Jon and Kate on AOL

This AOL feature has been submitted by numerous readers - Are they good enough parents for TV?.

63 comments:

Robert said...

The amount of cluelessness in the comments section there is staggering.

I think I lost I.Q. points just reading through a few pages of it.

I'm amazed some of those people actually figured out how to turn a computer on, let alone post comments.

I'll sum the comments up for those of you who don't want to risk brain damage reading them...

"How would you feel having to raise EIGHT KIDS? That's sooooo hard for a working family like the Gosselins. Kate would have to slave for HOURS to get all those stains out."

ARRRGH.

Anonymous said...

I have to say...what is up with Kate's eyebrows? No one thinks that is okay, do they?

Anonymous said...

Pretty uncool to name your website "sixgosselins.com" when you have eight kids.

Dunwoody Mom said...

It seems more and more "news outlets" are picking up on these two scam artists. I feel so, so, sorry for those adorable kids, but their parents - wow, what a pair.

Anonymous said...

I think it's pretty horrifying how many commentors justify the way Kate and Jon treat each other. I cringe when I read a comment where someone claims they treat their spouse in the same manner. It is not okay to demean each other or to trash your partner in front of your children.

Anonymous said...

On the AOL Welcome Page before the article there's a picture of J&K from the show with this headline: "The Taping of the Shrew: TV Mom won't let kids get dirty, often slaps hubby, unfair?"

I also got ill reading most of the comments. I cannot believe how many sheople Kate has managed to snow. But the truth is coming out, slowly, but surely.

The End of the Rainbow! said...

I thought it was nice to hear from a man and that he would not put up with a woman like Kate. Good for him, I guess his wife likes him having some cojones.

Mit said...

The title of the page on AOL:
"The Taping of a Shrew"

I couldn't have said it bette myself!!! HAHA!!

More bad press..... and not from us horrible hateful haters from Gosselins Without Pity...... uh oh....... it might actually be that thinking people are on to them!!!

Anonymous said...

Are these comments representative of the people that support Kate's treatment of Jon? Wow, is all I can say.
Regarding the eyebrows, she really needs to have them shaped by a professional. It looks like one of the tups shaped them for her.

Anonymous said...

I agree. These people are clueless. They think J&K's behavior is okay and perfectly normal? This just goes to show that there will always be flocks of sheeple out there and that unfortunately, the charade will most likely continue on for as long as the money rolls in....

K.C. said...

I agree! It makes me uncomfortable to read some of the pro-Kate comments. The grammatical and spelling errors alone are frustrating, not to mention the content. I've become so annoyed with the idiocy and the "it's true because J&K said so" or the "pleading 8" remarks. It's easier to scan over those comments and move on instead of subjecting myself to the torture.

Anonymous said...

I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that Figure 8 and the Gosselin PR company arranged for some of the positive comments about the family.

Anonymous said...

What I would really like to see a story on is what happened to the college funds. Links on this site have been posted to the Governor's statement on the 'tups first birthday and he was setting up TAP funds. On the sixgosselins' web site it clearly states that they have no college funds. Period.

The explanation may be straightforward. For example the governor can say whatever he wants, but the money still needs to be appropriated. If funding for the TAP funds was removed from some bill, then yes there would not be any college funds. But if funding was granted - where's the money?

Anonymous said...

Yes it was great that this piece was written by a man. I bet that most of the pro-Kate comments have been written by women. If you asked their male partner to watch the show, I'm sure that they would have an anti-Kate opinion. NO person, man or woman, deserves to be treated so poorly by the other sex. If Jon was doing the same thing to Kate, those posters would be very upset.

Anonymous said...

I noticed the picture of J&K dressed up in front of a TLC sign. Do you think this was another outing for just the parents or were the kids along as well?

adri said...

My favorite comments on there are the ones that talk about how Kate does ALL the work & NEVER gets a break from the kids.

