They'll Have Only Themselves to Blame

Submitted for publication via email by Jane.

I started watching Jon and Kate about a month after my baby was born. I loved it! I was an instant fan. I was so sleep deprived and so unsure of myself as a new mother that watching the show truly did make me feel hopeful that someday I too would be a great mom. ...continued

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Serena said...

THEY'LL HAVE ONLY THEMSELVES TO BLAME

Submitted for publication via email by Jane.

I started watching Jon and Kate about a month after my baby was born. I loved it! I was an instant fan. I was so sleep deprived and so unsure of myself as a new mother that watching the show truly did make me feel hopeful that someday I too would be a great mom.

For months I watched and laughed and fell in love with the 'tups. During those months, I became more confident as a mother and actually managed to get a little sleep. Maybe that was why somewhere along the way, I realized that when I watched J&K instead of feeling the hope that I once felt, I actually felt less adequate. I only have one baby, yet I couldn't seem to keep up with the laundry, the cleaning, the errands and quality time with my little one. Kate has eight and managed to cook three meals (organic at that), get on her hands and knees to sweep up the crumbs from those meals, go grocery shopping for a mere $150 a week and still had time to play around with the kids. What was I doing wrong? Why couldn't I get it together?

Then I started noticing that there were more and more instances where I felt uncomfortable while watching the show. Actually, to be more specific, I felt embarrassed for Kate. My husband and I joke around a lot and sarcasm is pretty prevalent (all in a fun and loving way), so in the beginning I actually saw quite a bit of our relationship in Jon and Kate's. But the Toys-R-Us episode threw me for a loop! I kept waiting for Kate to realize how extremely rude she had been and to apologize for overreacting. It never happened.

Next came GumGate. I watched in horror as she actually threatened to throw away the one little piece of security that Collin had in his life. Not to mention how she treated Jodi. I kept asking myself, how could a loving mother react that way?

More months, more episodes, more issues. Finally came the embarrassing moments episode and I thought now she will apologize for all those times she has been so hurtful. Nope! Not even a chance! Instead, she chose to create yet another embarrassing moment for herself and her husband. I was truly in shock!

And that is how I ended up at GWoP. Not because I am jealous and not because I was looking to find fault with this family. But because I thought there had to be more to the story. This woman that I once held in such high esteem was acting like everyone in the world was there to serve her. Why?

I was truly appalled when I started finding answers to my questions. The lies, the immaturity, the control issues and the sense of entitlement blew me away. The damage she is doing to her children and her family is unforgivable.

So now I watch for very different reasons. To remind myself that family is truly the most important thing in life. To remind myself to treat my husband with the respect that he deserves as a man and as a father. And mostly, to remind myself that I only get this one chance to enjoy the childhood of my precious baby. I will not miss out on that!

To Jon and Kate I say: the end of your 15 minutes of fame is drawing near. You may someday be tempted to blame your downfall on Jodi and the Truth Breeds Hatred blog or on GWoP and similar sites, but the reality is that your behavior is leading your fans to look for answers. And what they are finding isn't pretty. You'll have only yourselves to blame.

Jenny said...

Very, very well said. That's EXACTLY how I'm feeling. Thanks for saying it for us!

5monkeys said...

Great post! I think it sums up how alot of us feel.

Cris said...

The Toy's 'R Us episode...my husband got up and left the room. He was totally disgusted. I understand feelings of frustration around the holidays, etc., but WOW! That was a tough one to watch!

Anonymous said...

That's the way I feel except there was a time when I would happily sit down at 9pm every Monday night and watch the. My kids were in bed, the house picked up, it was my time to enjoy the show. Then the instances that occurred every week made me more and more uncomfortable. Now I'm not there every Monday night watching the show. If I'm flipping the channels and I catch a show, great. I don't tune in anymore. I can't. I feel what's the point? This isn't reality. This isn't real. TLC has made this show so unrealistic. They've made this family into a circus. I'm glad this blog is here to voice our concerns and vents, but I truly hope some higher power pulls the plug on this show. For everyone involved.

b said...

You really hit it on the head. I have 4 kids under age five. I'm very busy and very tired, but I like J&K b/c they seemed to view their kids as blessings when I watched. (I get a lot of sarcastic comments about our family structure.) But more and more I heard Kate complain about how HARD it is. (No kidding, Kate.) I also was unnerved by her attitude toward the boys. It seriously bothered me that she seemed to thing Maddy and Cara no longer needed mothering after the twins came. I tried really hard not to be too critical because I get a lot of unsolicited critiques of my own. But the way she treats Jon just tipped me over. I NEED my husband's help and I'm so grateful for every little thing he does that helps me through my day. My husband gets up and unloads the dishwasher while he waits for his coffee to brew. I can't tell you what that tiny thing means to me. He is stunned how much I appreciate that. I would think that a woman with a husband like Jon, who has TIME to do all that Jon does, would be bowing down at his feet.

I no longer watch that show. I pray for the Gosselins ,especially the children. I hope they come out of this situation soon.

Sara said...

I use to love love LOVE the show too, to the point of being extreme! I wanted everything that Kate had (not realizing at the time that it was all given to her). My daughters got the LL Bean personalized backpacks, the Rose Petal Cottage and accessories, Gap hoodies and the Fisher Price beach ball sprinkler. I got two So Cool Mom t-shirts and even a christmas cactus for my kitchen table! I made edible playdough and Monkey Munch (although I didn't call it that, just sounded stupid). When I had my hysterectomy in November, I even had a whole day of cooking and freezing meals, ala Kate! I used to look for the clothes she wore, the clothes the girls wore, and I made a wish list of all the things I wanted from Em Tanner's website.

So here I am now, with all this stuff, and I realize that I could buy every single thing she owns, right down to her house, but it would never be enough, because I could NEVER be that big of a bitch!

Angela said...

Great post, Jane! I agree that it's the Gosselins themselves that are going to blamed when the show goes off the air. Although I'm sure they won't admit to it.

Anonymous said...

This is exactly how I feel. I began watching in the hospital when my baby was 2 weeks old having surgery. When my daughter did sleep I watched Jon and Kate plus 8on the discovery health channel because I had too much going through my head to sleep. It was one of the 20 some odd channels the hospital had. I became hooked and kept watching on maternity leave after we left the hospital. I thought to myself this woman can do all this with 8 kids so I can do it with 1. Then I started feeling inadequate because I coudln't do everything she was doing. And I too, started searching online to find the truth and found this website, and I'm glad I did. I keep watching hoping that they'll come out and tell people the truth on an episode. I don't think that will ever happen.

Anonymous said...

i especially appreciated the part of your post when you said "And that is how I ended up at GWoP. Not because I am jealous and not because I was looking to find fault with this family. But because I thought there had to be more to the story.
I too came to this site looking for answers and feeling uneasy. I applaud the moderators for what they have set up for us.
However, that being said, recently I have been getting the feeling that there has been too much "finding fault" and petty insults, and much less of what the site's mission is supposed to be about - unearthing the truth and getting help for those 8 wonderful kids. I propose a return to that sentiment.

Jen said...

Hmmm, I just noticed that not only have they removed many businesses from their website, they've FINALLY changed the 'tups age from 3 to 4. Aren't the twins 8 now though? They didn't bother to change that.....

Guess they DO read what we write on here...lol!

Julie said...

I think this post sums up quite nicely what MOST of us feel. We probably all started out as huge fans, even of Kate's and as time wore on we were shocked at her changing behavior.
I think it's unprecedented, even for a fictional TV character to change so much..let alone a "real person".
I truly do believe, and I'm not being facile, that Kate has Borderline Personality Disorder and that the stress of having 8 kids has made it errupt far worse than it would have had she only had a few kids... I can actually see something really bad happening...in a very public way.
It's interesting to see SO MANY people react in pretty much the same way to this phenomenon. The contempt she inspires is because she is so contemptuous herself.
I'm amazed when I remember that I was really drawn to her and Jon when I first saw this show.
The unusual factor is that these "reality shows" are of course always heavily edited and despite that, everything that this woman is shown doing or saying paints her to be a deeply unpleasant, ungracious, unkind, un-natural, ungrateful shrew...either they are editing out the GOOD moments (and why in the hell would she approve that??) or she is actually even WORSE than we see and that is the best of Kate that they could slap together (god forbid).

Anonymous said...

Please remember that this is a reality TV show that is heavily edited. Jon & Kate have become characters based on what the producers want you to see in 1 hour episodes. Kate's apologies or softer side could be on the editing room floor. Not to excuse her behavior but do remember that much of who they are is on the editing room floor.

Anonymous said...

You're assuming Kate HAS a softer side to land on the cutting room floor. I've heard and seen just the opposite. I don't see Kate often, but she's always been as rude and overbearing as what you usally see on TV or worse. It's a case of what you see is really what you get.

