Where are the grandparents?

This article attempts to answer part of the biggest questions of the Gosselin family. Where are the grandparents?

Jon's father is the only one who gets mentioned. He was involved with the family until his death.

When queried, Kate has said "They are not involved with our day-to-day lives" and also "They didn't know how to help". Her parents took care of the twins while she was hospitalized when pregnant with the sextuplets, and were around during the birth announcements.

Kate's family have remained silent on the issue. One of her sisters wrote this in a public blog entry:
"So pretty much lately I've realized that I'm denying myself the ability to have relationships with certain people because doing so will bring me down emotionally and spiritually and following and trusting in Him. That is a rough thing when my mind wants to take steps to have a relationship with this person or persons, but my heart (where the Holy Spirit is guiding and directing me) is urging me to just follow God and let everything else take care of itself.

For the privacy of those involved, I want to try to keep things as vague as possible. But I want to give a more specific example of what it is that I am going through. I need to get it out!

Basically, I feel that I am being forced to choose between two people or groups of people. As it is now, I am respectful and loyal to one person or persons (whom we shall refer to as Person A), steadily building a healthy, Godly relationship with them, but I am missing out on a relationship with one or more other individuals (whom we shall refer to as Person B) in my family who do not get along with the aforementioned person (Person A) or persons. I am assuming that they (Person B) will "like me" (conditionally, of course) if I pretty much say, "boo to you" (in my husband's terminology) to Person A. But in order to be in their (Person B) life, I would have to give up Person A (and also violate a 10 commandment... honor thy father and thy mother...). See my plight... or have I confused you beyond belief?

The truth is... I miss Person B. I grew up with Person B, I love them, I want the best for them, and I would love to be in their life. But Person B, I KNOW, would bring me down emotionally and spiritually. I've missed seeing Person B's children grow... Person B's children and my child aren't getting to grow up together (they're cousins). This stinks!

Person B probably doesn't think I even care because I've had no contact with them. The truth is, I care so very much, but I am afraid of being taken advantage of, caught in the middle of a horrible battle, and hurt. The last contact I had with Person B was a phone call, which started out as planning a visit/favor/transaction and turned into Person B being harsh and accusatory. I hold no animosity towards Person B for this; it just shows that things have been rocky or just plain nonexistent relationship-wise. The whole thing just saddens me really.

So basically, I guess this is one relationship that I've had to give up in order to do the right thing. Maybe at a later time in a later post I can be more specific, but right now I don't feel as though I am to be too descriptive.

One final comment (and this probably won't make sense to anyone): I wish with all my heart that I did not have to watch television to see Person B. :'( I pray that someday God will bring healing... and in the meantime I know I am learning so much from all the trials and things that I am going through."

(This sister had to close her blogs after people started commenting, because she is Kate's sister. This is why I'm not identifying her.)

So if you do the math, Person A is one of the parents, and Person B is Kate - the person on TV. Whatever happened to estrange Kate from her parents, it appears to be serious enought that she has also distanced herself from most of her family. We know that her brother Kevin (Jodi's husband) is still involved - although I think he'll never go near those nasty potties again!

The rumor mill states that Kate's father, a pastor, helped organize donations for the sextuplets. Like six cribs, which Kate allegedly refused because they didn't match. She was also apparently rude to the church volunteers and drove them away. Niiiiiice.

51 comments:

Kathi said...

I too am curious as to what's going on with Kate's family, but it doesn't seem right to repost the sister's blog content here. She deleted the original blog for a reason. This can only stir up more family drama, which will hurt the Gosselin kids in the long run.

Serena said...

This can only stir up more family drama

I doubt it. Kate's sister has made her new blog public, like the old one was, instead of setting it to private. She wants the audience as much as Kate wants it.

As long as Kate and Jon are out fleecing the public by soliciting "love offerings" in response to their [long outdated] tales of financial struggle, I think they are fair game.

Brandy said...

Can you post a link to the new blog? I delted the old one. I know her first name, but can't find it with just that...

Kathi said...

I doubt it. Kate's sister has made her new blog public, like the old one was, instead of setting it to private. She wants the audience as much as Kate wants it.

