Aunt Jodi: The Tribe Has Spoken

While the Gosselin children may have many material "blessings", thanks to being exploited by their parents and complicit others, nothing can compare to their Aunt Jodi.

Jodi is married to Kevin Kreider -- Kate Gosselin's brother. Jodi and Kevin have four children of their own, but live near Jon and Kate and have been relied upon heavily to babysit the Gosselin children while Jon and Kate tend to the heavy demands on their time that frequently take them away from some or all of their children.

We have seen quite a bit of Jodi and her interaction with the Gosselin children, and although she is wonderful to behold on her own merits, when contrasted with her shrew of a sister-in-law, she seems even better. We've seen Jodi play with the children -- actually play with them in a natural, spontaneous way, with no tension about grass stains or melted ice cream. We've enjoyed the children cooking with her in the kitchen, playing dress-up, chilling in front of a video, going for walks around the neighborhood, etc.

Jodi seems to have this refreshing mixture of humor, grace, patience, gentleness, and above all an essential maternal nurturing that we feel starved for when watching the children under Kate's jurisdiction. But we've seen her ability to be stern, too, when Mady needed it, although even that situation she approached (physically) on Mady's level, on her knees and locking eyes with her niece and speaking firmly and directly.

Not only is Jodi a joy to watch, but when the children are in her care, they are like different people… we don't see the tension, the pathologies, the whining, the overall desperation displayed so often when it is only Kate herding them through the day. Many of us will never forget how relieved we felt when we saw sick little Joel finally getting a kind word, a rub on his back, a hug and some reassurance when he was feeling so ill... it helped remove the sting we felt at seeing that same little feverish boy berated for vomiting on his comforter and banished to the laundry room floor lest he add any more to Kate's laundry.

Now for the pale underbelly of this scenario. Before filming began for the Jon & Kate Plus 8 second season, Figure 8 Films wanted to pay Jodi for her role in the series. Not only for her babysitting time, of course, but also for the intrusion of the camera crew and equipment into her home... the disruption to her own home and family.

This never reached Jodi's awareness at the time because of Kate's response -- an adamant NO. Her reasoning? In summary and to paraphrase, 'No way! No one gets paid but us!'. The issue of remuneration for the Kreiders was dropped, with Jodi never being aware of it and continuing to help out with the children as she had been doing even back when Jon and Kate were nobodies and the children weren't the nationwide stars they have become; they were simply the nieces and nephews Jodi and Kevin adored.

Fast forward to Season 3, and this time Jodi was approached directly with the offer of a paying contract for continuing to do the show. By now Jodi had seen the scenes in which she was filmed aired on various episodes -- footage that included both Jon and Kate badmouthing her to the camera, characterizing her as an irresponsible ditz, saying condescending things about her way of handling the Gosselin children -- "She tries, bless her heart!".

To her credit, Jodi cared more about her relationship with her nieces and nephews than she did about what Jon and Kate had to say about her and, even though Kate AGAIN vetoed the idea of compensating Jodi, Jodi said that she loved her nieces and nephews and wanted to be in their lives regardless. She said that it wasn't about the money; as long as she could maintain a relationship with the Gosselin children she wanted to keep doing so.

This wasn't good enough for Kate, who was also suffering from the nagging realization that Jodi made Kate look pretty bad by comparison, so a third party was hired to provide the babysitting (and other) services and Jodi is seemingly no longer of use to Jon and Kate.

You know how they do that little ceremony at the end of each season of Survivor, where the remaining two or three players reminisce about all the players who are no longer in the picture? The list of players voted off of Jon and Kate's island continues to grow, with Jodi being only the most recent fatality.

I hope Jodi's replacement doesn't make Kate look bad or her days may already be numbered. I am 48 years old and I wish I had an Aunt Jodi. As much as I am going to miss seeing her on the show, I'm sure it can't compare to how much the children will miss having her in their lives.

Posted by Serena based upon information granted with permission by Jodi's sister, Julie.

124 comments:

FIONA said...

I am just shaking my head and wondering, trying so hard to understand what the G's think the rend result is going to be...

I assume this means the tups won't be seeing Jodi and Kevin as much. That is a huge loss for the kids...and I am sure to Jodi and Kevin. They get parenting, Jon and Kate do not.


The momentum is picking up fast folks...this is outrageous.

Thank-you Julie for speaking out. It only helps the children.

Anonymous said...

It is particularly hard to comment here because you are so close to the situation and I think hurt feelings are natural. If it makes it any better (which I'm sure it doesn't) I never thought they implied Jodi was a ditz, a push over, or irresponsible and I don't think anyone that watched would think that. I always thought Kate was implying that her children are wild and will do anything to trick an adult into doing what they want. I'm very sorry Jodi won't be on any more I like she and Kate both, because they were so different.

ek said...

I love Aunt Jodi. She is a saint to take on all those kids PLUS Kate's bullshit. It's probably better for her if Kate exiles her.

nsiteman said...

I feel badly for the Gosselin children as the loss of Aunt Jodi (and Uncle Kevin) is a great one. They seemed to be a quieting force in their young lives and since there is little to no other contact with family, I am sure that they will be greatly missed. While this entry focuses on Kate's role in the estrangement, I am sure that Jon is not entirely innocent. Jodi's sister's blog finally told Jodi's story. Once we hear the truth about Beth and Bob, I am sure that it will be a similar story

Anonymous said...

The whole situation is beyond sad. Kate uses those children not only for finanacial gain, but as weapons. What kind of person does those things?

I used to like Kate, but the more I've read and the more digging I've done, I cannot believe the cold selfishness of this woman.

Anonymous said...

I am very curious as to Kevin's response to all of this. We have seen that Kate and Kevin are close, and obviously Kevin and Jodi are married. I wonder if Kevin's relationship with Kate is suffering because of this.

Anonymous said...

Come on, Bananabethanna. Where are you?

WatchOverThem said...

Great job pulling this together for us on behalf of Julie, Serena. Julie is doing a good thing making her blog more public, along with this info, especially with the challenges that has brought her in the past.

Thank you Julie, for being a great sister and good friend to Jodi, one of my favorite "aunts"!

Angela said...

I'm really sorry to hear that we'll only see Aunt Jodi in the reruns. She was a breath of fresh air in the Gosselin madness. At least she won't have Queen Kate make her condescending remarks about her on camera any more.

lizzys said...

Thank you for being so honest. I am one who has always loved Jodi. My thoughts at the end of the ski trip when Jodi flew out to help the Gosselins home was that Beth was totally insulted by Kate. Anyway, that was my thoughts on the Beth situation. I do not believe that Beth previously arranged to leave early. In my opinion, Beth just took off with her daughter whan she could not "take Kate" anymore. And how wonderful was it for Jodi to leave her family and help out. I hope Kevin has had words with his sister.

Serena said...

In my opinion, Beth just took off with her daughter whan she could not "take Kate" anymore.

Actually, in that situation, Beth had to leave early because her daughter was having a birthday celebration back home. But yeah, Beth looked pretty disgusted with Kate when they were on their way back from the spa and Kate was blathering on in her usual way -- in fact Beth looked downright embarrassed for Kate at the things Kate was saying.

Anonymous said...

I hope that Figure 8 has figured out that the real story behind the Gosselin scam is getting out. It's the power of the Internet, and scams aren't as easy to continue. Bravo to Jodi's sister for refusing to allow her sister to be maligned.

Anonymous said...

Run Aunt Jodi, run! It's a shame that her relationship with the kids may suffer, but at least she'll be out of the range of fire from ungrateful Kate.

Jayne said...

When the J & K train derails, do you think they'll be able to pull another book out of their asses about "atonement" and "becoming better Christians" for the experience?

natalie said...

Jayne, Kate is so narcissistic that she may well come up with another book when her current scam is over and done. But in the second book, she will spin how everyone latched onto her family for their personal gravy train. They're at fault, NOT her!!!

Bicoastal said...

It will be interesting to see if the Gosselins attempt any legal action against Jodi's sister, Julie. I doubt they have grounds to sue UNLESS the statements contained in her blog are untrue; truth is an absolute defense to slander/libel.

The Gosselins are public figures -- of their own choosing. They've opted to be TV reality stars. It's way too late for them to claim privacy rights when the public posts unflattering opinions.

