Television Without Pity (TWoP) Thread Closed for Good

Question: What lasted only five weeks and accumulated just under 3,000 posts?
Answer: The new but doomed Jon & Kate Plus 8 thread on TWoP.

The
Jon & Kate Plus 8 thread on the website Television Without Pity (TWoP) has always been troubled, with frequent moderator interference -- posts edited, posts deleted, posters warned, posters banned, the entire thread placed on lockdown, etc. In fact the original thread was deleted entirely and a new one opened on May 2, 2008.

That new thread was plagued with the same problems, and was again locked down on June 11, 2008. It's now been confirmed that TWoP will NOT be re-opening that thread. So if you want your Jon and Kate fix, this blog would be a good place to continue discussing the Gosselin issues that seem to polarize so many people.

(There are also several other forums in which you may discuss Jon & Kate Plus 8: Fans of Reality TV and jk8forum.com. If you know of any others, please post them here.)

27 comments:

Erin said...

Boo. Fuckin' twop.

Holly said...

Well that sucks! I LOVE TWoP and the snark on the J&K Plus 8 thread is classic, but it did stray off topic on many occasions. The folks @ TWoP spell out the rules pretty clearly & I sincerely wish posters had tried harder to follow those rules. Honestly there was NOTHING better than reading that thread after the show aired on Monday nights & I'm gonna miss it.

Not a Sheeple said...

I'm going to miss it, too, but truly it was one of the most heavily moderated topics on TWoP. Maybe eventually we can have one back again.

Mary said...

From mod Strega on the Bugs & Info board: "The Jon and Kate thread used up its ninth life and is closed permanently."

Oh well, guess we'll all have to settle in here!

Christi said...

Crumbs. I was hoping they'd re-open the TWOP thread again (I know there was a new thread briefly, but it's gone now).

The TWOP thread was always great to snark on, and I got more fun out of that than watching the actual show. J&K is rapidly going the way of American Chopper and other shows I've stopped watching - when a show irritates me more than it entertains me, it's time to find a better use of time.

laura linger said...

Who cares? TWOP and its insane rules are sooooo ten minutes ago.

Somebody needs to teach them that the way they "moderate" is not the way to build online communities, and that they are not nearly as clever as they like to imagine they are.

YAWN. Next.

FIONA said...

The mod for that blog has serious control issues IMO. I say let's all move in here. But please, no micro managing....we are without PITY correct!

Dana said...

I for one am glad the thread is closed. What was posted hardly passed for "snark" and most uncomfortably bordered on insanity. It was like the adage "The internet gives everyone the right to be an asshole" taken to the nth degree. A lot of what was posted was often quite inappropriate and bordered on creepy like "Whoa!".

I always wondered when I read that thread what these posters were like in real life and never mind Kate's example, but what kind of example were they setting for their kids with the name calling and general nastiness.

Carrie said...

Darn! I had some great comments stored up too!

BTW, I was just watching J&K, and they have a little factoid asking what rooms in their house don't have production lighting installed. J&K's room and the twins' room. So the tups have production lighting installed in their room? What's the deal with that? Do those poor kids have any place in the whole house where they can get away??

Serena said...

So the tups have production lighting installed in their room? What's the deal with that? Do those poor kids have any place in the whole house where they can get away??
I'm sure they can use the toilet or bathe in peace, right? Their parents do have one iota of respect left for their privacy, right? Oh never mind, the camera crew follows them into the bathroom too, taping it all.

Hmm... I guess the answer to your question is "no".

Serena said...

A lot of what was posted was often quite inappropriate and bordered on creepy like "Whoa!".
I think there were occasional trolls who would come in posting really egregious crap just to stir the pot. Other than those rare occasions, I think posters were people just watching the show and voicing their opinions about it. If anything was "creepy", well the posters were calling a spade a spade -- if the shoe fits, J&K can wear it.

What kind of able-bodied white collar parents pimp their kids out, selling out their childhood instead of putting in an honest day's work?

What kind of parents allow non-related adults to roam around their home with cameras capturing footage that any day care in the country would be prosecuted for allowing?

What kind of parents jet around the country so much that their children develop pathological, neurotic ways to deal with it?

If you ask me, J&K got far more support from their sheeple fans than they ever earned, and most of the criticism they received was richly deserved.

TandooriMe said...

I never could understand the lazy modding done over at TWoP. It's too much work to actually ban a troll so lock the thread. Heck, there are plenty of forums over there that are worse then anything I saw on this show's thread. The little ones could be cute when they were suffering from low blood sugar or whatever excuse Kate had for their lack of discipline that week but Kate's constant martyr complex and berating of everyone else was just too much for me to handle and I just gave up on the show. That and the shows about installing shelves, carpet were boring enough but teeth whitening and hair plugs, just no.