That's true....poor kids.

Mary Berry said...

Before her original blog was deleted, I asked her in her comments why the grandparents weren't in the tups life. I forgot her exact words but she said something like, "My parents aren't allowed to see them. Period."

I agree though, that she wants an audience too.

Does anyone know if her private blog is about her adopting from China or if it's a blog about Kate, considering Kate talked about wanting "China Dolls" for children.

iluveeyore said...

I am getting the distinct impression that we are confusing Kate's three sisters.

Anyone else feel that way?

Not a Sheeple said...

Not at all. I think a lot of us know which sister is which.

Not a Sheeple said...

It appears to me that Kate herself has created quite a bit of the drama. It seems to have started after the sextuplets were born and she seems to have been responsible for at least a good portion of what happened. Trying to force siblings into choosing sides isn't fair or mature behavior.

laura linger said...

If you put something out on a blog for the world to read, don't be surprised if it gets reposted somewhere.

As an avid blogger myself who has been quoted all over the place, I speak from experience here.

I am all for ending family relationships if they are toxic, by the way. I have virtually nothing to do with my husband's family now, after over a decade of fighting the good fight to have a congenial and even loving relationship with them. You can only do so much. I am on Kate's side, incredibly, if she is in a similar situation with her own parents. Biology is no reason to continue to have someone in your life if that person makes you miserable.

mrsbananabethanna said...

The drama is, and always has been, created by Kate's incessant desire to control everyone in her circle. I wish I could say kinder things about her, but the truth has been ignored for a very long time. I will disclose that I've never been in the home of John and Kate. I have been in the home of close friends and family and, unfortunately, some of those people have been burned by Kate. These families and individuals said nothing public about Kate until Kate, and John (though less), started telling lies on television. The bit about the cribs is something I'm not sure about, but I do know that Kate and John had massive help from their families and friends while Kate was hospitalized for the tups. And, while this is something that would happen with most families in that circumstance, Kate could never fully let go of the control she had over the tups during this time. It became a situation where she would hear things about, say an outing or meal, the twins were given and she would go off because they hadn't followed her "rules". In some instances, the people caring for the twins were between a rock and a hard place (having jobs, families, obligations of their own). Still, Kate did more complaining than thanking and that burned bridges. After Kate came home after the tups births, she made it very well known that she still needed help. Ok. That's fine. Having six babies in the NICU entitles you to some help. But, it's very hard to help graciously when someone is going out of their way to make you feel inadequate. There were many who donated things for the "Hershey's Kisses". For the most part, things were shiny and new, having been donated by companies looking for the publicity. What really drove the wedge between the family and old friends was that Kate would go through donations and toss the hand-me-downs or used products because of the irrational excuse that the tups and twins may catch illnesses from the donated items. That's a ridiculous excuse and Kate, being a nurse, should've known that. If toys sit in a plastic bag for weeks or closets for months, any germs would be gone by the time they were to be used. Some of the stuff she turned away was very, very gently used and was perfectly fine. But, Kate wanted six of everything, so if it didn't match, it was gone. If it wasn't high quality, it was gone. She had a right to determine what she needed, but being picky about it when you're "struggling to raise eight" would make most people appreciate what they were being given. A good friend of mine overheard Kate make a statement that, "money would just be more useful" instead of "used up hand-me-downs." She would talk about the tups going through sleepers and onesies at a high rate, but turn her nose up at donations. If the baby is going to spit up on it, does it have to be new? Then there was the issue of caring for the tups when they got home. Kate took any opportunity to criticize. And, if you didn't worship her, you were out of there! The thing with the state nurse was the straw that broke the camels back for most of the locals. The tups are remarkably healthy for tups. Kate had a baby nurse and a few older women helping her do the day-to-day stuff. But, when she presented herself to the state to try and keep the nurse, she said that that other help was not as valuable because of the fact that she needed a nurse there to help her track the kids for illness. Well...did she forget SHE was a nurse? Did she forget that the women who were helping had children who, surely, at one time or another, were sick? If the kids had had serious health problems, people might have been more sympathetic. Her quip that it was society's obligation to pay for the nurse was the last straw for many. Then the organic madness started and her excuse, at first, was that she needed the security of knowing that her premies weren't going to get pesticides or chemicals. Well, gee, so she can toss out toys for fear of germs but had no problem bringing in unpasteurized apple juice and honey? She put the word out that she was going to raise the kids on organic and told the media. She later told a friend in passing that she was surprised certain businesses that did organic hadn't called her because the tups would be great advertising. I'll stop now. But, these are just some of the reasons people are tired of the drama.

iluveeyore said...

