Family Movie Night and Girls Day Out

TLC is airing a new Jon & Kate Plus 8 episode tonight -- a one-hour feature starting at 8:00 p.m. Eastern titled Family Movie Night.

This was originally scheduled to air tomorrow night (Monday June 30) as the Season Four premiere, but was pushed back to tonight.

There will be another new one-hour episode airing tomorrow night, titled Girls Day Out. I don't believe this is a new Season Four episode, but a leftover from Season Three.

93 comments:

Confan said...

Thanks!

I also read on another board that someone said that TLC is advertising "The John & Kate Plus 8 music video release" tonight. Don't know what to think about this, for now I am just shaking my head in disbelief.

iluveeyore said...

We are now going to WATCH them WATCHING movies? Huh?

This is getting more and more bizarre. Have they no shame?

Steph said...

OK, I expect a meltdown of some sort tomorrow night (Jon only had to bring THREE boys, and I have to deal with FIVE!) but what could Kate possibly b*tch about tonight? How hard is it to sit and watch a movie, and maybe pop up some (organic) microwave popcorn?

Jayne said...

What the hell does J & K have to do with music-- except maybe singing the blues 24/7. Crackheads.

WatchOverThem said...

What could Kate possibly b*tch about tonight? She'll have the most old maids in HER popcorn, sticking in her bleached beauty teeth.

"Oh Lordy Beee JONNNN, I had to sit here with my kids for almost two hours!!!!!! I have to have brush my teeth time!!!!!!!!!

JON.I.WANNA.SEE.THESE.KIDS.IN.BED.IN.TWENTY.MINUTES!!!!!!!!!"

No surfing for you."

Anonymous said...

The comments here sound like communist, facist remarks. It's as if the people here take umbrage at a family's personal decision to make its personal life more public and receives income in the process. Yet, this is a country built on free enterprise and prides itself on its citizens ingenuity and enterprise, when building a life and providing for one's self or one's family.

How is what Jon & Kate Gosselin doing any different from anyone else selling any product? (This does not mean that I think J & K are selling their children as a "product" for t.v.)
If this is a "free enterprise" country, where does it say that anyone has the right to dictate how anyone else participates in this free enterprise, as long as there is no illegal activity going on? People model - yet no one criticizes models for hawking their "wares" to sell a product. People work behind counters, in various venues (stores, markets, etc.), promoting items to push and sell to the public -- yet, that's okay and does not meet criticism. People sell insurance (surely the biggest racketeers of all time!), and everyone thinks insurance is a good idea (yet, it IS strictly a subjective decision to buy insurance).

Yet, when the Gosselins make THEIR family (not anyone else's family) life open to cameras, for profit, they are highly criticized.

Jon and Kate Gosselin should not be judged, one way or another, for having their family televised - nor should they be criticized for whatever income they receive for their family's being televised. They have every right to take advantage of the free enterprise system that the democracy of this country provides. They're obviously working hard to take care of their eight children, and I hardly think most of us could do as good a job, given the same circumstances.

First Amendment, people! J & K have a right to be on t.v., and I applaud their job as parents and as providers for their family.

Steph said...

You are absolutely right. Jon and Kate have chosen-CHOSEN-to make their lives, and the lives of their minor children-public. With that publicity and money comes the right for the public to be critical. Just as the public is/was critical of Britney Spears, Courtney Love, Denise Richards, Anna Nicole Smith,Tom Cruise and others for their parenting. It is a result of what happens when a decision is made to allow cameras into the lives of you or your family.
Some "public personalities" guard their children's privacy vehemently, while others teach their children how to deal with the paparazzi. Others, like Denise Richards, Gene Simmons, The Osbournes, and ANS chose to allow the cameras INTO their homes and allowed their children to be filmed. All of these people-and their children-are then open to criticism. Sometimes, people will be critical of the children. It's not nice, perhaps, but that's what comes with choosing to have a public life.
If they don't want strangers to criticize them on the internet, then they should quit filming, get jobs, and move along quietly with their lives. As they chose to be public personalities, they can choose to become private again.

Alison said...

"Jon and Kate Gosselin should not be judged, one way or another, for having their family televised - nor should they be criticized for whatever income they receive for their family's being televised."



First Amendment Rights People! This is called "Gosselins without pity" not "Praise thee almighty Kate gosselin"

Bicoastal said...

"First Amendment, people! J & K have a right to be on t.v., and I applaud their job as parents and as providers for their family."

First Amendment, indeed. The Gosselin parents are as skeezy as they come. God Bless America!

Anonymous said...

No shit first amendment, anonymous. J&K have their right to pimp their kids on TV, and we have the right to criticize them.

laura linger said...

(This does not mean that I think J & K are selling their children as a "product" for t.v.)

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What product are they then selling? What reason do they have to be on television, if not for the children?

It's not about free enterprise, especially when their "right" to engage in it is at the expense of the mental and physical well-being, both in the long and short term, of innocent children.

Maggie said...

The children are the providers for their family. And I do see something wrong with that.

QOne said...

'The comments here sound like communist, facist remarks. It's as if the people here take umbrage at a family's personal decision to make its personal life more public and receives income in the process. Yet, this is a country built on free enterprise and prides itself on its citizens ingenuity and enterprise, when building a life and providing for one's self or one's family.'
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Goldang! The comma fairy isn't consistent with the comma dust, and the grammar fairy didn't even phone your mind.

Why do I think the author of this pompous bit of codswallop is Jonathan?

WatchOverThem said...