Anonymous said...

Growing up in a family of 8 kids, with a moderate standard of living and a OCD, AKA "Super Controling", mother, I find myself experiencing feelings of anxiety and dread when I witness Kate go off on someone, be it her husband, Jon, the cleaning lady that didn't clean enough,or one of the little ones.
I recognize the pattern of her behavior quite clearly, and I believe that her ego is just out of control. I cannot begin to imagine what goesn down when the cameras are not there. I was outraged at how she treated Jodi over the gum and astonished because she KNEW the cameras were on her. Kate's playing favorites with the kids really gets to me. I have also noted how less and less of the show ends up being about the kids...who were what charmed me to begin with. I know something of what those kids are feeling and it is probably just going to get worse for them. I cannot imagine what ramifications her behavior will have on all 8 children. Instead of preparing for college, she needs to start saving to pay for the therapy those kids are going to need. Doesn't anyone remember how things ended up for the Dionne Quints? I look at the Gosselin children as sad little pawns in a game they don't know is being played and all I can hope is that they will find enough attention and love along the way to fuel their precious spirits.

IMHO said...

Wow, Jane - beautifully said! Thankyou!

This follow up quote: "However, that being said, recently I have been getting the feeling that there has been too much "finding fault" and petty insults, and much less of what the site's mission is supposed to be about - unearthing the truth and getting help for those 8 wonderful kids. I propose a return to that sentiment.

8/28/2008 1:55 PM"

Also - Amen sister!! I said something similar that today in th thread about the July 4 epi, but not as eloquently as you. So, I'm repeating myself by backing you up. Here's me, standing next to you saying "Yah - what she said!"

Follow up comments were left to my post on the July 4 thread that I DO appreciate and did read. I understand people need to vent, let off steam, enjoy themselves in an online community. I'm suggesting we do it more graciously so that people respect what they read here - espcially those that are on the fence about this show.

Your comment "This woman that I once held in such high esteem was acting like everyone in the world was there to serve her. Why?" I feel part of the answer is TLC's fault, propping her up as they apparently have done. The early shows were not this bad. We all have a dark side - if it's encouraged and even celebrated, watch out! Someone said she's always been this way on this thread. Well, on a network dedicated to helping us learn what not to wear, how to look 10 years younger, and medical inspirations - why don't they work on the emancipation of Kate from her worst traits?

I tried to find a place to e-mail TLC the other day on their web site and this one, but couldn't find it. I want to shake a finger at them for their part in turning this once interesting family into the horrific mess they show on TV. Anyone know how to find that? You can blame J & K all you want, but TLC is just encouraging their faults - more and more each "season".

Anonymous said...

RE: "Please remember that this is reality TV show that is heavily edited." Yes, it is, but over and over again Kate and Jon have said, both on the show and in person (my ears heard it) that the show is pretty much an accurate representation of their life. "Who they are" is what we see.

Anonymous said...

"You're assuming Kate HAS a softer side to land on the cutting room floor. I've heard and seen just the opposite. I don't see Kate often, but she's always been as rude and overbearing as what you usally see on TV or worse. It's a case of what you see is really what you get."

You are assuming she does not have a softer side. Do you know her?

angiemack said...

I have a really hard time believing that the softer side of Kate can be found on any floor. Anywhere. Unless, of course, that floor has been padded with $100 bills.

angiemack said...

ALSO, sorry, but Kate has no one to blame but herself for her scary reality persona. She gives the producers an awful lot of material to work with... no accident, I imagine.

Cheryllen said...

IMHO, it seems to me that if there's a camera in my face filming me with my kids, I'd be on my BEST behavior. I don't know Kate and Jon personally, so I'm forcing myself to take all of what ends up on television with a grain of salt. I want to believe everyone has good in them. Two ironic things: My oldest son's name is Joel, and I adore him. They treat their Joel like he's dirt on their shoes. I want to scoop him up and hug him! The other thing is, J&K+8 are moving to MY neck of the woods in North Carolina. I'd love to be a fly on the wall of their new multi million dollar mansion!

Anonymous said...

Hmmm, I just noticed that not only have they removed many businesses from their website, they've FINALLY changed the 'tups age from 3 to 4. Aren't the twins 8 now though? They didn't bother to change that.....

Thats because they don't turn 8 until Oct.

Ravello said...

Jane, most of us have been where you were. Initially we all fell in love with the tups, the beautiful smiling Kate and hard working Jon.
Then the real Kate began to evolve and it was really ugly. Either she sanitized her behavior in the early episodes or her personality has greatly deteriorated.

What got to me early was the treatment of the boys, especially Joel. She treats Joel like is a potted plant, an object to feed, water, clothe. I am waiting to see evidence of maternal love for the boys. I have seen every episode and have not seen it yet.

The favoritism toward the girls, especially Hannah, was obvious early on and bothered me.

Joelgate, Gumgate, Hairgate, Cupcakegate, 4th of July Gate- she just gets uglier and uglier.

I am seriously thinking of giving up the show, I get so upset after watching the cruelty to the boys. But it is hard to turn away from a trainwreck.

We are all a little embarassed for different reasons. I am embarassed I wasted a tank of gas going to see them in February. Now I wouldnt walk across the street to see that shrew.

Someone asked how to write to TLC, go to the web site, scroll to the bottom to find the contact us section. Then page through the mandatory fields and eventually you will get to a comment section. I have written to them countless time. I am always polite but I let them know the exploitation of the kids is way out of hand.
I have written to numerous sponsors in this fashion.

Thanks for caring to write this post, you speak for many of us.

Anonymous said...

I know exactly what you mean. Long story short, I was bored, started to add the gosselins to my DVR and for a few short weeks thought it was fun watching those adorable little 'tuplets. Then I started noticing how many of the episodes revolved arount the vanity of the parents (teeth whitening, hair transplant, plastic surgury)... so on and so forth until I started to poke around the net. And that's when it all came together to bring me here supporting this website. *sigh*

grammier said...

Sara said >>>So here I am now, with all this stuff, and I realize that I could buy every single thing she owns, right down to her house, but it would never be enough, because I could NEVER be that big of a bitch!

I nominate this for comment of the week.

Anonymous said...

In response to IMHO:
TLC is the correct way to complain because they hold the contract and can cancel at any time.

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NotASheeple said...

I am/was? a fan of the show then this blog and the Aunt Jodi one opened my eyes a bit.

I agree with Anonymous 1:55. It's getting a bit "negative energy" around here. I love that this site is an advocate for the children so that's why I don't get why people only ever talk about all the bad things that happen to them. There ARE some good things.

For example, today I watched the infamous GumGate episode (Mady's day). I did feel bad for poor Collin and his lovie but I also thought Jon and Kate were pretty good with Mady. They were hugging and comforting her after she got her ears pierced and she looked genuinely happy about getting to have her special day. She did say it was her best day ever. Even if it wasn't Jon and Kate's idea for each kid to have their own day and even if they didn't pay for anything, wasn't it worth it to see Mady happy?

Around here fans of the show are called sheeple. I think this blog may have some of its own. I'm just trying to avoid being a sheeple of anything.

Anonymous said...

IMHO,
There's a page on the Discovery website to send comments to their viewer relations staff:

http://extweb.discovery.com/viewerrelations

Becky said...

Couldn't have put it better myself. She made me feel so inadequate as a mother of 2 very young children. When I began looking for more info on them online is when I stumbled upon all this info. I never intended to find the negative things I did. It explains alot though.

I truly believe that it is not editing that makes Kate look like she does. Anything I have ever read from people who have met her personally has been pretty consistent with what you see on the show and even worse. Plus, how many people are there out there who know her personally and defend her. I could count on one hand....and even that is a stretch. It would only be those who stand to make money off of her continuing her nonsense.

Anonymous said...

I know what all of the gates are except Joelgate. Could someone fill me in on that one?

Thanks!

merryway said...

You hit everything so well. I caught onto the show late. I couldn't wait until the Memorial Day marathon where I could catch up on everything I had missed. I just could relate to those crazy moments everyone has once in awhile. It was misleading because I had thought of the first two specials as documentaries. On the Fourth of July episode, on the couch, Jon informed Kate that she had been dragging the tups (they were holding onto a walking rope), her response was something like “well, they were slow”. My son was over and watching with me, at that moment we both said “oh” and looked at each other in disbelief. I didn't want to believe that a mother would really have Kate's attitude towards their children. One of those moments that had bothered me the most was that she didn't accompany ANY of the boys on their special day out. It should have been high on her priority list. I also thought, hey, this is America and she gets to parent (within the law) the way she wants. I can't imagine the euphoria you must feel after giving birth to 6 healthy children. I know about the feelings of inadequacy, etc, but I'm talking of those first moments, days and moments afterward that you marvel at the miracle. Not only did she have two healthy twins, she managed to have six healthy children. I certainly identified with the love you know she must have for her children. But then, she not only doesn't go on the boy's special day, she doesn't go on national TV. I kept thinking how I'd feel if I was the boys and saw this when they were older. They would know that their mom had the ability to make it possible to go to her spa and pedicure days, but after all that speech about how important it was, she didn't go with us in front of the world.