I am just curious about why this bananabethanna does not know how to spell Jon's name?

amy marie bullman said...

very true, iluveeeyore, i was thinking the same thing. doesn't everyone know it's J-O-N???

mrsbananabethanna said...

I'm sorry. My son's name is "John" (with an h). It's habit to put in the H.

FIONA said...

I lurk...and am pretty knowledgeable on the G's. I have no reason not to belive this person. It all sounds in line with what I do know. I hope you share more with us. I do not HATE the Gosselin's, but I have a difficult time stomaching the crap they have pulled. I don't think they are good parents or even good citizens. They are greedy takers. Nothing more than high class white trash IMO-using their children for their source of income. The more I see of Jon and Kate, the more I believe they are suited for each other. Used to blame Jon for having no man-berries, but he deserves what Kate dishes out! The children are what saddens me deeply. The collateral damage of 2 very ignorant and immature people. If you see TLC's new promo, they are making fun of the tup's "super powers" such as Vomiting On Demand, Stinky Feet etc. This promo shows me that TLC is 100% aware of the crap they are producing and could care less about the kids! Thanks for reading.

Serena said...

The children are what saddens me deeply. The collateral damage of 2 very ignorant and immature people.

Same here, Fiona. Those children may get "nice things" and "nice trips" and have a "good life" materially, but the price they pay for that is too high, in my opinion. They are, quite simply, the 21st century version of the Dionne Quints.

Not a Sheeple said...

If you see TLC's new promo, they are making fun of the tup's "super powers" such as Vomiting On Demand, Stinky Feet etc. This promo shows me that TLC is 100% aware of the crap they are producing and could care less about the kids!

I agree with that completely. It takes both TLC plus Jon and Kate to be making money off using the kids. Apparently none of them have read or if they've read then don't care about any of the studies done on the results of using children like this.

ATP said...

I do have issue with what mrsbanana... is saying in regards to the hand me downs. The 6 were premature babies. You have to be very careful what you bring into your home when you have children with compromised immune systems. I, too, would have thought twice before using hand me downs. Also, people who offer hand me downs (with the best of intentions) have emotional attachments to the items. They remember their little one using/wearing the item and might not see that the item is worn out, stained, or past it's prime. So, going though and tossing items is reasonable. You also need to remember that baby items get recalled for various reasons (chemicals and lead)and some items simply become outdated (car seats a prime example).

I don't know Jon or Kate, however, I do see where they might have been coming from in this instance. Not to mention on their show she seems a bit germaphobic!

FIONA said...

ATP....The clothing can ALL be washed, right? And carseat pads can be removed and washed as well. The plastic can be sanitized....sorry, but your comment does not hold water with me! She should have been THANKFUL for what was given and had at least the maturity, manners and insight to accept it with grace. Oh wait...we are talking about Kate Gosselin, right?

ATP said...

FIONA....with all due respect, my comment does not have to hold water for you.

Yes, clothes can be washed. However, clothes that are worn out can be a danger to a young child. (Loose snaps, buttons, out dated tie strings) Car seat pads can be washed...again no argument there...however...car seats get redesigned and updated just as cars do. Older seats may not be as safe in newer cars. Plastics can be sanitized, however, with all the recent recalls you have to be careful. Just do a web search, the info on these dangers is out there.

If it is true that she was rude about accepting hand me downs, I agree that was wrong. She should have graciously said "Thank you" and gone through them privately.

I don't know if you have children, but when you have a child or children who have a health issue (no matter how minor), you do what you think is best....even when others think you irrational.

FIONA said...