Florida Keys. Dinner dates with Jon. Laundry helpers. Jodi's house. Beth's house. Clothes shopping with Jon. Spa trips. They get more breaks from the kids than my husband & I get, and we have 2 kids that are older.

Are these people watching the same show I am?

Anonymous said...

And this is the problem with domestic abuse in this country. It's OK to hit and verbally abuse your spouse until you decide it's not and call the police. Then drop the case and start all over again. It's never OK to do either of those things but I guess those women want to put our country back to when women were men's property and it was fine to beat them. I can't understand why anyone feels that Kate's love taps and demeaning remarks to the husband and children are ok or hey, it's hard raising 8 children. NOT A VALID EXCUSE!

Anonymous said...

The thing that disgusts me the most is the women who condone Kates behavior. We have worked hard to get the message out there that domestic violence against woman should not be tolerated. Same goes for verbal abuse. Then we have women out there like Kate G who make us look like hypocrites. Thanks a lot Kate G.

Mit said...

i have 2 questions that don't have to do with this post but I don't know where to write them.

1. What happened to the post about the Gosselins appeal to church?

2. Why did the TWoP forum get closed, locked, and the public was forbade from opening another one?

Anonymous said...

In response to:

"I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that Figure 8 and the Gosselin PR company arranged for some of the positive comments about the family."

I totally agree! Whenever I read an AOL article that includes a reader poll I am always suspcious that there is/could be an underlying agenda at hand. There is definitely a potential for the information to be used as a marketing tool to establish a specific geographical location or focus group.

Anonymous said...

"I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that Figure 8 and the Gosselin PR company arranged for some of the positive comments about the family."

I agree as well. The staggering amount of responses all at the same time, as well as the common thread of the pro-Kate argument... I treat my husband just the way she does hers, and its normal ... she has 8 kids - if you had 8 kids would you do any better?

I find it hard to believe that so many women treat the men in their life with so much disrespect and immaturity, and get away with it. As for pleading 8, Jon and Kate get so much help and resources and free babysitting I find it hard to accept that as a convincing justification for being over-controlling and exploitative.

Anonymous said...

I was quite happy to see an article about Jon & Kate printed in the mainstream media. What I am most disappointed about is the support of Jon and Kate and the way they treat each other and their children.
This is a dysfunctional family who are exploiting their children for money and freebies. It's obvious some of the children are miserable. Their lives are planned out, nothing is spontaneous anymore. Jon and Kate are raising 8 kids, WITH helpers, nannies, housekeepers, and Jon AT HOME all day. Are these supporters that delusional that they're not seeing the whole picture? Thankfully they were directed to this site where if they spend some time reading, they will discover the real truth.

iluveeyore said...

1. What happened to the post about the Gosselins appeal to church?

We decided that a discussion of the Gosselins and their "Christianity" (good, bad, or indifferent) or anybody else's Christianity (with a capital C or a small c) did not belong on this blog.

2. Why did the TWoP forum get closed, locked, and the public was forbade from opening another one?

The administrators of this blog have absolutely nothing to do with TWoP.

We suspect that the TWoP forum was closed because it was becoming too unwieldy to manage. The moderators were ultra strict, which gave them more work. We just think they didn't want to bother moderating a J/K board.

July 31, 2008 5:31 PM

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I noticed the picture of J&K dressed up in front of a TLC sign. Do you think this was another outing for just the parents or were the kids along as well?


That was from the Discovery upfronts in NYC a couple of months ago. I remember seeing other photos of her wearing that dress. The kids were there, they were in some of the photos.

Anonymous said...

Why do people( from AOL comments) keep defending her because she has 8 kids? So, it is ok for her to be the way she is because of the amount of kids she has?
It's too annoying to read them.

Anonymous said...

I respect the blog originators and their decision to discontinue the Gosselin appeal to the church post. However, that being said, I found all the posts prior to its closing to be well written and enlightening without being rude, obnoxious or ranting. I personally, appreciated all the opinions expressed and looked forward to reading more. Although the topic of religion and what constitutes a good christian vs 'bad' christian is a subject for much heated debate,its relevance did serve a purpose within the contents of this blog forum. But again, I do respect the decision on the part of blog originators.