Kate is not a mom I would ever care to be around or let near my kids. IMO no one can crucify a mom like another mom, but Kate climbed up there and is playing the martyred mother. I'm really disgusted with the Learning Channel. To use babies to dupe the American public is sleazy. It reminds of the movie Quiz Show where the network duped the American audience because certain contestants were given the answers before hand. Now, TLC does not only exploit the children, they seem to also exploit Kate, although she seems clueless.

Anonymous said...

I dont believe that there is a softer side to Kate. She is who she is and it is not pretty. I think that she was on her best behavior in the early episodes because she wanted her show to be picked up by TLC. She is quite clever, she was nice at first to suck in the viewers and the sheeple. Much like that little house she keeps referencing she was busting at the seams and had to let her true self loose. I think what you see on camera is the true Kate. There is no kind Kate. There would not be any footage if they only showed nice Kate. The cameras have done a good job of capturing this womans evilness and it comes from the depths of her soul. She is a modern day mommy dearest. Right down to the laser beam stares she gives the kids when they have done something wrong. No wonder the kids have to go to the bathroom so much. She probably scares the piss out of them with her laser beam stares. She even has me scared watching her, I can only imagine how they must feel.

Katie O said...

"Anonymous said...
I know what all of the gates are except Joelgate. Could someone fill me in on that one?"

I believe this was when all the kids had the flu and Jon and Kate got on a plane for LA do get Jon a few extra hairs on the top of his head. Joel looked so sick that day that the two left, thank goodness Jodi was there with them that day! Joel was shown more love and affection in those few days that Jon and Kate were gone than in the weeks of free trips, vacations in fancy homes, and all the unlawful fireworks you could imagine with his parents.

How sad Aunt Jodi is no longer a main part of their lives.

Liz said...

Ihave a question I hope someone can answer. I was watching the Christmas shopping episode today. They were explaining how the kids buy for each other. Does anyone know if the talk about Santa Claus and gifts? I know some people don't but I think it is a fun part of childhood. Also, if they go out to promote their book will Beth go with them? It could be written in a contract.

Anonymous said...

IMO- I dont understand why you think that this site is turning negative. People are really just commenting on what they see on the show. A lot of what is written is negative, because people are fed up with the G's exploiting their children on tv. It is not like Kate or Jon for that matter is doing anything to correct their behavior or treatment of the children. If anything their behavior is getting worse. If the bloggers just wrote positive things about the family like Kate did a good job of comforting Leah. Isn't that what a mother is supposed to do? Comfort her child. I am not a sheeple, so I am not going to pretend to be one and praise Kate for things a mother is supposed to do anyway. I would like to see this show taken off the air so the children can live a normal life. People use this blog to find the truth about the Gosselins and the truth is not always pretty. The truth is not always positive.

Mimi said...

Anon said: "Please remember that this is a reality TV show that is heavily edited. Jon & Kate have become characters based on what the producers want you to see in 1 hour episodes. Kate's apologies or softer side could be on the editing room floor. Not to excuse her behavior but do remember that much of who they are is on the editing room floor."

The only problem with that idea is that the posters on here who actually know her have said that what you see on the show is the BEST of Kate and not, by far, the worst.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I know what all of the gates are except Joelgate. Could someone fill me in on that one?"


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I think Joelgate was when Joel was sick and threw up on his comforter, and Kate stuck him on the floor of the laundry room while she cleaned up. Later, Jon came home to find Joel on the laundry room floor.

Anonymous said...

Wow, I could have written this post, though I doubt I would have been half as eloquent!

I found this show when I was in the exact same situation - brand new baby, first time mother, sleep deprived and completely overwhelmed. I was frustrated with myself over the fact that I couldn't keep up - yet here was a woman with EIGHT kids, making it look easy. I quickly became hooked - the kids are just so cute and Kate did have some decent ideas about organization. But after awhile, I found myself squirming in my seat as she berated her husband and repeatedly insulted those precious boys (being a mom of a sweet little boy, I'm a bit partial, I admit!). After "gum-gate", I ventured online and was so glad to find this site and the realization that I wasn't alone. I'm hoping as more and more people discover the truth, our voices will be heard and these kids can get on with a normal, happy life. I'm hoping that's still possible...?

Anyway, nothing much to add. Just wanted to thank you for a great post.

mlou said...

RE:For example, today I watched the infamous GumGate episode (Mady's day). I did feel bad for poor Collin and his lovie but I also thought Jon and Kate were pretty good with Mady.

This is exactly what my problem is with this show. I'm not saying that they should not be good to Mady, but then again she is one of the precious girls. I wouldn't have a problem with the outings if they would 1) fess up and admit that it was FREE, instead of telling a bold faced lie. 2) That they both attend the boys' days out. Whether Kate likes it or not, they are her children and deserve as much love and respect as her girls.

mlou said...

I also have to add to JoelGate. This is where Kate goes into the child's room and screams at him, then pulls him out of bed by one arm. She then sticks him on a comforter in the laundry room with the yellow bucket. Starts the washer and dryer and turns out the light. She was more concerned about talking to the camera than comforting her son. Jon comes in, checks on Joel, tells Kate that he is burning up. She says that she has already given him medicine. Jon takes him to their bedroom so he can at least watch TV.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I know what all of the gates are except Joelgate. Could someone fill me in on that one?"


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I think Joelgate was when Joel was sick and threw up on his comforter, and Kate stuck him on the floor of the laundry room while she cleaned up. Later, Jon came home to find Joel on the laundry room floor.

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I'm going to add that she stuck him on the floor in the laundry room and closed the door with the washer and dryer running. When Jon came home, he asked Kate where Joel was and she told him that he was in the laundry room. When he went to check on him, he remarked that Joel was "burning up".
Nice candidate for Mother of the Month, don't you think?

K.C. said...

Sara said...So here I am now, with all this stuff, and I realize that I could buy every single thing she owns, right down to her house, but it would never be enough, because I could NEVER be that big of a bitch!

I also nominate this for comment of the week!

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Re: What is Joelgate?:

'Joelgate' happened in the...J&K-8 go to California for Jon's free hairplugs and left the sick kids with Kevin and Jodi who already had their own sick kids because Kate refused to miss a free day at the spa...episode.

It's everything the two posters above mentioned and more. Oh, and Kate called Joel "Vomitous Boy".

Kristee said...

Jane said:

Kate has eight and managed to cook three meals (organic at that), get on her hands and knees to sweep up the crumbs from those meals, go grocery shopping for a mere $150 a week and still had time to play around with the kids. What was I doing wrong?

You were doing nothing wrong. Kate doesn't play with her kids, except for the times the camera is on and Jen the producer tells her to. The episode where they were playing duck duck goose was very telling. The kids didn't know what they were doing, and Kate looked uncomfortable doing all of it. Kate's house is clean b/c she doesn't get down and play with the kids..she cleans instead.

I hate when mom's feel inadequate because of Katie Irene. She is not a role model, nor imo has she ever been. She's insulting to her children and husband, she's manipulative and cunning when she desires something, and only smiles when she is being given something for free.

You are just like so many "real" moms who struggle to stay ahead of laundry..keep the grocery bills down...and keep their families happy. I bet your little one is full of smiles because you take the time to play. Kate is no where near a real mom...not even close.

Anonymous said...

I think that Jon needs to "Man up." Whether he likes it or not he is a role model to his boys, and a very poor role model at that. He is going to unleash on the world 3 angry young men. Either they are going to grow up to hate women, or they will be as meek as little lambs.
As for Kate, she is so worried about ruining the kids clothing, but thinks little of ruining these kids minds. I dont think anything or anyone can help Kate. She is already cooked. What she is doing to her boys pysche is wrong. They need her positive attention just as the girls do. People praise Kate for not undergoing reduction. But we have and continue to watch her destroy her boys spirit on every episode. That to me is truly sad. What kind of mother denies their child affection because the child is nasty and the child nails are dirty? News flash Kate the girls are just as dirty. They do not wash their hands after using the restroom either. If the boys nails are dirty and nasty that is your fault. Cut their nails, but do not withold affection from them because of it. That is just an excuse and a lame one at that.

Anonymous said...

Why doesn't Kate take the boys to the spa for a manicure? That way their nails will be clean and she can spend some time with them. That way she can stop withholding affection from them.