I also think the wheels are coming off the TLC/Figure 8/J&K+8 juggernaut. It will be interesting to see how TLC and the show's producers handle the ongoing questions about the truthfulness of their favorite parents.

The horse is out of the barn. And we aren't going away.

My3Girls said...

Its too bad that Jodi and J&K had this falling out. Hopefully they will be able to work it out. As a business decision for J&K+8 its a double edge sword. I think for the show to have legs beyond the next few years, the show will have to introduce new "characters" on the show to gain audience attention (this in addition to the family). So far they have done a good job (Jodi, Beth, etc) Obviously, Jodi was someone that clearly loved the family (esp. the kids). She was a great person to bring into the show regularly. If the stuff about Kate not wanting Jodi to get a contract with Discovery/TLC is true, its short sited of her since it wouldn't take from what they are paying J&K. Plus Jodi's role has been established on the show (caring, nurturing family member). On the other hand, all this Jodi stuff makes for great controversy, so more people will likely watch the show looking for clues or answers for what happened/happening to the relationship with Jodi and Kevin. The people who love, hate or are indifferent to Kate and John will watch to see what happens. Same with the Beth relationship. I think its a great twist to keep viewers watching. Remember, no reality show is real. Most of it ( if not all) is staged to some extent. This show is not different. I thoroughly enjoy the shows and the reactions it generates. I enjoy the blog and all the comments. Keep up the good work and keep digging. Would love to know if Beth is in the outs. Peace out.

Mama Kate said...

It is GREAT that this is all out in the open. A big Huzzah! to Julie for standing up for her sister and telling the real story. I can just see Jon and Kate's heads spinning when they read this - I hope it makes them think twice before screwing people over. Somehow, though, I doubt they will ever think twice about what they are doing.

Great job at making a synopsis of Julie's information!

Obinna said...

you really are not making too much sense mentioning that they are exploiting their kids by getting paid to give talks, I guess trying to ensure their future is taken care of is explotation. Plus, Free stuff only goes so far.

Mary Berry said...

I was wondering what Jodi thinks of Julie saying all of this. Is she ok with it? I can't imagine it not creating a bigger rift between her and J&K.

I am glad Julie is speaking the truth though. It needs to be heard. I would love to hear her thoughts about why the grandparents aren't in the Gosselins' lives.

Anonymous said...

I for one wonder how low Jon and Kate will stoop?

Will we one day see Jon in his closet doing a remote satellite appearance on Home Shopping Channel showing off his new Joy Mangano Huggable Hangers?

Anonymous said...

In my experience, the most CHRISTIAN and Bible thumping people can also be the biggest hypocrites. This negative press is going to bite jon and kate in the keester soon. Give Jodi her own show. Enough of J+K's self promotion as the worst parents on the TV already.

Anonymous said...

I can't figure out Kevin's role. He seems very nice and actually seems to work and support his family without relying on his cute kids for an income. I understand that Kate is his sister, but shouldn't he be angry on behalf of his wife? I would think that the first time he heard Kate and Jon discuss his wife in disparaging terms on national tv, it would be the last time his wife watched the kids.

Serena said...

The problem is that Kate is the lioness at the gate and it is she who controls access to the children. So no matter what Kevin and Jodi may think of her and how she treats Jodi, they (rightly so) suspend that feeling for the sake of their nieces and nephews.

If I saw my nieces and nephews being raised by a narcissistic shrew of a mother I would pretty much put up with whatever crap I had to in order to be a stable, loving influence in their lives. Jodi and Kevin are behaving like selfless adults, and the Gosselin children were benefitting from it.

Anonymous said...

Honest question (not meant to provoke, I just really want to know): I keep reading mentions of "bad press", is this really true? Are there articles or other media stories that are critical of the show/the Gosselins? And can I have links, I'd love to read them. I'm really not trying to be argumentative, I'm just a little confused, are J&K getting bad press or is this all bloggers and commentators?

moi said...

you really are not making too much sense mentioning that they are exploiting their kids by getting paid to give talks, I guess trying to ensure their future is taken care of is explotation. Plus, Free stuff only goes so far.

Or, or, a family who has ensured that they will have multiples via fertility treatments could actually take the responsibility for what they created, instead of expecting others to do so. Just a thought!

Anonymous said...

Are there articles or other media stories that are critical of the show/the Gosselins? And can I have links, I'd love to read them. I'm really not trying to be argumentative, I'm just a little confused, are J&K getting bad press or is this all bloggers and commentators?

Article: http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/s_334106.html


Blogger who is employed by and writes for the Reading Eagle, summarizing articles and presenting her opinion on them, which isnt what you asked for, I know, so I'm not trying to trick you here, but these and the comments will give you a good gauge for the local sentiments that have been held in that area for quite some time. If I remember correctly, there may even be a special appearance by Jon himself in one of the comments section :

http://internetservices.readingeagle.com/blog/mother/archives/2005/05/count_your_bles_1.html

http://internetservices.readingeagle.com/blog/mother/archives/2005/05/here_we_go_agai.html

Anonymous said...

Hmm, those are interesting but not really what I'm looking for. The column is only about Kate's desire for a nurse (very worthy of criticism), not the show. the other stuff is just more blogging.

I'm not a fan of J&K, Kate especially seems horrid, but I don't think the "bad press" thing is real, I'm surprised it's such a widely used phrase here. Comments from bloggers (not affilated with a news site) are not bad press. They are only opinions. Maybe valid opinions, but not bad press. I actually think J&K get very good press (like the Today Show).

This blog is interesting, but I don't really understand it's purpose. What do you all hope to achieve? Kate may not be my cup of tea, but I don't think she's a bad mother, though I see where your criticism comes from. Do you want the children taken away from her? Do you think they would be better off in foster care? Do you want to force reconciliations with family members? Do you think that would work?

Is this blog just meant as a place for everyone here to vent (perfectly reasonable) or do you hope it will propel some change, and if so what?

Anonymous said...

Does anyone have a link to Clairissa's "new" blog?

Serena said...

This blog is interesting, but I don't really understand it's purpose. What do you all hope to achieve?

That's a legitimate question, and I invite you to read the FAQ Frequently Asked Questions section located on the sidebar of our home page.

Serena said...

Does anyone have a link to Clairissa's "new" blog?

Clairissa reads here; if she wants her blog address published here we will wait for her to do it rather than doing it outselves.

Not trying to be smart, I just think it should come from her if she wants it here.

:)BE said...

An honest question, not trying to be rude or provoke, but how do you KNOW that the person writting all this information who "says" that she is Julie(Jodi's sister)is truly just that?

Everyone has access to the internet and making blogs. I just have a hard time taking what I read on the internet as 100% truth, espeically when the information is suposedly passed down from person to person.

Another question: Maybe I am in the dark on this one, but why do people think that the show is just one of Kate's scams?

I have been to one of the talking engagements and they did not mislead the audience into thinking that they were having financial problems. Yes, they talked about having financial hardship early on but anyone can make their own assumption that a family with a TV show has to be getting paid a pretty penny. So it wasn't like anyone was being lied to and giving money to help out a poor family in need, at least not at the speaking engagement we were at...just wanted to give my experience with that.

Anonymous said...

I've read the FAQ, and while it does a good job of stating why this blog exists, it doesn't answer what you hope to accomplish. Do you just want the show to stop so the children can have normal childhoods? Or do you think they should be raised by people other than their parents? I understand you're challenging "the exploitation of the Gosselin children", but what does that mean to you? Just cancellation?

Serena said...

how do you KNOW that the person writting all this information who "says" that she is Julie(Jodi's sister)is truly just that?

We have met with Julie in person, face to face, and have been able to verify to our complete satisfaction that she most definitely is Jodi's sister. We were skeptical when contact was first made a couple of months ago, but we no longer have any doubts. We also believe that what Jodi has told Julie is the truth.

We realize there will be those who don't share that belief, but that's the way things are and what can you do... believe or not, it's up to each person and we aren't working to "convince" anyone, only enlighten them with the information we have and trust.

By the way, for anyone interested, Julie has made another entry in her blog.

Maybe I am in the dark on this one, but why do people think that the show is just one of Kate's scams?

I don't know what this is referring to so I can't help you out with that one... unless you are referring to the frequent observation that the show is very scripted and contrived. Not sure if I'd call that a scam so much as misleading or disingenuous, labels which apply to all reality TV shows.