George said...

I agree it was the same refrains over and over again. Leave Kate alone. Don't judge them. They are great.
Man, what's being put in the public drinking water or does TLC have some sort of hypnotic suggestion thing going on within the program? I'll leave Kate alone when she stops with forcing her children to be filmed for her financial gain, when she gets Mady the help she needs, when she stops with the belittling of her husband and when she stops with the constant whining that she's exhausted when it's clear the hardest thing she's done is bark orders at Jon.
I have to use my judgment each and every day and I'll judge Kate, Jon, Figure 8 and TLC as long as I'm alive and breathing. If I don't judge something how can I tell if it's worthy or unworthy. Hey, if it's OK for you freaks to judge the author for his opinions, guess what, it's OK for the rest of the world to judge your precious Gosselin family. Insert a great big Jon eye roll here.
And saying they are great is a judgment too. Just one I don't agree with and so again lets get into a big circular argument about whose allowed to judge and which judgment is correct, except not. If you're religious it's going to be that superior being that makes the final judgment so think on how he/she/it will judge Kate and Jon and the choices they made.

Anonymous said...

"This couple has 8 children for heaven sake and it is managed much better than households with 1 or 2 children."
Households with one or two children DO NOT have volunteers to come fold and put away laundry, hired help to watch and play with the children, nanny and cleaning services, are given free clothing, free vacations and special days to get teeth whitened and hair transplant surgery, go golfing, spa days, private fitness instructor, and ever ending flow of freebies, gifts and donations to top it all off consist of both a stay at home mom and dad. That is why you are given the impression that J & K are managing much better than households of one or two children. Take away ALL of the above and how well do you think J & K would manage?? Probably just like every household in America that has one or two or EIGHT children!!

Anonymous said...

"Why do people( from AOL comments) keep defending her because she has 8 kids? So, it is ok for her to be the way she is because of the amount of kids she has?
It's too annoying to read them."

I've been lurking for a while. I have three kids and I have definitely had some "Kate" moments. I know my triggers (heat/humidity and hunger) and yet I still sometimes let those get the best of me and I get crabby and I yell. Kate certainly has some issues that need attention. She has even alluded to that herself when speaking of reaching a point with the pumpkin carving and needing to clean it up.

I certainly applaud and deeply respect those mothers who never lose their cool and never yell. I wish I was one of you. Unfortunately, a lot of us aren't. I always regret yelling and I always apologize to my children and explain where the anger came from. I also recall Kate mentioning that they do the same.

I am sure if our family were filmed over three days the producers could edit us into a crazy lot, a model family, or somewhere in between.

You will argue about the help they get, but three kids feels like a lot to me on many days. I will give you all the OCD/control issues. I think she recognizes that and that is the first step. I'll give you her rude and condescending behavior toward Jon; I'll agree they are entering dangerous teritory filming their family so much; and yes, I wish she would just play with the kids more (especially now if she does have a battalion of help!). But, don't tell me Kate doesn't love ALL of her kids and don't tell me she is a bad mom for "gumgate" and the like. She is human. I think she keeps herself in check with the children (maybe that's why Jon gets it so much!).

Finally, all kids are different. I think they know their kids as individuals as well as any parent. Dressing them alike doesn't take away from that. I don't have any multiples, yet sometimes I'll "match" my kids. I think it shows unity.

And, more than the clothes, kids need/want different things. Kids seen as "favorites" might just seek out more affection than other kids. I have one cuddler and another that isn't. Doesn't mean I love one more because he snuggles up to me more often.

I think some people are getting too caught up in hating Kate to see she has some good points.

green said...

I did not read all the comments on the AOL blog because I could not stomach the many responses that justify Kate's behavior. I don't consider myself a "hater", jealous, and I don't want to "walk in her shoes". In my opinion, the way she gives Jon "love taps" and the way she belittles him are not actions that can be excused simply because you are a mother to 8 children.

