

When you think of North Carolina, you probably think of the beautiful Outer Banks rather than something as despicable as child exploitation. Yet there it is: this otherwise charming and genteel southern state harbors a dark side -- and Mr. Petersen has been complaining about it for a long time now:

Excerpt:

"Next we will demonstrate why Hollywood Dollars cater to the hormonally driven appetites of adolescent boys, and why the decision-makers trundle off to states like
North Carolina, a Right To Work (for less) State that actually brags about its absence of child labor laws. There is a reason films like "Bastard out of Carolina," (starring Jena Malone) "Firestarter" (starring nine year-old Drew Barrymore), and most recently, "Hound Dog" (starring Dakota Fanning) choose Wilmington, NC as a production base. "

(End of Excerpt)

Another excerpt:

"So far, although Wilmington, North Carolina officials are aware of the controversial child rape scene that was filmed in their back yard, there has been no complaint and no investigation."

(End of Excerpt)

In a speech before the Canadian parliament:

"Why? Why is it that the Film Commissioner of North Carolina, in talking about putting in some basic laws for kids in the entertainment business, does not fear the States surrounding North Carolina…but Canada."

So let's see ... they're moving away from family, remaining friends, church, and community to a place where they will know no one except the film crew whose livelihood depends on how much they can milk out of those children, and where there are no child labor protections.

Yep. This sounds like a VERY GOOD idea. Mr. Petersen is already taking an interest in the Gosselin children; let's encourage him to take more.

Based upon information compiled by mswestern.

73 comments:

dizzy_squishling_and_bean said...

God thats just disgusting, why would a state be proud of not having laws that prevent exploitation? Seriously, we all need to be writing the congresspeople of this state.

I pray that someone will step in.

Anonymous said...

Why am I not surprised to read this information? I have heard so much NC this and NC that, I have always wondered how long it would be before Jon and Kate moved there. Those poor kids.

Steph said...

How do you know that Paul Petersen is keeping an eye on the Gosselins?

Also, aren't there Federal child labor laws that would supersede the labor laws of North Carolina? I think the problem is that there are no laws at ALL addressing children in reality shows. Not only Jon and Kate, but Wife Swap, SuperNanny and the like. Granted, one hour in a lifetime is much different from an ENTIRE lifetime on camera, but it needs to be addressed.

Also, the reason NC brags about the lack of child labor laws would be to bring the Hollywood money to NC. Filming in a state can bring good money to the local economy. My parents live in the area where "North Country" was filmed, and the economy definitely benefited from the filming. Local restaurants, stores, and hotels benefit, and so does the state from the sales tax.

Isn't it always about the money?

NewMom08 said...

How do we know that the Gosselin's are relocating to NC?

Holly said...

VERY interesting information!

These poor, poor children; they are going to be moved away from family (even though they hardly see any on a regular basis), their friends (thinking especially of Cara & Mady here), everything they are familiar with and are going to be thrust into a new area and continuing to live under the harsh lights of reality television. Someone mentioned in another thread that they think there will actually be a set house, as in more modest, where the filming will continue so that the Gosselins can keep the "oh woe is us" guise going and I can TOTALLY see this happening. I also see them playing the "too many people knew where we lived; the kids weren't safe" angle and I firmly believe Kate will homeschool the tups to keep the gravy train going. Afterall, the 'tups bring the money in and no one is going to want to watch the show if they are at school all day long.

These kids are going to grow up with zero social skills; they don't interact with children their own age (other than each other), they don't have playdates, they don't go activities where other children are involved, etc. How are they going to be able to evolve into well rounded adults if they never experience the outside world?

Ugh. My heart breaks for their future; it's really quite depressing :(

Anon1967 said...

Thank you for posting this, I've been reading his site, and also emailed him. He really seems to care about the children, and wanting to change things. From his reply to me, he's getting more emails about this show.
I'd much rather pay to hear him speak and donate to his cause, than J&K..

Anon1967 said...

Forgot to add in my previous post, I also wrote to the ntl enquirer
letters@nationalenquirer.com
My point to them was that although I was glad they were getting the truth out about this family, I'd be more interested in them exposing the exploitation of the children and other children in reality shows, and how it can be stopped.