I only saw the end of this "Movie Night" episode. I did see CouchPotatoKate play with Jon's double chin and say that he would work out until that was gone? WTF? I don't like Jon Gosselin, but he looked hurt, really hurt and once again ambushed. Where is this woman's respect and support for her husband? Respect of his privacy within the marriage? She mocks him again and again, thinking it makes her cute and endearing to her public? Do I sound like I have terms of endearment for her? No wonder the kids have no privacy protection, Kate hasn't a clue what that even is. Have we ever seen Kate Gosselin do ONE thing for her own self improvement, other than Nip&Tuck cosmetic procedures donated by others, and probable Botox that must have made her eyes and mouth look just wonderful for a few episodes? Has she ever even taken a walk with her children, or worked out ever? She has poor posture and looks like she could really use some muscle tone. She is aging very quickly and as she continues to stoop forward, she will get saggier quickly. You may say I shouldn't be so critical? She brings it on herself. She rags and rags on his superficial qualities until he should just get up and leave the SofaSoirée. Where is her admiration for the guy getting up at 5am to work out while she keeps her growing bottom line in bed, probably too late to tell the twins goodbye, leaving for the bus. I loved it when he told her she would be required to get up early and help when all 8 kids went to school. She looked absolutely shocked, as if that would never happen. She is so working on being left by him, most doormats get some get-up-and-go eventually. She's too tired to stay awake in the evenings, too tired to be a morning person, too tired to let her kids stay up mid-day. Kate Gosselin is an uninteresting slug. A slug with hair that looks like the losing style on a "Shear Genius" episode. Pack your Cutcos, Kate, you're out.

Anonymous said...

Re: Laura Lingers' comment -

"What product are they then selling? What reason do they have to be on television, if not for the children?

It's not about free enterprise, especially when their "right" to engage in it is at the expense of the mental and physical well-being, both in the long and short term, of innocent children.'


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The children are fine and are certainly not abused. If anyone is being "abused," it's Jon. The poster above (watchoverthem) is absolutely right on the mark about Kate Gosselin and her treatment of her husband. HE'S the one being "abused."

laura linger said...

All true, watchoverthem. And whatever happened to "for better or for worse?" Do any of us who have been married or with the same partner for any length of time look exactly the same as we did when we first got together? Her comments were just scathing and mean and she attacked the man she supposedly loves where it often hurts men the most: their vanity.

Anonymous said...

I think everyone's comments are disgusting.

Even if the Gosselins are selling their kids (which I highly doubt), how else do you propose they support themselves? Have Kate win the lottery? Jon get a six figure job? Yeah, right.

I don't think anyone here as the right to criticize this family until they have 8 kids and KNOW the struggles to raise them.

Anonymous said...

I propose that they GET A JOB! Just like every other typical American family. So what, they have eight children! This has got to be my biggest gripe about this family, their bogus plea of 'we have 8 children to support'. As if they have no other alternative than to use their sob story of having 8 children ( I could care less that they have two sets of multiples) and in turn USE those 8 children as their sole means of monetary support and financial gain. There are many many blue collar and white collar families in America with 8+ children that manage to support their family without a television reality show. And they do it without freebies, love offerings, free vacations et. J & K are two able bodied individuals that are fully capable of employment, but would rather pimp out and ride the backs of their children for a paycheck!

iluveeyore said...

"Family Movie Night"? They watched "movies" (Planet Earth!!) for about 5 minutes. The rest of the time, we watched Jon run errands and go to the gym. So THAT'S what he does all day!

I'm glad to see that the Gosselins finally took their viewers' advice and now take kids on errands. We suggested that a long time ago, and highly "organized" Kate said they couldn't keep track of whose turn it was! Interesting -- she now says that the CHILDREN keep track! I think that Joel's crying when Jon leaves should be looked into... just as the vomiting when Kate leaves. Perhaps Joel gets more abused when Jon isn't there. Although, Jon does pretty well himself, making fun of Joel.

Anonymous said...

I'd like to point out that while Kate wasn't exactly nice to Jon tonight, he isn't exactly nice to her. On just the superficial front he has made fun of her clothing, how heavy she was after the tups, and the fact that she wasn't a blonde anymore, to name just a few. Remember that he kept track of her weight obsessively and felt the need to point out how big she got while CARRYING HIS SIX CHILDREN. They are equally as mean to each other on the superficial front. Jon is not only a hen-pecked husband of fishwife Kate. Again, they are equally as mean to each other on the non-superficial parts of their life. Jon rails against Kate as much, if not more than Kate against Jon. Kate just does it more in the chair than Jon does. I say all this with a caveat; it works for them. Sometimes they get on these mean streaks and then they start to laugh. My parents have been married for 41 years and they have a very similar, joking relationship. If it works for them, and they love each other, who are we to say how horrible they are? Except here we aren't, we're saying how horrible Kate is.

Anonymous said...

Anyone see the music video of the Gosselins last night? That was the epitome of narcissism. How if they could choose a life it would be theirs or some crap like that. It was "horrendous"! Can't believe how low they have stooped. They are probably trying to sell that icky song to Christian radio stations for some airplay too.

The thing that bothers me most about Kate, along with what everyone says, is the way that she will never EVER admit she is wrong and how she isolates her family. Seriously, I am surprised Dr. Phil hasn't stepped in and tried to reconcile Kate with her parents and MIL. It is just plain sad how these kids will never experience true unconditional love of grandparents.

WatchOverThem said...

I think there are close to as many posts describing Jon's bad behavior as Kate's on this blog. And both of their bad behavior together, that's kind of the whole premise of the blog. Kate was in the cross-hairs last night with her belittling comments that we see over and over again from her. Jon's comments seem to come as a response to something she initiated, during the confessionals anyway. Jon's turn will happen again, as long as they both keep treating each other like crap. I understand that some people put up with this type of behavior within a marriage for many years, at times, but I can hardly agree that it's a good thing or the right way to go. There are consequences for children experiencing the berating and argumentative behavior and ultimate consequences to the core happiness and sanctuary of the whole family.