K.C. said...

Anonymous 2:54, South Park is a cartoon, real children are not involved. Jerry Springer does not put 3 and 4 year olds on his stage with their parents and instigate fights. If consenting adults want to trash themselves out for the world to see on television so be it. I honestly want to know why the number of children one has makes any difference when it comes to common courtesy? Would you please help me understand this? Is there a magic number? For instance, if I have 6 kids does that make me qualified to constantly demean, holler at or insult my husband? Then could I publicly humiliate him by saying he is a fat, balding idiot? Or is it only justified once I have 8? I'm really curious...

I must admit that while I do respect your position on closing the discussion I am still disappointed that it's gone. I noticed it earlier today but did not read it. I was planning to curl up with my laptop, (and a bowl of cherries), and read it after bath, bed and story time. I do feel that there are very specific reasons J&K have chosen to prey on this particular group of individuals. Hopefully, in the future, we may discuss this in general without debating the specifics of a particular faith.

Ale said...

To be honest, I am somewhat of a Kate supporter. It is hard for me to be critical with someone who I see on TV. We only see what the producers edit for us. We don't see what goes on when the cameras aren't rolling.
I guess maybe I defend Kate to a point because I do have a similar type A personality.
However, I do not appriciate how she yells at her children and at Jon. As a teacher, I know for certain there are MANY alternatives to yelling. Yelling just doesn't work.
I know that there are some issues within the families of Jon and Kate, but I think it is hard for me to be critical because what we are reading is on the internet and we only know small bits and pieces of the story.
I do feel bad for Cara, Mady, Alexis, Hannah, Aaden, Collin, Leah, and Joel, who will grow up and one day be able to read all the horrible statements made about their parents. Whether they are true or false, I just know from experience that it hurts to have people lash out at your parents.
Now this is not saying that I support everything Kate and Jon do, but I hesitate to be critical, because I for one have not walked in their shoes--and I'm not just talking about raising 8 kids....they were kids at one point to...so I am sure there is more to the story than just the bits and pieces we see once a week!
So all in all, I'm not a full Jon and Kate supporter, but it is hard for me to be critical...I certainly don't have two sets of multiples to raise, and I've had a different life growning up.

Yeah, I ramble, but hopefully someone sees my point.

Anonymous said...

LOL. I'm sorry but every time I read the comment "Leave Kate alone" or Leave them alone" all I do is picture the YouTube video of Chris Crocker and his LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE rant.
I always regret yelling and I always apologize to my children and explain where the anger came from. I also recall Kate mentioning that they do the same.
I guess saying your sorry helps but I was always taught if you feel you are going to loose it to take a deep breath and count to 10. I don't recall Kate ever saying she apologizes to her children. If her behavior on the Most Embarrassing and Favorite Moments clip show is any indication of how Katie's mind works then she wouldn't feel the need to apologize because it's always someone else's fault that she has her freakouts. I'm pretty sure she made it clear her over the top behavior about the gum on the bear was Jodi's fault.
But, don't tell me Kate doesn't love ALL of her kids and don't tell me she is a bad mom for "gumgate" and the like. She is human. I think she keeps herself in check with the children (maybe that's why Jon gets it so much!).
I'm not sure anyone told you personally that Kate's a bad mother but I do think a lot of folks feel she handled that situation with the gum very badly. Does that make her a bad mother? Not necessarily but I think it makes her a mother with some issues that need to be addressed. If she goes forward and more of these type situations are shown to us then that would make her a bad mother because if she looks at that video and feels her behavior was fine and doesn't change and grow from it, bad.
I'd don't want to write an essay but yes, she's human and all humans are basically flawed. I believe we are to tackle our flaws and become better for doing so. When Katie lets the audience know she is aware of her flaws and wants to improve then she'd make a better impression on a lot of the critics. And regardless of all of that there are people that feel it's still wrong to use Jon as her whipping boy especially in front of the children. Period, the end.

Kristee said...