ATP,
If I read the post correctly, the handmedowns were very gently used. Comeon, we are talking about newborn clothing. I doubt the snaps were coming off and about to become a choking hazard!LOL! Hey I am an admitted germ freak....but I do know how to wash and clean. Same thing with Kate insisting on 6 matching cribs. She is a bitch!

Anonymous said...

I perfectly understand Kate. I would never wear "hand me downs." GROSS!!! I read that you cannot completely wash body soil off the clothes. Once again.........GROSS!!! I think that some people are upset because they donated a bunch of old crap and Kate didn't want it.

If Kate’s family doesn’t want to be involved because Kate did not accept some old cribs...........then SHAME ON THEM!!! Kate had a right to be bitchy after she gave birth to sextuplets. Do you realize how stressful it is to raise eight children??!!!!! Her family should’ve been supportive no matter what!!! That is what families do!!!

Also, somebody called her white trash!!! WHAT??????????????? Kate is so intelligent and classy.

mrsbananabethanna said...

ATP, from what I was told from the people who gathered things for the tups, they spent a lot of time making sure what they were passing along was something they'd willingly dress their own children in. There were things that were brand new bought by nice people who wanted to help but maybe couldn't buy six of that item and even some of the new stuff was passed on by the Gossleins because it didn't match or wasn't "quality". It's also insulting to those who gave to suggest that they would've given these babies stained, nasty clothing. Anyone who lived in that area at the time can tell you that these babies were showered with gifts and considered miracles. They were treated as such until Kate started being so picky and people felt like they'd been disposable. I know one lady who made each tup a quilt out of fabric scraps she had. A fabric store donated the batting and backing (fabric that covers the batting on the back side and binds the patches on the quilt together). This lady worked for two months after the birth and when she sent them with someone from church to the be given to the tups, she was told that they weren't accepting old blankets. They weren't old. They were brand new. We all felt so horrible for the elderly woman. The blankets were given to a NICU for other preemies.

Around the time the tups were six months old, I remember a list in church of the things they needed for people to fill as a gift of love. It'd been done before with families who came on hard times or had twins or really any situation that would leave a family with needs that they couldn't meet. Usually, the list was distributed during woman's bible study or whatever. The list we got for the Gossleins specified that things should match to reduce the sorting during laundry day. I have children and could never keep them in the same outfit all day until they were three years old so I wondered how it was Kate could keep everyone matching all day. I suspect she asked for the matching clothes because she figured people would have to buy new stuff to insure it was matching. My brother had twins at the time and he thought it was odd that she'd want matching clothes on six babies when you had so many people looking after them and confusion could cause them to be mistakenly identified. He always dressed one girl in pinks and yellows and another in greens and lavender. None of this makes Kate a bad person. It just doesn't seem like she feels/felt entitled to the best.

Serena said...

mrsbananabethanna: Would you please email me at serenaleighbell@yahoo.com? Got a question for ya... thanks!

Nikra said...

I can't believe some of you are saying you feel sorry for those kids. Are you all insane? Go visit www.parentsbehavingbadly.com there you will read about plenty of kids you should feel sorry for and are worth the time and your energy.

Kate and Jon love those kids! So what if she wanted matching outfits? Why should she have to put old clothes on her kids or even clothes she doesn't like? People give me clothes for my son and I gasp sometimes at what they give, I then in turn give them to someone who really wants them, I don't force it down their throats and demand they take it because I worked hard packing it.

Are you seriously putting down her choice to be all organic? Those kids are benefiting from learning how to eat healthy, thousands of american kids eat so badly they have health problems by their teen years. That is very silly to put her down for that. I wish I had the discipline and time to do that for my kids. I admire her for her strict eating habits.

So what if she didn't want those quilts from that old lady, did she ask for them? Maybe they were not practical. I get tons of lacy hand made stuff from my husband's family in Italy and it is not something I would put on my baby. She was a new mother of 6 kids and cut her some slack she is going to have emotional and hormonal issues. She may not take all the hand me downs - I don't like hand me downs either, that does not make me a bad person.