Autumnn said...

I grew up with a family of 9 kids. My parents both worked and nevere needed to grovel. And they did NOT have a college education to boot!! They supported us on their salaries as a waitress and a warehouse worker.

Oh and we all went to private school too.

Puhleeze with the sympathy. Work never killed anyone. Get a job.

Anonymous said...

Jon and Kate again promoted the idea that they are struggling economically when she discussed the donation of the bikes, as well as when she pointed out how expensive it would be to take the family to the movies. And yet, in the same episode, we see Jon joining a private gym and working out with a private trainer. Frankly, anyone really struggling financially, would find both of those expenditures optional.

Anonymous said...

You want DR. Phil to get involved? The guy who made has many millions and lives in a huge mansion in Beverly hills all the time he was never certified by the state of California. If you want to look for a scam artist to bring down, look at that tool. And many people in this world have grown up in this society without grandparents. And not all grandparents love unconditionally.

Anonymous said...

Oh and let's not forget that Dr. Phil tried to make Britney's recovery a public story when the family wanted to keep it private. He also had his cronies that work for him bail out that girl in Florida who along with her friends beat up another girl so he could get the exclusive on the story for his show. But Dr. Phill is also an example about how bringing bad press to a person doesn't exactly bring them down. His show still goes on. So this board can throw all the bad press at J&K, it could just backfire and make them more popular than ever.

moi said...

I don't think anyone here as the right to criticize this family until they have 8 kids and KNOW the struggles to raise them.

Last time I checked, I live in the USA and have the right to criticize anyone I choose, including momey-grubbing "parents" who feel entitled to freebies simply because they took advantage of a scientific procedure which they knew full-well greatly increased their odds of having multiples. Have a great day.

QOne said...

'Even if the Gosselins are selling their kids (which I highly doubt), how else do you propose they support themselves? Have Kate win the lottery? Jon get a six figure job? Yeah, right.

I don't think anyone here as the right to criticize this family until they have 8 kids and KNOW the struggles to raise them.'
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Oh tosh and double tosh! Most families with eight children got them the 'regular' way. The Gosselins? Jon had sex with himself a few times, and Kate spent more time slinging her feet into the stirrups than Dale Evans did riding Buttermilk.

The people who got their children the 'regular' way support them by working. The self-sex (who probably didn't need a 'Playboy' magazine but instead visualized himself on a snow board) and Mrs Heigh Ho, Silver way support their children by making the children work to pay for the personal trainer and spa days.

Happy trails to you!

Anonymous said...

Watchoverthem: I think people do what works best for them. I'm from a family where we endlessly mock each other, but we also love each other and are sure to tell each other that. I see a lot of that in the Gosselin family. I assure you, we are all happy, well adjusted kids and have no issues with our own relationships as adults. I think there is a good chance that this will be the case with the Gosselin children as well. I hardly see posts that are about Jon, except to say how henpecked he is or how he needs to grow a pair and stand up to what you all think is a shrew wife. She did, by the way, say that she was happy Jon was keeping up with the working out because he felt better about himself, and it made him calmer and nicer. Also, he has said numerous times (during couch talks and during the actual events) that he wants to be thinner, work on his diet. During one couch time Kate said that she comments about it because he constantly says he wants to work out, lose weight, get buff, but then he doesn't do it. Not that this fact makes it better, but maybe a little less like its. all. Kate's. fault. As to her looks, I think Kate looks pretty good, she has looked pretty slim the past couple of episodes despite the fact that people say she's getting fat. Housework is good exercise, maybe she keeps fit by doing that and she doesn't need to improve herself by going to the gym? Just because she puts herself on TV, and because she wants to look good you obviously feel the need to tear apart her looks. Because she asks for it, of course. For someone who claims to be a good Christian woman that's quite the Christian thing to do.

To Laura Linger: Women are vain too, it hurts equally as much to have your husband say that he only likes blondes, that she has a disgusting, squishy belly that carried his 8 children, etc.

Anonymous said...

I don't have any problem with the snide remarks Jon and Kate make to each other - except for the fact that it's a bad model for their children. But Jon and Kate are both grownups and can decide for themselves what kind of relationship they want.

But I do object to the self-improvement procedures paid for by sacrificing their children's privacy. I was thinking about the Christmas episode where they recounted the story of how mortified Hannah was because she wet her clothes -- and thought how cruel it was to tell the story, for all eternity, since they just finished saying that the little girl was so upset and embarrassed. So to be able to afford a private trainer because you've made a deal with the devil -- that doesn't seem right.

:)BEL said...

I don't think Kate was promoting the idea that they are struggling financially by merely recapping that Ellen had gifted the bikes to them. It "would" be expensive to buy 8 bikes at one time. I took her comment about the bikes more from a "grateful we don't that expense" tone.

iluveeyore said...

According to this article, children do not add to the happiness of married couples:

http://www.newsweek.com/id/143792?GT1=43002

I have been thinking about the Gosselins' situation and I cannot imagine how unbearable it must be for both of them to do pretty much nothing but take care of their brood all day. They have got to be sick of each other... each and every one of them... parents and kids. I know I am.

funkycatt said...

In regards to how they are supposed to support 8 kids without a reality tv show, I say, it can be done! My parents had 7 kids, my mom was a stay at home mom and we went to private school too. Granted, we never had brand new matching bikes or gymboree clothing, but I don't think we would have wanted them.

I find it interesting that people on the internet have been saying things like, they should get rid of the sippy cups and bibs, and they should take a kid on errands today. Lo and behold, we see the girls licking the spoon from Monkey Munch without bibs, the kids have straw cups for movie night and one kid gets to go on errands with Jon. (and gets an entire donut hole to himself!)