Serena said...

Do you just want the show to stop so the children can have normal childhoods? Or do you think they should be raised by people other than their parents? I understand you're challenging "the exploitation of the Gosselin children", but what does that mean to you? Just cancellation?

We want the children to stop being forced to live in a fishbowl on a studio set with a hectic and demanding production schedule breathing down their necks all the time.

We want them to have the same dignity that all children have by having a safe, private sanctuary where they can pee, poop, barf, bathe, and cry without cameramen watching and cameras preserving it all on film.

We want child labor laws to recognize that children in reality shows deserve the same protection that children in scripted shows have had for years -- including a limitation on the number of hours permitted to be spent in front of the cameras each day AND salaries paid directly to each child with legal protection on that money so the children don't reach the age of 18 with nothing financial to show for all their work.

We want the public to have the entire, truthful version of Jon and Kate's current situation so that, if they choose to donate, they are doing so under full disclosure.

This blog represents just one arm of a multi-faceted effort.

FIONA said...

Serena,
I think your last post as to what this site wants for the kids needs to the header on your blog. It might stop some of the hater, jealous comments. It is clearly out there for all to see.

Good work...keep it up. If there is anything I can do personally to help, in any way...let me know. I have some time to share.

Fiona

Anonymous said...

Serena,

I understand about not posting the blog, but just curious: how do you know Clairissa reads here? I assume she's also made contact with you?

Serena said...

Good work...keep it up. If there is anything I can do personally to help, in any way...let me know. I have some time to share.

Thanks Fiona... when you have a moment, would you mind emailing me at serenaleighbell@yahoo.com? Thanks!

I understand about not posting the blog, but just curious: how do you know Clairissa reads here? I assume she's also made contact with you?

Clairissa has posted here. :)

funkycatt said...

Just curious, why would kate not want jodi and her family to be paid? Assumbably, they are doing exactly what the gosslins are, ie allowing a film crew in their home and allowing that footage on tv.

laura linger said...

I will miss Jodi's positivity and gentle spirit on the show. All of the Gosselin kids seemed just crazy about her. What a shame.

my3girls said...

I'm fairly new to your blog as well as to the show itself.. just wondering.. who is Clarissa and why spend so much time talking about her?

Serena said...

I'm fairly new to your blog as well as to the show itself.. just wondering.. who is Clarissa and why spend so much time talking about her?

Clairissa is Kate's sister. I haven't seen anyone spending time talking about her. Someone asked for her blog address and then you asked who she is. That's barely a blip on this blog

my3girls said...

Fair enough.. I have only seen Clarissa mentioned in today's comments. I just sensed some tone in the comment and was curious. Thanks for your answer.

sabrinasmom said...

If anyone questions how much these kids are "working" - in the latest episode, Kate HERSELF explains why there is a need for new blinds. They are in constant production and there is not enough time to even edit the insipid episodes. I think the camera in the kids room is "insurance" so they can make episodes out of that footage as well. I hope Jon's motivation for going to the gym is because he plans to run off with his trainer!

Anonymous said...

I think Kate doesn't want anyone else paid because she doesn't want them to have bigger roles and outshine "the queen bee". Kate can't stand when others get attention and she doesn't. It's always about Kate, Kate, Kate.

laura linger said...

Yeah, sabrinasmom...you're absolutely right. I caught that comment about being constantly in production and not even having time to edit the episodes, too.

Can you imagine the chaos in which those children must live?

Anonymous said...

sabrinasmom: Kate said they now had to move so fast from taping to air that they didn't have time for post production. I don't know that the statement means their filming schedule is any more than it was before, just that they have less time for the actual production part (editing, etc). This makes sense if you think about it, they have been taking the newest footage and putting it out. Some of the most recent episodes have been less than one month from happening to episode. I don't think they are necessarily filming more, just trying to move it out faster.

Mama Kate said...

That truly sickens me that the children have cameras in their rooms and that Kate readily admits to the fact that their lives are a constant hustle and bustle of cameras in their faces. It is almost as if she wants us to feel BAD for her that she lives that way. Well nope, sorry Kate. I don't feel one iota sorry for you. The children, yes. You? Not so much. She ought to be ashamed of herself. Those little children must be exhausted.

I hope this sideshow comes to a screeching halt - and FAST. For the sake of those kids.

Anonymous said...

Kate HERSELF explains why there is a need for new blinds. They are in constant production and there is not enough time to even edit the insipid episodes.

I don't understand, how does being in constant production warrent needing new blinds? I saw her demanding that they drill and vaccuum at the same time, but missed that explanation about how production necessitated blinds.

Anonymous said...

They needed the new blinds because they don't have time to edit the film. The lighting coming in from outside makes the film washed out. That can be fixed in editing. Kate said they are moving from film to episode so fast that production asked them to put up blinds to filter the light to avoid the washed out/needs post production work. The scheduling hasn't increased, just the speed from filming to air.

Anonymous said...

If anyone questions how much these kids are "working" - in the latest episode, Kate HERSELF explains why there is a need for new blinds. They are in constant production and there is not enough time to even edit the insipid episodes.

What episode was this in? I must have missed it completely.

sabrinasmom said...

Mea culpa - she did say "increased production" - but I took that as the need for more material as well. If there is such a "need" for new episodes - I assumed that the camera crews would be there more. However scripted this show is - those kids are not trained actors, and it does IMO, take time to manipulate them into doing what "they planned" to do.

Atheist in a mini van. said...

Bananabethanna where are you?
Bethanna is licking her wounds. After her last post here, we talked and she said she'd been approached by "someone in the Gosslein circle" and confronted about her post here. Add that to the doubt here (which I think was justified because it's a good thing to be skeptical) and I know she's a bit gun-shy.

Anonymous said...

Clairissa has posted here. :)

Can you point us to where? (Or does she post under a pseudonym?)

Also, I'm curious as to what exactly Jon's role in all of this is. The fact that he's lashed out at anyone who says anything negative about Kate online (even if it's true) suggests to me that he might be complicit in all of this; however, I wonder if it's possible Kate keeps most of her machinations a secret from him?

Serena said...

I think it's up to Clairissa to out herself if that's what she wants.

Serena said...

Bethanna is licking her wounds. After her last post here, we talked and she said she'd been approached by "someone in the Gosslein circle" and confronted about her post here. Add that to the doubt here (which I think was justified because it's a good thing to be skeptical) and I know she's a bit gun-shy.

The information in Bethanna's posts jived with the information we have from those whom we know are "in the circle".

There were plenty of us who had no doubts about what she had to say.

Anonymous said...

I think it's up to Clairissa to out herself if that's what she wants.

Nevermind--I found it (both the blog, and her comment).

katja said...

You are right, Serena. Bethanna is only one voice of many that are all telling the same story about the greedy Gosselins.

Alicia said...

If everyone is so concerened about family why are these blogs even being posted. This is their PRIVATE matters. I can not imagine that Aunt Jodi would approve of anyone not even her sister airing her or the Gossleins dirty laundry all over the internet for negibors, family and friends to see. I assume from the show that Jodi is much more mature than that and if her sister was speaking out she would say somthing to her to make her stop. You have to remember these children all go to school, there friends parents, teachers and peers can all access these internet sites. Its terrible that someone would even try to air dirty laundry true or false.

katy said...

Its terrible that someone would even try to air dirty laundry true or false.


There are times when keeping silent is MORE TERRIBLE than speaking out. Kate if you are reading this....it was wrong what you did to Jodi. You should be deeply ashamed and kissing her feet for forgiveness.

Serena said...

Its terrible that someone would even try to air dirty laundry true or false.

Not if keeping that dirty laundry a secret helps perpetuate falsehoods.

Robert said...

alicia
Its terrible that someone would even try to air dirty laundry true or false.

Huh? Private matters?

I'm thinking if you are concerned about private matters that having a house full of cameras capturing footage that is broadcast to millions of homes isn't really the path you would take.

Yes, friends, family teachers, etc. can read these sites. Let's be sure to keep the reality of this "reality" show from them.

As for family members and dirty laundry, Kate has 2 washing machines full at all times it seems. Apparently they have an extra spin cycle built in as well.

Barbara said...