Kristee said...

ANON said:
There's a page on the Discovery website to send comments to their viewer relations staff:

http://extweb.discovery.com/viewerrelations

I wrote to them over the weekend. I've yet to even receive an automated response from them. I wish everyone could take the time to send in their thoughts, but I wonder how much good it will actually do?

As a side note, my neice heads up a MOPS group smack dab in the middle of the bible belt. She was a faithful "follower" of all things Go$$elin. Back in July I sent her a link to this site. She said she could see this coming and Aunt Jodi's video sealed the deal for her. Needless to say, all her MOP mommies have been turned on to KateGate....and turned off from Jon and Kate plus 8.

mlou said...

RE:Why doesn't Kate take the boys to the spa for a manicure? That way their nails will be clean and she can spend some time with them. That way she can stop withholding affection from them.

I can't help but lol at this one. Jon & Kate are both so out of whack with their gender roles, that if this did ever happen they would have to admit that it is damage control. The dirty nails are just one of Kate's lame a** excuses. She doesn't even like her husband, much less anyone that remotely reminds her of him. Also, spa time for the boys would mean less freebies for her.

IMHO said...

Wow. Typed up a comment - lost it somewhere out there! If you find it, please return! Trying again here: Thanks for the info for contacting TLC - I e-mail tonight and will try faxing tomorrow. You guys are great!

Regarding my earlier comments on raising the bar for posts: I'm not suggesting "if you can't say anything nice about Kate, dont say anthing at all" because it would be painfully quiet around here! And I'm all for great banter and witty conversation, and YES - we come here to vent - YES, YES! But if we go around sounding just like her, we just a bunch of pots calling Kettle Kate black.

hellokitty said...

"...get on her hands and knees to sweep up the crumbs from those meals..."

(First, I'd like to say that I am not picking on the person that said this. :))

I always found it interesting that we've never actually seen Kate on her hands and knees cleaning up the floor. Kate repeatedly says that she is, but I've only seen her swiffer the floor on her feet. Never on her knees.

Anonymous said...

I've never posted on any type of on-line forum but I had to respond to "Anonymous" who said "Kate's apologies or softer side could be on the editing room floor".

The only thing on the editing room floor is Kon's soul.

I do not know Jon and Kate personally but grew up in the Reading area and Jon's dad was my dentist (side note, he was a wonderful man and I truly wonder what his real feelings were about Kate). I briefly met Kate, post-twins, pre-tups at one of my sister's soccer games (Jon's brother was her coach and, again, a really nice guy). It was a BRIEF meeting but she was snotty and just strange (for lack of a better word) back then as well.
In addition, my mom knows someone who has worked with them on a professional basis who says Kate is "the most difficult and demanding person to work with".
In the infamous words of Mammy from Gone with the Wind, "You can put a mule in a horse's harness but its a mule just the same". I almost pity Kate because I think she's using her uterus's celebrity status to hide her "mule" insecurities.
To end this, my youngest sister knows Jenny so when she inevitably gets canned, I told my sister she has to get the dirt!

K.C. said...

Anon8:04,

When Jenny does leave J&K please have your sister tell her about GWOP!

Anonymous said...

I'm really disgusted with the Learning Channel. To use babies to dupe the American public is sleazy.

Comment of the week! Comment of the year!

merryway said...

mlou said...
She then sticks him on a comforter in the laundry room with the yellow bucket. Starts the washer and dryer and turns out the light. She was more concerned about talking to the camera than comforting her son
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She also had to don a surgical mask for the rinsing out of the comforter.

Anonymous said...

K.C. said...
Anon8:04,

When Jenny does leave J&K please have your sister tell her about GWOP!


Shoot, why wait? Tell her about it now. We'll start work on the "Free Jenny" t-shirts for her and everything.

Sara said...

Actually (and I could be wrong), but wasn't Joelgate in the "Cooking with the Twins" episode? The kids were still sick in the bald spot episode, but I just remember thinking it was kinda gross that they combined shots of pukiness with the girls cooking. Not exactly a delectable combination.

Anonymous said...

Kate treats the 'tups like she treats the Gymboree clothing...keep 'em clean with no stains and protect the resale value.

Anonymous said...

I am really confused by the poster who has said several times here that she is worried that we will start to sound like Kate.

Do you mean that since Kate spends 24/7 trashing her own husband that we would begin to sound like that?

If so, I think it is high time that Kate deserve an eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth.. Jon apparently doesn't have the ability to do anything other than say "yes honey"... the kids can't take her on, if family go against her, she excommunicates them from her childen.

Further, we are expresing our opinions about Kate and Kate is an adult who is so experienced at trashing others, then certainly Kate can very well relate to the need for others to take issue with her. Big difference - Kate has control over those she is damaging.. we have no control over Kate.. unless we follow your suggestions and tone it down - which gives Kate more control over our freedom.

Remember Kate admires freedom - i.e which includes freedom of speech.

so I say, it is high time someone started talking back to Kate even if it is hundreds of thousands of pissed off viewers.

Jane said...

Thank you for all the comments! It's really nice to know that I wasn't alone on my journey from true fan to truly appalled. And thanks to the GWoP staff for giving all of us a place to voice our concerns.

Regarding the editing of the show, IMO we do see the real Jon and Kate on the show. I believe that Figure 8 and TLC probably do highlight the controversial portions as much as possible to boost ratings. But, I also believe that Jon and Kate give them plenty of negative footage to work with. Either way, J&K, TLC and Figure 8 are all guilty of exploiting these children to further their own goals. Now that Jodi is no longer allowed contact with the kids, they really don't have anyone looking out for their best interests. Because of this, I will be sending my request to have this show taken off the air to TLC, Figure 8 and all of the sponsors today!

Anonymous said...

"I always found it interesting that we've never actually seen Kate on her hands and knees cleaning up the floor. Kate repeatedly says that she is, but I've only seen her swiffer the floor on her feet. Never on her knees."

That same can be said with regards to Kate spending HOURS on stain removal. Not that I personally want to see an entire episode of Kate and stain removal, but if she is actually in her laundry room dedicating herself to hours of stain removal you would think over the course of many many episodes there would be some footage crediting herself to the act.

Anonymous said...

"RE:Why doesn't Kate take the boys to the spa for a manicure? That way their nails will be clean and she can spend some time with them. That way she can stop withholding affection from them."

What exactly are the boy tups doing that the girl tups arent that would result in the boy tups hands being 'digusting and dirty'.
Furthermore, why hasnt Kate introduced the boy tups to the concept of washing their dirty hands with soap and water? If washing hands keeps the girl tups hands clean it will do the exact same for the boys. IMO, those boys hands have never been digustingly dirty a day in their life! Kate would never allow it.

Moons in Leo said...

ANON said:
There's a page on the Discovery website to send comments to their viewer relations staff:

http://extweb.discovery.com/viewerrelations

I wrote to them over the weekend. I've yet to even receive an automated response from them. I wish everyone could take the time to send in their thoughts, but I wonder how much good it will actually do?


Make sure when writing to them that you include your real name, address and e-mail address.

Anonymous complaints will not do any good, it's true. They need to know at TLC that there are real people behind this outrage.

laurie said...

That is so well put. We all felt that way I think, "what are we doing wrong" and why "can't we get it together" sort of feelings, I know I have.

when you have an editing crew to take out the private chef, errands run by assistants, nannies tidying up the children's toys, and someone to do your grocery shopping... what's left looks like an awesome super-human mom who manages to get it all done. Certainly misleading to the public who views her show.

Even Carol Brady had Alice and they only had SIX kids and they were fully grown. We should have known that something was UP when this seemingly "normal" mom (on the outset) was able to keep it all together with so much more to do. I know I should have noticed sooner, it only took almost a year and I think I'm pretty "quick".

Their fifteen minutes is drawing near...

IMHO said...

Moons in Leo's advice: "Make sure when writing to them that you include your real name, address and e-mail address.

Anonymous complaints will not do any good, it's true. They need to know at TLC that there are real people behind this outrage."

Yes - please do. I filled all that in last night, and I did get my automated reply this morning. I'll fill you guys in if they send and interesting response.

katesaborderline said...

Your post was awesome and captured my feelings exactly!

Kate is a horrible mom, plain and simple. I think that Jon is a horrible parent as well. Yes, he looks good next to Kate, but she doesn't set the bar very high.

He is rough with the kids (I actually worry he's going to dislocate one of their shoulders during high chair removal), he is sarcastic, he is apathetic and he doesn't stand up to his shrew of a wife for the sake of his kids.

I have no respect for either of these two parents. I don't know what Kate's power is over Jon, but it's time for him to grow a pair and step up for the sake of his kids.

