Houses and Big Changes Recap

This is the show where Jon and Kate will be making a huge announcement! I can hardly wait!

Jon warns us that this is the hardest episode ever. I appreciate his warning and prop toothpicks into my eyelids to keep from dozing off.

There it comes! The big reveal is that Kate's "goal is peace for the kids". OMG! I had no idea! continue


Submitted by guest recapper Marinka. Check out mouthyhousewives.com for more snarky goodness!

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BucksCoGirl said...

What is driving me crazy is that all these people I know who watched last night are now sympathizing with Kate. I just want to grab them all by their shirt collars and scream "You don't know the half of it! She's acting!"

Deep down I know she has some shred of affection for her children but it is far outweighed by her affection for herself. Maybe she'll go into acting now actually because she did a damn good job of it last night.

LovinMyRugrats said...

This just in:
"Jon and Kate Plus 8 goes on production hiatus"

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2009/06/jon-kate-plus-8-goes-on-production-hiatus.html

NYMom said...

I couldn't believe Kate actually said that Jon has a lot of anger at her and she doesn't know why. How clueless is this woman?!

The other dumb statement of the night was Jon saying someone might offer him a job. Uh, doing what?

Jen said...


Does anyone have a timeline when these interviews were done? My thought is they were done around the tups birthday party.... I can't tell. It all seems so pieced together. I don't think it was very recent based on Kate's hair...


posted by NoDramaMama
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I was thinking they were done around the birthday party as well. She is wearing the exact same outfit (grey shirt, khaki skirt) as she is in the interviews from the tups birthday party.

Reading news said...

...Amy... said...
Ooh! Forgot to mention...anyone notice that they parked in a handicapped spot at the restaurant? I thought that they maybe would have moved it once the kids were inside...but I highly doubt it. I sincerely hope someone who really may have needed that spot wasn't denied it...oy.
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There were no customers there that day so I guess it wouldn't have mattered. The Green Hills Inn is not open during the day.........more b.s. from TLC.

Also, in the comments section in today's Reading Eagle article about the divorce someone has posted the link for the divorce filing. It looks as though they filed together but only Kate is listed as having legal counsel. Also, they give a post office box in Shillington as their home address.

momto5 said...

Mariasmom,
thanks for the update. This is good news, hopefully the kids get a break from filming for a long time or forever. I also believe TLC is probably being slammed for even portraying this family misery on tv, and will back off for a bit, as to not lose audience, as I suspect they are already losing viewers in the droves. They went way over the line and they know it! About time. Jon and Kate need to get back to earth, and realize they are losing favor with the viewers. I hope they just stop filming, and focus on their kids. Financially I hope they are prepared, because once their popularity wears off, people will stop watching and buying their stuff and move on to the tv family. I will pray this show break is a permanent one!

Bonnie said...

Marinka,Excellent!

Reading news said...

NYMom said...
I couldn't believe Kate actually said that Jon has a lot of anger at her and she doesn't know why. How clueless is this woman?!

The other dumb statement of the night was Jon saying someone might offer him a job. Uh, doing what?

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I also found it interesting that he didn't say that he would be looking for a job, only that someone might offer him one. Maybe he could be Dr. Glassman's surgical assistant.

Anonymous said...

Last nights episode made me sad. I saw a comment where Jon said that yesterday was just another day. How untrue. The dissolution of a marriage is NEVER just another day for children.

The legal eagle said...

All I really have to comment on is "Nice earrings, Jon. They make you look soooo pretty" Time to get out of the way back machine in trying to trying to be younger than you really are. I hate to see when Jon gets in his late 40's what a mid-life he will through then.

momto5 said...

sorry i meant move on to the next tv family

...Amy... said...

Posted by ManicNarcissim: "4/21 was the date that her and Jon were supposed to film a romantic night away at The Stable Bed and Breakfast."

They didn't go away together, did they? I guess the not-a-nanny could not-stay over to take care of the kids...

skillset said...

I laughed out loud when I saw these new pictures of her...nothing like drawing MORE attention to yourself ...

http://justjared.buzznet.com/2009/06/23/kate-gosselin-toyota-car/

RNmom2six said...

Thanks for the recap. I didn't watch and now I am done with all things J&K.
I am physically sick thinking about the children who are being used and all of the adults profiting off them.

I am even sick of the people who watched and gave the show ratings to enable all of these people to profit off of the children.

This exploitation will not go away as long as there are people who will tune in to watch the destruction of these children's lives. The marriage ended long ago and the children have been forced to act.

It is not a reality show. It is scripted and these children are working hard to support all the people who are profiting.

I won't participate any longer. I will not look at any item that has their name whether on the internet, TV, or print. In my heart I know I become part of the machinery that is using the children if I do.

BarbMae said...

WooHoo!!! TLC HAS ANNOUNCED THAT JON & KATE PLUS 8 HAS BEEN PUT ON HIATUS UNTIL AUGUST AND NO NEW EPISODES WILL BE FILMED....(hopefully ever again).....The show is done, done, done. TLC made the decision not Jon and Kate like that is going to make TLC smell like a rose.... they probably were going to lose some big time advertisers so they pulled it. TLC you still stink like a skunk and in IMO it is going to take a long time for you to not stink for awhile after exploitation you are doing with your "reality family shows"... Finally the kids can enjoy their summer and get use to joint custody with their parents.

An Bamper said...

Watching the few clips of the show online(I don't have television) I have been following this whole thing with interest.The first few episodes I ever saw before we got rid of TV all I could think about was how she treated her husband and family. And now down to this, in the couch interview you can tell Jon still has space for Kate in his life he leaves her side of the couch open and Kate sits int he middle! He has tried to shun the spotlight she revels in it. I think Jon is just a sinking man and Kate has been pushing him under for years. Male ego is a fragiel thing and who thought he would continue to put up with being treated like a slug on public airings? I'm not surprised int he lease about the whole tign at all!

Jeanie said...

I hope the hiatus turns into they close down the show. I have no use in seeing Stevie Boy and Katie Queenie Bee get married and forcing those kids to choose between Jon and Steve. And I don't want to see step-mom....whoever either.

Those poor kids will have no idea who or what their family really is. They will have trust issues from here on out, all of them. I imagine in 20 years we will be hearing about their multi-marriages and divorces, substance abuse rehabs, legal proceedings and all that comes from such a highly dysfunctional family.

And Kate had the nerve to say she's a better mom than Octomom. Octomom is looking like mom of the year compared to Kate. I can't say much about the father of either set of children as both fathers seem to be merely sperm donors, one of which got in trouble when he actually wanted to be validated.

MM2005 said...

Marinka, I didn't watch last night, and given the somber subject matter, you really had your work cut out for you. You performed brilliantly! Thank you for the genuinely witty recap. I, like others have noted, needed a good laugh.

Someone posted that "agreeance" is really a word. The information below comes from google.

Per dictionary.com
agreeance - Usage: considered obsolete and a bastardization of 'agreement'

Per urbandictionary.com
agreeance - What stupid people say instead of agreement.

parenting5 said...

Jon's comment about the paparazzi caring more about what he eats for lunch than soldiers in IRAQ made me so angry. How about Jon reflect on the fact that there are soldiers dying in IRAQ while he cares more about sports cars and drinking with 20 year olds at 2AM? It just shows he is as much of a narcissist as Kate is.

If I could talk to Jon and/or Kate I would like to tell them that they are both wrong in thinking that separating is the best thing for their children. Their biggest mistake was defining every action/decision as "what is best for the kids." If they would have taken some time to do "what was best for their marriage," and realized that a healthy marriage was/is "best for the kids" maybe the children would not have ended up another sad statistic. Couples going through divorces always try to justify it by rationalizing that it is best for the kids and that kids are resilient, adaptable and strong. In his People mag interview, Jon even said some crap about how the children will lean on each other and stick together. And Kate, with her I breathe for my children and do everything for them...I hope she knows that is why she is no longer living with the father of her children! As someone who has seen the devastation divorce brings to children from many angles and the pain they carry from it into their own adulthood, it just makes me so sad.

If Jon and Kate really wanted to bring peace to their children they would find a way to repair their marriage and move forward (no not "go back" Kate!) in a healthy relationship together.

So Jon Gosselin... while there may be many people hurting in Iraq, you have no clue how much you are hurting eight of your very own. By the time you realize that establishing your manhood outside your marriage, family and home was not worth it (and you will realize it someday.)...it may be too late for your eight beautiful children.

Anno said...

I'm hoping the hiatus turns out to be a permanent one.

Even if it's not for the right reasons (I bet they are hoping the negativity over Kate dies down), the kids will at least get a break.

I agree with Kate's brother and sister-in-law, don't watch this child exploitation.

BMWoP said...

I hope this "production hiatus" gives the producers time to reflect that every episode lately has either been about something free being given to them, or a trip. It's a common beginning-of-the-show theme now, to see them sitting in their driveway and listening for the sound of motors coming down the driveway...bringing them something.

Trips..Freestuff..More Trips...More Freestuff...Gimme Gimme Gimme

No wonder Jon and Kate don't want to end the show. The trips and free stuff are like Heroin to them.

Team Jon said...

I went for a swim instead of watching. When I walked in from the pool deck, all three of my kids were lined up on the couch watching it! It was the tail end of the show. I asked what the "big announcement" was. My 5-year-old said "they are handicapped because they parked in a handicapped parking spot."

Mystery solved...

B in Lee said...

So. The kids will remain in the Gosselin McMansion, and will get to see their parents come and go as their rotations in the master suite dictate. We can assume that along with Mommy and Daddy will come the current 'Flavor Of The Month'/'Lay Of The Day'. What a wonderful life for kids.

Shame On TLC & KON said...

Loved your recap, Marinka. You have a gift, friend.

This big announcement is a surprise to anyone? When I stopped watching in the 2nd season I was saying Jon would only take so much crap from her before he would crack and run. I hoped against hope that he would take the kids and be their primary caregiver. But he did not stand up to Kate when it mattered and he won't stand up to her now for the sake of (insert fake tears here) the kids. It is easier for him to walk away and pretend to be pre-Kate and pre-kids and back to age 20.

TLC will never be viewed on any
TV in my house until this show is off the air. I will continue to look here for sponsors to write and to boycott, but not one more second of "entertainment" at the expense of these children.

Hambone said...

I have a feeling this is just the first of many divorces between the two of them. I can totally see both of them being married multiple times because they just lose interest in things so fast, and it's on to something bigger and better. They never will be happy with what they have and will always be looking for the next best thing..including people.

KidsRthePriority said...

Well, if Kate took half a day for her feelings, I guess that means each child will have about 5 minutes - the same five minutesfor each of them. Don't want Kate stressing all by herself about having to deal with their unhappy feelings. After all, the show must go on.

Thank you Jodi/Kevin and Julie for letting us know how it really was/is. This show didn't ruin this marriage. This marriage was always at risk, Jon's/Kate's greed and selfishness is what sent it over the edge. At no time did either of them sit down and realize that the family was more important than their individual egos and then make the necessary compromises for the welfare of their eight children.

I just cringe when I think how TLC will exploit the kids' feelings about the split. They already started with Alexis telling Jon she didn't want him to go away anymore. This is such a private matter and the kids are so vulnerable. SO, as Kevin requested in the latest video, "please stop watching the show."

Judy said...

Good recap, haven't watched in over a year, but I have to say I have serious doubts that keeping the kids in the house was done first and foremost for *their* needs. The house, like the other one, is more than likely set up as a studio complete with lighting, etc., so if the trainwreck...err...show is to go on, that was the practical decision because of the set up.

Would someone gag these losers already? I don't see this show surviving.

Natalie said...