Anonymous said...

I couldn't find any info on Jon and Kate on the Minor Consideration website. Has Paul Petersen been in contact with you?

Rachel said...

I may be out of the loop here, but I didn't know they were moving to North Carolina. When was this announced?

Anonymous said...

Serena, Just when we thought it could not get any worse! This is profoundly disturbing. Of course, J and K will do their song and dance about relocating because of "security concerns, the need for warmer weather, a bigger home, etc." but now we know the real reason: more $$$ off the backs of those kids!!! And they have carte blanche from the government to do it!!!! Although the kids have been cut off from people close to them who loved and cared, they are still on their radar in some way - by physical proximity alone. Now, that will be gone, too. Kate will have them all to herself to control and force to work for $$$$$. This is sicker than ever. I just cannot believe that family is not intervening in some way. I know they cannot stop J&K - but let's try to save those kids in some way if we can.
Is Paul Peterson FULLY aware of this situation? What can we do from our end? I'm sick, just sick over this.

Anonymous said...

What sources have confirmed that they are moving to North Carolina?

Anonymous said...

Didn't Kate in one of the older episodes state she wanted the family to be "just us". Well she is certainly getting her wish. Poor babies...all 8 of them.

Serena said...

How do you know that Paul Petersen is keeping an eye on the Gosselins?

I couldn't find any info on Jon and Kate on the Minor Consideration website. Has Paul Petersen been in contact with you?

Is Paul Peterson FULLY aware of this situation?


Paul Peterson is definitely aware of and very concerned about the children. We have it in his own words, we are waiting on word from him to publish his exact quotes on the matter.

Anonymous said...

What started out as a seemingly harmless and somewhat interesting hour-long special has turned into something more ugly than anyone could have imagined.

What happened to agreeing to do this to "preserve family memories"? It is now so far out of control that it's beyond ridiculous.

I guess moving out of state sure has it's advantages for J&K. They no longer have to explain the absence of long-time friends and family, the kids can work round the clock, and the list goes on.

I hope it's all worth it to J&K. She always says she wants it to be "just us". Well Kate, you may end up a very lonely old woman where "just us" means you and your cats.

Anonymous said...

Not sure if this will clear up some of the questions of the NC Child Labor Laws or not, but I found this link helpful....

http://www.nclabor.com/wh/fact%20sheets/joint_state_fed.htm#age#age

Anonymous said...

Oh yikes. I live a town or two over from Figure 8 World Headquarters, so if they move to this area, we can be assured of kid-friendly attractions being shut down for days on end to accommodate filming. Hooray, hooray! A move wouldn't surprise me. The production has likely exhausted the local resources (Dutch Wonderland again, anyone?) and needs to be farther afield to keep the gravy train rolling. NC has mountains, beaches, and lots to do for families, and it's home to Figure 8. Embarrassing about the labor laws....the NC Film Commission is always going on about landing major productions, and it would be distressing to find that this is why.

Jen said...

I'm curious of Julie, aunt Jodi's sister could comment about the move to NC...has that been confirmed and if so, is it in the works (land purchased, house being built)?

Anonymous said...

I had no knowledge of A Minor Consideration.

However, I did love Paul Peterson on the Donna Reed Show!

Good for him -- and God speed.

discoball said...

I don't see Kate homeschooling the 'tups because that would mean she'd actually have to do something. I think it's more likely that TLC would bring in a teacher so that they could have their very own school on set, I mean at home.

Anonymous said...

Maybe they are moving to Figure Eight Island in NC?? LOL, just a thought. It is a secluded island with only 441 homes on it. Says you WON'T find hotels, shopping centers, traffic, and tourists there. "A Serene private oceanfront community."

http://www.figure8island.com/about-the-island.htm

PullTheGosselinPlug said...