Kate is a great mom, those kids are well fed, well dressed, they are so smart and look like they are loving life. Jon and Kate have managed to stay married as 25% of couples divorce by the time their child is 5 years old in America - I would imagine the stress of 8 kids would have ended my life not to mention my marriage. The little fights Jon and Kate have are NOTHING..jeez they seem so in love. Come visit me and my husband and we only have ONE BABY.

As for making money off of the TV show, get over it already, they need to support their family and I love the show. THose kids are doing great..you people are crazy!

Also please don't forget those kids are HER kids and she has a right to give people who are caring for them rules to follow. The fact that Mrs. Bananarama even wrote that Kate would get upset if her rules were not followed is ridiculous, I have rules for my babysitter, that is my child, follow my rules.

Wake up - there so many kids suffering in this world of hunger, abuse, neglect and lack of love and Jon and Kate's 8 are NOT.

boo to you women who can't support Kate..BOO women are so harsh. I hope you guys are not mothers.

ATP said...

Well said Nikra. Why do women tear each other down instead raising each other up?

Serena said...

Why do women tear each other down instead raising each other up?

Ah, the magical "sisterhood of mothers" crap. I will never "raise up" a mother who is exploiting her own children and soliciting "love offerings" by using deceptive practices. Who would?

ATP said...

Ahhh Serena....thanks for proving my point....disagreeing and ripping apart are two very different things.

Anyways, the Gosselins did not invent "love offerings". This is very common with people who are invited to different churches to speak. Instead of charging the church a specific dollar amount, a basket is passed around to the people who attended the talk. Those people can give or not. I have seen it done many times.

Serena said...

Ahhh Serena....thanks for proving my point....disagreeing and ripping apart are two very different things.

ATP, you made no point to be proven or disproven. What you did was present a red herring disguised as a rhetorical question.

None of the blog authors here is "tearing down" or "ripping apart" Kate Gosselin. What we are doing is exposing the deceptive and destructive practices she and Jon are engaging in, at the expense of their children and the public.

Anyways, the Gosselins did not invent "love offerings". This is very common with people who are invited to different churches to speak. Instead of charging the church a specific dollar amount, a basket is passed around to the people who attended the talk. Those people can give or not. I have seen it done many times.

Of course the Gosselins didn't invent "love offerings". It is indeed a very common practice. What is not so common -- although hardly unprecedented -- is presenting a story that is outdated and irrelevant just before the collection of said "love offerings" in the hopes of tugging on the heartstrings of unsuspecting people so they will dig deep.

ATP said...

Oh for goodness sake! Really? None of the blog authors are ripping apart Kate Gosselin? Really? Have you read what has been posted?

I don't know the Gosselins. I honestly couldn't tell you if they are good people or not. Maybe they deserve all the negative attention. I am betting not one person on here really knows them either. (I mean actually knows them--knowing a friend of a friend of a friend, or living in the area, or heard them speak at church doesn't count as knowing them. What I do know is that there are several bloggers here talking about them in a negative way and there is no way for them to defend themselves. In my opinion, that IS tearing someone down.

And before anyone argues they have every right to their opinion--no argument from me--you do. But don't try to say you aren't ripping these people apart--you are.

Serena said...

Oh for goodness sake! Really? None of the blog authors are ripping apart Kate Gosselin? Really? Have you read what has been posted?

I've written half the posts here, and I stand by every word. And yes, I've read every post and every comment. Have you? Have you followed the links that document our words?

Yes, there is a lot of negativity being expressed, in the sense that people are exposing the reality of what the Gosselins are doing to their children and to the public.

We are reporting the Gosselin's behavior and actions and expressing our interpretation of the consequences of those actions. We believe their behavior and actions are destructive and deceptive -- what do you expect? That we "raise them up" in the name of the sisterhood of mothers? That we remain silent in the face of child exploitation? That we simply murmur faint criticism amongst ourselves so as not to "offend" anyone?

What I do know is that there are several bloggers here talking about them in a negative way and there is no way for them to defend themselves.

This is a public blog, of course they can defend themselves. (They know about us.) But they can't deny what is documented public record -- they can't even get it removed from Wikipedia because the Wiki powers that be have demanded proof and received it, and allow the Gosselin entry to stand.