I get the feeling watching Jon on that couch alone he still expects someone to correct him or whack him every so often. He seems so on edge.

MomofFour said...

This entire thing is so disturbing to me it makes my stomach hurt and I'd be afraid to take my blood pressure right now. I am so glad TLC made the decision to take a break. This is so disturbing it's beyond words really. It's the equivalent to...in the 70s if the Brady Bunch got divorced. It's just wrong in every sense. In fact...I have to take a break from this just to keep my own sanity. I hope that people will turn away and take a deep breath and just pray that some answers come to this family and they both gain their senses. If this becomes a huge, ugly divorce played out for the world to watch...with those babies destroyed...or even worse if somebody commits suicide or does something drastic as a result...TLC is 100% responsible. This just goes beyond anything I have ever seen and it's just disturbing.

Annie said...

You can tell this marriage is over for good when Jon said he was "excited" about his new life. He probably feels he has been set free. If they have been married for ten years, then Jon was only 22 when they married; he missed out on alot of things and probably wants to make up for lost time.

Jenny Brewer said...

its only fair that the kids get to stay in the house full time, it was paid for with THEIR money.

amanda said...

The show last night, what small parts I allowed myself to watch of it, was the saddest piece of television I have seen in a long time. TLC and the Gosselins should be ASHAMED of themselves for capitalizing on this moment-- for commercializing it. UGH. I can't go on about this anymore. In terms of their production "hiatus"... sounds to me like they are just waiting for the storm to blow over. Then, they will just try to carry on as usual. More shows, more freebies- you'll see! The show will be back as usual. Guaranteed. Kate has the greed in her veins, it's not going anywhere.

Judy said...

And I hope "hiatus" means "goodbye-atis" for these 2 hangnails on the fickle finger of fate.

No Drama Mama said...

I have a feeling Kate put a halt to ther gravy train by filing for divorce yesterday..... I think TLC wanted to spin the whole "Will they get back together?" angle and well, she pretty much said no by filing for divorce......

wendyzr said...

The kids will live in the house and whoever has the time with the kids will live in the house. I'm guessing that the parent that is not with the kids at a given time will be living in Cara's coffin house.

Jon and Kate tell us that they are doing everything for the kids. Jon won't be there every day. They'll have a schedule. He'll miss them.
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There you go. the premise of the rest of the season. Visitation.

Does anyone really think that we are going to see the truth of what is going on?

Whatever happened to Kate saying when this show is not good for anymore, we'll stop? HOW can this be good and I know they never asked the kids outright what they want.

amanda said...

I was thinking about it... and the house is basically now solely the SET for the show. The kids alone live there as a primary residence and it is being established, mainly, as a means for filming a show. Isn't that sick?? The kids are now living in a home that is being maintained soley as a TV set for a show (that's some blah blah blah bs about it being the "kids house"-- those greedy selfish parents have never put those kids first). Let's get real-- if this were not a reality show, Jon and Kate would not be sharing that home after the divorce, and coming and going for half the week each or however they are splitting it. They need to have it as a place to film the show! So the kids are living on the tv set, which is no longer the primary residence of either parent. How gross. This really takes the exploitation of the kids to a WHOLE NEW LEVEL.

minnow said...

Way to go Jon!! finally, taking the trash out! cheated or not, i'm glad jon is getting out of there. i just hope the rest of america realizes what a complete PSYCHO Kate is and sees that she ultimately is the main cause of her failed marriage AND family!

I also LOVED the recap! I didn't watch the episode and i was so glad to know that i'm not the only one who finds it extremely annoying that Kate asks questions to herself then answers them.

but honestly, i wish jon would speak up more. tell more of his side.... i absolutely hate it that kate is manipulating the entire situation and making herself into a martyr. i think that, above all else, irks me the most.

ONTmom2boys said...

In the beginning, when the show was actually about raising 8 kids, I was a huge fan. It didn't take long for me to realize what a scam this whole set up was and the deciding factor in me turning my back was the purchase of the McMansion.

I watched the show last night and honestly felt sad. Not for Jon or Kate but those children. One day they will tell the storey of "my parents got divorced when I was..."

That won't be their only issue. They have been exposed to so many different people in their lives, strangers, camera crews, baby sitters, and even family members who have been plucked away, never to return. Is that not damaging?

Even at the recent birthday party, it was the whole class and a teacher. Where are the friends, the cousins, the neighbours that the average birthday party invites?

Kate has made it very clear "this is our life". Then cries and says she doesn't want to be alone and have to do this by herself.

Maybe Kate should have thought about that before eliminating the people in her life that she now needs for support.

Those kids will have issues, they would have without the divorce. Someone needs to get those kids connected with grandparents, aunts, uncles and cousins and friends other than siblings. Kate you screwed up, it cost you a husband don't mess this up too.

It seems Kate would rather be herself, stick to her rules, than admit she's over the top. Keep tanning and bleaching while your family crumbles.

Everyone wants what is best for the kids, Kate is smiling on the outside while crying on the inside. Be human. Cry. Humble yourself to apologize to the people you have alienated and beg that they take you back.

Just a thought...

Laurie said...

I think "production hiatus" in TLC speak means "maybe if we take the show off the air for a couple of months everyone will forget about this debacle and accept the show as Kate +8"......they really do think that we are that stupid.

Bladeofgrass said...

IMO this show is over. It does not take long for people to lose interest when someone is 'out of sight' and move on to the next circus or trainwreck. The kids are past the cute stage and coming into the the 'I am six and know it all" stage. They are off to school in September anyway. I am sure there will be specials and updates...but I really believe this is the end of the seasons (crossing my fingers and toes).

It is weird, I feel some relief this afternoon, after being so angry last night and this morning. It feels like a chapter has come to an end and there might be a light at the end of the tunnel for the kids. I pray every night for the children that they will be out of the spotlight and return to real lives and not 'let's pretend' lives.

Thank you GWOP for all your hard work, patience and great recaps.
Thank you to all the posters...I have learned so much from you. You all are a great bunch of people!

God Bless the Gosselin children and keep them in your prayers, hearts and minds.

Canaan said...

What they should have done is kick the camera crews out. Lock their gate, throw their cell phones out the front door, turn off the home phone have food delivered to them and not come out of their house until the marriage and communication was worked out in a way that would have saved their marriage.

Option #2.. Go on a couples only vacation. Just one or two weeks. Without cell phones, In a remote place. Find each other again. Find out why you fell in love with each other in the first place and not come home until you did everything in your power to save your marriage with communication.

I cannot believe they would dump their marriage over the show!

Jon & Kate, If you want peace for your kids. Do the above, because truly that is putting your kids first and finding peace for your kids.

When a entire NATION is giving you this advise to stop the show and put your marriage first?

We ALL CANNOT BE WRONG!

Jean Ellen said...

Jonny G. and his tractor. He sort of marks territory with it, don't you think? Who would give this fool a job...and doing what? Also, Jon lose the earrings. No seriously lose the earrings.

Miss Kate really needs to get over herself.

Predictions: Jon will become some sort of "E" list celebrity...maybe even appear on "I'm a Celebrity Get Me Out of Here". Kate will put out a new book lickety split and then get married to Mr. Gray Haired Security Man...and organize fund-raisers. Some of the kids will get tattoos that say "Dad"...others will get "Mom" and take to the road on their Harley. A couple of kids will be stereotypical over-achievers who will eventually write a book about life with Jon and Kate and the soundman.

Mercifully, I hoping we've almost seen the last of this pitiful show....and I wonder if TLC will ever admit to a certain amount of culpability with this fiasco. Not that it matters much now.

Wanda said...

Kate was SO phony last night. Trying for an Emmy maybe? How many times did she say that she's doing this "for the children." As if she is enduring untold hardship for her kids. And she had the unmitigated gall to say the monster house was "for the children." Remember the first episode in the new house when Kate stood at the window and said, "This is MINE, MINE. All MINE." For the children my butt!

Daydream Believer said...

I haven't read all the comments. In reference to when it might have been filmed(the brunch). Could it have been Easter Sunday?

Lee said...

Two boobs - Jon & Kate
Two bigger boobs - Kate's
Four diamond earrings - Jon's

Monica D' Amato said...

I think Jon is going thru a midlife crisis. First,,the "girly man" workout, the earrings, Hairplugs, and the 2 seater car he rolled up in at the birthday party. He is a piece of work. And it is all Jon's fault..

Pauper Princess said...

Katie said...
The headline in today's People "after the events of this past weekend, Jon left me no choice" but to file for divorce "to protect myself and my children". Wanna bet she's gonna take the kid hitting his head and turn it into some sort of Kramer vs. Kramer child abuse bs. She's playing the victim to the hilt.

6/23/2009 7:19 AM
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I was reading a post here last night from someone who had access to the records...JON was the one who filed, not Kate.

Were they wrong?

wendyzr said...

The hiatus is just "catch up" Last nights show was filmed only a week ago or so. the other shows they had been working on are going to be dumped. Everyone knows so they have to go with what is going on. they will probably start with the "vacation" in NC that poor Kate had to take alone....with the nannies, the body guards, assistants, and crew.

Beth said...

I just hope the divorce judge steps in and does these things:

1) Appoints a guardian ad litem to represent the best interest of the children.

2) Requires a period of counseling for Jon and K8 that would begin to set up parameters for their interaction as a divorced couple and how they will interact with their children around the subject.

3) Creates a shared custody agreement that is fair to both parties instead of assuming that the children should only belong with the mother as some states automatically assume.

4) Protects these children's assets by forcing the parents to set aside money as a part of the divorce settlement that will remain untouched in trust for education purposes until the children are ready for college. This should also have the safeguard of a court-appointed conservator of that money, rather than parents having any ability to withdraw.

And 5) Come to a clear agreement, given the laws of the State of PA, about when the children may engage in work. This could be a very good chance for this judge to protect these kids from more exploitation by defining what they do as work and applying existing laws.

ManicNarcissism said...

Ok
, I posted my prediction this morning about how Kate was pissed Jon was going to stay on the show and that is why she filed for divorce.

Well, my speculation is TLC and Kate have decided to go on hiatus but Jon and Kate plus 8 will never be back. August 3rd we will see the new and improved KATE show. I think the kids will be on but will be not emphasized, just background like the Denise Richards show.

Anyone in a betting mood?

Sabrina said...

I am a marriage counselor & am always amazed when people expect the other person to behave differently AFTER the split. I always say, if they were a$$holes together, they will be a$$holes apart. So, don't expect Kate to stop talking negatively about Jon.
Very, very sad.
I think the cause for their decline is primarily Kate's verbal & emotional abuse. Everything else was secondary. Too bad she will never see that.

red said...

Loved this recap!

I have refused to watch the show after the first episode of the season on the grounds that without viewers there would be no show.

Last night though I thought what the heck, maybe there is not a big satellite or something in the sky counting receivers tuned to TLC and so I began watching Jon clear the woods.

As soon as Kate only had 5 whatevers for 8 kids to eat I got so irritated that I clicked one station down to "Swamploggers" and went to get a snack (that I didn't have to share) and waited for the recap on here.

Recap was so good I had to re read today. Thanks making us laugh on the outside while we are hating on the inside.

Lisa NH said...

Well since the show is on hiatus now (hopefully a permanent one) maybe they will give more air time to Dr. Jen Arnold and Bill Klein, the Little Couple. I don't mind watching them because they are clearly more level headed and intelligent people than the Gosselins ever were.

Kristi said...

I half expected them to go off and do personal ads for themselves..

"Hi I'm Kate, I like pinnacle adas and getting lost in the rain (but dont u dare forget my umbrella)...Im looking for a strong man who is preferrably a MUTE...."