I am truly amazed to read all this. I am still very curious, as I suppose are a lot of folks, about the grandparents and other siblings. Everything is couched in secrecy. I do agree that they deserve some privacy, but they opened their lives up by going on Reality TV. Does anyone know what is really going on with the grandparents and siblings of Jon and Kate?

Thanks everyone,
Barbara

Anonymous said...

J & K do a pretty good job of airing their own dirty laundry for all of America to see every week. Complete with cameras and couch confessionals. Their intro does not say, 'its a private life, but its our life', it says; 'it might be a crazy life, but its R life'. And we all know WHO the crazy IS!

Serena said...

As for family members and dirty laundry, Kate has 2 washing machines full at all times it seems. Apparently they have an extra spin cycle built in as well.

Heh. Robert you're a hoot. :)

hezbree said...

In response to Sabrinasmom, who said:

I hope Jon's motivation for going to the gym is because he plans to run off with his trainer!

Surely you don't wish for a breakup of anyone's marriage! Regardless of what you may feel about Jon and Kate and their parenting, I find it spiteful that you would wish infidelity upon them.

Anonymous said...

Jon's not going to run off with anyone. He rides this full-speed gravy train too.

Anonymous said...

I am so glad to have found this blog. I truly believe the truth behind the Gosselins greed has to come out. I feel really bad for these kids. Love donations for what? There are many families out there that would be more deserving of a show than the Gosselins. Hell Kate does nothing by herself so how can she give us parenting tips>? I appauld Jodi's sister for telling the truth and stopping the Madness if especially for the poor kids.

The Truth Will Set You Free said...

"You have to remember these children all go to school, there friends parents, teachers and peers can all access these internet sites. Its terrible that someone would even try to air dirty laundry true or false."


Do you really think this information would come as a surprise to anyone who knows them? We don't need to read about it on the internet. It's our "reality". The neighbors can't wait for them to move out. They've basically cut off all family from both sides. They have no friends. Kate treats everyone she meets as if they are below her, and she burns every bridge on her way. Family, friends, neighbors and anyone else who has crossed her path already know the truth. If she doesn't care how she treats people on camera for the world to see, do you really think she treats people in her "real" life any differently?

FIONA said...

TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE...

Do you know if Kate has sought out professional medical help for her anxiety and other issues? Is she aware that she is ill and could indeed funtion better, and feel better?

It is hard to blame someone completely who I am 100% certain is emotionally/mentally ill.

Does Jon see it...?

Thank-you and please let the blog know if there is ANYTHING we can do as a group.

Sincerely,

Fiona

NewMom08 said...

Thank you Truth, and thank you for your blog. It has been enlightening to say the least. I know I personally didn't want to believe what was out there about J+K, but the more I watched, the more I began to think that Kate's behavior off camera was probably worse than on camera, and that scared me honestly. Lump that in with the disturbing things that creep out here and there and the total annihilation of all family input and interest, and you have a Kate fortress in "Central Pennsylvania". The more outside input she can keep out and the more insular she can keep things, the better for her. I just wonder WHO it is that she talks to in an effort to feed her narcissism? Her agent, publisher, 'cause I don't think she and Jon do a whole lotta conversatin' honestly.
Qurstion for you: Did Kevin and Jodi still maintain contact with C&K (mom and dad)while taking part in the lives of J+K or was that strained as well.
So many people have given up so much for this family and it is sooo sad that they've been so crushed by it. No one has the right to do that to another person.

Serena said...

Lump that in with the disturbing things that creep out here and there and the total annihilation of all family input and interest, and you have a Kate fortress in "Central Pennsylvania".

I think it's more like a compound. When they move into their new digs, they should display a sign reading, "Gosselin Family Compound".

NewMom08 said...

Can they move, or are they moving?
I would think that big slungin' new digs would make the church lecture circuit a bit less profitable.....
But hey!, they don't have to worry about moving too far away from family now do they?

Hope that money keeps them warm at night.
Organic chef: check
Money deposited in cash: check
cardboard recycled from free shtuff: check
kids in attic: check
kids in bedrooms: check
kid in basement: check
People starting to get it: check check and maybe check mate. Lets hope.

NewMom08 said...

Serena:
Yeap, I've always wondered how they keep people from just knocking on their door everyday?

Must be like a fortress.

Anonymous said...

IMO,The ONLY person Kate has to confirm all her wonderful qualities is Kate HERSELF which includes her various multiple personalities. The personalities that actually believe she is a nurturing mother, a dedicated and supportive wife, a loyal daughter and sister, an inspiring author, intellectual speaker, comedian, and last but certainly not least extroidanary for birthing two sets of multiples!

Anonymous said...

So much has come to light over just the past day or two about the J and K scam - and how they have treated their families and, more specifically, that sweetheart of an Aunt Jodi. It makes me sick! It made me even sicker when I remembered an episode from a while back when Kate (and dead ass Jon-boy) created their "Gosselin Family Mission Statement." It was written up on a large poster board and the main gist of their family mission statement is to "teach people about and spread God's love in the world." I can't remember exactly what else was in it, but this was already quite enough for me!! So - it's OK to be a totally evil, narcissistic bitch and treat good people like dirt under your feet, banish them when you feel they have outlived their usefulness to you, and be deceitful and manipulative??!! And how about pimping out your own children for mega bucks so you can go to the spa and have a personal chef prepare organic meals?! If people are so stupid not to see her for what she truly is and she does not go down soon, then Karma will just take care of her at some point. Notice I say HER - I wish those kids only the best and I pray they they will be able to have normal lives even though J and K are screwing them over. All this just makes my blood boil!

Anonymous said...

This explains narcissistic personality disorder - this is Kate's problem. (Fiona, check this out.)

www.mayoclinic.com/health/narcissistic-personality-disorder/DS00652

FIONA said...

This new nanny/helper that the kids are going to be spending most of their weekends with...is she just some hired hand off the street?

How is this transition going to affect the vomiter's...? Will Mady try and be more manipulative with this new person, who BTW Kate, "doesn't love you kids"...(what happened to they love us, and we love them) didn't work so well for ya huh?

Seriously, this is really going to be hard on the kids. I am sure they felt very secure and happy at Jodi's house. How much more difficult is this going to be?

Jodi, I am sure you are thinking the same thing. I know you wish you were the one still watching them.

FIONA said...

Don't you wonder what must be going thru the new helpers mind? She is going to be snarked at, barked at, and eaten alive by Kate Gosselin. I bet she is going to make a ton of $$$$, too!!!!

Anonymous said...

Think about the book that woman will be able to write. Wonder if there will be any people interested enough by then to read it. OK, it could take Nanny Not-Kate only about three weeks to call it quits.

Anonymous said...

Just makes me wonder now who will hug Joel when he's sick, who will look Mady in the eye and let her know under no circumstances is her behavior gonna be allowed, or who will draw butterflies with chalk and decorate the driveway, we all know "Mom" didn't do it, too bad for the kids they are the ones that are losing in this situation.

Anonymous said...

watching jon and kate and loved that show i stumbled across this blog and read things i never knew that was going on it really sickens me !!! shes really makes me mad (kate) shes money hungry and they should stop the show to teach her a lesson... jodi has been a really good supporter of her and fights happen between people but this is ridicilious!! i dont even want to watch this show any more because of her selfish ways and there like 4 now there like any normal children ... we all know how to raise children.. anyway not to get off the beaten path.. if i were jodi i would not baby sit her children anymore to let kate know just how much she needs people in her life who are caring and are family.. she should be ashamed ..

FIONA said...

Anonymous said...
Just makes me wonder now who will hug Joel when he's sick, who will look Mady in the eye and let her know under no circumstances is her behavior gonna be allowed, or who will draw butterflies with chalk and decorate the driveway, we all know "Mom" didn't do it, too bad for the kids they are the ones that are losing in this situation.

Well thanks for getting me choked up!!!!

I know....Aunt Jodi is a huge loss. I bet she will do whatever she can to stay involved tho...if it means walking down the street to take them off Kate's hands...Kate would probably welcome it...or when it is on Kate's terms.

green said...

I believe those children are so lucky to have Aunt Jodi and Uncle Kevin, they are very good influences. I saw different children when they were with Aunt Jodi. They were calmer more relaxed. They got to do fun little projects, play with their cousins, and take walks around the neighborhood or play outside. Not only will I not forget how she comforted Joel when he was sick, but I will also remember how she kindly thanked him every time he came up to her to give her “coffee”. It will probably be difficult and somewhat awkward but I commend Aunt Jodi for being willing to find ways stay involved in those children’s lives.