Paul Petersen has done much good work and has intervened with many child stars that have fallen on hard times. I believe this is a very positive step by all of you to contact him.
I always have to laugh when people mention Kate's wanting to do the show to create memories - the second part of that is - "Which she absolutely ruins because of her anxieties and issues" - and the third part - "which she blames on everybody else."
Yeah, some memories there.
Those poor kids - how often does someone have to say it.
It occured to me that they actually think of those cameramen and the film crew as their friends (simply because they have NO friends - now, they don't even have cousins!) - wait until they start to realize all of those individuals are PAID to be their friends - how sad.

Nancy said...

Activism, advocating, letter-writing and law-changing will not change the fact that these kids will continue to live with a TOXIC PARENT and nothing can be done about it! It would be wonderful to know that the kids wouldn't be filmed more than, say, 10 hours a week. But when the cameras leave, then what have they got? KATE and an ineffectual daddy.

Frugal Finds said...

I doubt they will move out of PA. Those tups have free medical assistance here since they were born so preemie. That is a big benefit to give up!
I can totally see TLC bringing in private teachers for those kids since tups in school means no filming! Should not be too long before we know the answer to that since they are supposed to be going to preschool this fall.

mom2 said...

The Truman Show, starring the 8 children. Oh, sorry, starring Kate and company.

Seriously, I have to think that some people on the crew will keep an eye out for those children. Money is one thing but your soul is another, and there are good people out there.

Anonymous said...

"Maybe they are moving to Figure Eight Island in NC??"

I think that is one island that they would get voted off. :P

Anonymous said...

The link isn't working to his blog?

mandawest said...

Thank you Ms. Western for the information. Perhaps you are one of the Westerns who has had the pleasure of living in Jacksonville, NC?
I have happy memories of NC from my childhood .... but that was because I got to be a child, play in the dirt, socialize with other kids. Ya know, not be exploited.
I do not think that the J&K have lent their stamp of approval to the rumblings about moving to NC. However, it seems very likely that this will be happening. August 11th I predict we will know for sure.
I also agree with Discoball - Kate will not be homeschooling. At least, not by herself. I am sure a teacher will be brought in for the children. That way, should anyone offer them a free trip, they won't have to worry about a school schedule interfering.

Darcy said...

Maybe they are moving to Figure Eight Island in NC?? LOL, just a thought. It is a secluded island with only 441 homes on it. Says you WON'T find hotels, shopping centers, traffic, and tourists there. "A Serene private oceanfront community."

http://www.figure8island.com/about-the-island.htm


So creepy!

The Truth Will Set You Free said...

I know J&K have been talking about designing their new home for a while now. I think it was back in May, they took a trip to NC, and supposedly purchased land (or TLC purchased land). I would assume they chose the location based on the proximity to Figure 8. I was under the impression that part of the "theme" for season 4 was going to be building the house. Now I wonder if they'll try to keep this mansion a secret. I can totally see them building a "set" on the property, and I doubt that they'll show just how huge this home is going to be. They were talking 8000sf with a pool and pool house. Things may have changed recently, but that was the talk a few months ago.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone remember a recent episode when Kate asked Jon, "When are we moving to warmer weather?" and he replied "soon". I think it was the golf episode. I remember Jon was upstairs and Kate was yelling up from the bottom of the stairs by the front door. They were in NC (Goldsboro) on 7/11 and 7/12 for 2 speaking engagments. We saw them on the 11th and they seemed to have had a lot of sun recently. Then on the episode this past Mon, they looked the same. It has been really hot and sunny here, it's the summer, maybe they had been house hunting in the days prior. She did say it was beautiful in NC and she could see herself living here one day. So, it all adds up to me.

another anonymous said...

My comment is very much off topic, but I don't know where else to put it. Sorry.:)

I just watched the repeat of Hannah & Aaden's day out. During the Thank Yous in the credits, it says KREIDER FARMS. As in Kate's maiden name. Is that why she didn't go out on Aaden's day?

Just thought I'd call attention to it, but I wouldn't mind if I'm corrected if I'm wrong.

Anonymous said...

Quoting one anonymous person...

What sources have confirmed that they are moving to North Carolina?