"Hi...Im Jon....Im just 32 yrs old and Im a big boy now! I'm looking for someone to cuddle and and have drinks with...I like 20-24 yr olds...I am housebroken too!"

UGH This show makes me sick!

d-i-v-o-r-c-e said...

anyone notice how happy and "over kate" jon is ? it's like he's looking forward to life without this constant shrew of a woman. she probably begged him to stay "for the kids". he seemed so disconnected from her... she was just some orange lady with dirty feet. oh and i've never seen a mom who so totally hates playing with her kids! she totally hates jon and she really needs help. this is going to get ugly...

ihatethisshow said...

yes, it DOES MATTER about the handicapped parking spot. it is ILLEGAL to park in a handicapped parking spot, 24/7--regardless if the entire parking lot is empty. PERIOD. these people are so incredibly stupid

MOconcernedmom said...

This is the first time I've commented here, but I've read the posts & blogs for months. My 13 year-old daughter has watched the show since the beginning. I've always commented on the way that Kate has treated Jon. Jon has definately made mistakes but Kate has too. One word - counseling! Have they ever met with a couselor or pastor??

Last night was sad, especially for my daughter. I don't think TLC or Jon & Kate know the impact they have had on the young people that watch their show. This isn't fiction!!! She told me "they are getting a divorce" and started crying.

Shame on TLC & shame on Jon & Kate!! I've never watched the show much but it has an impact on my daughter and I'm sure others. I've told her to stop watching but the show is like an accident (you keep watching to see what happens)!

I'm glad they are stopping the show's production for a while. I'm sure it will continue but it gives us a break!

On another note - Did Jodi & Kevin get paid to make their comments? My daughter won't believe anything they say because she said they are getting paid a lot of money.

Thanks for keeping us Moms aware of what's going on!

clara said...

my favorite part is when kate was explaining the kids living situation and she says "the kids will stay in their house, i've always called it their house."

well duh THEY bought it for you through their childhood being publicized for the whole world to see.

and jon looked like a little boy in a candy store when he was talking about the divorce. i've never seen him look so excited.

and then the icing on the cake was when they went to brunch with the kids to celebrate the divorce

unbelievable

JFaye said...

I hope Kate's attorney got a 200,000 retainer. I practiced divorce law for 20+ years and I've represented many "kate's", male and female, during that time. I am not taking Jon's side, but I am able to at least have perspective on why he is doing some of the things he is doing now that he is away from her.

She is definitely the more dominant personality. She ran the empire. She chased away all of the extended friends and family and outside support that the couple had, isolating Jon and the children. Yes, he went along with it but ask anyone who has ever been in the midst of emotional/physical abuse what that does to their self esteem, and you may understand why he did not stand up to her more.

I hope that once he passes through this phase (and gets his own attorney) he will do what is best for his kids and stand up to her. Most likely, he will be there when he can an abdicate them to her. If you hadn't noticed, that is what was happening anyway. Kate was captain of the Jon & Kate Plus Eight crew.

wendyzr said...

That was funny with Jon complaining the paps don't care about the real news only what Jon had for lunch.

What does he think he is Brad Pitt or something? They only report what he has for lunch. Still no one cares.

Like the recap, only who he has lunch with matters.....and how he sneaked out!

Terry K. said...

Great recap! You had me in side splitting laughter many times, but especially at agreeance!

I actually feel a little guilty about laughing at this trainwreck (though I can't help it). It's too surreal.

Seriously, though, I'm really worried about the kids. Can you say Britney x Lindsey x Michael Jackson x a billion? That's what the kids messed-upness is going to amount to-- very sad.

patreena said...

I am so sick of Diva Kate. All attention needs to be on HER & the kids have become "props" for her spot in front of the camera. She's a mean spirited person or she wouldn't continue to take such mean jabs at Jon. He is finally stepping up after people accuse him of being weak but it was always obvious he was trying to avoid confrontation on camera so she got away with her meanness usually followed by loud laughs.
Last night's show was extremely difficult to watch so I won't watch anymore shows.
TLC should be ashamed of exploiting this family for ratings. They're perpetuating the destruction of these kids' lives & I don't want to witness it.

jojow said...

How truly horrible for these poor kids. Especially only a year after the whole "we'll be together forever" stuff. They must be so confused.

I had a thought though. I wonder if they are even telling the little kids they are getting divorced. Since the kids stay in the house and mom and dad come in and out, really, nothing is changing. They could probably go another year before even telling them, "oh by the way, mommy and daddy aren't married anymore, and here's my new boy/girl friend."

I wonder how soon we will see official confirmation of the boy/girl friends?

It really is so sad. I just can't imagine these kids going through this on tv. Especially Cara and Mady. God, I can only HOPE they have these kids good therapists. Then again, when your head is stuck in the sand, I guess you can't admit they need them.

NOW is the time for TLC to lay down the law. Fine, you can have your stinking ratings, since no one clearly cares enough to stop the show for the kids. BUT, DEMAND, INSIST, REFUSE to film if these kids aren't in counseling.

If there is money at stake, Kate will agree to it.

It's just so, so, so, so sad.

Oh well said...

The Crooked House people sure did seem nice. I see now that they were probably an innocent party sucked into this mess my TLC and Jon and Kate's greed. While I was watching the people interact with the kids and saw how excited and happy the kids were, I felt sort of bad for posting mean comments onto their blog. Oh well.

patreena said...

Kate's tears last night were totally disgusting. What an act. Anybody with her mean mouth has asked for this end.
No man would take the meanness she gives Jon. She always checks to see where the cameras are after jabbing him then laughs loudly as if it was all a big joke.

Terry K. said...

Reading news said that the Green Hills Inn is not open during the day, so that's another sham. I was so over it when Cara was reading the menu about the organic pancakes, and the organic fruit, and the organic juice and the organic water. Organic this! Seriously.

Apparently the Green Hills Inn is open for bruch on Sundays, but obviously the Gosselins are too sought out to eat with the public so they had to rent out the entire restaurant for a private fete.

wendyzr said...

I wonder if the divorce preceedings will be made public or they get it closed. I read Kate is trying to keep it sealed. I bet the TLC attorneys will have something to do with fighting that. WHAT can their argument be? They don't want their dirty laundry aired? I mean WHAT can they say?

Momof2 said...

I seriously wonder how successful TLC thinks Kate is going to be...this last episode was viewed as shameful and horrible in the main stream media and was mocked by late night TV. The world does not love Katie Irene.

And So It Was said...

Thanks for the recap. I watched a snippet online and wasn't aware, until now, that people can cry from their chins.

As for TLC putting the show on hiatus - I wonder what the ratings for last night's show were and how much hate mail they're sorting through. I do not see Kate putting her children first and wanting a break for them. I can imagine that she's asking if she'll still get paid ("will you at least get someone to pay for me to take a break from this? oh woe is me. This is stressing me out")and crying about that. Just cancel the show already.

I really wish the kids didn't (and will not have to, soon) live in a studio/zoo. Divorce happens, but the kids should be able to deal with it out of the public eye. They need emotional support from loved ones, not to be used for ratings or money or more freebies. I can see it now... "look what someone gave me for you. People just feel so bad for ME. Now, aren't I just the bestest mommy ever?"

Kelly said...

I've been sitting here all day, wondering about Jon's statement that perhaps someone will offer him a job. I ponder at the thought of just exactly what Jon is qualified to do.

1. Wait Tables
2. Bus Tables
3. Judge a Hawaiian Tropic bathing suit contest
4. Home Depot key making dept.
5. Wash Windows
6. Lot boy at a Honda Dealership
7. Picking up highway debris
8. Spot a Pot delivery boy.

One of these two nitwits is going to get a spinoff show and that's probably why Jon is moving to New York. Jon's is going to star in the next season episode of "Who Wants to Marry a Millionare" while Kate stars in the new season of "Bridezillas"

Sami said...

Actually it was Kate that filed. Because "Jon's actions" forced her to.

Honestly she blames everyone but herself for any of her martial problems. At least Jon admitted he was at fault for being so passive-aggressive. As far as I have seen or read him say Jon has not pointed fingers at Kate. Kate, on the other hand, continues to point fingers at him every chance he gets.

Then she wonders why she is having marital problems.

Honestly I felt sorry for her crying about having to go it alone, but after I read that statement of hers I quit feeling bad for her.

Terry K. said...

I wish I could agree with Jenny Brewer that it's only fair that the kids get to spend time in their house because they paid for it. In fact,though I agree they paid for it, I don't think it's "fair" or even "prudent" for them to stay in the house that they paid for--

I think it's continuing to subject them to a life under scrutiny until they pull out all of the special effects lighting, etc. It's time they make that house a home, and it's time that TLC not only declares a hiatus, but a complete cancellation of the show!

saratogachris said...

I predict this... once the children are assigned a law guardian to protect their best interests in the divorce, there will be no more filming. I can't imagine any attorney representing them would think it prudent to film young children as their world is turned upsidedown. Any lawyers out there with a more educated opinion than mine? I'm not a lawyer, just a mom, so any information would be enlightening!

Barb said...

Barkingdog said...

Lost in translations: Several times, at least three, Kate refers to "not" wanting to be alone. Hmmmm. Setting up on the announcement of a new leading man?

Could Jon's anger be the result of "already" being "replaced"? Angry and not talking to Kate = injured party.


I would think most women in a divorce would say being alone (especially raising kids on their own) is one of their biggest fears.

sgr said...

Maybe she said "the show must go on" because they're under contract.

Diana said...

I am one of those speaking events that Jon and Kate cancelled last year. After watching their relationship come apart as it has, all I can say is thank goodness that they cancelled on us. Things do happen for a reason and looking at this now, we would not have wanted to be connected with such a disaster.

When I was communicating with Kate, she seemed very normal and easy to work with. It's amazing what some fame and fortune will do to a person.

blackisthenewblack said...

I am at work and had to stifle my laughter which was next to impossible after reading Marinka's recap!! Hysterical! And to the others who know "agreeance" is NOT A WORD, thank you!!

wendyzr said...

This is what a poster said under the article by the LA Times about TLC halting production for awhile and next airing will be Aug 1.



"I love when Jon and Kate each say 'I'm doing it (the show) for the kids"...Replace "the kids" with "the money" for an accurate quote. We do everything for "the Money". Pathetic couple of losers."

Well said

dyf said...

Honestly, I thought Kate was right about wanting the houses where they could be watched while other kids are playing elsewhere. All of those kids aren't going to agree to play in the same place at once. And just because there are 6 of them, it doesn't make them 30, or okay to let them wander off into the woods. A kid could get hurt, and would 5 year olds really know what to do? No.

I know this is all about picking apart Kate's every move, but I'm sure if my mother suggested putting playhouses for her children in an area that made it easier for her to keep an eye on them as well as other children playing nearby, it would be considered logical thinking.

JustMe said...

I've read a lot of posts and it sounds like, sadly, the announcement went much as I expected---Kate playing the victim and blaming Jon, Jon making stupid comments, and they are NOT stopping the show. Part of me wishes Jon would have spoken up for himself, but my better part is glad that he apparently didn't try to defend himself by hurling accusations at Kate. And, really, a lot of what he's done is pretty indefensible.

No matter what they said or did, it couldn't possibly have satisfied most of us. So much damage has been done already. It does appear that, whether by design or not, Jon has managed to disrupt TLC's filming enough to achieve his wish to end or at least decrease his participation in the show. I wish Kate would have listened to him last season when he said he wanted to be done, then the kids would be free of any obligation to TLC, as well. There's something distasteful in a father fighting so hard to get away from an unhealthy situation (the filming of a reality show AND a control-freak wife and mother), and then happily walking away and leaving his children to cope with it all.