Anonymous said...

I'm not too surprised that the children didn't display their attention-seeking 'pathologies' at Aunt Jodi's house. Aunt Jodi isn't their mother, and therefore they aren't desperate for her attention. It's the mother children cling to, love and want to be noticed by.

Regardless of how wonderful we, and Aunt Jodi's sister, think Aunt Jodi is, she can't ever replace their mother, she will never be loved by the Gosselin children like they will love their mother, and to intimate that she should be the nurturer and caregiver, and replace Kate, is disturbing.

They chill and relax at Aunt Jodi's house because it's different then home. Children behave differently outside fo the home because they are not as familiar and comfortable with the rules, boundaries and social interaction. At home they know what they can get away with, they know what their consequences will be, and they know what buttons to push.

I personally am getting a little tired of hearing how great Aunt Jodi is and what a better mother Aunt Jodi is. I wouldn't want a family member with that kind of attitude around either. Especially one who calls her sister to complain and then has no problem having that sister talk her up and talk the mother of the tups she supposedly adores down.

This goes waaay beyond thinking that 24/7 filming is bad for the children. This is openly and publicly criticizing family members for personality traits and flaws. I don't care if you put yourself out there for the public- I would never expect my family to talk crap about me if I ever were on a show. Especially to say how much better they would be at raising my children.

If Aunt Jodi didn't care about the moeny then why did she send her husband to confront Kate? Was she trying to make the point then that she knew, and wanted Kate to know? I seriously don't understand what Jodi hoped to accomplish by that passive-aggressive move. I wanted you to knwo I shoudl be getting paid, and that you're stopping it, but I don't care about the money. Then what do you care about? Being a bitch?


And the more someone protests " I'm only doign this for the children, and because I want the truth out there" the more someone looks guilty. You said the 'truth' Truth, isn't it time to move on and quit commentig on every episode and talk crap about Kate? You add no truth anymore, just useless, bitter opinions.

Get off my tv Jodi, and good riddance.

Anonymous said...

If Aunt Jodi didn't care about the moeny then why did she send her husband to confront Kate? Was she trying to make the point then that she knew, and wanted Kate to know? I seriously don't understand what Jodi hoped to accomplish by that passive-aggressive move. I wanted you to knwo I shoudl be getting paid, and that you're stopping it, but I don't care about the money. Then what do you care about? Being a bitch?


I'm a little unclear about your objection to Kevin calling his sister on her lying behavior. Why would it be wrong to insist that after a year of lying to him and his wife, Kevin would demand the truth about the payment offer? I think I must respectfully disagree that letting Kate know that they were aware of her behavior in forbidding payment to Jodi was wrong.

I guess I can't see any way that Kate could justify her behavior -- and even less can she justify deliberately lying to Jodi and Kevin about who made the decision to deny them payment. If Kate was so sure that her decision was correct, morally, ethically, and in promotion of family values -- why not speak the truth and tell them her reasoning.

If anyone was duplicitous, if anyone was greedy and egotistical, frankly it was Kate. The payment to Jodi was not coming out of Kate's pocket - so you have to ask, why not pay Jodi? Why "fire" Jodi from the show. Why should Kevin and Jodi permit the continuation of Kate's behavior.

To be honest, I think they have shown incredible restraint. Seems like the whole Kreider family could blow the lid off the facade that Kate has constructed. I imagine that love of the children has kept Kevin and Jodi from telling the "real" story.

The Truth Will Set You Free said...

Anonymous 7:14--Jon, is this you? It almost sounds a little more intelligent than what I would expect. However, some of these phrases are word for word what was used in some of the harassing comments I received on Facebook and TWoP. Could it possibly be Kate?--sounds a lot like her "twisted" logic to me. I appreciate that fact that you toned it down, but you knew it would never be posted if you went as far as you did when the comments weren't being moderated.

"I'm not too surprised that the children didn't display their attention-seeking 'pathologies' at Aunt Jodi's house. Aunt Jodi isn't their mother, and therefore they aren't desperate for her attention. It's the mother children cling to, love and want to be noticed by."

And it's their mother who isn't providing that for them. I'm not saying Kate doesn't love them, I'm just saying that she isn't "hands on" and the kids do crave her attention.

If Kate were so confident about her choices and her "personality traits", then why would she feel so threatened by other's opinions about Jodi? Kate has chosen not to censor herself on TV, so EVERYONE already knows her personality. I haven't told them anything they haven't seen with their own eyes.

Why can't the kids also love their aunt? I don't think anyone thinks another family member can replace a mother in the kid's eyes. I think they just want their own mother to treat them differently.

"Regardless of how wonderful we, and Aunt Jodi's sister, think Aunt Jodi is, she can't ever replace their mother, she will never be loved by the Gosselin children like they will love their mother, and to intimate that she should be the nurturer and caregiver, and replace Kate, is disturbing."

I think you're missing the point. I agree that no one can replace someone's mother, but I also know that no one can hurt a child, emotionally and mentally, as their own mother. That's what I find so disturbing. Kate, on her own admission, says that she provides for her children in "other ways". I was just glad to know that the kids did have someone in their life who was nurturing.

"If Aunt Jodi didn't care about the moeny then why did she send her husband to confront Kate?"

First of all, they were told to keep it a secret. If the only thing they cared about was money, don't you think it would have made more sense to go behind their backs and make a deal? They didn't know what to think and they didn't want to believe all they were told was true.

Secondly, knowing Kevin and what he knows about Kate, there is NO WAY he would let Jodi talk to Kate about it. Kevin would never put Jodi in the position to ask Kate something like that. Kevin and Kate are siblings. I don't see anything wrong with Kevin talking to Kate. Kevin has also been involved, although he isn't shown on camera as much as Jodi.

"You said the 'truth' Truth, isn't it time to move on and quit commentig on every episode and talk crap about Kate?"

I have actually defended her here. I let everyone know that she did spend their bday with them. I could have let everyone believe that she was gone for the speaking engagement, but I didn't.

I'm sure that's exactly what you want, because there's so much more that you don't want people to find out about.

Anonymous said...

I think it's extremely sad that Jodi's role in the children's lives has been limited. I thought she was wonderful with them.

I can easily believe that Kate didn't want her there because she made Kate look bad but then almost anyone would make her look bad, wouldn't they.

It's the children's loss, sadly.

AG said...

Anonymous 7:14, you sound like Jon and/or Kate.

You said: "Regardless of how wonderful we, and Aunt Jodi's sister, think Aunt Jodi is, she can't ever replace their mother, she will never be loved by the Gosselin children like they will love their mother, and to intimate that she should be the nurturer and caregiver, and replace Kate, is disturbing."

Why would it be "disturbing?" Putting the show aside for minute, I think it's dangerous to think that children can only love their biological mother in that special maternal way. There are plenty of adopted children and adults who love their adoptive mothers as their own. People with crappy moms bond with other maternal figures like an Aunt, teacher, Grandmother, coach, etc.

And in context of the show - look at how Joel was treated by Kate and Jodi separately when he was sick and vomitting. Again I ask, why would it be "disturbing" for him to bond with Jodi or *gasp* love her more than his mom when his mom does cruel things like put him on the laundry room floor and close the door while the appliances are running.

You also said: "This goes waaay beyond thinking that 24/7 filming is bad for the children. This is openly and publicly criticizing family members for personality traits and flaws."

Oh? Sort of like the open and public criticizing of family members that you do to your own children on your show?? Let's make a list of the personality traits you've said about Mady and Joel, for starters.

Anonymous said...

I have to say, this is getting really, really sad. I wonder if Jon and especially Kate are having any regrets that the situation has gone this far. And I also wonder if Jodi's sister (whose intentions I believe are quite sincere) regrets taking the situation to this level.

There are kids involved here. And I'm not referring to the "show" or the "filming" or such right now. I'm talking about kids who have to live in the same neighborhood, go to the same school and interact in the same community.

This can't be easy on them. One of my kids is the same age as Mady and Cara, and believe me, they are well aware of what's going on. The 'tups, probably not so much, but they know something has changed because Aunt Jodi and Beth are no longer around.