I thought the whole thing about the bikes was kind of funny. I missed who gave them to them, but I don't really think that matching bikes for all the kids are necessary. One of the boys was riding around on a pink bike. WHO CARES! Seriously. And Kate said she looked at everything they had two of for the girls and thought "we need 6 more for the sextuplets." No Kate, you need 4 more! Because you already have two! Its called hand me downs.

But my biggest WOW moment came when they were watching the nature video with the kids. Did they not preveiw the movies ahead of time! The movies is so upsetting that one of the kids is crying and you can't forsee that happening. I don't even like to watch nature shows that involve animals getting eaten and I'm a grown-up and a mom.

Seriously, if I'm going to put a movie in for my kids I at the very least make sure that no one eats anyone else. Or gives them a "piggy back ride."

iluveeyore said...

I think I'm getting sick and tired of these people -- both adults and kids.

If Jon and Kate do NOTHING all day but tend to their brood (Kate takes naps now since she has nothing else to do?), they have got to be sick of each other.

It's NOT cute that they need hugs and kisses every time someone walks out a door -- from their parents or their siblings. It's absurd.

The rationale for watching a movie on Friday nights got more and more ridiculous. Why did they even have to try to pretend that they do that whenever. Just say we're doing it tonight.

Also rather telling -- all the cartons they have to throw out EVERY WEEK. I would assume that those are full of freebies when they arrive -- juice, clothes, etc.

Anonymous said...

That was one of the things I was wondering while watching last night (among many things). What is in all these packages that come to their house? He said he could make a run to the dumpster every day. I guess they can't just run to the local store and buy six matching whatevers, so they have to order everything to be delivered.

Anonymous said...

Also rather telling -- all the cartons they have to throw out EVERY WEEK. I would assume that those are full of freebies when they arrive -- juice, clothes, etc.

I noticed a lot of those boxes (while they were still on the garage floor) had the Amazon "smiley" on them.

laura linger said...

You're absolutely right about women and vanity, and it did not sit well with me at all that a pregnant Kate was taken to task by Jon for her weight gain. That's very true.

Was taking a walk down memory lane recently with my Mom on the phone and we got to discussing the families who were active in our parish when we kids were young. We remember several families who had eight, nine, even ten kids, and none of them multiples (just good Irish Catholics). This "phenomenon" of large families is nothing new, as our memories go back to the early 1970s.

Maggie said...

I think the posters here may have a point..How would they support 8 children?

Kate has said that she will never work as a nurse again, so that leaves Jon, who cannot get a job without his wife publicly begging, and cannot keep a job.

There is public assistance, which they have already tried, but that won't keep you in spa dates.

Anonymous said...

I am bothered by the latest privacy issue concerning the kids. Why are there video cameras now installed in the childrens' rooms? It's uncalled for. I guess next we will get to see them use the bathroom. Oh, wait, that's already happened.

Anonymous said...

It has been mentioned on another entry but I believe Kate said the cameras in the tup's rooms were only temporary. They were being used to show who naps still and who doesn't (but she also said they didn't need a camera to tell them that).

sabrinasmom said...

I think all of their family activities are a bit contrived. In the "Games Gosslins Play" - after Jon "broke" the rules playing hide and seek he said - that it was "fun" and he would "do it again" - which leads me to believe that they DO NOT do these things on a regular basis. Movie night is a bunch of crap too. Last night they couldn't decide if movie night was something they have done for a long time or something they just started doing. BTW - I grew up with a bunch of families that had a lot of kids (I am Catholic) - their Moms didn't work and their Dads were primarily Cops or Firemen and they all survived and sent their kids to Parochial school to boot.

Anonymous said...

I knew a family in the church I grew up in that had 18 children when I finished 10th grade. Eighteen. And you didn't see her whining on and on or living in a McMansion. This family had 5 bedrooms for the kids and each child had a cubby for clothes that were laundered. They were expected to clean up after themselves. I understand having small children that don't know just yet how to do all that is frustrating but it isn't impossible. Women have been doing it for years and working in the fields as well. Kate is no different than anyone else. The attention that is paid to this shrew is just wasteful.

Anonymous said...

I have had enough.

Anonymous said...

IMO, all the activies and special days out are nothing but a phoney scripted attempt on TLC's and J & K's part in a lame attempt to try and convince veiwers that this is really a day in the life of. Most times the children, even the twins display minimal interest and or appear as if it is the first time they have ever experienced said event or activity. Even J & K appear less than interested in these episodes, even more so when Kate drones on and on in her self proclaimed attempt to convince HERSELF as well as the viewers that these types of episodes are merely just a day in the life of.

Anonymous said...

Just finished watching Girls Day Out. Jon is actually growing back a pair of hairy balls. He looked totally like he wanted out of this marriage in the shot of the driveway this evening.
Run like the wind Jon and take those three boys with you; let Kate be a happy lady to her beloved girls.

Mama Kate said...

Wow, tonight's episode was classic. Jon couldn't have possibly shown more disdain for Kate, could he? Not only did he give her dirty looks the entire time she made him go back and forth from house to car before she left, but when he was at the gym, he even badmouthed her to his hot female trainer. I loved it! My husband even looked up from his computer once and said "Has he screwed the trainer yet? He really needs to". And I have to say, I agree.

And that music video? Made me want to vomit. I think it is funny that Kate finds it difficult to drive hither, thither and yon into the "city", which most likely was the bustling metropolis of Lancaster or Harrisburg (wooooo, big city, all right) to go paint pots with her kids, but she doesn't mind driving four hours into New York City for her kids to bang on some bongos. I would have at least expected them to sing. The entire music video they mouthed some words and spun around their backyard. And Jon and Kate pretended to like each other. This music video was about as uncomfortable as "The Singing Office". Uck.