Well, this may be why there are so many Kate lovers on the AOL poll. I posted about a half hour ago. My post just pointed out stuff we know to be true..parents not working, uptight Katie..yada yada yada. No swearing, or threatening words. I went back to see if anyone responded and my post is gone...poof...gone.

I wonder who is at the delete button on AOL tonight, Jon, Kate, or one of their faithful, furry sheep?!

Ku said...

I have just started posting at Parent Dish and Momlogic. I made a comment on that section as well. It is ludicrous over there! LOL

Mit said...

I have an idea... if the moderators are okay with it - we can take the religion discussion over to my blog? I will post the site if someone will tell me it is okay - ie the ones who decided it did not belong here.

Dew said...

"I always regret yelling and I always apologize to my children and explain where the anger came from. I also recall Kate mentioning that they do the same."

That's the difference. I think perhaps therapy or anger management classes are helpful, but certainly recognizing the behavior was inappropriate and apologizing for it is an important step. Kate can't even get there. She does not seem to recognize there is a darn thing wrong with her behavior. Whenever it is gently pointed out to her, usually by Jon, she just gets very defensive or brushes it off or makes a joke out of it. And darn if she will ever apologize for it. It's very concerning honestly. She's not twelve, she's a grown woman who has eight little ones looking up to her and learning from her how to handle the situation when you make a mistake. I think Kate is overall a bad mother. Among other things, good mothers do not plop their children in front of cameras for three plus years and destroy any kind of privacy or childhood they had a chance at. I'm not afraid to say she's a bad mother or defend it.

Anonymous said...

I too wondered where the "their appeal to the Church" post went.

I went through a lot of soul searching to submit what I did regarding that post and I can imagine the difficulty you would have moderating such a strong subject.

I am still amazed that it is gone though. I imagine the statement "They are hypocrites" ran 100 to 1 in favor and that just isn't Christian, is it?

Kudos for pulling it if you think it was best.

Anonymous said...

great link....

People who commented on it were all about "you try to raise 8 kids and see how you do". I'll tell you right now I'd have a hard time. I know that. Heck, I have a hard time with two 3 year olds!

These comments were making Kate into some kind of heroine. And until I found this site I made excuses for her too. My husband would think she was a B**** but I always said things like "she's tired, she's stressed".

I watched a replay of the day in the life episode where the girls to to school for the first time (1st grade). Kate was trying to make it seem like she had to do everything, when Jon says "I get up early with the kids, I get them dressed, I get them washed" and she says "do you want your public to know this" and he says yes.

The truth will set you free....

Anonymous said...

This is to Al who is somewhat of a Kate supporter. I have no problem with you or with anyone who likes Kate. I happen to think that she's a very poor excuse of a mother and I also think that sooner or later J&K are going to have to answer to either Uncle Sam, the people at their churches or the bigwigs at TLC because this cannot go on forever. Nevertheless I respect your opinion and I don't think anyone is trying to muzzle you or anyone else who likes her. But I should not be dismissed and told that I cannot be vocal about my abhorrence to Kate. I have just as much right to state my feelings as any of her fans do. And I see how their publicity machine swallows up people whole who dare say anything negative against Lady Gosselin. And that only makes me more determined.

Anonymous said...

A few observations reading through the responses to the Parent Dish article that appeared on AOL.

There are viewers that actually believe that Jon leaves the house daily and works a 9-5 job.

There are viewers that actually watch the show for parenting tips and WISH they were more like J & K.

There are viewers that ask the question, " how dare you judge J & K" and proceed with statements of "get off your high horse" and "you probably cant handle your own kids".

There are viewers that actually believe that J & K make a conscious effort to save money in order to give the children nice clothing and take them on all the "wonderful" vacations.

Probably the most disturbing, there are viewers that actually believe that the cameras are only filming the children 'a few hours a week'.

Nancy said...