I sometimes think that people like Kate are just waiting to see who will finally have the guts to stand up to them. It's time, Jon.

Anonymous said...

"No wonder the kids have to go to the bathroom so much. She probably scares the piss out of them with her laser beam stares."

roflmao... I vote for comment of the week!!

luvmytwins said...

OMG! My sister wrote to GH last night complaining about the Kate Gosselin Mother of the Month crap and they replied with "simply not true that we are honoring Kate Gosselin as Mother of the Month"!!! WTF!!!!

Barbara said...

Are you serious luvmytwins? I have taken GH for years and was thinking about writing to them to complain about the Mother of the Month crap, but now it will be very interesting to see if what they say is true. There's not much we can do at this point even if they did vote her Mother of the Month. It would have happened months ago. So, guess I will wait for my magazine and see what it contains. Thanks for sharing that.

Also, did anyone else notice on the 4th of July episode while they were at the braiding place while the little ones were getting their braids, Kate and Mady were sitting side by side and Mady said something about it hurting or not wanting to be there and the camera panned to Kate and she had one of her killer gazes aimed at Mady and when she realized the camera was on her, quickly tried to turn it into a "quirky/funny" face?

Wilma said...

There maybe a softer side to Kate that we don't see, but what I see as the problem is that she makes the kids watch the show. She puts it on during naps. The things they say on the couch and when she talks to the camera are not comments that I think kids should hear. If I had kids I would not let them watch this show.

The tups and twins should not hear their parents make such negative comments.

Barbara in VA said...

K.C.: I think your experience with Tammy Kate and Leah at the store pretty sums up her personality. I wouldn't speak to her if I fell over her body on the floor. "Don't talk to my child", huh? OMG, how many times has some nice person come up to me and said "Oh, your little girl (or boy) is just so cute". It happens all the time, Kate, you are NOT SPECIAL!!!!

Does anyone ever watch an old Brit-com called Keeping Up Appearances? Kate is starting to remind me (Sheridan aside) of Hyacinth in that show, constantly bossing and demanding and being demeaning to her husband; not even realizing that the whole world is trying to avoid her and thinks she is ridiculous. On the other hand, this show, this Brit-com is a comedy -- not real life mean.

cardamom said...

RE: Barbara in VA
Yes! I thought exactly the same thing about Kate and "Hyacinth". My husband and I watch that show on PBS and find it a hoot (especially because it reminds my husband of his mother, lol). Just like Kate, Hyacinth always yells at her husband about the way he dresses, drives, or speaks.

Kate has always struck me as someone who worries tremendously about appearances--her own, her kids, her husband's. Also, she seems to be ,well, a bit of a snob from what others who have met her have written. Kate should practice what she has preached to Mady and "use kind words and be a friend."

Barbara in VA said...

Has anyone seen Collin Gosselin - Tough as Nails video on U tube? It is just so cute and the music is great. I think Jon would evenlike this depiction of his son. Kate, well, of course not. She is not featured. It is about Collin.

Anonymous said...

I want to say to the folks that make these type of comments:
I too came to this site looking for answers and feeling uneasy. I applaud the moderators for what they have set up for us.
However, that being said, recently I have been getting the feeling that there has been too much "finding fault" and petty insults, and much less of what the site's mission is supposed to be about - unearthing the truth and getting help for those 8 wonderful kids. I propose a return to that sentiment


Regarding my earlier comments on raising the bar for posts: I'm not suggesting "if you can't say anything nice about Kate, dont say anthing at all" because it would be painfully quiet around here! And I'm all for great banter and witty conversation, and YES - we come here to vent - YES, YES! But if we go around sounding just like her, we just a bunch of pots calling Kettle Kate black.

Around here fans of the show are called sheeple. I think this blog may have some of its own. I'm just trying to avoid being a sheeple of anything.

That it appears to me that some posters are going through the 5 stages of grief. One of those is anger. So, when they found that Kate the super mom was just a big fat scam put on by Figure 8 and TLC that not only lied about her supermom abilities but also made those viewers feel bad because they had less children but were having a harder time coping. The picture these ex-fans had of this wonderful mom and family died. So now they have to grieve so when they make the nitpicky posts or angry posts I find that to be expected. Anger is a common reaction to being lied to. Also being nit picky is due to the eyes being opened they now see so much that it's like "wow, I didn't notice this when I was in love with the show."
I don't think that makes them sheeple that makes them normal people who are now watching with eyes wide open and finding themselves surprised at how they missed so much that was there for the seeing the first time around. Just because people that weren't sucked in the lovefest initially or were shocked out of their love for the show due to some over the top behavior much earlier have made similar comments it's because we are watching the same behaviors and commenting on the same concerns.
None of these will make anyone here like Kate. I would imagine from what I read it's going to make more moms into anti-Kates. I've read more remarks about treating husbands and children better then I've heard gee, I'm going to start fertility treatment in hope for sextuplets, or begging for handouts or posting signs to tell my neighbors to bugger off.
Maybe watching someone go through the grieving process isn't comfortable but I find it expected. I do wish they wouldn't verbally beat themselves up over having been taken in initially, that's a show's job to pull in the viewers. They found a hook and grabbed the attention of a certain set of the population to get their ratings up. But as the saying goes You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time. So I'm not going to be surprised as more viewers begin to question what is going on, especially with more and more of the friends and family disappears without a word.
I think the blog can do more then one thing. It can be the support site for those that want to get these children their childhood back, get laws changed to protect all children in reality tv, and it can be a place for those who have been hurt by the lies they bought into that Figure 8 and TLC presented to vent, as well as a place for people to snark at the insanity of the show like TWoP does because if any shows deserve ridicule it's reality TV that is so far from reality that it's just got to me mocked.

Anonymous said...

Luvmytwins can you post the email that your sister got from GH. why are they doing a show about the show?

luvmytwins said...

This is what they sent my sister:

Thank you for writing.
We appreciate it that you took the time to share your opinions with us. It is important for us to hear what our readers are thinking. Reports you may have read that we are honoring Kate Gosselin as Mother of the Month are not true.
Your e-mail was forwarded to our top editors.

Sincerely,
Marjorie Cubisino, Director
Consumer & Reader Services
Good Housekeeping Research Institute

Now, I don't know if they are denying the "mother of the month" accolade b/c they will be technically calling it something else, i.e. "outstanding mothers" or some such nonsense, or, if they have had so many of us squeaky wheels write in that they are revamping the issue... It will be interesting to see, for sure.

Anonymous said...

To Laurie at 7:08

I don't doubt that there is a 'private chef'. Most production companies hire a lunch cart for the crew and staff on the job site.

Are we to expect Kate Gosselin to feed the crew and get paid five bucks a sandwich? Or is one guy supposed to get sent off everyday to McDonalds and pruchase the crews lunch order? If that were the case, I'd probably quit that job over my eventual sickness of fast food.

They film three days a week. Maybe on those three days, when they are busy with editing, giving diary room confessionals, and discussing production with Jen- Jon and Kate also partake in the lunch cart so that they have more time for such things. I would find that similar to stoppign in at Burger King on the way home when you knwo you have alot to do and cooking a dinner isn't a realistic option. I would not fault Jon and Kate this 'luxury' at all.

K.C. said...

Anon said...But in my opinion (the opinon of an actual child) she is doing a great job.

IMO this is EXACTLY why this show should be taken off the air. I definitely don't want children growing up with Kate Gosselin as a roll model! Can you imagine what kind of parenting skills, (or lack thereof), they will pick up? Scary.

Where was it first mentioned that Kate would be Good Housekeeping's Mother of the Month? Was it in a magazine article?

Anonymous said...

Sharon Osbourne once said she has to remind herself "that this (the fame and fortune) could all be gone tomorrow."

Jon and Kate don't seem to think this way, there is little humility in their situation and this is what bothers me.

luvmytwins said...

"Where was it first mentioned that Kate would be Good Housekeeping's Mother of the Month? Was it in a magazine article?"

I don't know, actually some on GWOP mentioned it and posted an email address to write to. The only thing I know for sure is that the magazine is featuring her as something... When I wrote them I just said I was saddened to hear they were honoring her a mother in some way, I didn't use the actual term "Mother of the Month"... Would love it if anyone who knows more details could comment??

Barbara in VA said...