Jon, Kate....if you are reading this (and I know you are) do what you have to do to remedy this situation for the sake of YOUR kids, Beth's kids and aunt Jodi's kids (because I'd like to think that YOU are as important to their kids as they are to yours).

It's not too late to repair this, for the sake of ALL the kids involved.

I think I have to leave this board, it's just too heartbreaking.

-anon

NewMom08 said...

Anon 7:14 (J+K)
I think a guilty conciense may be at work and clouding your ability to understand what the family members who have posted here are saying. TRUTH: If I may:
I don't think that anyone EVER said that Kate COULDN'T be a good, even great mom to the kids. I think that what people are concerned about and sad about is that she CHOOSES not to be a good or great parent. No one is perfect, but you know....most parents, even for all the "moeny" in the world,or Gymboree clothes freebies, would not call their kids names or ridicule them or psychologically needle them. That is over the line.
Reading "TRUTH's" blog, one has to wonder, the gum was discovered at Jodi's. IMAGINE how twisted and psychotic it must've been for Collin to have his mother "recreate" the gum finding incident at home and then threaten to throw away his lovey (the bear). And the way she spoke to both he and Mady about it....nothing says love like yelling in your kids faces, right?

I totally agree with the PP who said that K+J ought to be kissing the a** of the entire Kreider/Gosselin clan for not blowing the roof off of this whole farce. The fact that they have not speaks volumes about their class and character.

Anonymous said...

I wonder what would happen if I emailed the gosselins at their website.

Seriously.. I seeth when I see this show now.

Anonymous said...

Jon will hit the delete button on a negative email so Kate won't see it. He said this on air. Must be part of what he does in that closet every day.

Anonymous said...

Jon is NOT in the closet all day. He is taking care of the family all day and doing everything for those kids.

Kortni said...

This comment is very telling:

If Aunt Jodi didn't care about the moeny then why did she send her husband to confront Kate? Was she trying to make the point then that she knew, and wanted Kate to know? I seriously don't understand what Jodi hoped to accomplish by that passive-aggressive move. I wanted you to knwo I shoudl be getting paid, and that you're stopping it, but I don't care about the money. Then what do you care about? Being a bitch?

This is all just my opinion but...

I believe it is quite clear why Kate was approached. Kevin and Jodi felt hurt--Kate is not just family but also a friend. It was brought to Kate's attention because Kevin and Jodi didn't want to believe it was true, however; if it was true they wanted to know why Kate would do something like that. At that point most people in Kate's position would have explained one way or the other. Mentioning that they deserved to get paid has no bearing on why Kate was approached, they were just telling her how they felt about it. Like Truth said, if it was just about money they would have signed and never mentioned it. The fact that you "seriously don't understand what Jodi hoped to accomplish" speaks volumes. It would be very sad and lonely to live without relationships. Christians believe God put us here to have and experience truthful/loving relationships with one another, right? That being said, people, (in general), are very forgiving. It's never too late to admit that you are wrong and ask for forgiveness.

Again, this is all just my opinion.

sabrinasmom said...

If Aunt Jodi didn't care about the moeny (sic) then why did she send her husband to confront Kate? Was she trying to make the point then that she knew, and wanted Kate to know? I seriously don't understand what Jodi hoped to accomplish by that passive-aggressive move. I wanted you to knwo (sic) I shoudl (sic) be getting paid, and that you're stopping it, but I don't care about the money. Then what do you care about? Being a bitch?

Wow. Missed the mark by a long shot. I don't think by sending Kevin, the move was passive-aggressive, I think it was done because he is her sibling. He can relate to her more. What were they trying to accomplish? Maybe salvaging a relationship. That says a lot - a majority of their family members on both sides, it seems could care less. Forgive me, if I am quoting her incorrectly - but Clairissa describes a "Person A" "Person B" situation and she says something to the effect, of however much "Person A" means to her, she cannot have a relationship with her because she is "toxic".

Serena said...

Forgive me, if I am quoting her incorrectly - but Clairissa describes a "Person A" "Person B" situation and she says something to the effect, of however much "Person A" means to her, she cannot have a relationship with her because she is "toxic".

Just to clarify -- Clairissa said that Kate forced her to choose between having a relationship with Kate, or having a relationship with their parents (Charlene and Kenton Kreider). Anguished over having to choose one or the other Clairissa chose her parents. She didn't want to give up Kate but felt Kate was "toxic".

Anonymous said...

I don't care about the immediate family situation. I have been around long enough to know that everybody is right and everybody is wrong. Including Good Jodi.

NewMom08 said...

Anon 9:30pm:
No one is saying anyone is perfect, but you gotta admit, lying to a family member via omission is pretty wrong. There are two sides to every story; but it is obvious that the victim here is Jodi.

Truth:
I read GumGate Part Deux.
I have to say I caught a rerun of the show the other day as I was doing housework and heard the "they're getting tired of going to Jodi's..." It really took me aback. That sounds like a set up for things to come....

Anonymous said...

IMO, and I totally agree that the response by Kate of, 'you seriously dont understand what Jodi hoped to accomplish' speaks volumes to her true self serving and hypocritical nature. Kate sees absolutely nothing wrong with using and exploiting her very own children to 'accomplish' her self serving agenda. The children SERVE a valuable purpose to Kate and are nothing more then a means to HER ( and Jon's) end. While it is true that no one knows the exact details of what went on between, J & K and Aunt Jodi , however, the exact details of what happened arent required to get an understanding of Kate's agenda with respect to her children and J & K + 8 the reality show. Obviously, Aunti Jodi and her husband did not acquire all they have and where they are today , monetarily and otherwise as a result of appearances on the reality show. For that reason, IMO Aunt Jodi's intention of wanting to be a part of the show was in the best interst of the children. I also suspect that per the viewer feedback, Kate felt threatened by the loving and nurturing persona that Aunt Jodi brings to the show and is merely using the issue of 'compensation' as a way to ACCOMPLISH her ultimate goal of removing Aunt Jodi from the show. Perhaps Kevin approaching Kate had everything to do with salvaging the family relationship and nothing to do with the issue of $$ or the reality show. But for Kate, EVERYTHING is about the show. The preservation of her ego and self serving greed. She will go to every length to disregard and eliminate anyone, including FAMILY that attempts to, in her mind, sabatoge her everything. In the infamous and very telling words of Kate herself, "you can stand with me or against me". As the 'seasons' progress, there will be no family left in the Gosselin's every day lives, except for their TLC family consisting of production and camera crew!

Manda said...

If Aunt Jodi didn't care about the moeny then why did she send her husband to confront Kate? Was she trying to make the point then that she knew, and wanted Kate to know? I seriously don't understand what Jodi hoped to accomplish by that passive-aggressive move. I wanted you to knwo I shoudl be getting paid, and that you're stopping it, but I don't care about the money. Then what do you care about? Being a bitch?

All the talk about this and beyond this is really pointless. I don't understand where the notion that "Jodi sent Kevin to confront Kate" came from.

Seems to me just words misconstrued to incite or paint an inaccurate portrait of Jodi in this, maybe in hopes that that idea can be solidified as fact and stick. There's nothing written anywhere to suggest this is what happened. Unlike Kate, I don't get the feeling Kevin is Jodi's 'errand boy'. A unified team, watching out for each other maybe, but suggesting Jodi "sent" Kevin to do her dirty work in a passive-aggressive way is totally unfounded.

Linda said...

Manda -

Just why should we take YOUR word for this rather than this poster?

I have no beef against Aunt Jodi or Kate or Jon or Kevin? But really why should we take YOUR word
for this.

And really . . . what does this have to do with your supposed mission of advocating for reality TV child stars?

Serena said...

Just why should we take YOUR word for this rather than this poster?

It's not our job to convince anyone to believe us. Every reader decides whom to believe; we are simply telling what we have learned and what WE believe. If you don't believe it, that's your business and none of our concern.

And really . . . what does this have to do with your supposed mission of advocating for reality TV child stars?

Not everything published on this blog is part of our mission. Some of it is humor, some of it is exposition, some of it is opinion.

NewMom08 said...