The excuse of "eight kids" for Kate's behavior doesn't wash with me. My uncle (one of 7) & aunt had 8 kids and nobody acted like Kate. There were no nannies, caterers, laundry helpers, or spa visits, just help from the rest of the family when needed. It really ticks me off that this woman blames much of her behavior on having 8 kids. If it weren't for all the kids, she wouldn't have a tv show and all the perks.

The Truth Will Set You Free said...

Anonymous August 1, 2008 5:21 AM--

All of these "deceptions" are part of the reason I decided to speak out. TLC is trying to keep the truth from the public. My blog was posted by someone in comment #594 yesterday. Now that post is gone.

I was told that they did the same thing on the discussion board on the TLC website. They only allowed positive comments. I wonder if the reason they shut it down was due to the amount of time it took to moderate?

It's like some sort of "brainwashing" game they are playing. Seems like they want people who may not buy into their "reality" and/or question their behavior to start doubting themselves because "everyone" thinks they're great!

K.C. said...

Mit said...
I have an idea... if the moderators are okay with it - we can take the religion discussion over to my blog? I will post the site if someone will tell me it is okay - ie the ones who decided it did not belong here.

What is the name of your blog?

Anonymous said...

It's like some sort of "brainwashing" game they are playing. Seems like they want people who may not buy into their "reality" and/or question their behavior to start doubting themselves because "everyone" thinks they're great!

---That's exactly what I think is going on. All the J&K lovers' comments revolve around the same themes ad nauseum:
1. How dare you judge them? You don't have that right.
2. You have no idea what it's like to have 8 young children, including septuplets. I'd like to see you try that and see how well you'd do. Kate does better with 8 than most do with (a smaller number).
3. You are simply a HATEFUL person.
4. You are simply JEALOUS of them.
5. Leave this beautiful family alone!!!!

Most of these posts are usually done with the same level of poor grammar that J&K display verbally.
Often, there is a great deal of anger in the posts, as well, which is odd, because at most of these websites, there is only perhaps one non-fawning post out of ten. It's like killing an ant with ten hammers.

Mit said...

Ok I started a post about the Gosselin's appeal to churches over on my blog.

http://myorganizedchaos.wordpress.com/

If you feel so inclined, please be my guest and go join in (or start) the conversation.

:)

Anonymous said...

I always regret yelling and I always apologize to my children and explain where the anger came from. I also recall Kate mentioning that they do the same.


That is what Kate SAYS. I have not personally seen her behave that way. I think that it is one thing to lose your cool in a moment of tiredness/stress/hunger, but to be someone who takes responsibility for your action. It is another when that behavior is standard operating procedure.

Kate's behavior makes me uncomfortable. I think that is why many people begrudge the "freebies" that come with a TV show for J&K yet don't for the Roloffs.

Anonymous said...

Truth: All of these "deceptions" are part of the reason I decided to speak out. TLC is trying to keep the truth from the public.

I have a question, it is not meant to be argumentative but is an honest question. Previously you said it was Jon/Kate that were perpetuating the deceptions. Now you say TLC. In your opinion is it more J/K or TLC/Figure 8? I ask because previously your comments have been directed at J/K but this one seems more directed at production.

K.C. said...

Anon 10:36, I'm sure 'truth' will speak for herself, but if I may weigh in...

I took her statement to mean that she spoke out because TLC obviously will not. TLC is protecting their investment at all costs. TLC is fully aware of what J&K are doing and by helping cover up the sham TLC is just as guilty as they are.

The Truth Will Set You Free said...

"I have a question, it is not meant to be argumentative but is an honest question. Previously you said it was Jon/Kate that were perpetuating the deceptions. Now you say TLC. In your opinion is it more J/K or TLC/Figure 8? I ask because previously your comments have been directed at J/K but this one seems more directed at production."

To answer your question, I think it is a combination of both. There are blatant lies and deceptions from J&K when it comes to the interviews on talk shows and their speaking engagements. These things are not a product of editing, but are done to keep up the appearance that they are just a normal family struggling to get by. The appeal for most people is “how do they do it?” Would it really be that interesting and amazing knowing the amount of money and help that they have?