I thought I knew everything when I was 15, too...and then when I was 25... and again at 30. Look, just being young doesn't mean you have a unique or more clear vision than anyone else; nor does being a mother of 12 give you that unique view. But it is true, isn't it, that you are a bit more wise and a bit less able to be conned than when you were, let's say, 7 years old? You may not like what we say here, but some of us have seen a lot of life in our double your years and so I say this with sincerity...give your opinions, we welcome them, but don't doubt our wisdom either.

themrs said...

this is what i wrote to the TLC comment page. i encourage you all to compose your own. it's time to you know what or get off the pot. let's stop watching (for the sake of rehashing) and take a stand. their last special recieved some of their highest ratings yet. we HAVE to stop watching if we want our voices to be heard. IMHO

Dear TLC,
i've been a big fan of this show since it began. over the last year or so, it's gotten to a point where it turns my stomach. the way you are exploiting these young children is sickening, and should be illegal. not only do preschoolers NOT need cameras following them around all day, but the way they are treated by their mother is heinous. you even film them on the toilet. that's disgusting. they can't even have the privacy to use the bathroom alone. and if i have see kate belittle jon and those children one more time, i may have a nervous breakdown. she is unkind, manipulative, and apparently more concerned with the money she is recieving from you than her eight children's welfare. although in her defense, she seems quite fond of cara, hannah, and leah. it's just the other five she has no tolerance for. i know among my group of "mom" friends, we have all checked out. enough is enough. it's time for someone to step up and advocate for those children, since neither TLC, figure 8 or jon & kate will. you can subtract one more viewer from your ratings. i'm finished.

themrs said...

oh yes, and i will be calling also :)

Ladybug said...

This may be the source of the GH award but I don't know for sure. I googled the story and here's what I came up with:

http://www.blogfabulous.com/kate-gosselin-dirty-kids/

"There’s no way on God’s Green Earth that I would want to do laundry for 10 people, and you obviously deserve the Good Housekeeping Award for keeping a house of 10 people presentable enough to be on TV every day.

But, dirty and messy kids really isn’t the end of the world."

There is also an entry on the blog "Musing from the Moon". But IMO it is purely satirical. Unfortunately that is how rumors get started and why we have to be cautious about what we read/inerpret and write on the internet.

This doesn't mean I am defending Kate and Jon Gosselin. I do not. But I am all for playing fair in the game of life, even if they aren't.

Just my 2 cents.

Serena said...

This may be the source of the GH award but I don't know for sure. I googled the story and here's what I came up with:

I don't know if Good Housekeeping selecting Kate Gosselin as Mother of the Month is true, but I can tell you that it probably originated with the fact that the title of the episode schedule to air on October 6th is "Good Housekeeping Photo Shoot".

Ladybug said...

Serena said...
I don't know if Good Housekeeping selecting Kate Gosselin as Mother of the Month is true, but I can tell you that it probably originated with the fact that the title of the episode schedule to air on October 6th is "Good Housekeeping Photo Shoot".

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Okay thanks for pointing that out. I didn't see it. And thanks for saving me some $$$. I won't support any magazine that contributes to the continued exploitation of those kids.

Liz said...

This is a response to someone mentioning earlier that the children have to go to the bathroom quite frequently. This is one of the most potent signs of anxiety and apprehension in young children; most often, it is a mental, rather than physical, sense of urgency.

Hmmm . . . I wonder why any child growing up in that would feel anxious. I can't fathom it. Can you?

Sera said...

Sorry, didn't know where to post this...Just as an FYI...for anyone wanting to catch up or see which episodes have been edited post-original air date, TLC is having a J&K+8 marathon this Monday beginning at 4 pm until 9pm, at which time the new episode will air.

Here's a list of the episodes airing starting at 4 pm:
4:00p Day in The Life
4:30p Family Photo Shoot
5:00p Color Me Gosselin (Crayola Factory, Joooooooooooooon!)
5:30p Alexis and Collin
6:00p Games Gosselins Play
6:30p Discipline
7:00p Korean Dinner
7:30p Sextuplets Turn Four (aka CupcakeGate)
8:00p Embarrassing and Favourite Moments
8:30p Wild Horses
9:00p Kate's Labour Day (new episode)
10:00p Family Movie Night

laurajean said...

Add me to the list of those who wrote GH:
"To Whom it May Concern, As a mother of two myself, I am extremely disheartened that a women's magazine that has been held in high regard for many, many years, by generations of girls that grow up to subscribe to your magazine because it was a reading staple of their mothers finds it appropriate to honor a woman who is, in my opinion, a perfect example of what a mother should NOT be. Please reconsider. Thank you."

Anonymous said...

Here is the email I sent to GH. No reply yet.

I understand that Kate and Jon Gosselin (and their children) will be featured in an upcoming issue of Good Housekeeping. This is both extremely disturbing and disappointing to me. Good Housekeeping has been a long-standing institution in this country and I am shocked that you would even consider featuring them in your magazine. Please allow me to share with you why I find Kate Gosselin and her husband so profoundly offensive. The Gosselins are using their eight children (the twins and the sextuplets) to generate income for them so they never have to work again. Having a camera crew in their home four days per week for at least 12 hours per day filming their childrens' most intimate moments (going to the bathroom, taking a bath, being sick and vomiting, among others) is child exploitation, pure and simple. Also, are you aware that industrial lights and cameras have been permanently installed in the childrens' bedrooms to film them in their most vulnerable moments? This is unacceptable. Kate Gosselin is not a supermom. If you have ever watched this show, Jon & Kate Plus Eight, it is easy to see that Kate is a disturbed woman. You do not need to be a mental health professional to see that not only is she not a supermom, she is clearly unstable. Do you really think she embodies the values for which Good Housekeeping has stood for all these years?

Additionally, the Gosselins portray themselves as being poor raising their eight children. This is simply a lie. The Gosselins have a personal chef, a multitude of staff who work for them, and Kate is, in fact, not involved with those children. They are mere commodities to be used as her personal income generator. They are the "product" she is selling. This is despicable.

I will never buy Good Housekeeping magazine ever again and I will be sure to share with my friends, family, and acquaintances that they should not buy or ever subscribe to it. We cannot and will not buy or subscribe to any publication that promotes child exploitation as GH is clearly doing by featuring the Gosselins. Obviously, you are playing fast and loose with you’re here-to-fore reputable "Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval."

I urge you to stop this promotion of child exploitation and not move ahead with the Gosselin feature. It is what is needed to protect the Gosselin children and other children who are in reality TV shows and have no laws to protect them. Keep your good name and stop this madness today.

Thank you.

Mollybloom said...

I wrote an email to GH and received the same reply as luvmytwins except that my answer didn't confirm or deny that Kate Gosselin was being honored for anything. This was in the past week.

hellokitty said...

I suggest everyone use The Way Back Machine website and look at past pages of sixgosselins. I know many things have been put up , but there are even MORE pages to look though using this search engine.

Such as Kate shopping around her story for that upcoming book:
http://web.archive.org/web/20071023173912/http://www.sixgosselins.com/

and an Items for sale page:
http://web.archive.org/web/20071024044349/www.sixgosselins.com/Items_for_Sale.html

At one point I even saw a pic of them visiting Kate's tummy surgeon with all of the children. However, there is no telling if they are still in contact.

Christi said...

Is GH the magazine with the "Can this Marriage be Saved?" column? That would be a perfect place to feature Jon & Kate (aka Harpy & Doormat).

Anonymous said...

You are assuming she does not have a softer side. Do you know her?

No assumption necessary. Yes, I do know her.

themrs said...

i went to the way back machine site (which BTW i had never heard of, really cool :) and i noticed on their site they used to have things to sell. didn't they say that all the stuff that was donated would be given away when they were finished? or were those things that they purchased themselves? just wondering...

laurajean said...

"Is GH the magazine with the "Can this Marriage be Saved?" column? That would be a perfect place to feature Jon & Kate"

No, that is Ladies Home Journal, but what a good idea.

hellokitty said...

Honestly, I have NOT been on the way back machine site all day, but I just found this:

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2006/5/prweb389275.htm

http://www.thedailystroll.com/getgosselinsastroller.html

It just seems like even back in 2006, Kate figured out a way to play on people's emotions and was able to get that six-seater stroller for free.

FIONA said...

If I had kids I would not let them watch this show.

The tups and twins should not hear their parents make such negative comments.

8/29/2008 9:19 AM
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Boy do I ever agree with you on this. I am surprised it hasn't been brought up more. I would NOT allow my kids to watch this show!!! I think it sets a bad example, is not what I would call family TV at all! It is as bad as the Simpsons or South Park. Extremely controversial, not politically correct, and shows real children being humiliated and belittled by their parents. UH UH!!!!

laurajean said...

Has anyone picked up the 9/1 US magazine referenced from the poster above. I don't know why, but that picture on page 22 just makes my blood boil.....why is someone so undeserved showered with flowers and accolades of a public celebrity? Gosh, can't you just smell the scent of the leis and imagine the indulgence of sunning yourself on the shores of a beautiful beach???? grrrrr, the ugly head of jealousy does sometime intrude but the consolation however is that I might be struggling as a single mother of two darling daughters but at least my integrity is intact....and however unfavorable the following opinion of mine might be, I do agree with the poster earlier that this site should not de-generate into a petty Kate bashing vitriol.....that kind of cattiness discredits the purpose we all hold dear to our heart.....ensuring the Gosselin children grow up happy and loved.