Anonymous said...

Mama Kate? She drives 35 miles to church just to avoid going to her dads church 500 feet away from their house!

sugarjay said...

That music video was the most ridiculous thing I've seen in a long time. It reminded me of when the Brady Bunch kids all formed a band. Does that mean Jon & Kate plus 8 has officially jumped the shark?

Mama Kate said...

Sugarjay, that is funny you said that, because I made that same comment to someone today. It SO reminded me of the Brady Kids, and it most definitely was the Jump the Shark moment for me. I had thought there were other shark jumping moments in the past, but this was definitely it!

Anonymous, yes, she does drive 35 miles to go to church. It seems Kate is willing to drive just about anywhere, whether it is hither, thither OR yon, if freebies and/or money is involved. I am sure Daddy Kreider just doesn't pay the big bucks to Kate, hence her not wanting anything to do with him! :-)

Anonymous said...

OK - I used to read this blog and think that most people were being a bit harsh, especially calling Kate a narcissist. But I admit it - You Are All Right - there is nothing warm, happy, loving about Jon & Kate any more. I watched Girls Day Out and I couldn't believe what I saw. Even my 9 year old wrinkled her nose and looked questioningly at me when Kate called Leah's pottery a puppy nightmare. Wow - even a 9 year old knows that is not a nice thing to say - a 33 year old woman should know better.

And what about her comments about the orange jewelry Mady made. Again, so many commentators here have made the observation: Kate doesn't like Mady. Hit the nail on the head, people. Why denigrate the jewelry your daughter chose and made herself? What difference is it to you what color it is? Maybe Kate was hoping that Mady would make jewelry for her and was mad that it wasn't a color she liked. I don't know - it was all so self centered, obnoxious, unloving - ugh!

Jon looked like he wanted to kill Kate in the driveway. She sat in the front seat like a Queen shouting demands and then tosses Mady's shoes out the window and says Mady told her to do it. Huh?? Kate, get your lazy ass out of the car and go get the potty seat for pete's sake.

I think that either the trainer has the hots for Jon or was just eager to have her 15 minutes of fame: why else would you shut down your establishment to cater to one client and bring in your two teenagers to watch that client's kids?

And then Jon half-freaks about Smoothies spilling on the carseat buckle. Call me a slob, but worse things got spilled on my kids' carseats and I didn't flip out. But then I don't have a OCD spouse watching over my every move.

Uggh - so scripted, so contrived, so not entertaining, such unattractive, unkind and inconsiderate behaviour. Tonight really opened my eyes - in the past, yes, I saw bickering but you'd see the occasionaly flicker of warmth, love, perhaps a moment of humility or recognition of faults, whatever you'd like to call it. Tonight, I saw nothing. I saw people going thru the motions, not feeling it, not living, just walking thru the motions.

Sorry - I think this post was a bit disjointed but I just had to vent.

Anonymous said...

I think it is probably one of the most horrible things I have read on this blog (and that's saying a lot) to say that Jon should sleep with his trainer, or "run away from Kate with the boys." That is downright hateful. I can understand wanting filming to stop, but rooting for the marriage to break up when everyone professes such concern for the children's welfare: Do you really think the children will be better then?

Serena said...

That is downright hateful. I can understand wanting filming to stop, but rooting for the marriage to break up when everyone professes such concern for the children's welfare:

Keep in mind that when you are reacting to a post, you are reacting to a single person (the one who wrote it), not to "everyone" who has an issue with Jon and Kate.

Anonymous said...

I understand I'm responding to one person, I was responding to the person (actually they were two separate comments) directly, though I don't know how to quote so I paraphrased. On a whole, however, I would point out that I think a lot of the posts even have gotten away from the original point of the blog which was to advocate for the children. The two most recent posts are mostly about what a shrew Kate is. In order for those to become actual posts means the blog owner approves them (you approve them, from what I can see). It just seems that the entire blog along with the above comments are pretty far from the original intention.

Serena said...

I understand I'm responding to one person, I was responding to the person (actually they were two separate comments) directly, though I don't know how to quote so I paraphrased. On a whole, however, I would point out that I think a lot of the posts even have gotten away from the original point of the blog which was to advocate for the children. The two most recent posts are mostly about what a shrew Kate is. In order for those to become actual posts means the blog owner approves them (you approve them, from what I can see). It just seems that the entire blog along with the above comments are pretty far from the original intention.

Your point is taken, but I will say that observing that a situation is ripe for an affair to develop is not hoping that it happens or wanting it to happen; I think everyone realizes that the destruction of Jon and Kate's marriage is the last thing the Gosselin children need... it would devastate them, as divorce usually does.

But you are right -- there are posts approved (and comments) that do veer off the main objective of this blog.

Anonymous said...

Ripe for an affair I'll grant you, if they were mere observations of such I would have let them be, but they were hoping that the affair happen. I was only attempting to point out to them that maybe that wasn't the best thing. I didn't mean to comment that everyone hopes for that, I'm sorry. The second comment just grew out of the response to the first, I didn't mean to be rude or imply that everyone thinks that. I just get a little wary when the posts devolve into a hatefest when the original purpose was a good one.

Serena said...

Ripe for an affair I'll grant you, if they were mere observations of such I would have let them be, but they were hoping that the affair happen. I was only attempting to point out to them that maybe that wasn't the best thing. I didn't mean to comment that everyone hopes for that, I'm sorry. The second comment just grew out of the response to the first, I didn't mean to be rude or imply that everyone thinks that. I just get a little wary when the posts devolve into a hatefest when the original purpose was a good one.