While I think it's reasonable based on what's being quoted here that Mr. Petersen is keeping an eye on this, I do think without "proof" or a quoted smoking gun that says the Gosselins have bought or are actively looking to buy in NC I do think it's speculation and should merely be stressed as such, given that this is said:

they're moving away from family, remaining friends, church, and community to a place where they will know no one except the film crew whose livelihood depends on how much they can milk out of those children, and where there are no child labor protections.

Anonymous said...

KREIDER is a popular Amish name in Pa.
Its not any relation to Kate.

Anonymous said...

Perhaps if the Gosselins are moving to a more secluded community, it is to get away from stalkers who drive by their house and track their every movement. Just a thought.

aly,benji n siennas mom said...

A pool house! Holy shit! Talk about going all out on at the expanse of your kids CHILDHOOD. Those poor kids are like NEMO trapped in the dentist’s office, they have no real life or friends beside each other no type of socialization. They do not even have Gymboree with other KIDS for crying out loud! And now the parents are getting a nice big old house by exploiting these kids how SAD!

I guess no one ever taught J&K how to WORK for what you have. I appreciate everything I have because I WORKED FOR IT! I busted my ass for ten years to get my Doctorate. I’m also teaching my kids that EDUACTION and hard WORK is key for a good future!

Boy all the G kids are learning is to collect love offerings, sickening!

Anonymous said...

First time poster here, and yes, I have to admit that I used to be a sheeple. I thought Kate was funny, organized, and her "I'm-going-to-crack-at-any-moment" personality was exciting and refreshing. I LOVED seeing the children (still do) partly because they are adorable and I have a son a little younger than the 'tups. I loved seeing Beth, Jodi and the assorted helpers. I even glossed over the occasional spa days because, well, all moms need a little pampering and gosh, she's just *so* busy and tired all the time. I loved watching her shop for groceries and cook. My husband saw the show once and said "They are in this for the money. She is evil. I do not wish to watch this again." I defended Kate to him, like the sheeple I was. What an idiot.

Then I saw the episode where the girls were playing in some cheap playhouse in the garage...right before a commercial aired for the same product. I realized then that we were watching an infomercial disguised as a reality show. I started picking up other things too, like the way she favored the girls over the boys (long before she said boys were "icky"). I loved watching Beth, Jodi, and the other 'helpers', but I knew as I watched Kate say "Aaden says he has two mommies. That's what he says" that Beth's days were numbered. When they went skiing and left Beth and her daughters with the kids, I thought "Oh COME ON, people! How much "alone time" do you need? Most parents of ONE child don't get that many date nights!". That episode was the first time I ever saw Beth look the slightest bit ruffled. Suddenly, she was gone and Jodi was flown in. Personally, I think she had just had ENOUGH of being used. During the episode with the Family Photo Shoot, Kate says "Beth and Bob's goal is to HELP US". Really, people, who says that kind of thing about their friends? Weird stuff. Beth and Jodi both seem like such WONDERFUL people; I hate that we can't get a glimpse of them anymore. Poor Bob, he has a *real* job and obviously does not want his life on camera.

I'm terrified that the gravy train will move to NC. I know where Figure 8 is and I shudder at the thought of them being in the area. I wish I could start a human chain to keep them from crossing the state line.

laura linger said...

I personally am very happy that Mr. Petersen is aware of the Gosselin situation. Many, many props to the creators of this site for getting him in involved.

Anon1967 said...

"How do you know that Paul Petersen is keeping an eye on the Gosselins?"
For me personally, I emailed him with my concerns, and he emailed me back saying that he was also beginning to be concerned. I don't want to post the email without his permission though.

BEE said...

I am just wondering how we truly "know" all of this. How do we know that they have "no" contact with family and that they have "bought" land and that TLC is giving them money to build a house?

Just because Jodi hasn't been on the last few episodes doesn't mean that they don't have contact. I believe that even Julie hasn't mentioned that Jodi and family don't have "any" contact, but perhaps less?

And I am sure that they will be moving, they stated on a show that they were actively looking for, praying for and saving for a new home. Are people really suprised that a move is in the near future for them?

If "everyone" in PA including their neighbors have such dislike for Jon and Kate, I am not suprised that they want a "new" start.

Anonymous said...

Aunt Jodi's sister has a new blog up!