AireZoe said...

Does anyone ever watch an old Brit-com called Keeping Up Appearances? Kate is starting to remind me (Sheridan aside) of Hyacinth in that show, constantly bossing and demanding and being demeaning to her husband;

My favorite show! But Kate could never be as ultimately kind as Hyacinth is to her family. She has a giant soft spot for them and what's more, realizes she is often an ass with her pretensions and social climbing. Somehow, I think Kate will never "get it."

While I'm commenting on TV personalities; to me, comparing Kate to Tammy Faye is dissing Tammy. I watched her on the Surreal Life and she was kind, accepting of others, nonjudgemental and seriously, a classy woman. To me, there is no comparison with the Tammy I saw and the Kate I see.

Anonymous said...

"There maybe a softer side to Kate that we don't see"

Why would she chose not to allow viewers the opportunity to see MORE of her 'softer side'? Does the 'softer side' conflict with her reality tv persona?

CarolSue said...

I also E-mailed GH & the reply(My approach seems much different)Maybe the Texan in me--


Good Morning,

I've just come in after taking my grdaughter to school--
I stopped in the teachers lounge to be met with the news--

Good Housekeeping has named, Kate Gosselin Mom of the Month-

What in the world? Your research dept. is on extended vacation?

Kate is the poster child of how not to parent-

I hope this is a joke-

If this is true I'll buy a gallon of gas instead of the white trash you are promoting-

By condoning her verbal abuse, put downs, love pats and general ignorance you will be giving every abusive parent a hip hip hooray-

The thought of any of this is sickening-

Exactly what will your seal mean after this sham?


Respectfully(for now),

Carol



Thank you for writing.
We appreciate it that you took the time to share your opinions with us. It is important for us to hear what our readers are thinking.
Your e-mail was forwarded to our top editors.

In answer to our question on what our Seal means, this is Good Housekeeping 's Limited Warranty: If any product that bears our Seal or is advertised in this issue (with some exceptions) proves to be defective within two years from the date it was first sold to a consumer, we, Good Housekeeping, will replace the product or refund the purchase price.

The complete Good Housekeeping Consumers' Refund or Replacement Policy can be found in each issue of the magazine in the column "How Our Magazine and the Seal Protect You".

Sincerely,
Marjorie Cubisino, Director
Consumer & Reader Services
Good Housekeeping Research Institute

Anonymous said...

anonymous said...
To Laurie at 7:08

I don't doubt that there is a 'private chef'. Most production companies hire a lunch cart for the crew and staff on the job site.

Are we to expect Kate Gosselin to feed the crew and get paid five bucks a sandwich? Or is one guy supposed to get sent off everyday to McDonalds and pruchase the crews lunch order? If that were the case, I'd probably quit that job over my eventual sickness of fast food.

They film three days a week. Maybe on those three days, when they are busy with editing, giving diary room confessionals, and discussing production with Jen- Jon and Kate also partake in the lunch cart so that they have more time for such things. I would find that similar to stoppign in at Burger King on the way home when you knwo you have alot to do and cooking a dinner isn't a realistic option. I would not fault Jon and Kate this 'luxury' at all.

8/29/2008 11:16 AM

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Just another indication that these kids are working! Sounds like a sound stage to me!

Anonymous said...

luvmytwins said...
OMG! My sister wrote to GH last night complaining about the Kate Gosselin Mother of the Month crap and they replied with "simply not true that we are honoring Kate Gosselin as Mother of the Month"!!! WTF!!!!

They may not be honoring Kate as "Mother of the Month" in so many words. But, they may still be featuring her as some type of supermom since there is an episode devoted to the Good Housekeeping Photo Shoot.
I think it is still important to write to Good Housekeeping.

beachluvin said...

carolsue said:
In answer to our question on what our Seal means, this is Good Housekeeping 's Limited Warranty: If any product that bears our Seal or is advertised in this issue (with some exceptions) proves to be defective within two years from the date it was first sold to a consumer, we, Good Housekeeping, will replace the product or refund the purchase price.

The complete Good Housekeeping Consumers' Refund or Replacement Policy can be found in each issue of the magazine in the column "How Our Magazine and the Seal Protect You".


So, if Good Housekeeping names her as Mother of the Month and receives their seal of approval can the kids or Jon return her since she is defective as a mother? Or better yet, replace her? Fuzzy Bunny or Jen anyone?

IMHO said...

In light of today's newest topic, "Give a Beggar a Dime",yes, this does seem shallow. However, I must Hello Kitty said: "It just seems like even back in 2006, Kate figured out a way to play on people's emotions and was able to get that six-seater stroller for free"
confess, that in 2006, I would not have been upset with the Gosselins looking for things like the 6 seater, because back then, Jon was working and I don't think they had all the freebies and cash, and probably needed help getting the stroller.

When I look at the "way back machine" stuff, the only thing that bothers me is this "how did you get HERE from THERE?" Where, Jon and Kate, did you lose your sense of purpose in the world?

Speaking of Purpose, Rick Warren, the author of the fabulous Purpose Driven Life, is reported to have practiced reverse tithing when the book was in it's hey day and making tons of money even at it's low price (I was able to buy a hardcover for only $7). So he kept 10% of his income, which was huge, and gave 90% back. 90%!!!! He only needed so much to live on and did not want to get caught up in the greedy hold money puts on you. God tells us if we are blessed to be a blessing to others.

K.C. said...

Anon11:16,

What you are referring to is called craft services and used on tv/movie sets. As Anon10:43, (above), mentioned, if this were the case it would certainly prove these minor children are indeed 'working' as opposed to just being followed around with cameras. Either way, based on what Julie and others have said, J&K have a private chef--not a craft services table. Their meals are delivered several times per week along with fresh cut flowers and bottles of wine. If you haven't read Julie's blog and/or her comments here, (thetruthwillsetyoufree), you really should. (IMO) It's very enlightening.
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FIONA said...
I would NOT allow my kids to watch this show!!! I think it sets a bad example, is not what I would call family TV at all! It is as bad as the Simpsons or South Park. Extremely controversial, not politically correct, and shows real children being humiliated and belittled by their parents. UH UH!!!!

Fiona,
I agree with you 100%! I screen all TV shows and movies before my daughter sees them. If I don't think the content is acceptable, she doesn't get to watch. Needless to say, she has not seen J&K+8 in quite some time. It's a shame too, I really enjoyed cuddling up with my little girl and watching the show. Now we play animal rummy for 30 minutes instead.

Anonymous said...

So, this may be a little off topic...
but I am watching "Mommie Dearest" right now... and I see Kate Gosselin! The clean freak... locking a child in the pool house (like Joel in the laundry room), throwing away the daughters 2 babies (threatening to throw away Joel's security item)...
Hmmm... something to think about...

Elissssabeth said...

Here's what I wrote to TLC this morning:

My comment is this:
I used to love this program, since it showed a family surviving with 8 young children, and they seemed normal. They were an inspiration to this first-time mom. But in this season's episodes, Kate seems to have alienated all of her volunteers, friends, and family, as well as she and Jon trying to maintain a lifestyle not attainable for most of us in the world with children to look after, such as their spa days, gym memberships, and hair restoration.

I don't watch the show anymore, and neither does my husband, who was finally disgusted by the way Kate treats her husband like a child to be scolded and publicly humiliated all the time.


I have to wonder if the decline of the love in this family has more to do with their true colors shining through, or whether the stress of having a tv crew around 24/7 is getting to them, OR if the editors of the show are choosing to show only the dark side of Kate. I am guessing it is the first choice, which is why I can't stand to watch anymore and hope the show will be taken off the air for the sake of the mental health of the kids in that family. They need help, most especially Kate needs to see how she is hurting her family.

I truly hope my comments will be considered, if only for the hope that those 8 children might gain back their happy family, friends, and helpers.

Anonymous said...

What we are witnessing on this show beside the child exploitation and the spousal abuse.
Is a production companies exploitation of a woman with a clearly untreated mental illness. This woman needs some help. Not more clothes from the gap, not more vacations, or jewerly.
I see nothing entertaining about watching these people suffer week after week, and watching peoples lives being destroyed before our very eyes.
All the money that they are generating is not going to amount to anything if no one likes you. Rest assure Kates popularity amongst viewers is dwindling. Kate people are on to you and they are slowly starting to not like you. Take note of this. I predict this time next year your show will be no more and you will be left with 8 kids you do not want and a husband that you do not love. Kate stop the madness and check yourself into a mental hospital you need help, and stop exploiting your children. People have had enough.