In my opinion, that IS tearing someone down.

I would like to know what the alternative is when people observe what they firmly believe to be destructive and deceptive behavior, if they are not to speak out against it in outrage and criticism. Praise it? Ignore it? Their children deserve advocacy; people giving money to them deserve to know they are being deceived.

But don't try to say you aren't ripping these people apart--you are.

If the truth makes Jon and Kate look bad, is is the truth ripping them apart? Or is it merely the consequences of their own actions coming back to bite them?

Not a Sheeple said...

If the truth makes Jon and Kate look bad, is is the truth ripping them apart? Or is it merely the consequences of their own actions coming back to bite them?

If Jon and Kate did not do or say the things reported it, we wouldn't be talking about them. As Serena says, it's their own words and actions being pointed out and the contradictions in the stories that they've told and things they've said they will do being illustrated.

Just as Jon says he'll "do anything for his kids" that apparently does not include holding down a permanent regular job to support them, but it does include exposing four year olds at bathtime and going begging for handouts at churches around the country in exchange for a short talk about their money troubles four years ago.

Claire said...

For those who feel the show is nothing more than exploitation of the children, why do you watch? If I am to believe that these kids are being exploited, then I am also to believe that you have a perverted frame of mind to make a decision to watch said exploitation, no?

I don't blame Kate for not wanting to accept second hand clothes & blankets. Thrift stores even have strict guidelines for accepting/selling articles of clothing, so why shouldn't the mother of premature tups?

Kate, by her own admission I believe, has OCD tendencies which I'm sure are only enhanced with so many kids to look after. She has developed a system to handle the daily duties & share quality time with them, & she wants to avoid disrupting the flow of things whenever possible. She doesn't have time for bs & she's very forthcoming with what she wants/needs when it comes to help. Good for her.

Claire said...

OK so I just realized my "why watch" comment was already answered in thr FAQ section. However, I feel that answer is a cop-out & doesn't answer why one would continue to watch. You already know the premise of the show (with which you disagree), so really what is the point in continuing to watch? Do you really believe you're monitoring those children for their own good?

Serena said...

You already know the premise of the show (with which you disagree), so really what is the point in continuing to watch?

Closing our eyes to the exploitation and deception isn't going to help us get closer to our goal.

Do you really believe you're monitoring those children for their own good?

Absolutely I do.

Claire said...

Well if you truly believe that you are monitoring some other woman's children via an edited reality tv show, then I am officially freaked out. Do the Gosselins know they have a self-appointed virtual guardian to their chidren?

If you believe they are guilty of child exploitation, then stalking them (or "watching the show to monitor the children") isn't going to change anything. Why not just report them to DCF or the CEOS of the U.S. Dept of Justice?

Serena said...

Well if you truly believe that you are monitoring some other woman's children via an edited reality tv show, then I am officially freaked out.

Yes, you do seem rather excitable.

Do the Gosselins know they have a self-appointed virtual guardian to their chidren?

Oh they know.

If you believe they are guilty of child exploitation, then stalking them (or "watching the show to monitor the children") isn't going to change anything.

Correct. That's why we don't stop there. Watching the show is just the springboard.

Why not just report them to DCF or the CEOS of the U.S. Dept of Justice?

Thanks for the advice, but there are proper channels, and we are following them.

Anonymous said...

I LOVE Gosselins!!! They are a wonderful family!!!

STOP STALKING THEM SERENA!!!

Serena said...

I LOVE Gosselins!!! They are a wonderful family!!!

STOP STALKING THEM SERENA!!!


Yeah, I remember when I had my first beer...

Anonymous said...

I too love the Gosselins!!! I think they raising their children wonderfully!

And I know I will be opening a can of worms here, but I do relate to Kate in a lot of ways with the cleaning and germ thing. Also, I absolutely hate hand-me-downs. I'm very particular about what my kids wear and prefer new clothes and I like to pick them out. I know I sound like a snob but I spent my childhood wearing outdated hand-me-downs and I hated them!