I did read elsewhere that the show is on hiatus. I was happy, for just a moment, until I realized it was for only about a month---until August. It appears that the reason for the hiatus is NOT the welfare of the children but the fact that they don't have enough filmed that they can use for upcoming shows. So it doesn't sound like it will really be a hiatus for the kids--only a hiatus for televising episodes. The kids will no doubt resume taping soon in order to put together the shows that will start airing in August. How sad that they will have to go back to work, as they are trying to cope with their parents' separation and looming divorce.

I'm glad I'm not watching anymore, because I suspect Kate's comments will be full of observations about how she has to do EVERYTHING herself and what a martyr she is (sort of like the comments she's always made throughout the show in the past, even when it was clear that Jon was doing more than his share of the grunt work and even when she reportedly had many unseen hands helping as well).

Finally, I read about the decision that the kids will stay in the house and Jon & Kate will alternate time staying there with them. I can't help wondering if they decided to do it this way to deflect some of the criticism of their luxurious lifestyles, paid for by their kids. Regardless, I like the idea. Although this is an unusual arrangement, I have often commented that the PARENTS are the ones who should have to shuttle back and forth to be with their kids, rather than the other way around. By remaining in the same house, kids do have a bit more stability. It enables them to stay in the same school, keep the same friends, etc. (Although I realize that there don't seem to be any friends to keep for these poor, isolated children.) Also, if either or both of the parents remarry and they end up with step- or half-siblings, the visiting children can feel more like guests in the home of the parent they are visiting than truly at home. This arrangement at least puts some of the inconvenience back on the parents rather than the children and the children have a clear sense of HOME.

One last question---could someone explain the joke about the black-haired lady walking with Alexis?

pamommy said...

Does anyone know what last nights ratings were? Just curious.

MollyP said...

Red said:

I think at the end of last season Jon made it very clear that he did NOT want to continue the show. I think that was the deal breaker.
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I'm not sure on that one..not continuing the show would mean giving up the big bucks and I really don’t think that is what Jon had in mind. Knowing what we know now, I think him saying he wanted off the show was just the setup for why we would not be seeing him as much in season 6. They were separated, but their pretend life on tv was way, way too lucrative to just walk away. So a deal was struck between them to continue the farce. She would cover for him, and he would only be required to be on the show occasionally, maybe doing separate outings, all explained away by Kate. Thus the contract freeing him to date and he still gets paid, hush money if you will. He covers for her by pretending they are still together and she continues the mommy of the year schtick with tv appearances, church speaking engagements, book signings and the show, raking in the cash. We would hear “Jon decided to take the kids camping and that is just too icky so I decided to stay home” or “Jon decided to take a break from filming this week, remember we warned you that he’s not so into being on tv anymore”. We were supposed to be none the wiser that the real reason they were hardly filmed together was that they were separated. Season 6 and beyond would progress and in time Kate would have the show to herself or have moved onto a cooking show or whatever, Jon would have been phased out of the show and ta da, it is a win-win situation. Kate gets to be a star, Jon gets a few more years of income, and some of his privacy back. Eventually, in a few years, once they had collected enough memories for the children, I mean cash for the parents, they would maybe come clean and separate. Then it all went wrong. The truth was discovered, the covers were blown and quickly the plan to superstardom and supereasystreet went sour. I don’t believe for a minute that Jon really wanted the show to stop, he just wanted to stop being on it; the kids, well, they can continue the family business without him. After all, they know their job pretty well by now, they have what, 5 years experience on their resumes? The children’s well-being was not even on the radar as the Crooked Spouses plotted to milk the J&K+8 facade for all it was worth. Kate was the mastermind, but Jon was, and still is, a willing participant in parading these kids in front of the world.

Kaitlin said...

The brunch scene was deff. filmed after mother's day. I live about 90 minutes Northeast of the Gosselins & on Mother's Day it was sunny & somewhat chilly but it didn't rain. Also, on Mother's Day, all the resturants were packed. Even with reservations, you had to wait. So, to see the resturant was totally empty on such a busy holiday doesn't add up.

...Amy... said...

ihatethisshow said...
yes, it DOES MATTER about the handicapped parking spot. it is ILLEGAL to park in a handicapped parking spot, 24/7--regardless if the entire parking lot is empty. PERIOD. these people are so incredibly stupid


Thank-you! Can KON be given a ticket retroactive? There's clearly video evidence that shows an illegal action taking place...

wendyzr said...

wendyzr said...

This is what a poster said under the article by the LA Times about TLC halting production for awhile and next airing will be Aug 1.



"I love when Jon and Kate each say 'I'm doing it (the show) for the kids"...Replace "the kids" with "the money" for an accurate quote. We do everything for "the Money". Pathetic couple of losers."

Well said
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Oh I have a funny exercise! You know how when you get a fortune cookie you read and always add on "in bed" at the end of it? Well it is done often and can be quite funny.

Anyway every time we hear one of them say "we do this or that or go to the ends of the earth for "the kids", replace the kids with "the money" I think it will always fit!

Laura said...

The episode made me so very sad. Divorce is so hard for kids as it is, I can't imagine how hard and confusing it will be for the Gosselin kids. The saddest part of it was when Kate said "the show must go on" No, Kate, the show must be cancelled so you and your children can heal. I had to laugh at Jon and his skull tee and earrings. Grow up buddy.

This horrible show is a prime example of how the pursue of money can ruin your life and distort everything you once held dear.

Sad. Sad. Sad.

bcsurvivor2001 said...

BarbMae said...
WooHoo!!! TLC HAS ANNOUNCED THAT JON & KATE PLUS 8 HAS BEEN PUT ON HIATUS UNTIL AUGUST AND NO NEW EPISODES WILL BE FILMED....(hopefully ever again).....The show is done, done, done. TLC made the decision not Jon and Kate like that is going to make TLC smell like a rose.... they probably were going to lose some big time advertisers so they pulled it. TLC you still stink like a skunk and in IMO it is going to take a long time for you to not stink for awhile after exploitation you are doing with your "reality family shows"... Finally the kids can enjoy their summer and get use to joint custody with their parents.

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I think we need to be careful on what we are quoting/staying/thinking about this hiatus. According to the Insider - TLC was quoted as saying:

".....The program will not return until August 3. "During this time the family will take some time off to regroup and then a modified schedule will be in place to support the family's transition," the statement reads."

Now - I guess it can be interpreted several ways - but I don't see where it is saying no more filming.....I'm seeing it saying there won't be any new episodes on TV until August 3. I think there is a big difference.

I personally (and only speaking for myself) - think TLC is getting a bunch of flack from last night. They also know they need to cool down Joe Public a bit so they can continue their money-maker. So maybe if they tell us they are taking a break - maybe the infamous p-people will tire of everything and they can get back to their normally scheduled filming.

emmasmommy said...

I watched only the part in which she goes on again "I will not lay down and die" something to that effect. So I ask..Why does she not have that same fighting attitude towards salvaging her marriage.
She wants to give out this strong independant image..so why not TRY.

She commented about Jon not wanting to talk to her. Wonder why Kate. He must be sick of you and when a man can't stand their ex is usually b/c she did the unimaginable. HE probably caught her w/ another man,Steve or whomever.

This show is sooooo 2008. BORING

InkstainedPsyche said...

mom-of-one said...
did anyone else find it foreboding how the one twin chose a creepy haunted house design for her crooked house?

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No, actually, I turned to my 19-year-old son and said, hey, maybe she's starting to rebel and will turn into a Goth chick.

I don't really think it's a foreboding of anything. My son counts "Nightmare before Christmas" as one of his favorite movies. But he isn't a Goth, doesn't wear black or have a gloom-and-doom attitude.

Sometimes things don't mean anything.

Khate said...

What is this woman doing???? Someone put a fork in Kate and tell her she's done! Does "jump the shark" ring a bell! This has to be the most melodramatic drivel ever done for one hour of television! It is a far cry from the initial premise of a chronicle of a family struggling along in life when gifted with 8 kids in 3 years! That's the gift - not the manufactured freebies that every episode has now become. The evolution of the destruction of the family unit is now history.

It is disheartening because this drama is real life, not fantasy, and 8 innocents will probably be victims of the fallout in their later lives. My heart bleeds for those children. When you have misfits for parents, what hope is there for the kids??? One is a manchild and the other is a narcissistic social climber too preoccupied with her money making schemes to realize the damage being done to her children. At least the manchild seems to be a concerned parent rather than acting the part! Too bad he's only mentally 16! The best thing to happen to the kids would be for the show to be cancelled. Maybe if TLC gets flooded with negative feedback, they may rethink the show. Who will watch? I sure won't. Excuse me while I get my bucket as I am still recuperating from that nonsense called a reality show!

InkstainedPsyche said...

JustMe said...

One last question---could someone explain the joke about the black-haired lady walking with Alexis?

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It's referring to Kate, back before she thought it was a good idea to go blonde...and before the hideous haircut. Her natural hair color is much darker.

Nokomis said...

Obviously they both lie. She does it intentionaly and he does as he is told and badly.She knows why he is angry. He put in all those years trusting "mommy dearest" knew best, taking the erasure of his peronality...only to be tossed aside when she remade her whole outer body so she could come up to Steve's ideal woman. Little does she know Steve was probably there to guard her from hitting kids and melting down and this is only a job for him where he had more fun than usual. When she expects marriage, because she is still very mid-western in keeping up appearances of society, he will RUN and can do so as the show is falling apart anyway. Do you really think at his age he wants 8 "acting out" kids and a bitchy wife?? Especially one who is a spendthrift and shortly will be cut off on funds. Add to that she is most likely awful in the boudoir ( DO this no, do that, shower immediatly, and so on)
She wanted this deadline so she could openly flaunt him as her new catch and even marry him.
This is clear from the childrens play. They slam the doors in each others faces and scream get out! (courtesy of mom and dad)
Then they were playing "dating" and a little tuplet (Alexis, I think) takes Aadens hand and says Im your girlfriend and we're gonna get married. "And you're my boy/" and the cutting room clips "friend"off of this sentance.(courtesy of mom and steve) In the birthday party scene the little ones are much more romancing than usual, hugging and kissing all over,probably because they have seen this unusal behavior recently by a fired up mom and steve.
But the children so far are guiless. In watching their play, it shows. Pray for the kids. Hope John gets an attorney.

Sad4TheKids said...

I hope with 20+ acres, both Jon and Kate will build homes on the property so that they both can see the kids as much as they want. I know the Duchess and Duke of York (Fergie and Andrew) lived in the same home, even though divorced, and both of their daughters have talked about what a great thing that was... and a great relationship their parents have.

fthompson333 said...

Jon and Kate both state over and over again they will do anything for there children. Maybe they should take those words to heart and at least try to work on saving their marriage.

quincy mackenzie said...

I promised myself I wouldn't watch the show last night. I caved. Just in time to see Kate dab at her chin.

Ummm, did anyone get the urge to want to pull her shirt up to an appropriate level? I mean, was she mourning her marriage... or looking for attention.

Duh.

These poor children are probably now going to be pawns in an ugly divorce.

This has the potential to be a Disney movie gone awry...

... The poor judge will have to decide who is more fit to parent these children: Peter Pan or Cruella DeVille.

My heart aches for these eight - do they stand a chance of ever being normal human beings?

Arieslikekate said...

Poor jon - that's how he is handling this - driving his tractor all over Kate's property.

jonandkatewho? said...

TLC is most likely trying to "save face" by taking a "hiatus" rather than cancelling this wreck of a show that somebody at that network can't seem to live without. It boggles my mind, it really does...I would think those people would be totally sick to death of Kate and having to deal with her and the destruction she leaves in her wake, which they often have to clean up I would bet.