Anonymous said...

threefarmers, do you know the G's? You mentioned that you live 4 states away but you also knew how to look up their property, I assume you must know their address in order to do that. Just curious about who on this board really "know's" the G's. Someone else asked bk the question "is Kate really that bad". When I read the post from the lady at "cafemom" who said Kate asked her to not speak to her child, my jaw dropped! I just find it hard to believe that she's really "that bad". Can anyone else relate to what I'm saying?

Anonymous said...

I viewed the interview that Kate had and in IMO that woman is a fraud. She says that she clips coupons. Why clip coupons when she gets everything for free and that includes food. What a liar this woman is.
This couple is like a Jim and Tammy Baker. Except they are using their children to con the public.
I am writing to the National Enquirer to take a second look at this family. I am also going to write to Larry King live and Tara Banks. Tara Banks will ask this family the hard questions.

Anonymous said...

That was supposed to by Tyra Banks not Tara

Barbara in VA said...

I don't think Tyra, if given the chance, would pin down Kon. I just really don't. There is, however, a British reporter, a man, and I wish I could remember his name -- anyone? Anyway, he used to make Tony Blair squirm because he is the most direct questioner ever IMO. That would be the definitive interview, but that will never ever happen.

DJ said...

To anonymous who wondered if Kate really was as rude as one person said - I believe there have been several stories on here about times where people have come in contact with Kate and she was very rude to them. If you read the current blog "give a begger a dime" BK has just posted an another example of this happening.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

luvmytwins said...
OMG! My sister wrote to GH last night complaining about the Kate Gosselin Mother of the Month crap and they replied with "simply not true that we are honoring Kate Gosselin as Mother of the Month"!!! WTF!!!!

They may not be honoring Kate as "Mother of the Month" in so many words. But, they may still be featuring her as some type of supermom since there is an episode devoted to the Good Housekeeping Photo Shoot.
I think it is still important to write to Good Housekeeping.


What is truly interesting now is that the letter from GH has changed dramatically to actually stating they ARE NOT honoring her as M o M. Regardless of whether they were in fact doing that or not, the fact that they have changed their outgoing letter says one thing to me. That they have been inundated with negative letters.

Lonnyswife said...

Sorry moderators-
I just popped one thru without singing it-
Lonnyswife

Regarding the change of tone in the GH response letters.
Again-so sorry!

Barbara in VA said...

Along with the "Free Joel" T-shirts I propose one that says "Run, Jon, Run". Have to make sure that Kon doesn't have grounds to sue us for the proceeds because you know they would!

Anonymous said...

Anyone else find it super funny the camera crew just watched the whole "gum thing" happen? I'm sure they knew Kate wouldn't want three year olds chewing gum. I mean come on.
I was giggling to myself the whole time. I can think of so many gummy troubles I got into as a kid..
ahah good times.

Barbara in VA said...

Larry King is the softball interviewer of the world. He could interview Bin Laden and never hurt the guy's feelings. In fact, he would give them such a boost. We need some reporters that are just going to get the facts and not buy into the Kon at all. Hmmmmm...other than the British guy, let me think...

K.C. said...

DJ said...To anonymous who wondered if Kate really was as rude as one person said - I believe there have been several stories on here about times where people have come in contact with Kate and she was very rude to them....

If you would like more examples of J&K's behavior, click on the Gosselin Sightings button. It's in the top right-hand corner of every page.

K.C. said...

While we're on the subject of getting the truth out...I've read a few comments regarding spreading the word about J&K to those people who don't use the internet often. I think that's a great point. I've heard that J&K are discussed on the local radio stations in their area. What about the rest of the country? Anyone can call in to a talk radio show. J&K have enough issues that we should be able to work them into just about any topic. Just a random thought...

Sera said...

Barbara in VA said...
Larry King is the softball interviewer of the world. He could interview Bin Laden and never hurt the guy's feelings. In fact, he would give them such a boost. We need some reporters that are just going to get the facts and not buy into the Kon at all. Hmmmmm...other than the British guy, let me think...

8/30/2008 5:53 PM


I think Nancy Grace would tear them to shreds. She cannot stand parents who exploit or take advantage of her children, and she has always been an advocate for victim's rights since her finace was murdered. Say what you will about Nancy, I know she can be polarizing to many, but she has a good BS detector.

News Bug at 6 said...

I believe the British reporter most are referring to is Martin Bashir - the man who in 1995 interviewed Princess Diana on her marriage/infidelity and in 2003 exposed Michael Jackson's lifestyle to the public and thus created the frenzy and legal problems that followed. He would do a great job exposing the Gosselins in their true light and would ask the hard questions about exploitation and childhood lost and the verbal and emotional abuse Kate inflicts on her children we witness in every episode. I also nominate Chris Hanson from Dateline, and certainly Nancy Grace, for a knock down interview of hard pressing parenting questions. (Just dreaming of course.) Current print and TV interviews have been very soft aka the Today show 6/12/08
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQqIDlAmDfA&feature=related

when Natalie Morales started her interview with "Did you expect you'd be doing it this long?" referring to the show going into the 4th season.... Kate could hardly muster a complete thought about that. And concludes, "its definately a job." So sad that Kate's a lifetime member of the mother's club. She doesn't know how to enjoy motherhood and her children.

Barbara in VA said...

Nancy Grace would be a really good one. I love her. She has seen it all and I don't think Kon would be able to con her.

Nope, not Martin, although he would be terrific. The man I'm thinking about it even more direct. The very next time I see him on BBC I will run to my computer to post his name and hopefully I'm able to find a contact point for him on a web site. Although I don't know if he'd be interested in this little American drama couple and if Kon's PR people are at all bright they would never let an interview like that happen.

Anonymous said...

Are you thinking of Jeremy Paxman?

Barbara in VA said...

Is he the reporter who asked Tony Blair if he, Tony, and George Bush prayed together?

Anonymous said...

Or something equally revealing. Too bad J&K will never do such an interview. Now, that would be worth paying for.

Barbara in VA said...

I think Kon is arrogant enough to do an interview with him, and I would pay to see that. I also think if they have a PR firm of any quality that interview would never happen. Also they are probably totally unknown to a journalist of his stature. But Martin just might do it and Nancy Grace just might.

GJ said...

Sorry, I don't know where to post this. I know I had read a bunch of posts of those who had written to GH but was wondering if anyone got a reply? I sent them an email about how upset I was that they'd decided to nominate Kate as Mother of the Month, etc. and got this reply:

"Thank you for writing.
We appreciate it that you took the time to share your opinions with us. It is important for us to hear what our readers are thinking.It is not true that we have nominated Kate as mother of the month. We do not have a feature like this in Good Housekeeping.
Your e-mail was forwarded to our top editors.

Sincerely,
Marjorie Cubisino, Director
Consumer & Reader Services
Good Housekeeping Research Institute"

Did anyone else get a similar reply?

Barbara in VA said...

Just FYI, that is not like the comment I got back from Good Housekeeping. Mine was much more of a form letter, definitely less specific. Maybe they've actually looked into what we are saying? Hope so.

luvmytwins said...

Ok, here's the deal. There was some confusion b/c she was nominated on some Parenting website as Mother of the Month, and is featured in GH due to her stupid BOOK. So thats it, but she is still being featured in GH. They are printing an excerpt from her book (gag me). THey should make enough off this piece of crap book to retire them all from the series...

Anonymous said...

Who in this universe would buy her book? GH should know better than to print an exerpt from her book and I am going to write and tell their editor that. Wishful thinking that the sales of the book or any amount of money will get these two losers off TV. They are eating up what they consider their fame just as they are probably eating up the money earned by those tiny little ones. No one gives two hoots about Katie Irene or Jon -- don't they see that? No one would've watched their show if the kids weren't featured and almost everyone wants more kids and less THEM. How can they not know that? Have these two people so isolated themselves that they are able to live in a delusional alternate universe?

luvmytwins said...

Lots of people have already PRE-ORDERED this book. One of the posters here works in publishing and says they will be making a pretty penny off this book, probably NY Times best seller. Sooo... yeah, lots of $$$. And she wants to write a cookbook, as well. That I heard directly from Jon. Maybe if we're lucky enough they WILL make lots of $$$ and cancel that disgusting exploitative show and leave their children to a semi-normal childhood.

Barbara in VA said...

There are books I have read that I would never buy because I didn't want the publisher or author to get any money. Went to the library and when the book was available I read it. Gingrich (sp?), wouldn't give him a penny, but read the book; same with Hillary. If any of you all are interested in what Kon wants to put out there in book form (and seriously, what could she possibly say that wasn't garbage anyway), please wait until it is in your library and you can get it that way. Then make sure you have some Pepto at the ready because I know you'll have trouble keeping your lunch down.