Just thought I'd defend good'ol Kate. I happen to love her and no I am in no way associated with them, but I do live in PA, not too far from them and would love to run into them some day!

Anonymous said...

(You) People are was too hard on Jon and Kate. Granted, I am just an avid viewer of the show and have no personal realtions with either of them nor any of their family, friends, etc. However, as an avid viewer, I ADMIRE how they function as parents. I agree with critics who say that Kate is demeaning to Jon, and unfortunately we do not see if they ever make up for it behind the scenes. While she is hard on him, the stress the 2 of them, especially her being home with the kids most days, have to deal with must be unbearable!

When reading critical comments like these, I just want to scream "What would you do if you suddenly had SIX MORE BABIES and 2 already???!" They are doing the best they can. Obviously there is danger in having hte family on tv, as we have all seen in the past, but, i'm sure it pays the bills and is the insurance that htey will be able to provide comfortably for their family. If not doing the show, kate would have to work, and who would watch the children?

I think people are too hard on both of them, and while Kate may be nuerotic and ignorant at times, we need to step back and wonder how much better we would be doing with 8 young children.

Anonymous said...

Some of you are nuts. I can't believe that you are judging Jon and Kate. They are insprirationAL to us all. Thank God Kate is as assertive as she is. Anyone with less strength would be suicidal. They have six kids all the same age! and Two other that are the same age. Do you guys have a clue what that means. The family runs so well because Kate is a very strong individual. Jon and Kate are amazing parents. Most people would have aborted 4 of the six children during pregnancy. But THEY did NOT. They decided to go for it. Please give them a break. They are doing the best they can and they are doing great. I have a suggestions for the folks that are giving negative comments. MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS. GET YOUR OWN LIFE AND STOP TALKING ABOUT JON AND KATE'S LIFE.

Anonymous said...

With the exception of her brother and sister-in-law, Kate's own FAMILY doesn't want to have anything to do with her. 'Nuff said.

uppityredhead said...

For the life of me I cannot find anything inspirational or admirable about two individuals who exhibit an extreme lack of maturity and personal responsibility. Because they procreated and ended up with eight children (whom they appear to have been completely unprepared to parent in a responsible manner) is not sufficient reason to admire these two.

Turning their brood into a modern-day version of the Dionne quints is not admirable, and I personally draw no inspiration from this spectacle.

I admit that when I began watching J&K+8, I found the very early episodes charming. But as the children aged and the parents seemed to become less able to cope, I began to feel slightly easy, a feeling that was exacerbated by the passive/aggressive behavior displayed on the couch.

And I swear I had no idea that J&K profess to be devout Christians until the recent epi that showed them actually attending church. (BTW, does anyone besides me wonder how long those kids have been attending that Sunday school class? Surely after a few weeks or months, the tups would be used to their teachers and would not cling to their parents?) Does having eight kids mean one can leave the Christian principles of compassion, understanding, tolerance and caring at the door? Or hide them when you are in front of the camera.

OK, I was going to go on about how uninspiring it is to see one spouse humiliate and belittle the other but I won't....

...climbing off my soapbox now....

Anonymous said...

I will pick up where the previous soap box post left off and continue to add; J & K repeatedly during their couch confessionals profess and justify in response to such freebies as the Utah ski trip and hair transplant surgery to name a few, that they would never be able to afford or consider these types of things nor would they ever take money away from the family for these types of luxery items and are thankful for the opportunities. What makes their justification so outrageously ridiculous is that they fail to mention that such freebies are only available to them with conditions. QUID PRO QUO !! In order to get said free trip , hair transplant surgery, and teeth whitening J & K in turn must provide something in return. That 'something' is in the form of free advertising and product placement on the television show J & K + 8. A TV show where the primary focus is that of their eight children. If it werent for the children, J & K would NOT have a television show, NO show, NO freebies. No conditions of QUID PRO QUO...or in other words pimping out your children in exchange for monetary and personal gain!!

FIONA said...

Uppity red head.....that was a great post. Not a soap box at all. And I completely agree, nothing Christian acting about the family.

Bicoastal said...