This is actually a disgusting thing because even though it might mean a short break for those kids, if things don't totally run amok they will continue with the show.

I've totally become ashamed that they have shows I like to watch, such as WNTW and SYTDD, along with the Saturday morning "comfort" tv I like, Property Ladder. I would miss those shows if I decide to boycott TLC altogether and it's such a shame because they DO have and have had shows which are far better quality than Jon and Kate plus 8. That has never been very entertaining in my opinion. I can't believe that they would actually keep backing this crazy woman when they are probably receiving a firestorm of letters telling them people just won't watch them anymore. It is such a mystery to me why they cling to this show after what's happened. Money is a big factor, I know that...but as I have said, it isn't like it's their only show, and it's become almost unbearable to watch.

They shouldn't go anywhere near those children with cameras when they are going through such a difficult time in their little lives. It's just dead wrong.

I'm sorry to have gone totally off topic here. Thanks for the great recap!

Arieslikekate said...

I can't believe they got FOUR free playhouses...

jonandkatewho? said...

I forgot something in the earlier post, a thought I had.

Do any of you think that maybe Jon is going to go to work for the guys at the chopper place?

Mrs. "Smith" said...

Marinka said:
Kate tells us that she loves her kids and that they matter to her, and that she will survive. Unfortunately, she doesn't break into the Gloria Gaynor number.

I was wondering if Kate was going to do that myself. LOL

Pilgrim Soul said...

Peter Pan or Cruella de Ville - pure genius!!! Love it!!! Spot on!!!

JON is FREE! said...

Jon is an interesting study - it has been fascinating to watch this transformation! He is like a bird let out of a cage! No wonder he is going crazy - it's his first taste of freedom in 10 years! That man has been belittled, denigrated, humiliated, slapped, punched, screamed at and embarassed by that shrew! I remember the early episodes where he worked full time, bathed the kids, made and delivered coffee to Queen Kate in bed so that she could have a pleasant awakening prior to dealing with the stresses of the day! It appeared that he took all of her browbeating in stride. Little did we know that the cork was about to pop! He's just manifesting 10 years of pent up anger - no wonder he wants no part of her and refuses to discuss anything - from his perspective, don't think there's much to discuss.

blueskies said...

I agree with the poster who mentioned how hard this was to watch, like we were witnessing something we shouldn't have been privy to. At one point it just felt plain uncomfortable.

I'm very disappointed. I'm not surprised they are divorcing, but to hear Jon say they will continue the show, but just seperatly, was completely dis-heartning. I was waiting and hoping he was going to say he was not going to participate in the show anymore and certainly not film his time with the kids and would at least TRY to keep them out of the spotlight to the best of HIS ability.

To hear him say they'll just continue on, just shows what both of them are all about. Money, money and more money.

I was depressed after seeing that last night. I won't be watching again. The slow destruction of a family through greed is not entertainment, its depressing, and I don't watch TV to become depressed.

Barb said...

jonandkatewho? said...

I forgot something in the earlier post, a thought I had.

Do any of you think that maybe Jon is going to go to work for the guys at the chopper place?


I wondered this after he threw out there, "maybe I'll get a job offer." Hmmm...maybe one in NY where you've been looking at apartments? Like with OCC??

ForeverHopeful said...

Hi Sad For the Kids!

Great idea about them building another house on their property so Jon/Kate can live there when the other one is in charge at the big house!

Friends of our split, and Dad moved next door. It was an awesome arrangement and worked really well.

carolinanana said...

Unfortunately, I watched the program last night, wish I hadn't. I'm so done listening to these two spought off such nonsense. Reminds me of a cartoon I saw recently with the caption "wipe your mouth, there's still some bulls**t on your lips." Best J&K description I could ever think of.

LittleMiracle said...

Techymum said...

Guess the Crooked Playhouse company just invested about the worst $10k plus ever....
Checked their website the other day, and it was full of very negative feedback.
Today? Website updated - all reference to OCC and JK+8 removed.
The whole Crooked Playhouse thing made me wonder how these transactions come about. Does a company approach TLC? Does TLC contact a company? I'd sure like to hear....
But in the end, we can see THIS is how we can save the kids. Keep on top of the advertisers, plain and simple.

6/22/2009 11:05 PM
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Please no bashing me - but I am GLAD they got the crooked houses, even if they were yet another freebie. Goodness knows that Kon could well afford to BUY them, but when was the last time they spent their OWN money on anything "for the kids"???? The children genuinely loved those houses. Maybe they can escape Kate's house (hers, all hers, you know) and seek solace, let their imaginations take them to a better place (all the free trips didn't make them this happy), and have a little fun in life. For that alone, I THANK the Crooked House people - maybe they understood how badly the kids really needed it. Maybe it was just an advertising ploy. Either way, the KIDS win this time around.

Surprisingly Saddened said...

This was a painful show to watch. The poor kids. I think the downfall came when Kate started cutting out family members and friends. The Gosselins used to have an enviable support group with Jodi and Kevin and Beth and Bob. Even Nana Janet and Joan were always there when they needed them. If Kate drove these people away and the production team too, then she has a lot to answer for. I think she should stop and think about why jon might have so muuch anger towards her. If you watch the show, it is pretty easy to see.

antique lady said...

Will someone please explain to me the difference between the Gosselin plantation and Quintland?

Lifesaver said...

just wondering said...
Kate is not fond of the idea, but she knows that it's necessary. And she's in agreeance.

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Yep.. My teeth actually began to hurt when I heard "agreeance."
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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/agreeance
"considered obsolete and a bastardization of 'agreement'"

And she's so condescending to Jon about his grammar & the way he talks.

SusanT said...

mom-of-one said: did anyone else find it foreboding how the one twin chose a creepy haunted house design for her crooked house?

And here is why Jon & Kate should stop filming their kids. Everything these kids do is questioned and analyzed, even if it's something perfectly normal. Cara picking a haunted house design is something that will always follow her - even into adulthood.

I think it's sad.

Amanda said...

This is the greatest recap ever!!! I especially love the part where you said that some black haired lady was helping Alexis walk.....it's crazy how much she has changed since then. Good job Marinka!

blueskies said...

Ummm, did anyone get the urge to want to pull her shirt up to an appropriate level? I mean, was she mourning her marriage... or looking for attention.

Yes, me to. The shirt thing was awful. I was also disgusted by her big dirty bare feet.

At least Jon kept his shoes on.

Joyhawk said...

OOOPS!! My bad! The ratings numbers I got and passsed on were for the Phoenix market only. So sorry for the confusion!

earlpits said...

BucksCoGirl said...

What is driving me crazy is that all these people I know who watched last night are now sympathizing with Kate. I just want to grab them all by their shirt collars and scream "You don't know the half of it! She's acting!"


Oh, I think Kate was doing one of her best manipulating acts last night. Notice she takes none of the responsibility. What about all the business of her being alone with Steve Neild all the time, especially right under her children's nose--like in San Diego with Mady and NC with all the kids? What about the way Kate has treated Jon like a dog for years and her kids like props? Did everyone forget that Kate had been flashing her boobs/crotch and losing her temper quite easily on Leah? What about Kate's constant attention seeking everyday?
People forget that Kate has narcissist written all over her and that she is a master manipulator. She was doing what Kate has done all her life---- manipulating to get what she wants, instead of asking for what she needs.

Anonymous said...

Even though I am just a young teenager who has been watching the show since it's early days and managed to meet Kate at a book signing, I wish I could just have a one-on-one talk with her to give her ADVICE! I will gladly take the kids myself.

Anonymous said...

Lets get real here............If Kate really loved John at all she wouldn't have henpecked,belittled,emasculated and generally disrespected him. Johns failure was not demanding that she stop. I would have left her long ago. Kate is way too self absorbed.

4girlsoneboy said...

I just looked up the Green Hills Inn and found that lunch is served from Tuesday-Friday, no mention of any Sunday brunch so they opened just for the Gs. It is a wonderful place with a very french menu - nothing about organic. You can check their menu on line.

4girlsoneboy said...

Lifesaver said...
just wondering said...
Kate is not fond of the idea, but she knows that it's necessary. And she's in agreeance.

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and I am in agreeance that no one but me seemed to notice the other one - upsetness. I sure hope Kate uses spellcheck for the new cookbook.

CountMeOut said...

A lot of people are commenting that J&K should have gone to counseling, but I doubt that would have helped. I really doubt that Kate could change what is the very essence of her personality, and the way she relates to people. She has to have complete control, and now that Jon is not willing to let her control him, they would never survive as a couple.

I think the changes in Jon are what led to the split, because really, Kate hasn't changed a bit - she has always treated him the same way. I am sure that she is genuinely surprised to some degree. After all, it's always been this way - why all of a sudden is it a problem? I am also sure that she doesn't understand why he won't talk to her. She seems to be totally devoid of any self-awareness. She does not see herself in the same light everyone else does, or else she would never have continued to allow filming of her "Mommie Dearest" antics.

I hate to say it, but I think Jon is doing the right thing.

As far as the living arrangements - I can't imagine how else they could do it - Jon can't go out and get a house with room for all 8 kids to come visit him, that would be insane. And also, I've always felt they the parent with the apartment has a disadvantage in that the kids never feel at home there, it becomes "that other place" that sometimes makes them not want to visit the other parent.

Although, I guess he could take the old house off the market, and move back there! lol!

AuK said...

ManicNarcissism said...

Ok
, I posted my prediction this morning about how Kate was pissed Jon was going to stay on the show and that is why she filed for divorce.

Well, my speculation is TLC and Kate have decided to go on hiatus but Jon and Kate plus 8 will never be back. August 3rd we will see the new and improved KATE show. I think the kids will be on but will be not emphasized, just background like the Denise Richards show.

Anyone in a betting mood?


That's a great point. Since the season premiere (and even before that) the shows seem to be more about her/she is in the middle of the attention than about the kids anyway. Even from last year, when they were at Sea World, she kept having outbursts to get the cameras to focus on her - my husband noticed it first. It is kind of APPALLING that she has to be the center of attention like that. She would love to just have the show about her.

kerri said...

Jon is just the latest person to be pushed away by Kate! She has alienated herself from almost everyone now because of her behavior and yet she still fails to take responsibility for her actions. He hung in there much longer than most people would!

readerlady said...

Thanks for the recap Marinka. It must have been difficult to find snark-worthy material in such a sad situation, without seeming nasty and disrespectful, but you managed.

So - Kate doesn't understand why Jon is so angry with her. Uh - maybe something to do with being smacked, swatted and slapped; degraded and disrespected; yelled at across a crowded store; constantly humiliated and told you can't even breathe properly, etc. etc. etc. ad infinitem. Jon was 21 when he met Kate and 22 when they married. He was directionless, feckless, spoiled and irresponsible. Not unlike many other 22 year olds. Most of them manage to find themselves and grow into decent, responsible human beings by the end of their 20's. Jon was forced to grow, in the directions Kate pushed him, not necessarily in the way he would have on his own. He finally broke. Now he's trying to find his own direction, and there may be plenty of missteps on the way. I hope for his sake, but mostly for the sake of those vulnerable children, who clearly adore him, that he gets there quickly. I don't want to be an apologist for Jon. He's far from perfect and some of the responsibility for this mess is his. I don't agree with his planning to continue doing the show. I think that is a very selfish and shortsighted decision, but I also feel that, at this point in time, he doesn't see any other way. Maybe when he does get his feet under him and settles down, he'll change his mind and insist on pulling the plug.