I think I see where you are coming from, thanks for elaborating. I do appreciate your viewpoint and you make some good points.

Anonymous said...

I had to stop watching last night's episode after the first 1/2 hour. Not ony did I find the episode extremely boring but I could not waste another moment of my time witnessing Kate one again belittle and demean her husband in front of the children! Not only did she belittle and demean her husband in front of the children but also found it necessary to appeal to the production crew for confirmation and approval of what she said. Poor Kate does EVERTHING while Jon stands there with arms folded. Kate if Jon is so usless at home and fails to meet your standards and expectations as a stay at home dad, then perhaps he would better serve the family by going back to work outside the home and YOU maintain the household and tend to the children in a manner that adheres to your standards. What was to be a special day out spending time with the children begins with mommy on her narcasisstic fed high horse, per usual, bitching and moaning. Kate was determined to instigate drama and ruin this special day from the get go with her self induced anxiety and neurosis regarding how the children MIGHT get paint on them at the pottery place to her constant belittling and demeaning attitude and words towards her husband.
IMO,When a parent, ie Kate, is so self absorbed in their own neurosis, panic, anxiety, and necessity to control that it begins to diminish and interfer with the quality of life, or ability to participate in and experience quality of life of her own children, its time to get some serious therapy!! ASAP!!

Anonymous said...

Oh dear, I didn't realize that the object of the blog was to "advocate for the children". I can't comment on that because I am such an anti-activist it isn't funny. Actually, I don't think the children would be any worse off if their parents did separate; how much worse could it be? That is just my OPINION.

Katy said...

Does anyone check the Ip addresses of the anonymous posters? Sorry but I think the one who called someone's post "downright hateful" is kate. I notice patterns in how certain comments are written in this and other forums and they sound all too familiar. There was another comment that called the OP "downright ignorant" that had Jon written all over it. Listening to Kate and Jon, esp Kate, drone on and on on the show has its perks, you start to notice patterns of speech ....I would not be surprised if a good percentage of pro jon and kate comments to these posts are made by either jon and kate or jon or kate. We know they are unencumbered by much work other than directing the "help" and reading emails.

anyway the post was written at approx 8:36 am gosselin time. Just about when the princess wakes to her bed coffee. Good morning Kate!

FIONA said...

And then Jon half-freaks about Smoothies spilling on the carseat buckle.

Actually, I don't think he freaked at all. He was calm. I think he was thinking what wrath Kate would give the boys, and him, if they came home with stains on their shirts. Jon has his faults, but at least he is a calming force in the children's lifes.

FIONA said...

I too, am hoping that email addresses, IP, etc...are being checked to try and maintain the integrity of the blog.

The one good thing, if Jon and Kate are posting, that means they are also reading.

It is somewhat apparent they are listening to what we are saying...days out, no more bibs, one on one time. It is a shame that Jon and kate have to take advice from a blog...but if it helps the kids, then...JON AND KATE, PLEASE KEEP READING.

Anonymous said...

I laugh that people think that house is a McMansion. It is not. McMansions have large living rooms, a seperate dinning room, a family room usually off the kitchen, and high vaulted ceilings when you walk in. Mcmansions also have a more elaborate staircase when you walk in because you have a much bigger foyer. The cost of J&K's house wouldn't qualify it as a McMansion either. At least not in Pennsylvania. McMansions in Pennsylvania probably begin at around $400,000 or $500,000 like they do here in Michigan. Down south where big houses are so much cheeper they may be able to find a McMansion or something just a little smaller for $280,000.

erin said...

I'm the anonymous poster who said the comments were hateful, I promise I'm not Kate. I also don't know Kate or anyone who knows Kate. I posted under my original name at one point but was really jumped on so I thought it might be better not to post using my name again. I'll state again that while I don't always agree with the posts, but I think the overall purpose is good. And I really do think its pretty hateful to devolve into a hatefest and say that Jon should cheat on his wife or run away with her sons. But that's just my opinion.

laura linger said...

Did anyone else notice that Fuzzy Bunny was so warm and friendly and inviting to the little boys? Much warmer than we have seen Kate act in, well, ever.

I like Fuzzy Bunny, and her child was nice, too. I can see why Jon treats that gym as a peaceful haven.

FIONA said...

Well anyone is a fuzzy bunny compared to Kate. I hope he doesn't get himself into trouble.

But when your hubby starts going to the gym and getting buff, AND talking about his trainer, I as a woman and a wife would start seriously looking at what needs aren't being met at home...for both of them. Sorry, but I DO NOT see love, compassion or respect. Maybe they had, maybe they didn't. I think that is hard to tell from a wedding video. Time will tell.

Natalie said...

Fiona, excellent point. He got married when he was only 22 years old (stupid move in the first place)and is now saddled with eight kids and a mean, nasty, shrill bitch for a wife. He's got to have regrets and at least imagining the possibilities/potential of getting his needs met elsewhere.

Anonymous said...

Who on earth would even think about (or want) to have a relationship / affair with a man who has 8 children all under the age of 10? I know there are some really really dumb women walking this planet...but c'mon.

Anonymous said...

Some women like the puppy dog, whipped and neutered type of guy.

FIONA said...

Who on earth would even think about (or want) to have a relationship / affair with a man who has 8 children all under the age of 10? I know there are some really really dumb women walking this planet...but c'mon.


You must be joking???? This is a low blow, but I can totally see Jon getting a little on the side...BECAUSE he could get away with it. They both know divorce would be mighty hard for either of them to bounce back from...so I could see this as a way for him to get what he needs emotinally from someone else. I am only being honest and is just an opinion of course.

Maggie said...

Danielle Steele had a thing for prisoners, men on death row get married all the time, often to attractive, wealthy women. Jon wouldn't have a problem!