TLC/Figure 8 will do anything to keep the money coming in. They don’t want people to speak up or start questioning the “reality” because they will see that J&K are far from a normal, struggling family. People will lose interest if they find out they get everything for free, quit their jobs, have tons of help, etc. There is major damage control going on in an attempt to disprove those who are catching on or speaking up. It all comes down to money and I believe that J&K and TLC/Figure 8 will do anything to keep this going.

FIONA said...

But, don't tell me Kate doesn't love ALL of her kids and don't tell me she is a bad mom for "gumgate" and the like. She is human. I think she keeps herself in check with the children (maybe that's why Jon gets it so much!).


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I will tell you that I THINK Kate is not a good mother. She isn't comfortable with it, she isn't nurturing. I don't think every woman on the planet is meant to be a mom. Just because we can have a child, doesn't mean we will be a good parent. As far as "gumgate and the like"-those are the portrayals of a woman on her best behavior. It is abusive, mean and scary to say the least.


I think some people are getting too caught up in hating Kate to see she has some good points.

July 31, 2008 7:27 PM


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And please don't put words into other people's mouth. I have never, ever read on this blog that someone said that "hated" Kate!

K.C. said...

Truth mentioned that as more people are starting to speak out the damage control has increased. I was wondering if anyone, (or Truth), knows if the articles comparing J&K to Brad and Angie in USWeekly, People, etc. are part of this damage control? It seems too coincidental. If the PR firm J&K hired specializes in turning their clients into a "brand" or a "household name" it would seem logical to assume they are feeding the press.

Then on the other hand I've seen an increase in 'mainstream' negativity towards J&K lately. For instance, the piece on AOL was not exactly positive. I have also noticed more and more posts from people who have encountered J&K in public places, (airport sightings, neighbors, etc.). For instance, I found this post on the CafeMom site's Where's Aunt Jodi? group in Beth? thread:

"I live near the Gosselins and had the misfortune of seeing her in action in the waiting room of my daughter's doctor.

She had Aaden, Hanna and Alexis there, and kept them corraled in a corner away from everyone else - poor little Aaden kept looking at me as if he was thinking he would like to talk to me, but said nothing. Then, in a rather unpleasant way, I found out they were going to be taking a trip to Utah (before any schedule posting) and came to believe that Kate is perhaps mentally unstable. The girls were wearing these adorable little pink quilted vests (outerwear) and Hanna asked if she could take hers off because she was hot - mind you, she was not at all beligerant or whiny. Kate snapped, grabbed her by the arm, yanked her closer until they were literally face to face and then hollared in a very loud deep voice, "Well get used to it because you'll be wearing it the whole time we're in Utah!!!!" I almost fell off my seat, and wondered why the staff did not intervene or at least notify the doctor of what had ocurred. Then just a few moments later she was reading them a book as if nothing had ever happened.

I should also mention that Kate made a conscious effort to not make eye contact with anyone, including the desk staff - she appeared as though if I would have gone over and PURPOSEFULLY maneauvered myself to force eye contact, she'd have broken her neck to avoid it. The woman definitely has some sort of emotional problem (IMO)"

It seems there is just as much bad news coming out as there is neutral and semi-positive.

Anonymous said...

Thanks! I guess what I was asking was about the internet monitoring/replying on message boards, etc. I know they both benefit from keeping up appearances, but I'm wondering if J/K do that independently, or if TLC/Figure 8 keeps their finger on the internet pulse.

Anonymous said...

I am rather new to this board and infact new to the whole Jon and Kate messs so maybe this question has already been answered. What exactly is Figure 8? I am assuming it is a production company organized to handle J & K +8 program. If that is correct who owns it and who gets the royalties for the show?

adri said...

So I decided to kill a few brain cells last night & read some more of the comments on the AOL site.

More of the same. No surprise. But what also sticks out for me is the "Unless you have 8 kids..." and/or "Unless you have twins & sextuplets..." DON'T JUDGE!!!