Serena said...

Aunt Jodi's sister has a new blog up!

I think you mean that her blog has a new entry up. :)

Serena said...

A follow-up blog entry has now been published. It outlines Mr. Petersen's thoughts to date regarding the exploitation of the Gosselin children.

Anonymous said...

Perhaps if the Gosselins are moving to a more secluded community, it is to get away from stalkers who drive by their house and track their every movement. Just a thought.

Actually their STALKERS would be their FANS who knock on their door for autographs.
A neighbor snapping photos to prove that signs exist isn't a STALKER.

Samantha NC said...

I live in Wilmington, NC and of course we have child labor laws- no child under the age of 14 may work unless it's on a family farm, and even after the age of 14 there are of course laws. Its ridiculous to suggest otherwise, as if we have little pre-school age sweat shops. Anyway, how that translates to reality tv I have no idea. I know that many would argue that the children aren't "working" at all- merely being observed by the cameras as they live their lives. Anyway in defense of my state I would just like to reiterate that we DO HAVE CHILD LABOR LAWS.

Serena said...

Anyway in defense of my state I would just like to reiterate that we DO HAVE CHILD LABOR LAWS.

Mr. Petersen is referring to the lack of child labor laws pertinent to children in situations such as the Gosselins, and the very lax child labor laws pertinent to their professional peers.

The Barth Family said...

Not sure why there was a need to attack my home state in this matter... There have been MANY more films than the 3 you mentioned.

As a resident, I would have to say that the reason the child labor laws are so laid back is because there hasn't been a need to reform them... yet. We are NOT California and although the film industry is booming throughout the state, I am not aware of any child abuse coming out of a production. If you have some documented evidence of such, I'd love to see it.

I'm a reformed J&K fan & love this blog... and perhaps it would be that if J&K moved to N.C. there *would* be a reason to change the laws...

Mit said...

I too was a sheeple. Along with my grandmother and my sister - we used to breakfast every Monday morning and talk about the last episode and talk about the new one coming that night. Now I am trying to bring grandma to the other side - she is one of those churchy people who just can't believe the things I am telling her about Kate. My sister is with me, now we watch the reruns together in a whole new light, shaking our heads in disgust the whole time. So sad. Pitiful and sad.

To think I used to go about my day thinking "if Kate can do it...." - I have 7 children, 4 are step sons who live with us, one is handicapped, and a 3 month old. I used to hold my self to Kate standards, only sometimes wondering what life would be like if I could find someone to fold, iron, and put away my laundry. After all, I only have 1 less kid than her, right?

I am disgusted by her, them, the whole thing. It's gross.

Oh, and my prediction about the sign, and the move, will be that someone tried to talk to the kids, to cajole them out to their car, something terrifying like that which neccesitated a big move, done in absolute secrecy. I would even venture that they might make a "set" house that resembles their current house exactly and we will never even be told about a move. Anyone who lives around them and says they don't live there will only be trying to create "hurtful untruths" out of their "jealousy." And I'd even say they will keep that house in PA and not sell it, just let it sit vacant to keep the lie going. These people behind this show have endless money, and clearly are willing to use any amount of it to keep the J&K cash cow producing.

Anonymous said...

We see a tiny percentage of these peoples lives. I dont think we should be jumping to so many conclusions and acting as if they are fact.

Mit said...

We see a tiny percentage of these peoples lives. I dont think we should be jumping to so many conclusions and acting as if they are fact.


Uhhhhh - so what - they are showing us the tiny part of their life that is the worst?

Samantha NC said...

"Mr. Petersen is referring to the lack of child labor laws pertinent to children in situations such as the Gosselins, and the very lax child labor laws pertinent to their professional peers."

Children in NC in a similar situation as the Gosselins? Believe it or not we haven't really encountered a problem with parents of multiples and their nationally aired reality shows, Perhaps that is why there are no such laws as of yet. I understand your concern however I feel that you are misrepresenting our beautiful (law oriented) state.

Peas & Carrots said...

About the house, for folks who rely on other's charity and speaking engagements, an 8,000 sq foot house with a pool and pool house, make me go home. Is the money for the from all of the love offerings in their church? How on earth if they are suffering so much can they afford this.