Jayne said...

Kate just doesn't have a very good grasp of herself and the way she sounds to everyone around her and to the people watching the show. Everything that comes out of her mouth is negative- nastiness to Jon (not that he is so swell), back handed complements to the kids and their art, the things she rants on about on the confessional sofa... Kate really needs to get herself a good therapist. Sure, she's been "done wrong" by her parents being too strict, but she should have thought about being a better parent to her kids than what she had. This whole spiel about "making memories" is so fake. She forces everything. One interesting point is that the kids are going to make for one hell of a psychological study when they get older. I wonder if they will go 'Tups and Twins of the Corn on her later in life.....

Nancy said...

I dunno about Kate blaming her parents' strictness for her behavior as an adult... a lot of us had strict parents and didn't turn out to be shrews!

Anonymous said...

Jon and Kate are two unappealing pseudo-adults, IMO. Kate, especially, doesn't seem to be able to filter what comes out of her mouth and Jenn happily gets it on film. Then there's a scramble for damage control that ends up digging the gruesome twosome in even deeper. It's all there on film for the children and their friends to see--over and over. OK. J & K have a lot of kids to support, but why is it right that the children should support them? Hair plugs, fancy trips, spas, cosmetic dentistry? Give me a break. These vain, immature people need a reality check before it's too late. This show jumped the shark a long time ago. Sigh.

Anonymous said...

would it kill her to interact with hers sons? her disdain for boys couldnt be made any more clear. i have seen very few shows, with her interacting with them. as for jons days out with the boys, he isnt doing anything with them, its all about him.

these are two of the most selfish parents i have ever seen. does john even work any longer?

Anonymous said...

I love this blog and Aunt Jodi's sister's blog. Seriously you have to wonder what these two are going to do financially once the show is over. Oh and trust me the show will be over soon.

Anonymous said...

'Princess Kate' doesnt do anything that 'Princess Kate' doesnt want to do. She doesnt like; to fold,iron and put laundry away, participate or interact in various activities with her husband or children, pick out her own clothing, decorate and organizing her own home, children's washable markers, paint, sidewalk chalk, or participating in any form of child friendly activity, ski (snow), roller blade, dance, sun screen, her husband's weight gain and hair loss, her husband breathing too loud, put gas in her car, take out the trash, the idea of keeping track of which child's turn it is for a special day , drive across town (even if it means spending a special day with a child) ...etc and so on. More often then not, an episode of J & K + 8 does not go by without Kate disclosing a list of her dislikes. What Kate dislikes she either excludes herself from or disregards all together. IMO, there is probably a pretty long list of people including that of family and friends that have been disregarded or excluded from the children's lives because they did not fit in to the self serving agenda of Princess Kate.

CeeJai said...

I have just today been enlightened to all of the stuff being said about Kate (I know, I'm late)I have always thought she was doing herself a huge disservice by showing on national TV how ugly she is to Jon and what took the cake in my opinion was when she told him to quit breathing so hard because his nose was stuffed and made this huge deal about it. He does a good job most of the time being light hearted about it but if ANYONE ever treated me the way she does him, I would be gone.
Another thing that has been irking me since reading some of the responses is the people that say things like "most people couldn't do as good a job as them" ummm, HELLO, I have 6 soon to be 7 kids and I am a SINGLE mother and I do it without someone cooking our meals, folding our laundry, I do not have babysitters (my mom will watch them occasionally but that is limited) and thank God there is no man in my house to belittle in front of the children.
She also says inappropriate things TO the kids about their dad which is totally wrong.
True, nobody is perfect and we will all make mistakes as parents and nobody is nice all the time but if you are going to put your family on national television, at least try to be nicer. Like other people have said-makes you wonder what she's like when the cameras are off. Scary

Anonymous said...

WOW- watched the reruns of cupcake and movie night- WOW!! Hope TLC is reading these blogs because you have lost a viewer. What is wrong with that women? Better yet, what has happended to that family? Where have the mundain, everyday play with the kids in the garage etc days go. Where is all the innocent laughing and kids just playing? Kate is miserable, she looks like she is getting fedup with the camera crew. How about the crew hanging up her window blinds and she critizes the man saying will he have to do it again twice! If you look in the back ground and see one of the crew memebers face he looks like he is wating for a beating! Just incredible! Also, how long can this show go on? The kids should attend some sort of preschool since they are 4 just to get AWAY from thier crazy mother and get around some normal children besides thier siblings. I was wondering if kate will homeschool? Or better yet hire a teacher? Again, TLC- you have lost a viewer and it sounds like a bunch more. The show has totally jumped the shark. I do look forward to a dateline exclusive 14 years from now when they graduate high school " What happended to the Gosselin children- where are they now?"

SaraxMxB said...

Oh tosh and double tosh! Most families with eight children got them the 'regular' way. The Gosselins? Jon had sex with himself a few times, and Kate spent more time slinging her feet into the stirrups than Dale Evans did riding Buttermilk.

The people who got their children the 'regular' way support them by working. The self-sex (who probably didn't need a 'Playboy' magazine but instead visualized himself on a snow board) and Mrs Heigh Ho, Silver way support their children by making the children work to pay for the personal trainer and spa days.

Happy trails to you!
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Before I say this, I want everyone to realize that not everyone who leaves positive comments about the Gosselins are from the "Gosselin camp"-- they have rights to their opinions too. Anyway, the comment about was not only vulgar, but it hurt my feelings. Kate has openly confirmed that she has Polycistic Ovarian Syndrome, which can make it very difficult to conceive on your own. I also have PSO, and all my life I have wanted children. Is it a crime to do whatever it takes to get them? And I'm sorry, but I cannot get it out of my head that most of these comments are out of jealousy. Are you trying to tell me that if someone approached you to do a show for an undisclosed amount of money, you would immediately say no? Yeah, right. This is America-- home of the American Dream. If you want to go and criticize someone, start with the parents of the other TLC show, "Kids by the Dozen".