Honestly, all this nonsense about who sent who to do what...REALLY.
The bottom line here is that continuing that discussion is nothing more than a diversionary tactic away from placing the responsibility for this problem where is belongs. KATE didn't want Jodi paid. Regardless of whether Jodi would've taken it or not, isn't it nice to know the offer exists? KATE lied about it and didn't tell Jodi for two "seasons" (we don't live our lives according to seasons...). Even if Jodi "sent" her husband...SO WHAT. That doesn't take away from the real problem here.....
I dont' know about anyone else, but my husband and I work as a team. Its not a free for all here, things are done together...and it seems like Kevin and Jodi may have a partnership as well.....if Kevin wanted to confront his sister, and wanted to spare his wife, or if Jodi asked him to do so because she just couldn't bring herself to, SO WHAT?
Stop diverting attention from the issue that is at hand....the LACK OF RESPECT AND LOVE that was shown from one part of a family to another. That is the sad thing. And it does nothing to "spread God's love."
JMHO.

Anonymous said...

I have a question for anyone who might know.

I caught the rerun the other day where Kate mentions how the kids are "getting tired of going to Aunt Jodi's" ...apart from it being sort of a gauche, tacky and less than grateful thing to say about someone who was selflessly serving Kate and her kids, I wondered if that part was there when the episode originally aired. In other words, was that gripe always there or has it been voiced over for the rerun? (hence setting the stage for Jodi's disappearance and appearance of paid help to watch the kids "in their own home".??

Manda said...

Linda,

My word, as you put it, is not stating anything as fact, as to the way in which this meeting between Kevin and Kate went down. The poster in question, Anonymous 7/09 @ 7:14 made the statement: “…why did she send her husband to confront Kate? Was she trying to make the point then that she knew, and wanted Kate to know? I seriously don't understand what Jodi hoped to accomplish by that passive-aggressive move.”

This poster has come to that conclusion, and it could be their opinion, which is fine. If they feel it was a ‘confrontation’ or that Jodi displayed behavior consistent with a ‘passive aggressive move’, fine, but I have read nothing in Julie’s statement of the facts to indicate this was the way it went. It seems this person putting the spin of their opinion on it solidified it as how the story was told. Beyond that at least one other poster calls into question the 7:14 tone, i.e., “I'm a little unclear about your objection to Kevin calling his sister on her lying behavior.”

I’m just clearing up the fact that no where have we been told Jodi sent Kevin to confront Kate. Again, if that person wants to take that away from it on their own, fine, but don’t turn their opinion of it into fact.

As to your last question, if I am not confusing you with another poster and pardon me if I am, this has been asked by you before and answered, quite succinctly, by myself. This site may delve into and branch out on other topics at any given time, however, all of the issues on this website ultimately come full circle to the children. In this instance, a positive, loving presence in their lives has been pushed aside and there are legitimate questions about how that could affect the children, both immediately and in the long run as they learn to accept, love and trust people in their lives, only to have them pushed away when and if the parents decide they are no longer of use to them. Just because we discuss how Jon and Kate have hurt other people in their lives does not detract from our concerns about the children. In fact, if anything it possibly goes to further prove their true nature. We can’t get upset just because adults with a voice who have been treated this way choose to speak out.

Let me know if there’s anything else you need help understanding.

iluveeyore said...

Kate's statement that the kids were getting tired of going to Jodi's was in the original episode.

That was a rather unnecessary comment, considering how much Jodi was doing for them.

Amy said...

Here's a question for people referring to "pimping out their kids" . .

What do you think about . . .

*people who make scrapbook pages and then put them on their sites where they sell scrap products

*putting videos of their kids on You Tube

*videos of children submitted to America's Funniest videos in the hopes of winning the cash prize

*my local newspaper has photos of all ages . . . K-college age in tiny kicker soccer tournaments, elementary science fairs, dance recitals, etc.

*the amazing amount of Christmas cards with pictures and giant letters detailing all of their kid's accomplishments for the year

*movie stars selling newborn photos to the highest bidder

*those are all scenarios where the child has been given no choice . . it's the parent's doing

Reading this blog brought about many ideas like that to mind.. . it might not all be for financial gain but each parent thought they were doing what was right for their family/kids? (I personally can't stand the Christmas brag letters.)

What do you think?

Anonymous said...

OK so this may be old, but it's about the gum issue that is talked about on Julie's blog recently. If Kate doesn't have to do laundry, then how is it time consuming for Kate to remove gum from things. How hard it is period, you put peanut butter on it and it disolves right away. All I can say is give me a break!!

Anonymous said...

'Organic peanut butter...no less' said Kate

Anonymous said...

I am so glad I found this blog and that there are so many of you who take time out of your day to care about 8 kids. The co-miseration has been great - the anger I feel at the show now is surprising and the sadness I feel for those beautiful kids. I hope Kate learns via therapy how to parent and be in relationships. She has a long road ahead of her but maybe being on TV has been a good thing for her. She certainly can't hide her personality disorder any longer and if those kids are really going to be helped, outing her on a network show may be the way to go. I feel sorry for her in a way because if you read about the disorder, it seems clear that she really thinks it's US who just don't get it. It's not as easy as telling her to be nice, it's a 'maladaptive behaviour' that is apparently very tough to fix. I doubt anyone would chose this path so in that sense I feel for her. Still, the kids need and deserve better and we, as viewers, should not be subjected to such crap. Anyhow, I think many of you who have gone above and beyond simply posting deserve a nod and a pat on the back because you are helping someone whose own family (i.e. grandparents, aunts, uncles) aren't helping (well, that's an assumption that I hope I'm wrong about).

Thanks for all the great posts and for this blog!!

Anonymous said...

I really like Jodi too, and its sad that it has come to this. However, in addition to all of this, why does she treat Jon so bad, and why doesn't he stand up for himself? Why is she so mean, and inconsiderate to others? I just don't understand her.

Anonymous said...

Here's my two cents as an ex-viewer of the show.


(***Let me also make it clear I'm a housewife with 3 kids and Im am very greatful for the little things in life. Im not rich, I struggle like most americans do. I do not have NEW cars and I have no one extra to pay for my gas, and family trips and expensive clothes and I want to vent on how this show made me feel.***)

I've always thought Kate was rude and immature since day one of watching that show, she is verbally abusive, she makes everyone look dumb and as though she is so damn high and mighty, I hate hate hate the parts of the show where they sit on their couches and Mostly kate sits there to complain and mock and belittle people about what went on "with her oh so tiresome day" give me a break she has it made for having 8 kids you can tell she has a TON of help, look at their fancy clothes and how the house is SPOTLESS all the time.
This is NOT reality, reality is living life working your butt off and doing things together as a family to surive with out the help and extra income from a TV show, it's also not caring so much on a super clean house that has to be cleaned every nano second not to mention blowing money left and right on nice things... you know what it also tells me? It tells me the mom doesnt spend enough time with the kids if she spends most of her time cleanng and freaking out about stains on their clothes! kids are kids let them enjoy life!

And boy she has some nerve talking to her husband the way she does, like he's a damn dog. This woman is also being applauded for this kind of behavior, because they allow her to act like that and film it none the less for this show. It's an outrage. ( I don't want to here "oh the cameras edit the filming and such and it just comes off that way" yeah hahah sure come on you'd have to be blind not to see the verbal abuse going on.
Im also not star stuck as I have seen some people online be with kate " oh I give that woman credit she has her hands full." give me a break people!?!?!

I also want to know why in the there is a collage account to help get money for their children to go to collage!!!! what in the world! talk about greedy they could very well afford collage for their kids with all the offers and money they get for this show. and besides it was K and J's responsiblity in the first place to have kids!? if that is the case I want ppl to feel sorry for me to give me money for my daily funfilled life and for my 3 kids collage tuitions! wow seems to me they want people to give give give ... it's ridiculas!

why in the heck should they live the good life and get paid for something that most of the people here around the world live with day to day.?


I think it's sick that there are people out there glorifying the K&J for having all these kids. The media needs to stop paying their way and feeding into the
outragous behavior. I feel like they're milking us to have them believe they're a struggling family, COME ON how long are they going to get paid for this and cash in on people to help them... they're not the only ones with 8 kids! or KIDS for that matter! why should they get all the glory!? and how long are people going to feel sorry for them?? come on They live better than most people in the world do! Havent you seen their house and cars I mean come on! they're living good they have money! but yet they're still taking what's being offered to them... It's sick and unfair.

Anonymous said...