They have been very fortunate in some of the 'goodies' they have received, the ski trip, airfare, clothing, no one ever gave anything like that to me. As for the freak out on the plane by Kate, seems funny to me because everyone around her was looking after her kids and entertaining them. Pity the other people on the flight.

I think the kids are good kids and doing well considering the situation they find themselves in.

admiral.ackbar said...

No offense to the people of Wilmington, NC, but this type of behavior has been going on for years. When I say behavior, I mean the lax regulations, et al. in regards to the business of show business.

In the summer of 1992 I had the profound privilege of being one of many personal assistants to Mr. Brandon Lee. I was a soon to be senior at Cal and had scored an internship at the ad agency that was running all the junkets for "Rapid Fire" - one of Brandon's last movies. My job was very mundane, but heavily regulated - making sure Brandon would get his meals, water, etc. in between all the interviews. He was a very nice guy and was looking forward to the many opportunities headed his way.

After the summer, a few of my buddies got to follow along with production to Wilmington for filming of "The Crow". As we kept in touch over the course of the movie shoot, my buddies would tell me how different (lax) things were in Wilmington. The shoots would constantly run over time, short cut were taken,etc. Mind you, this was the first episode of the Crow movies and production was taken to Wilmington, because it was cheaper to shoot there than LA.

I won't go into long details, versus how a shoot in LA would be verses elsewhere, but suffice it say, IMO if that movie was shot in LA, I am sure that what occurred on that set would not have happened. For those of you who don't know, Brandon Lee, died because of an oversight.

With everything else, bottomline is the main concern. It is cheaper to film in North Carolina. Production companies and movie shoots bring income into North Carolina. Part of the allure is the "flexibility" of the shoots. A movie or TV show looking to avoid the by the book rules that govern production in lets say LA or New York, would be courted by the outfits in NC.

I can't say this is directly related to how Figure 8 runs its business - but to see that Jon and Kate Plus 8 has increased its episode count to 40 is ridiculous - that's a lot of time filming. Not to mention, these kids are so young and not trained (professional actors).

Anonymous said...

Good points admiral ackbar. I remember the Brandon lee incident as well and was wondering how his death was possible. It seemed like such a fluke. Now I feel like I understand more.

About J and K, I have never understood how they have been allowed to churn out such a huge number of episode and I REALLY don't get how they have been allowed to film 3 or 4 "seasons" within a span of a year. Back in the day there would be one season per year for shows. Now, I know shoes like Bachelor and others seem to have 2 six week shoots a year.

But if the Gosselins got their show in april of 07, how are we now on the 4th season?? And 40 episodes a season seems insane. Have they not heard of the adage "leave them wanting more"

Serena said...

But if the Gosselins got their show in april of 07, how are we now on the 4th season?? And 40 episodes a season seems insane. Have they not heard of the adage "leave them wanting more"

There is a section in our sidebar titled "Episode List", showing the names of all episodes shot to date.

Season 1: 8 episodes aired
Season 2: 11 episodes aired
Season 3: 41 episodes aired
Season 4: 40-50 scheduled

Total to date: 60 episodes

We haven't seen an official cutoff of Season 3 yet, so if any of the recent new episodes are considered technically Season 4 we don't know that.

Anonymous said...

"That episode was the first time I ever saw Beth look the slightest bit ruffled. Suddenly, she was gone and Jodi was flown in. Personally, I think she had just had ENOUGH of being used."


I am glad someone else brought up that episode and Beth's sudden departure. I know they said that Beth had to go home for her daughter's birthday but I never believed that for one minute. I really think Beth and Kate had some sort of dispute in Utah and Beth left very suddenly. If it truly was Beth's daughter's bday I don't think she would have gone at all. I think if the producers were aware that Beth was going to leave they would have brought Jodi in a little earlier - not waited until the day before they were flying home. Jodi must have had big time jet-lag.

The Truth Will Set You Free said...

"About the house...Is the money for the from all of the love offerings in their church? How on earth if they are suffering so much can they afford this."