While I say this, I do want to make sure people realize I'm not against Aunt Jodi or Julie. I find the whole thing... interesting, to say the least.

Serena said...

Are you trying to tell me that if someone approached you to do a show for an undisclosed amount of money, you would immediately say no? Yeah, right.

No, I wouldn't immediately say no.

I'd wait until they got to the part where I had to pimp out my kids and then I'd go, "Oh HELL no!".

moi said...

SaraxMxB said: "Anyway, the comment about was not only vulgar, but it hurt my feelings. Kate has openly confirmed that she has Polycistic Ovarian Syndrome, which can make it very difficult to conceive on your own. I also have PSO, and all my life I have wanted children. Is it a crime to do whatever it takes to get them?"

Sarax, in my early 30s it became obvious that we needed help to conceive. I had to take Parlodel, which has terrible side effects, but regardless, I went ahead with it. I got pregnant and then miscarried before I had my current (healthy) children, for whom I am so very grateful.

For people like us, who have experienced problems with infertility, carrying to term, etc., the story of two people in their early-20s who ran to the infertility-route just a few months after they were married (and became pregnant just 8 months into their marriage) doesn't sit so well with me, KWIM?

Anonymous said...

Yes the Gosslins are a "product" (not one that I endorse)and that is how they are presently making a living. They made a choice know full well that their 2nd preganancy would be a mutiple--2 or more. They do have a college fund established by the governor of PA no less & in his words "A PA Treasure" My thought is now that they are making the bigger bucks maybe they ought to consider giving back to the little church that gave them so much!!!

K.C. said...

Anon 10:42 AM,

You are right about them not giving back to the little church that gave them so much!!! And to top it all off that 'little church' is run by Kate's father and it's just a stone's throw from their house! Yet they pack up and drive an hour away to go to a DIFFERENT church. Now if that doesn't says a lot about J&K I don't know what does...

Not a Sheeple said...

For the sake of accuracy, Kate and Jon did not appear to be attending her father's church at the time of the sextuplet's birth. Their church at the time also did many things for them. I think sometimes it gets blended into all into one church effort. It was the church that helped them in their previous town that they left when the tups were about a year old to attend another larger church in that same area.

K.C. said...

Thank you for clearing that up Not a Sheeple. I assumed it was all one church since I only saw links to her father's church and a 'praise list' of things donated by her father's church on their old website. It can be viewed on Archive.org's Wayback Machine:
http://www.archive.org/web/web.php

Like Anon 10:42 mentioned, it would be nice if they would give a little back...

Anonymous said...

Actually “Not A Sheeple” the way I heard it Kate’s Dad’s church did quite a bit for the Gosslin Family. Putting an addition on their home in the first season, as well as cribs for tups and clothing. In fact Kate thru a hissy fit that the cribs didn’t match, and the clothes didn’t match, and that the family would much prefer cash donations in the future. This is behind the rift between Kate & her family and I think it speaks volumes on the kind of person Kate is.

Not a Sheeple said...

I'm not saying Kate's father's church didn't help them. I am saying that there were two churches involved in helping them not one.

joni>oc said...

You are absolutely right it is at least their 2nd church they are on now. As I mentioned things fell apart badly with Kate’s Dad church & it appears her parents were mortified at her behavior. Church #1 did a HUGE amount for them.

joni>oc said...

And I needed to add this was prior to the tups birth and immediately after their birth--a good part, if not all of the 1st season of J&K+8

Anonymous said...

I am amazed that the Gosselins have not realized that this gig cannot last forever. The recent alienation of family and friends seems to be an insight into Kate's real character. She has demonstrated such a heinous since of entitlement and shows no sign that she is going to change. It appears that TLC has continued to indulge her whims and wishes and now the monster (Kate) has been created and there is no turning back. This show will eventually run its course and Kate along with Jon will be left with nothing but the consequences of their choices.

Anonymous said...

Hi! I am new to this blog. My husband and I were discussing the fact that the tups are now pre-school age and soon can go off to pre-school or Kindergarten. Does anyone know if Kate plans to put them in school this fall? My husband and I were also thinking maybe she may decide to home school them. If she is out for attention this would be a good way to keep the attention, keep the show going, and perhaps a reason to up-size their house to include a classroom. Sorry if this has been discussed before. My youngest child (I have 4) is going to Kindergarten this year so Kindergarten has been on my mind lately.

Speaking of which, I was really baffled in the episode where the tups were using those "bingo stamps' to trace letters and Kate said it was an introductory of how to hold a pencil and form letters. They were 4 in this episode right? They don't know how to hold a pencil yet? Kate also said they didn't really know how to use siccors yet because she didn't let them use them very often. I really hope Kate starts to teach them writing skills soon as they will behind in Kindergarten if she doesn't. They should be using pencils and drawing on paper, scribbling and trying to form letters by themself.

Sorry if discussed already... newbie here. lol.

Karen
(My kids are 5, 6, 14, 16)

K.C. said...

Karen, Others also had opinions about the 'tups being a little behind. If you are interested in reading these opinions, I found them in this post: 'And Now For Something Completely Different'. The comments that apply begin at Anonymous (July 26, 2008 10:51 PM)

Anonymous said...

Confused about the blinds... Granted, the PAs did hang the blinds incorrectly, but I thought it was funny that Kate was so concerned about the lack of privacy the gaps between the blinds would allow, considering there used to be NO BLINDS AT ALL.