As far as I can see, the only right thing about this whole sorry affair is their decision to leave the kids in the house and take turns parenting from there. At least the children will have some semblance of stability that way. And since Kate so vocally proclaims that she can't do it alone, it also makes sense for her to be there during the week, when the kids are in school, so she won't have the burden of being with them so much. At least Jon seems to want to spend time with the kids and enjoys them for themselves when he does. Of course he yells at them sometimes. How many parents don't? But have we ever seen him strike one in anger? Refuse to comfort one when they are upset? Even when he punishes them ( ala Hannah on the episode where he took care of the kids alone for the weekend and wouldn't allow her to have candy because she didn't eat all her dinner), he cuddles them. He's a good father, although there is definitely room for improvement.

Calgary7 said...

Team Jon said ..

I asked what the "big announcement" was.

My 5-year-old said "they are handicapped because they parked in a handicapped parking spot."

Mystery solved...


LOL

You have a very wise child. This couple are handicapped in so many ways.

Thanks for the laugh

Sad4Kids said...

Does anyone else think this is starting to remind them of The Truman Show with Jim Carrey?

I to watched the little Gosselins just as everyone initially fell in love with little Truman, but now I'm hoping they cut through the fake ocean sky and get out of there!

I can't believe it's healthy for children to be going through a family divorce with the cameras rolling.

lovemydogs said...

Kate said something about now having more empathy for others in this situation. I have never known Kate to show empathy to Jon, her kids, or anyone else. The day she understands what it's like to be a single mom - totally on your own, trying to feed three children (in her case 8), making minimum wage, praying for a child-support check, so exhausted at the end of the day that you doubt your sanity - that is the day I will be a super model!

wendyzr said...

Damn! 10.6 million viewers.

They are counting on the "closet viewers"

Please don't watch. VIEWERS are going to keep this show going! Nothing is going to change until we stop. TLC won't stop, Jon and Kate won't. WE can help these kids by not watching.

AeroSpice said...

Is it safe to bet the food that they had to share at the picnic was shared by the boys and not the precious girls?

Pilgrim Soul said...

Jon was just a pawn in Kate's diabolical plan to be the original Octomom. Men are objects to here. Interchangable as long as they serve her purpose and do her bidding. Love? What's love got to do with it? He's not blameless in this mess, but I think, on some level, Kate arrested his development by pressuring him into a situation where he was in over his head. If he was a stronger person, he wouldn't have buckled... But if he was a stronger person, Kate never would have tried to ensnare him. They were young. He was pliable. She was pretty. She got her sperm donor/slave and set her plans into motion...

Kristen said...

Isn't it ridiculous that all time with the children will be spent at the mcMansion? Will Jon let kate crash at his NYC bachelor pad during his time with the kids.
Will the new boyfriends and girlfriends be included in these family Christmas dinners they're planning on having.
Naive. Completely naive.

Flim Flam Flippy said...

You know, I almost have sympathy for Kate's position about keeping the show going to support the family, but FOURTY EPISODES? Give me a break. Make it four hour-long specials per year, and get TLC to pay $100,000 per episode. I think most families (even large families) could make ends meet with $400,000 per year.

Fourty episodes for what I've read is $75,000 per is just greed.

Jennie M said...

antique lady said...

Will someone please explain to me the difference between the Gosselin plantation and Quintland?


Not sure if this was rhetorical or not? Growing up in North Bay (Ontario), I have grown up with the Quints (who also share a birthday with my mom although they are older!). Visiting the Quints' home (it was moved into North Bay from its original location in Callendar - just outside of town) was a school field trip, etc.

Quintland was run by the Provincial (state) government. They ran "shows" on a regular basis after they obtained custody of the Quints.

Here's a better description from the following website:

"There were people everywhere, pouring out of cars and buses, and spending money - buying souvenir postcards, pamphlets about the birth, binoculars at inflated prices, British woollens and china, candy, pop, hot dogs, and, for a quarter, Oliva Dionne´s own autograph. [Oliva was the dad]

They came as early as six in the morning. By the time the first observation period began at 9:30, the queue could stretch back for half a mile or more. As the people moved forward they passed a long trough labelled STONES FRON THE QUINTUPLETS´PLAYGROUND. These were the famous 'fertility stones', gathered each morning from the shores of Lake Nipissing in the trucks of the Ontario highways department and widely believed to be a boon to barren women. Everybody took one; like the view of the Quints, they were free.

The visitors were allowed to enter the gallery in groups of one hundred, peeling off in two directions, some moving counterclockwise and some in the opposite direction. No one was allowed to bring a camera. Only one man could take pictures; Fred Davis from the Toronto Star. Oliva Dionne himself could not even photograph his own children, since only Mr Davis had the rights.

The playground was surrounded on three sides by a U-shaped roofed passageway with windows facing inward and fitted with a silvery screen of wire mesh so closely woven that a pin could not be thrust through the opening. From this dark tunnel the five toddlers could be seen, playing on swings and tricycles or splashing in their shallow pool, apparently oblivious of the unseen thousands shuffling silently past them."

http://www.quintland.com/start.html

Sound vaguely familiar?

All in Agreeance said...

Definition of Agreeance
as per Urban Dictionary

1. agreeance
What stupid people say instead of agreement
I am in "agreeance' that KMart is NOT pronounced KMarK.
agreement agree ghetto agreeing agreance

2. agreeance
The state of agreement; when two or more people posess the same opinions or ideas

I am in agreeance with the fact that you idiots are not as well read as you think you are. If you spent more time reading and less time in front of the xbox perhaps you'd be in agreeance too.
agreement concomitant cooperative ike-minded unanimous

3. agreeance
Here in New Zealand we use the word agreeance...along with many other words deemed as being 'out of date' these days....as far as I'm concerned...if I can use it and everyone knows what I'm talking about...and I can do a search on google...and it doesn't come up saying 'did you mean agreement?' and it was first used as far back as 1540..then its definately a word.
so are we all in agreeance then that we have an agreement?

KB said...

what is this crap I am now seeing today, Kate's saying Jon's actions over the weekend left her no choice?! What BS! I know everyone here knows that already, but i just feel so frustrated with her and her games! Honey, you were planning that divorce for awhile and all you know how to do is play the victim! What'd Jon do tell you to be quiet and leave him alone?!

Ugh!!!

Kate, you are such an evil witch!If you really loved your kids you wouldn't say things about their father publicly that one day you know they will hear. I don't care what the situation is with anyone, it disgusts when parents say things about one another and do it in a way that the kid hears it or finds out whether directly or indirectly. Children love their parents unconditionally, how dare the other parent taint anything because of their anger towards that person. Whether he did something wrong or not, her public statement is accusatory and will one day come back to these children, which is just not fair or appropriate.

Ugh! So frustrated, need to go find a punching bag - the actual piece of athletic equipment - not other people as Kate chooses to do.

KB said...

So excited about the show going on hiatus, I hope it becomes permanent!

Niya said...

It was just announced on HLN that Kate said in the divorce paper work that her and Jon have been living separate lives for over two years now.

So the following have been a big fat lie.

1. Past 3-4 years of the show = LIE

2. The faux wedding vows = LIE

3. Multiple Blessings = LIE

4. The 30th birthday trip = LIE

And EVERYONE associated with this show KNEW THIS.

They are all LIARS.

Danielle said...

CNN Headline News just reported that Kate put in her divorce papers that they have been living seperate lives for TWO YEARS!!

Commentators said she may be trying to hold onto her "earnings" from books, etc.

Shoshanna said...

BostonHerald.com - In Kate's divorce papers, she claims that she and Jon have been living "separate and apart" for two years!

What a sick joke they've played on their viewers
and on themselves.

Shoshanna said...

Just read on BostonHerald.com that, in Kate's divorce
papers, she said that she and Jon have been living
"separate and apart" for TWO YEARS!

What a sick bunch these people are.

Jill said...

Is it just me or did Jon sound like a 14 year old boy??? It was all about him. Who is going to offer him a job? Is he looking for one?

I didn't hear anyone say anything about counseling. They used to be involved in a church. Why didn't they contact their pastor for help?

YeahForJon said...

Did anyone notice when K8 was talking about how some fans who have divorced will be able to relate to her going through the same thing? It just screams new book topic to me. "Kate and Eight without Jon: Surviving Divorce and Reality TV". And I wouldn't be surprised if TLC cancels the show that she will blame the network for all the problems with the kids.

Congrats on getting away from her Jon. Now step up and do what's best for your kids. You might have missed out on some of your wild oates days, but once you became a father you became responsible for another life. It's about them now, Jon, not you.

Trish said...

To Jon and Kate,

STOP THE PITY PARTY.

If you lie down and make a baby, then you have to stand up and be a parent.

ella said...

About living apart for two years - from tmz.com:

There's a report floating out there that Kate Gosselin has been separated from Jon for two years. That's not true, and we have the lowdown.

We now know what Kate checked on the divorce papers, which are confidential. There are two grounds for a no fault divorce in Pennsylvania -- the first is waiting 90 days after the papers have been served. Then, if both Jon and Kate agree the marriage is "irretrievably broken" ... the divorce can proceed.

And there's a second option -- that they have lived separate and apart for 2 years. But that doesn't mean they have been separated for that long. It means she must wait 2 years from the moment she considered the marriage kaput and began living separately (if only in different bedrooms). We're told the real separation between Jon and Kate is very recent and Kate checked the box just to get the clock ticking.

We found out Kate checked both boxes, and here's why. Jon may not agree that the marriage is irretrievably broken. If that's the case she has to wait the two years. So by checking both boxes, Kate is hedging her bets.

Ultimately, she would have to prove to the judge when she considered herself separate from Jon.

liarsgotohell said...

Just read on BostonHerald.com that, in Kate's divorce
papers, she said that she and Jon have been living
"separate and apart" for TWO YEARS!

What a sick bunch these people are.

6/23/2009 3:07 PM

Just adds more proof to the already obvious that J & K in fact EXPLOITED THEIR CHILDREN for personal and monetary gain.

Catherine said...

I am so glad that their lies are being exposed, just read it in an Associated Press article.

I hope they will be seen as the money-hungry liars that they are. What a total fraud this show is and they are.

Will their fans still think they are so wonderful? If they do they are more delusional than I thought.

ratherbkayaking said...

Unfortunately, American loves a train wreck. Ratings for last night's show was over 10 million viewers.

http://www.multichannel.com/article/295555-_Jon_Kate_Ratings_Great.php

TLC - I'm divorcing you (or dissolution or whatever the term). I didn't watch JKP8 last night, but the whole advertising this train wreck the way you did is snake belly low, and I will not watch ANY of your shows.

Questioning Kate said...

Can't Kate be held in Contempt of Court if she lies about the two year seperation?

Catherine said...

It doesn't make sense that a person would check a box that they have lived separate for two years if they haven't. I'm sure they will have some excuse as to why it isn't what it is. They are frauds.

Pilgrim Soul said...

How have they been living apart for the past two years? Has there been another home that no one knows about? Is that what the Hawaii trip was about? Throwing suspicious onlookers off the scent? Seriously, how can they have been living apart? Is it legal to be living apart in one house? I.e. separate bedrooms?

baska said...

I can see an easy way to milk this along for a while, and it's very simple. The six younger children (absolutely hate and despise the word tups - it makes me think they should come in pastel colors with a matching lid and be dishwasher safe, but anyway) are about two weeks older than my older grandson. Kate would be well within bounds to hold them out of school for a year, if the behavior I've seen described is any indication, unless they behave differently in preschool than they do at home. And nobody would think twice if she did anyway. She'd just be able to plead the fact that they would be young for kindergarten.

I agree with the poster who thinks Jon should have primary custody of the boys. They wouldn't have a chance in a million with that emasculating witch of a mother.

jen said...