It's my understanding that the house will be provided by TLC and donations from sponsors. It will be completely furnished with all the bells and whistles. There will also be an area devoted to the crew. Again, this was the talk a few months ago.

judy said...

"I am glad someone else brought up that episode and Beth's sudden departure."

I wanted to comment on this too. The one thing that stuck out to me is when Jodi was saying that she just got in and had to leave the next day. She looked tired and a little irritated. It also seemed odd that she had to fly there and back so quickly. I cant IMAGINE asking my family to do that unless it was an emergency situation.

Anonymous said...

Those kids have no social skills? Then why are very friendly around people they don't know when they go into stores and places like the zoo. And don't they interact with other kids in their Sunday school class? Those kids get more social interaction than the Duggars. At least J&K let their kids go to regular school and they go to a church outside the home unlike the Duggars.

Anonni said...

If the Gosselins do build a new house for next season, it will not be a la the Duggars who did so during one of their specials instead of over thirty episodes of someone nit-picking over every detail, especially what will show dust and fingerprints.

Anonymous said...

"It's my understanding that the house will be provided by TLC and donations from sponsors. It will be completely furnished with all the bells and whistles."

Thanks for posting the above. If it is going to be completely furnished I hope that Kate has nothing to do with the decorating. She sure hasn't done a good job with her present home. Also, to the poster who mentioned worrying about the fingermarks and dust - I cannot see that at all. As I have posted previously, I think she is the world's worst housekeeper. We have never seen a bed made in that house and there is always crap all over the place. The only place that appears to be kept neat is the kitchen. The kids' rooms are a disaster. I just think she is an awful slob.

The Truth Will Set You Free said...

"I think if the producers were aware that Beth was going to leave they would have brought Jodi in a little earlier - not waited until the day before they were flying home. Jodi must have had big time jet-lag."

The travel with Jodi and Beth was actually planned ahead of time. Both of their daughter's bdays are only a day apart, and neither of them wanted to miss the day with their own family.

Anonymous said...

There was an article on the web today about a boy who was featured on the cover of the Nirvana album. For those of you, who are not familiar with the cover of the album. It is underwater picture of a nude baby reaching for a dollar bill. The boy who is now 17 says that he gets people that come up to him all the time and tease him about appearing nude when he was a baby.
With this being said one can only imagine the riducle and tainting that the Gosselin children will have to endure in the years to come. Their television images will follow them for the rest of their lives.
I would be ashamed to have a mother who acted the way Kate does on national tv. When they get to be teenagers they are probably going to be too embarrased to be seen out in public.

Anonymous said...

Well, maybe it's time to contact the morning news show circuit and other mass media outlets to put them on the trail of this blog and other sites so come book promoting time, a discussion could be had. Of course, I am sure that all questions will have to be approved by the G's.

Anonymous said...

I can see the future episodes as they move into the house; the show truly will turn into an infomercial then. Can you imagine Kate's dialogue? "My organic chef...I mean, err, me...loves the new Wolf stove! My cleaning lady...err, I mean me again...loves to scrub these beautiful marble floors on her hands and knees." Oh goodness, why even have commercials during the show? The show *is* a commercial. Then the complaining will start...she'll whine because Jon is 2000 miles away bathing the tups when she needed him to "protect" her from their 17 washers and dryers. She'll downplay the size of the house because the crew is using some of the square footage and she'll want a full-time lifeguard for the pool because she "can't be expected to take care of eight children, that's society's responsibility". I hope that with 8000 square feet at least the kids can get their own rooms, but I'll bet that won't be the case. I'm sure Kate will say "We asked them and they decided they wanted to stay together"...like they "asked them" about the birthday celebration...meanwhile Kate will have a spa room and and Jon will be hiding in the closet. I do think they might have a harder time roping in "volunteers" now that their story is out there, but I guess instead of seeing volunteers we will see more employees paid for by TLC or people trying to advertise their own business. In the end, though, one thing will be the same: Kate will be unhappy and somehow it will all be Jon's fault.

Anonymous said...

Unless you can get someone close to the family step forward publicly and go on camera, no other media outlet will probably touch to story.

katja said...