I've read some of the favorable blogs for Jon & Kate on other sites. I feel no need to post comments to try and dissuade their fans from supporting them. I've noticed some anti-J&K posts on the "fan" sites and I really think those posters are wasting their time. Let their fans gush about how fabulous they find the parents.

But the same courtesy should apply here; why do the J&K fans feel the need to post on what is clearly an "anti-fan" site?

Many of their posts are almost identical, advising us to quit watching the show and -- my favorite -- stop the "hate." (I hate many things like war, Karl Rove, and overhearing strangers' cell phone calls; the Gosselin parents are not even a blip on my "hate-radar.")

I notice the most loyal J&K fans LOUDLY proclaim that if they could be on TV and get money and swag, they would do so in a heartbeat. I think that's one of the defining differences between the two groups.

I don't know why the J&K fans think avarice and a desire for celebrity are persuasive arguments; I wonder if most of the J&K fans struggle financially (like the Gosselins once did) and celebrate the parents' rise out of the struggling middle class.

Whatever the reason[s], many J&K fans seem to believe that the decision to have sextuplets ("HOW WOULD YOU HANDLE SIX BABIES AT ONCE????")and then live your family life on TV comes with some type of immunity from public scrutiny.

No matter how many times it is suggested to J&K fans that putting one's life on public display invites public comment, they just don't seem to connect the two.

I wonder if some of the J&K fans are responsible in hastening the close of the TWOP J&K forum by posting off-topic and wacky remarks (seemingly against the parents to create a backlash against the show's critics).

And I wonder why the show's defenders are here now. I have no desire to change their favorable opinions about the parents, who, by the way, I am sure love their children dearly and in no way are "abusing" them. Some of the anti-fan stuff is nutty e.g. contacting CPS about the parents; that's ridiculous and weird (akin to creating fan clubs to gush about three year-old children that are not your own).

I think us "anti-fans" are entitled to the same courtesy of our opinions. I find most of the J&K critics to be insightful, brilliantly sarcastic and smart enough to know a con job when we see one.

We are not HATING; we're RATING as all good TV critics do!

Anonymous said...

I'd like to know how they afford private school tuition on top of everything else?

Anonymous said...

i believe the twins tuition is already paid for/ free

Anonymous said...

Gulp. My babies used clothing and furniture that were hand-me-downs from friends and families. Some of the stuff even came from yard sales. Anything I got that I couldn't use I accepted graciously and dealt with it appropriately. Both kids were healthy and were never clothes-fussy teens. When I was done with the stuff, I gave away anything in good condition to be used again. I think Kate got so stressed out that she went off the deep end. If so, why not be humble and make peace at some point? I wasn't always happy about things my family did, but what's really valuable in life? We may not always be happy or satisfied, but friends and family are important and it sounds as if the people in J&K's life were at least well-intentioned. Kate "classy and intelligent"? If so, she doesn't choose to project those qualities. Inspirational? Not so much.

NewMom08 said...

Here's the other thing that comes to mind...
Kate often says (from the couch) that she is not fashion savvy, doesn't notice other people (like in TRU), and Jon tells her often to change shoes, etc...
IF that is so...then why is she so hung up on matching "high quality" clothes for the tups and why was she so invested in non used items for the babies. FOR GOD's sake... take what is given, and if you can't use it, re-gift it to someone else. No harm, no foul. But don't dishearten a well wisher, or spit on someone's generosity.
My baby grew out of newborn and 3 month sizes after wearing his clothes maybe one or two times each. They are as good as new. Many other people are in the same situation and would love to see someone use those expensive items. To have them thrown back in your face or not graciously accepted would be awful.
How ungreatful. How un-Christian. Really.
And for those who take offense to the un-Christian comment...I make it because J+K have put it out there that they are spreading God's love and sharing it as a part of their family mission statement. Not really if you ask me.

FIONA said...

Anonymous said...
i believe the twins tuition is already paid for/ free



I wish I could tell you how I know this, I have forgotten, but I am 95% certain that the twin's tuition for first grade was comped. The school has an excellent reputation. It is also a 45 minute bus ride, each way!

How's that for first grade?