Christi said...

I'll miss the TWoP board, actually. There were some trolls, but most of the posts were just because the show (Kate) gave us so much to work with.

J&K is a show that's just begging for a drinking game, too.

Mary Berry said...

I had a love/hate relationship with the TWoP J&k+8 thread. We were told it was ok to talk about the family's blogs. I posted a response to that whole "A person, B person" blog and later got warned for talking about the family blogs. The mods retroactively warned people for doing something they were told was ok but now wasn't. I thought the mods were ridiculous. Whenever a show over there has a huge following but isn't being recapped, they give it a bigger forum. Why didn't they do this with J&K? It would have solved a bunch of "off topic" subjects.

Robert said...

My wife and I love to sit and snark the show every Monday. I had just come across the TWOP thread a few days before it became perma-locked. I have to say it's probably for the better. It was by far the most over-modded fan type forum I had ever come across.
I understand wanting to keep it on topic, but the mods seemed to be a little obsessive.

FIONA said...

SERENA-
I sooooo agree with this comment:
What kind of able-bodied white collar parents pimp their kids out, selling out their childhood instead of putting in an honest day's work?

What kind of parents allow non-related adults to roam around their home with cameras capturing footage that any day care in the country would be prosecuted for allowing?

What kind of parents jet around the country so much that their children develop pathological, neurotic ways to deal with it?

I am sorry for the kids...but J and K are going to get what they deserve in the end. Too sad for the kids. Maybe the sister will intervene and try and help and use her sermons on Kate and Jon.

M.N. said...

Those who commented about the modding on that thread are vying for the Understatement of the Year Award. It was pathetic. I vowed that if they ever messed with one of my posts, I'd tell them that I didn't need a GD editor & get banned with a bang! Good riddance to bad {snip - TWirP Barnes or Mars} rubbish, I say.

The modding killed every oz. of snark on that thread... IMO... YMMV... JMHO... oh pleeez dont ban meee!!! Lol. Between this blog & other sites, I have no doubt I will always have a place to snark about America's #1 (exhausted) mom & her 9 kids... including two (TWO!) sets of multiples!!

[Edited because some people have just that much time on their hands.]

Mary Berry said...

TWoP Barnes is kind of a loser anyway. Have you ever seen her blog? modjuliebarnes.blogspot.com She actually blogs about the things she has modded. Jeeze, lady, get over yourself.

AireZoe said...

If TWoP, since being purchased by Bravo,, is trying to build a community and increase page views for advertising, closing one of the most popular threads sure isn't a way to accomplish much. I never posted but read every crazy page in the J&K threads. I know my traffic at TWoP will be much, much less frequent. And I'm coming over here! Maybe you'll get some advertising and can retire to create new sites.

Anonymous said...

I was wondering what happened to the pity forum. I was finally catching up/reading all the posts when suddenly I noticed I caught up way faster than I expected. Now I know why, it's because they closed it. I'm not even sure how I found this blog, but I'm bookmarking, so I can get the scoop of J&K.

Anonymous said...

I never posted on the Jon and Kate TWOP site but read it daily.
I agree that the moderators over there were seriously over the top. Whenever I would read the "Try not to be so creepy people" comment I would cringe with disgust. Since when did snarking on a show suddenly become creepy? Commenting on the children's reactions to being over exposed isn't creepy it's just well...commenting. If anyone over there was weird, controlling, and creepy, it was the mods.

rludeman said...

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Serena said...

rludeman - looks like you figured out to post comments. If you are asking how to write a blog entry for the main page, the instructions are here in our CONTRIBUTORS WELCOME post on our main page, or you may email your submission to me at serenaleighbell@yahoo.com. Hope that helps!

Anonymous said...

I'm really glad I stumbled upon this blog because I, too, miss the J&K forum on TWoP. All of the other forums I found were the same old ass-kissing. Yay for GWoP! Great name, too.

mplsloon said...

I'm glad I found this blog today. I too use to post at TWoP but my last post, I was told was "off topic" because I questioned if the freebies the Gosselin's were receiving had to be reported to the IRS. I'm just a viewer who doesn't know friends or family members. I was just curious because the Dad, Jon did not seem to work and I wondered if this was his income.

Anonymous said...

I was wondering what had happened to the forum. I was disappointed to see it had been permanently locked. I like TWoP but feels the rules are too oppressive.

Davis~ said...

IMO the TWoP duggar thread and the roloff thread have the same type of content (snark) as the JK+8 thread had. I'm still trying to figure out why it's ok in one thread and not the other? Glad I found this place! I hate that they over moderated that thread. It was borderline stupidity on the Mods part.