I wonder if J&K truly realize that they need their show much more than the audience does. I used to be a fan, but like so many others, I have grown weary of watching the way Kate treats everyone, especially the ones she should love the most.

Someday, the children will log onto a school computer and google themselves. They'll learn why they've been deprived of a loving relationship with their grandparents, aunts, uncles and cousins, if they haven't already figured it out by then. IMO once they know the truth, the day will come when they will make the decision to cut J&K out of their lives. What goes around, comes around.

Anonymous said...

http://i36.tinypic.com/2dtnecl.jpg

This is the sign posted in front of their house now.
This is some of what it says:
"Do not stop in front of our house, do not take pictures and do not stop and talk to us."

Eventually their "fun" will end and they will be forced to go out and work REAL jobs, not pimp out their children. When that happens I bet they look to all the people they have shunned for help. They are a couple of LOSERS!

Katie said...

This is all so upsetting. I loved the show and was wondering where all their friends and helpers were, like Jodi & Kevin, Beth & Bob, Carla & Ashley, Nana Janet, Beverly, etc....it took me about 2 seconds to google Jon and Kate and all these negative discussion sites plus Julie's blog came up. I had a gut feeling that something wasn't right and it is so hard to believe that all this is a lie. I do believe that Jon and Kate have cut a lot of these people out of their lives and it is so sad. That is one of the reasons I loved the show, watching them interact with such caring friends and family members. Money and fame can bring lots of problems and cause people to change as evidenced here. They won't be famous forever and then they are going to be sad when everyone is gone out of their lives later on. Has anyone noticed that they don't have ANY friends on the show besides the ones that got "cut" from the show? The parents have no friends and the kids have no friends. They never go to anyone's house and no one ever comes to their house. That is totally unhealthy, especially for the children! I feel sorry for the chidren, they are so going to suffer for all of this madness.

GJ said...

Just curious if Julie (or anyone else) knows what happened to those nannies Kate hired. I think the blonde was Ashley and the brunette was Sarah. Why didn't Kate keep them on as nannies and have they spoken out about what they've witnessed at the house?

Anonymous said...

There was one show that I shuddered over. The family was riding the train, and the nice man came on board to explain the history of the train. Kate then comments later, how unneccesary that was....
I felt so bad for that man.

Also the episode where they go to church, and Kate makes the comment, We like this church, noone bothers us. How sad,,,that they aren't open to talking to others at church.

Then the 4th bd party at the cupcake place...she again seemed very irritated to be there that making cupcakes was such a mess

SAD!!!

Anonymous said...

*Shaking Head* It absolutely disgusts me to see Kate pretending to be a mother, a good mother. She continually pawns her beautiful children off on anyone who will take them so she can do whatever she wants. She sits in a chair in the garage, watching others play with her children because "she doesn't have the time" to play with them or interact with them in any way.

It sickens me that she and Jon give the same uniform sob story to churches, good hearted people to con them into opening their wallets and filling that of Jon and Kate's.

It is painfully obvious that they are enjoying the free life. Free clothing for their children, free trips, free toiletries for their children...FREE FREE FREE. They are enjoying the spoils of a very rich life while portraying a lie to those that are paying for such a lush life.

Kate claims she cooks all day,ONLY ORGANIC! Yet, she has an organic chef, help cleaning the house, a paid sitter.

On the occasions that she does go out with the children, she refuses to let the children BE children. They cannot get messy or explore. The clothing she got for free must remain stain free so she can resell them!

My heart broke into a million pieces when the children couldn't even enjoy making their own birthday cupcakes, a few were even refused eating them--ON THEIR BIRTHDAY! How cruel and heartless can one be?

My heart broke when Kate took the girls to the pottery painting studio, ignored them all while she worked on her vase then belittled their creations that they were obviously proud of.

Nothing the children do is ever quite enough for her. Nothing is ever quite clean enough or quiet enough or enough!

Jon isn't even enough. He's too bald, too fat, not helpful enough! While he has many many many faults that we have learned of, putting up with her for years on end makes him either certifiable or a saint, I am not sure which.

The loss of Aunt Jodi in the children's daily life is a huge one. She was their reality, their safe haven and the one place where they were able to be children and explore the world without stain fighter Kate trailing behind them with rubber gloves and stain stick!

While I have enjoyed watching the children grow up, I pray that the gravy train stops for Kate and that she hits reality soon. Those babies need a MOTHER, a real, loving MOTHER!

Jen said...

>>Here's a question for people referring to "pimping out their kids" . .

What do you think about . . .

*people who make scrapbook pages and then put them on their sites where they sell scrap products

I personally wouldn't do it. There are lots of free stock photos you can grab to do that. But a photo is one moment in time. It's not the constant filming of your child for hour upon hour.

*putting videos of their kids on You Tube

I personally wouldn't do this either, because I'm a freak about privacy. But again...probably a candid moment caught during everyday life. Not a constant barage of cameras and lights affecting what the child does (i.e. scripted "reality").

*videos of children submitted to America's Funniest videos in the hopes of winning the cash prize

Again, my privacy thing...but just like in the YouTube thing...it was probaby a selected candid moment.

*my local newspaper has photos of all ages . . . K-college age in tiny kicker soccer tournaments, elementary science fairs, dance recitals, etc.

As far as I know, no one is making money for doing their soccer tourney. If they are, things sure have changed! :) Besides, being recognized for an achievement that a child worked hard for is night and day different than being filmed all day because you're part of the freak show your parents created.

*the amazing amount of Christmas cards with pictures and giant letters detailing all of their kid's accomplishments for the year

Those are sent to family and friends...not strangers. Most family and friends would be happy to hear about what their friends and their children are up to. Even if some of them get a bit carried away. :)

*movie stars selling newborn photos to the highest bidder

I don't agree with most of what celebrities do. But at least Brangelina sold their pics for charity.

*those are all scenarios where the child has been given no choice . . it's the parent's doing

Reading this blog brought about many ideas like that to mind.. . it might not all be for financial gain but each parent thought they were doing what was right for their family/kids? (I personally can't stand the Christmas brag letters.)

What do you think?<<

Ruth said...

I am sad to see Aunt Jodi not being on the show any longer. On the episodes they were at her house you got to see the kids actually have the opportunity to act like kids. I am proud of Jodi's sister Julie for sticking up for her in this situation. about time someone stood up to Kate
I have always thought Kate could be a real bitch and to annaul about kids getting dirty.

Anonymous said...

A clean/neat/control freak should not have children period. If you don't like grass stains, don't have kids. Grass stains mean you have healthy active normal kids. Putting her son in the laundry room because he might throw up again says it all. Her reaction was all about a mucked up blanket, it was not about her very ill child.

Anonymous said...

I have watched the show from the beginning, and at first I felt sympathy for Kate and Jon. It must be very hard work to take care of eight children. And the children are absolutely precious and adorable. Jon and Kate are very blessed to have a large family with healthy children.

However, the show has become more difficult to watch over the years. Kate has got to be one of the most annoying, controlling, ill-tempered, rude, and incredibly ungrateful women on television. She doesn't seem to have any real friends, since she badmouths and criticizes everyone behind their backs. I can understand why her extended family members stay far away from her. I feel sorry for her children. I am a bit of a clean freak myself, but to have a complete meltdown when the children get a bit messy is disturbing, to say the least. The Disney World ice cream incident was so painful to watch. The poor Disney characters looked so bewildered and nervous as Kate was screaming. And the way she ranted about Aunt Jodi giving them gum, and yelling at her small children about chewing it... I sincerely wonder if she is having some type of psychotic breakdown. She needs serious psychological counseling before she completely emotionally ruins those innocent children. I fear for their future.

Preppy Mommy said...

Yikes. I am glad to see I am not alone...I was wondering if I was the only one who was upset about the Disney ice cream incident, the birthday cupcakes, etc. I know as parents we all over-react about little things once in a while, but come on. I feel so very sorry for those poor little kids. When I found out about the chef, and all the rest of it - I was surprised...then on a recent episode when the 6 were napping (btw, those kids are not up that early, they don't need naps anymore - it's just her being selfish) she was LAYING IN HER BED checking her emails while Jon cooked dinner! I have not watched since...so disgusting!
Before the go "buying property" or whatever, I hope someone is looking out for the kids and putting money away for college...the kids should get some benefit from this exploitation...not just Kate getting new clothes, plastic surgery, etc.