Damn! They are replaying this episode at 8!

I guess over 10 million viewers yesterday weren't enough.

Laurie from Allentown said...

Jon...what a jerk! Grow up already. Don't worry, in no time at all the "paparazzi" will have lost interest in you. Maybe next summer you can be a contestant on "I'm a celebrity get me outta here."

Kate...really, my 8-year-old is a better actress, with the fake tears. I smell another book coming..one about how she is "surviving" after the divorce.

Poor kids. I guess we can all look forward to 10 "tell-all" books when they grow up. How sad.

eatfoodnot2muchmostlyplants said...

something i noticed and am not sure anyone has touched upon. Cary and Mady on the few seconds they were on seemed kind of odd. Like they were..."on" or acting or something. I thought we'd have to wait 5 or so years to see the damage....but i can see it now. something was so odd about their behavior. agree?

ashleybecker22 said...

okay I know this is really secondary to the rest of the show, but why did the sextuplets who are 5 YEARS old, need to wear bibs in the resturant?!!!

My god, if she was as careful with her marriage as she is with their clothes they might not be divorcing!

anotherthing... said...

CherryCheeseKATE said...
[[Kate's voice on camera]]
"Yes-s-ss {{sniffle}} I am SO devastated over the {{Kate dabs at eyes with kleenex}}break up over my marriage. {{wring of hands}} Jon and I just grew apart, I blame the media for pushing our marriage over the edge {{distraught look}}. EVERYTHING I did, I did for MY children {{emphasis on "MY"}}. I am heartbroken, sad beyond belief {{another dab at eyes and blowing nose}}. I cried and cried, my - it HAD to be atleast 10 or 15 minutes, over this whole mess. I will go on, {{shifting position on couch}} FOR MY KIDS..I HAVE TO GO ON!" {{blowing nose and looking soulfully into camera}}

----DIRECTOR YELLS "CUT"!----(cameras STOP rolling)

[[Kate's voice to crew]]
"OKAYYYYYYYY--HHHHHHHH...someone powder my nose! Is it me, or did the lighting seem all wrong!? C'mon, I need a Starbucks coffee - and I need it NOW!! Listen, {{turning to wardrobe assistant}} I think I needed a blouse that showed more of my cleavage. I didn't pay no chump change for these babies {{adjusts silicone *girls*}} I want them to SHOW UP on camera!! Hey, {{calling to the hair stylist}} My spikes are wilting, where's that cement hair spray--I need a spritz!!!! LET'S GO PEOPLE ~ TIME IS MONEY!!!!!"
_______________

LOVE IT.

probably all too accurate...

Jessica Eiden Smedley said...

"water is wet"

LMAO!!!!!

Great recap.

CountMeOut said...

something i noticed and am not sure anyone has touched upon. Cary and Mady on the few seconds they were on seemed kind of odd. Like they were..."on" or acting or something. I thought we'd have to wait 5 or so years to see the damage....but i can see it now. something was so odd about their behavior. agree?
__________________________________________________

Yes, I agree. I thought they were totally over the top, like they were on stage. I expected them to start singing "It's a hard knock life for us!"

I know a lot of 8-9 year old girls, and some of them do behave in that LOOK AT ME way, but it seemed very different from the girls as we've seen them up til now.

mom_of_2_boys said...

4girlsoneboy said...
I just looked up the Green Hills Inn and found that lunch is served from Tuesday-Friday, no mention of any Sunday brunch so they opened just for the Gs. It is a wonderful place with a very french menu - nothing about organic. You can check their menu on line.
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I figured the "organic" thing was just another lie! Seriously, if a restaurant happens to be "organic" would they really have the word "organic" before every menu item? LOL
That's like going to an Italian restaurant and ordering from a menu that says "Italian Spaghetti", "Italian rigatoni"...etc... you get the picture! LOL

ManicNarcissism said...

Mady and cara did act odd mainly cara. My daughter is 2 weeks younger and I showed her that 5 minutes (when she heard they were divorcing she wouldn't watch show - said she was done and couldn't believe they weren't even going to try) oh if I was just as strong as my daughter! Anyway she just watched and then said what was that? It was weird and I feel for them. But acting out is normal when parents are splitting can you imagine being on TV?

When they went brunch they had bags with them, as Kate is leaving the bag says trader joes. They carry a lot of organic items. I have a feeling she brought her own ingredients. Who brings big bags to a restaurant?

Also it wasn't mothers day. No mention of it with kids. No mom I love you so much.

Are you telling me that the word agreeance is used in new Zealand? Huh, she picks up a lot from old Stevie!

Amigo22 said...

Someone said a few days ago that Kate threw out everything her kids made. EVERYTHING?! So much for "making memories" if you're just going to throw everything away that your kids make!

My parents did the same thing with almost all of my childhood artwork and the stories I wrote. It didn't occur to them that later in life (I'm now almost 25) that I would want to look back on them - and that many of them I actually remember writing about one thing or drawing a picture of another.

So what if Kate has eight kids, they have a HUGE house with PLENTY of storage space, so there is NO EXCUSE for her not to keep the things they make!

Tomato Tartlet said...

Oh my....Kate, Kate, Kate when will you realize that nobody is drinking your Kool-Aid? You put your family into this mess, and refused Jon's pleas to discontinue the nightmare of filming their lives and now you have destroyed your family. Hope the big bucks are worth it...AND what was up with Kate's cleavage last night? Unbelievable train wreck...

Mallypants said...

sorry ladies (and gentlemen) we tried-the episode drew 10.6 million viewers...


http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/06/exclusive-jon-kate-record-ratings-divorce-episode

Mystical said...

Marinka, LOL, fantastic recap! You wrote, "Kate is not fond of the idea, but she knows that it's necessary. And she's in agreeance." Another word creation by Kate. She has no realization that she's doing this type of thing, and just thinks she's sounding intellectual. hahaha

Mystical said...

Kate repeatedly said the word PEACE last night. When she said she will be providing HER kids with peace, I thought is that because she will be having fewer meltdowns now, as she mentioned? Or how exactly does she think she will provide them with the one thing she has never been able to give? There's nothing peaceful about the presence of Kate Gosselin as a mother, or as a person.

Can't See Sheep said...

wendyzr said...
Does anyone really think that we are going to see the truth of what is going on?

Cara's coffin house.
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Not entirely sure, but in about 20 byears 8 variations of what went on will likely be coming out in 8 seperate books, each very different. That is if Kate doesn't find a way to put a gag order or something along those lines on them, there you go, make them sign a confidentiality agreement that they can't put anyting in print or say anyting until she's dead and gone.

Ah yes, Cara's coffin house, love that little girl, our little goth in the making and it drives Kate nuts. Someone send her some clothes, makeup and jewelry so she can continue to drive Kate nuts. Go Cara Go, rebel you little darling and dont' let the evil witch clip your wings!

Re-enacting holidays, re-enacting life, etc and so on. Am I alone in thinking these kids are bound ot have a messed up grasp of what is real and what isn't? There is so much that is false and kids tend to believe what you tell them, especially at that age and especially if they hear it coming from their parents, not to mention all kinds of trust issues.

K8 claiming they haven't been living together for 2 years. Fist off the show started in 2007 that was 2 years ago, they were supposedly portraying their reality, THEIRS, not someone else's and in this they showed that they were together for those 2 years. I think Kate should have to go around ot all the churches and everyone else she ripped off during this time and explain herself.

Someone please tell that woman the mantra is not working. Oh Toto, whoops I mean Steve, all I have to do is say it three times and click my hooker heels together, "I do it all for MY kids... I do it all for MY kids.... I do it all for MY kids..... What, nothing yet???

The "career" thing is also something she needs to drop. Yes, I know, she keeps claiming books other people actually write are hers, and yes, public speaking is a career, but Kate is not someone I'd count in as a professional public speaker, public nuisance, yes, public speaker, no. Sure she can claim she's an author, she also claims she's a mother and I'm still far from being sold on that one, she can claim them both until doomsday, doesn't make it so, doesn't make it true. Lots of people claim to be all kinds of things, like Napoleon, however their relatives have seen the need to put them where the rest of society is safe from them.

Jon being offered a job, is that wishful thinking or what

I am not an actor said...

The one thing I caught was when the kids were sitting in their chairs in front of the houses. They were saying "be quiet we are doing an interview".

Yeah right.....those kids are just doing their day-to-day things. No acting involved there.

ovewithKON~~~~~~ said...

Awesome! I didnt watch, and am still appalled at J&K's stupidity. BUt there is a bright spot, a GWOP recap!

ThankkyouO!

CityGirl said...

I started watching this show very early on, and saw how kate made jon do most of the work. Even when he was working, he was still in charge of bathing the kids, getting up early with them while kate slept in etc. Kate has never wanted to be bothered with them. Jon may be a little slow, but he was very young when Kate organized the whole envitro thing, and he stepped up and stayed by her side, without running. I give him alot for that. Jon waits for direction from kate, to avoid arguments or whatever. I was married to a man like jon. I feel Kate had every bit of this planned. Pick out a daddy, get knocked up, everything. And then discard him once her finacial situation was established. I also believe that she directed Jon to say the actual words of "We're separating" so that he would look like the one leaving her. Only he is a little slow, and didn't know all of her plan just yet. That may be why he says that he doesn't know all the details yet. Because Kate hasn't informed him. Everyone has seen that Kate is the man of the house, which jon has let her, but I don't hold that against him. I just think that is his personality. I dont think he realized how he was being set up to look like he was cheating, I do think he was hanging out with people who included girls and that is what Kate needed him to do so that the public that she was a woman left alone with 8 kids. I believe Jon loves his kids, even kate and he would have stayed for the long haul, this is what Kate and Kate alone wanted, and she wins again. That's why she ran as fast as she could to file for the divorce, which appears to have even caught jon a little off gaurd. I am afraid of the end result of her raising those little boys, all of the kids for that matter, but especially the little boys. How would she feel if one of them ended up marrying someone like their mom, and Jon not being around enough to warn them. So Sad

CityGirl said...

Just one last thing, how sad is it that during the yard sale episode when Kate all the sudden "didn't care about memories" and made Jon sell those golf clubs that his dad gave him. He clearly did not want to, he wanted to hang on to them for his sons. I really hated her for that. I held on to the night gown my mom wore, before she passed away. Kate is very heartless.

for the kids, yeah right said...

Hilarious recap!

And what's up with Jon's earrings?

MissLynne(with an "e") said...

I'm not sure if someone posted this or not, but one little bright spot in the episode was Mady's happy dance that "Someone spelled my name right!" She was too cute. My name has an unusual spelling,( Most people leave off the "e".) so I can relate.

2badsosad said...

CountMeOut said...
something i noticed and am not sure anyone has touched upon. Cary and Mady on the few seconds they were on seemed kind of odd. Like they were..."on" or acting or something. I thought we'd have to wait 5 or so years to see the damage....but i can see it now. something was so odd about their behavior. agree?
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Yes, I agree. I thought they were totally over the top, like they were on stage. I expected them to start singing "It's a hard knock life for us!"

I know a lot of 8-9 year old girls, and some of them do behave in that LOOK AT ME way, but it seemed very different from the girls as we've seen them up til now.

Jane Veldez (not sure if I am spelling her name correctly) on HLN touched on this topic a bit yesterday. Jane said that the children, particularly the twins were obviously 'mugging for the cameras'.

sueshe said...