"Well, maybe it's time to contact the morning news show circuit and other mass media outlets to put them on the trail of this blog and other sites so come book promoting time, a discussion could be had. Of course, I am sure that all questions will have to be approved by the G's."

"Unless you can get someone close to the family step forward publicly and go on camera, no other media outlet will probably touch to story."

While I wish the family would step up and speak out, I think everyone needs to raise their collective and individual voices to do whatever we can to help these children.

Anonymous said...

Has anyone thought to contact Nancy Grace to investigate/report the real story? That woman is hell on wheels when children are neglected. Nancy Grace's show can be contacted at this link: http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.html?81

Anonymous said...

Mit said...
We see a tiny percentage of these peoples lives. I dont think we should be jumping to so many conclusions and acting as if they are fact.


Uhhhhh - so what - they are showing us the tiny part of their life that is the worst?

Yes. hopefully it is the worst! What I was saying is that these tiny clips in no way show their entire lives. We are not seeing the whole picture- only what the editing shows. And just because a certain scene is shown after another scene does not mean that those two moments in time took place right after each other. Things are edited to look a certain way. For example- someone mentioned that Kate was bitching that too many people where around her and the next scene shows Jon sending one of the kids to the basement. Those two instances might not have had anything to do with each other in real life. But the editing wants you to think so.

Anonymous said...

There was an article on the web today about a boy who was featured on the cover of the Nirvana album. For those of you, who are not familiar with the cover of the album. It is underwater picture of a nude baby reaching for a dollar bill. The boy who is now 17 says that he gets people that come up to him all the time and tease him about appearing nude when he was a baby.

How would anyone know- unless they were told by the boy- that he was the baby on the cover? If it wasnt something he wanted made public then dont talk about it so much.

Anonymous said...

The Nirvana boy did make it public. He was proud to be in that picture. I read the story too and the way the shoot came about was so casual and low key, the father was a friend of the photographer who invited him over for a party and a photoshoot and it wasn't a big deal. Also that baby was an infant and the picture was an arty satire, meant to poke fun at all of us in american society. Also the baby wasnt a child actor, I dont think he got compensated, though I do think he got a platinum record and some gifts when he was one. It was a one off thing, totally anonymous and not harmful to the baby, and he went on to live a very normal life and choose to out himself as the kid on that cover when he came of age. I think the 'how' not the 'what' is important when it comes to these things. The nirvana kid didnt have crazy stage parents out to make money off his cuteness, they were normal people who moved in an artistic community and the picture was non identifying, non traumatizing and funny, with a higher message.

In the rest of that article, I was surprised and pleased to see that that kid (don't remember his name) has a great nostalgia for the early 90's (when that picture was taken) even though he can't possibly remember it! He identifies himself with the bands and kids of that time, so I think he is quite proud of being the poster baby of such a seminal band and era.

I dont think you can compare the gosselin kids with this nirvana kid.

Anonymous said...

North Carolina, gee I know people who go there, they go for one reason, a reason I am sure Jon will be loving, they go to golf. I wonder if this had anything to do with the decision to move, I mean what else does Jon have to do now days?

AireZoe said...

A new home for the family? Good on them. Maybe it will ease some of the crowding that sets Kate off so often.
A home with room for a television crew? There are no words. I can't be clever. I can't come up with any excuse at all to remotely rationalize or justify that.
What are they thinking? What must their poor families be thinking watching this tragedy unfold? Dramatic? Yes, it is. But just the thought of those kids being made to live in a de facto television studio for the enjoyment of a viewing public is horrifying.
I've watched this show more for the trainwreck than the admittedly cute kids, but if this is true, I have to turn it off. It's the only way to get TLC to drop the show - no viewers, no sponsors.
The poster above who mentioned Nancy Grace is spot-on; sic her on the Gosselins and the productin compnay for stealing the childrens' childhoods.
I am sickened at the idea of those kids growing up and being made responsible for their parents' welfare and happiness when we all know it's supposed to be the other way around.

Anonymous said...

I live in NC and when my son got a job at the age of 16 I had to sign a paper saying it was OK.