To me, it's like telling someone:

Unless you've served in Iraq, your opinion on the war is invalid.

Unless you were in the WTC or the Pentagon on 9-11, you shouldn't have been affected.

Unless you were on the Gulf Coast when Katrina hit, don't judge how it was handled.


I also wonder how many of these people allow their spouses or S/O to slap their faces, since it's "only play & not abuse." Sad.

FIONA said...

Adri,

You made me laugh so hard.

There is indeed a parallel to the smarts that Kon's fans seem to posses and their wonky comments!

Anonymous said...

How greedy can a woman be that she sells back the close that she gets for free. You really have to worry about the mind of a woman like this. That is beyond trifling, especially when she has more than enough money by now that a few dollars from a consignment shop wont make a whole lot of difference. Why not give those clothes back to the church, so church can donate those clothes to families that are truly in need. Or donate some of their clothes which I am sure they wear no more than once to a battered womens shelter or a homeless shelter. I would think more of this family if they did some giving for a change and not just take, take, take.

Jennifer said...

I have a question for Truth...

How was your coming forward affected your relationship with your sister, Jodi. If Jodi supports you, has that created conflict with J&K?

Thanks

K.C. said...

Jennifer, I was just looking through old blog entries/comments to add a quote to another area on this blog and I remembered seeing this. I went back and copied it for you. It's from 'The Show Has Been Cute, but...'

The Truth Will Set You Free said...
Jodi and Kevin are in full support of my blog. Other members of the family have also contacted them and are in support. I also know that Jon is aware of my blog and actually said that he doesn't care what I'm saying. J&K know that I'm not a hateful person, and I won't cross any lines. I'm sure what I am talking about is the least of their worries in getting out. I'm not trying to "bring them down", and I'm being very selective in what I discuss.

July 7, 2008 12:19 PM

Anonymous said...

I have a question for The Truth Will Set You Free, do you foresee either Jodi or Beth ever making any type of public statement, even if it's neutral? I'm not sure if you know, but there are so many people who still believe your blog is a fake and that J&K are what they claim to me.

Christi said...

Anonymous 7/31 2:03 said:
What I would really like to see a story on is what happened to the college funds. Links on this site have been posted to the Governor's statement on the 'tups first birthday and he was setting up TAP funds. On the sixgosselins' web site it clearly states that they have no college funds. Period.

The explanation may be straightforward. For example the governor can say whatever he wants, but the money still needs to be appropriated. If funding for the TAP funds was removed from some bill, then yes there would not be any college funds. But if funding was granted - where's the money?


After brief Googling, the TAP funds look similar to a 529 plan or pre-paid tuition program. I'm guessing that the governor set up the accounts with the state (paperwork, etc), but that the state wasn't responsible for funding them. They were probably planning on getting donations for the TAP accounts.

Maybe they never got any donations, maybe Jon just needs to update the website.

sistah2 said...

About the college funds...if there is none, then why, for the past two years or so, have the G's been taking love offerings at churches for just that purpose? Even if the TAP funds are empty, there should be something put aside for the kids college, after all the money they have taken from the church tours. After they collect the money , where does it go? That is the question they should be answering....it seems the churches that book them do not ask about this. The $$ may just be going to Kon. After all these years, still claiming they have no college funds is absolutely ludicrous - unless in a weird way, they are telling the truth - the love offering money has gone to Kon, not the kids.

The Truth Will Set You Free said...

"I have a question for The Truth Will Set You Free, do you foresee either Jodi or Beth ever making any type of public statement, even if it's neutral? I'm not sure if you know, but there are so many people who still believe your blog is a fake and that J&K are what they claim to me."

I don't know. Beth has alot riding on the book, so I doubt if she will say anything. Even if Jodi did confirm that my blog is true, there will still be people who say "there's two sides" or "she's just jealous". I don't think it would make that much difference in what people believe. My goal isn't to convince anyone. I know I've done my part in getting the truth out and what people want to believe is their choice.