I saw this morning a rerun of the episode of Mother's Day and Jon preparing Kate breakfast in bed. And then Monday they showed Kate going to brunch with the family to celebrate this years Mother's Day.
For the life of me, I am trying to remember the episode where Kate made breakfast for Jon for Father's Day but I can't find it....any help would be appreciated...
I said this before but it didn't get posted, I am going to try again....
With Kate soon to be single, I think she should go and apply for a job on Discovery Channels, "DEADLIEST CATCH"...

Hmm said...

sueshe said...
With Kate soon to be single, I think she should go and apply for a job on Discovery Channels, "DEADLIEST CATCH"...

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Kate IS the Deadliest Catch. ;)

it'sNotCheatingWhenYoureSeparated said...

I emailed one nasty letter to the crooked house folks here is the reply:

Hello Melissa,

As you can imagine, exposure from last night's Jon and Kate episode has left us sifting through hundreds of requests. Your inquiry is very important to us and we expect to follow up within the next few days. Please bear with us! Thank you so much for your patience and understanding. If you'd prefer to have immediate attention, please feel free to call me directly at our toll-free number. We look forward to working with you and your family soon!

Best,
Amanda

gosselin8emancip8 said...

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but in regards to the division of property and keeping the kids in the house while J&K shuffle between the fishbowl and and their fancy singleton penthouses (or whatever)...wasn't the house put into a trust for the kids? Therefore I guess it really IS the kid's house afterall...and they should make crooked signs that say "No Parents Allowed".

I agree with the comment from eatfoodnot2muchmostlyplants, in that Cara and Mady were in rare form during that little snipet when the houses were being assembled. Especially Cara! Mady has always been big on the theatrics, but even those few moments seemed like a stretch for her. Poor girls are so starved for positive attention.

mom_of_2_boys said...

it'sNotCheatingWhenYoureSeparated said...
I emailed one nasty letter to the crooked house folks here is the reply:
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I e-mailed them as well Melissa. I got the exact same response from them as you did! I figured it was a generic message. The Crooked House company is just as crooked as Jon and Kate! I'm angry at all the companies that support Jon and Kate!

MBayShort said...

Did anyone notice that the tabloid photos from Eonline a week before the 'big' announcement? Kate had on the same black dress/pink cardigan from her couch session in Monday's divorce episode. Since that woman never wears the same thing twice I guess it was the shoot day for this Monday's big announcement. So much for having just been forced into filing divorce papers. That woman's been planning this for weeks, and make it seem like she just did it because of "Jon's actions".

EndTheShow said...

Why is Jon going to continue to be on the show? I'm pretty sure that at the end of season 4 he made it clear that he didn't enjoy being on the show/all the attention he receives at the grocery store. Am I wrong??

AeroSpice said...

EndTheShow said...
Why is Jon going to continue to be on the show? I'm pretty sure that at the end of season 4 he made it clear that he didn't enjoy being on the show/all the attention he receives at the grocery store. Am I wrong??
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I think his statement about, "who knows? maybe someone will offer me a job" Keep in mind..their idea of a job is a "show" I think someone already has offered it to him

totallyseriously said...

Humourous video comic:

http://www.salon.com/ent/video_dog/comedy/2009/06/24/bateman_jonkate/index.html

Mom of 5 said...

She said she felt that deep down Jon resented her for making him have another child after the twins. I don't know why that crossed my mind just now, but that statement can be very telling. Was their marriage in trouble from the start and they decided to pull together enough to make some money, which eventually turned into this?

Here's my take on it...

In Kate's self written letter to the 'tups that she supposedly wrote while on bedrest, she says that Jon wasn't ready to get pregnant again, but she went to the Dr. anyway. Yes, he had to provide the sperm sample...but I think she bullied him into it.

Then she super-ovulated, and the Dr. wouldn't do the insemination. That's documented in other places.

Well do you really think Jon was at the appointment with her? I don't. So I don't think he knew anything about the super-ovulation. I think she went home and seduced him. Maybe she even told him that the Dr. *did* the insemination, but she wanted to make love that night in addition, so that she could have that memory of how her baby was conceived, not just the cold sterile one?

And then when he found out what she had done...I think he was VERY angry with her. As he rightly should have been.

I wanted to comment on Kate's statement of "3 times the divorce rate..."

Since the divorce rate for first marriages is 41-50%, that's not exactly mathematically possible, now is it? ;-)

Of course in her defense, I found the same statement (2-3X the divorce rate) on some "official" moms of multiples type sites. I've been unable to find the supposed studies that found this to be true.

But here is the thing...I think the "studies" only looked at divorce in a set time frame after the birth of children. One reference I found (link at end of post) cited some studies done that looked at the first 18 months after a child was born...and found a 12.5% divorce rate.

Looking at that...it would make sense that it is possible that parents of multiples have a divorce rate that is is 3 times as high as the divorce rate with singletons--25-37.5% within 18 months of the birth.

But the Gosselins are well past that window. At this point...really and truly...having 'tups is not any more stressful than having 8 singletons with closely spaced ages.

It wasn't having multiples that ruined their marriage (I know, I'm preaching to the choir here), but hey, good try at blaming the kids! I imagine when Maddy & Cara went to school the day after that episode and their friends told them about that comment, it really made them feel warm and lovey towards their younger siblings. Or themselves for that matter.

(http://books.google.com/books?id=GowCvuHMm5oC&pg=PA10&lpg=PA10&dq=divorce+after+childbirth&source=bl&ots=rOmVflCKta&sig=QEefX5NFBxi0I0jjx_qu7Kx5K-E&hl=en&ei=aA1DSpu9Fcuntgew_8imCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5 (sorry for how long it is!))

CityGirl said...

Isn't Orange Co. Choppers filmed in New York? Could that be why Jon is considering to move there. Maybe while he was hanging out with the guys, he opened up about the situation with Kate. It appeared that they liked Jon and probably felt bad for him. And could have offered him a spot on their show? maybe that was the hint about being offered a job. Otherwise, why New York? It would be such a hassle to see the kids. If OCC is filmed there, that has to be it. I could be wrong, just thinking. Maybe those guys taped up his manhood, and refilled his ego tank- and BAM Jon came back to life. >Still Team Jon<

readerlady said...

I don't know what thread to post this under, but guess here is as good as any.

I was searching on imdb.com (the Internet Movie Database) for information on something totally unrelated to J&K. A link to one of their eps. came up, so I clicked on it, just for grins and giggles. IMDB indicates that 62 episodes aired from 4/2007 - present. Kon and the 'tups were in all 62 and Mady and Cara were in 58. So where does the 100th episode come in? IMDB isn't always up to the minute, but it is usually pretty current, so there can't be that many episodes missing from their data base. 38 missing episodes would be more than the number of weeks that have already elapsed for 2009. What gives here?

MissLynne(with an "e") said...

Readerlady said......
I was searching on imdb.com (the Internet Movie Database) for information on something totally unrelated to J&K. A link to one of their eps. came up, so I clicked on it, just for grins and giggles. IMDB indicates that 62 episodes aired from 4/2007 - present. Kon and the 'tups were in all 62 and Mady and Cara were in 58. So where does the 100th episode come in? IMDB isn't always up to the minute, but it is usually pretty current, so there can't be that many episodes missing from their data base. 38 missing episodes would be more than the number of weeks that have already elapsed for 2009. What gives here?

Readerlady,
My first heory is that they are counting the first 2 "Surviving Sextuplets & Twins" specials that were aired on Discovery Health as episodes of the series. My other theory is that the episodes were shown out of order. Maybe they did film 100 episodes, but only aired 90 something of them.
I checked imdb and counted 98 episodes. That included the 2 specials (which I added in myself)through the "100th." episode.
YMMV

ManicNarcissism said...

To the poster asking about number of episodes...

I am continuing to work on my time line and will post where to find it in a few days (it is too large to fit in a comment anymore - YIKES!). I had started about a month ago and posted it a few times but have expanded it to include a lot more items including air date, so i spent about an hour on IMDB yesterday. Here is what I have:

2 specials ( must be counting them??)
Season 1 - 8 episodes
Season 2 - 12 episodes
Season 3 - 31 episodes
Season 4 - 41 episodes
Season 5 (up until Bam!) - 4 episodes

That totals 98 episodes. A few were an hour so not sure if they get to count as two (I don't think so) but I used IMDB as my source. I'm going to look into a different source today and see if I can find the missing episodes.

ManicNarcissism said...

Okay, found one "missing ep" IMDB has go green as separate list. So now we have 99.

Tyra said...

Can you imagine Kate as an ex-wife? If Jon thinks he's had it rough so far, he'd better run for cover. Peaceful is a long way off!

jonandkatewho? said...

AeroSpice said...

Is it safe to bet the food that they had to share at the picnic was shared by the boys and not the precious girls?

6/23/2009 2:35 PM

Yes! Even though the girls had originally suggested that somebody share, Kate very quickly asked Aaden and Joel to share. She said it twice...asked if those two boys would share.

She does show favoritism doesn't she? What a bitch. Any other mom would have let the two girls who suggested the idea share the yogurt or whatever it was. She should have made sure there was enough to begin with.

Rosie5 said...

Fox news reported this morn that it might be jon and kate minus 8...the court Might step in and say that filming while a divorce is on going might be harmful to the kids (as if the last few years haven't been!) we can only hope...also wondering when will someone step up and want an accounting of the kids' money? in this deal where is the kids' lawyer?? could Kevin and Jody possibly step in at this point??

AeroSpice said...

jonandkatewho? said...
AeroSpice said...

Is it safe to bet the food that they had to share at the picnic was shared by the boys and not the precious girls?

6/23/2009 2:35 PM

Yes! Even though the girls had originally suggested that somebody share, Kate very quickly asked Aaden and Joel to share. She said it twice...asked if those two boys would share.

She does show favoritism doesn't she? What a bitch. Any other mom would have let the two girls who suggested the idea share the yogurt or whatever it was. She should have made sure there was enough to begin with.
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OMG the girls suggested they share? and she made the boys share?
Figures! and yes..for as organized as she claims to be...the threads are unraveling on her perfect image aren't they?
I've been calling HLN and other tabloids STRONGLY suggesting they do their research on this lady from the shady fertility treatments to present day. Hope something comes of it. She NEEDS to be EXPOSED for what she is...NOT the poor innocent me character she's trying so desperately to cling to.

readerlady said...

MissLynne and ManicNarcissism - you ladies have more patience (and must be more computer savvy) than I am. Thanks for keeping me on my toes.

it is what it is said...

I think that Kate knows that the courts might step in and "freeze" the money, while they figure out how to protect the children's funds. I have a feeling that's why
she's spending like its going out of style. Greed.

JenTru said...

Someone else already said it, but BEST. RECAP. EVER.

I loved it, thank you so much!

Melanie P. said...

What the hell kind of job is Jon qualified for other than squeegee kid? Seriously. Every job he's had has been a pity gimme job.

There's no job out there for people whose best qualifications are mooching, being lazy, talking like a teenager, and looking blankly at things.

Anonymous said...

LMFAO!!! I love Marinka shes too funny

Lissy said...

Melanie P. said:

There's no job out there for people whose best qualifications are mooching, being lazy, talking like a teenager, and looking blankly at things.
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LMAO! So funny and yet so sad.

Shelly said...

Does anyone remember the episode where Kate made Jon run after a giant ball that rolled in the street? She said to the kids something like, "Daddy may leave us one day... but not now." I forget the exact words but I remember when I heard it at the time I thought what a weird thing to say! This makes me think she knew something was up all along!

Leslie said...

I could not believe that Kate said "THIS IS THEIR HOUSE. I'VE ALWAYS SAID THAT....." WHEN, when they first got the BIG house - she yells at one of them "ARE YOU WEARING SHOES IN MY HOUSE?". Get your story straight lady in your staged/planned and probably REHEARSED reality show!

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