Episode Recap: Plane Ride to Utah - 02/25/2008

Reprinted with permission from Dew.

On this episode of Jon and Kate Plus 8! Crying! Screaming! Tantrums! Only difference is this all takes place 20,000 feet in the air.

Credits. Sigh, what a cute show. If you only watched the credits.

The kids are kind of hanging around the living room and sitting on the stairs. There isn't a lot of room for them to be elsewhere with a ton of suitcases strewn all over the floor. Jon shouts, "Off the steps now! That's all I need before we leave is a broken leg!" ...continued

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EPISODE RECAP: PLANE RIDE TO UTAH - 02/25/2008

Reprinted with permission from Dew.

On this episode of Jon and Kate Plus 8! Crying! Screaming! Tantrums! Only difference is this all takes place 20,000 feet in the air.

Credits. Sigh, what a cute show. If you only watched the credits.

The kids are kind of hanging around the living room and sitting on the stairs. There isn't a lot of room for them to be elsewhere with a ton of suitcases strewn all over the floor. Jon shouts, "Off the steps now! That's all I need before we leave is a broken leg!"

So they can't … sit on the steps? That's a little odd. It's not like they were sliding down the banister or jumping from the top or something. But the rules in this house change on a daily and sometimes even hourly basis, so I figure this is just another random rule change that will invariable confuse these poor little children. No being on the steps. Does that mean, like, ever? They can't ever go upstairs if they are downstairs, or downstairs if they are upstairs? You can see how this would baffle kids. Already this episode is irritating.

Kate is outside spraying some toxic chemicals on boots. But at least she is outside, so it can travel up to the ozone a lot easier. I wonder what Sara Snow would say about that one. As she loves to do, she exaggerates and tells us she is waterproofing 4,000 pairs of shoes. Actually, that might not be an exaggeration, given all the freebies they have collected over the years. And who are they to say no to 4,000 pairs of shoes? I know of this great charity that allows you to donate used or new shoes to barefoot children in Mexico so they won't get tetanus and can walk to school and things like that. Call me, Kate. I'll put you in touch. They'll even take waterproofed stuff, even though it's not usually an issue down there since those kids will never get the opportunity to go on a ski trip, ever, most likely.

Jon says the Candyman's Resort in Park City, Utah, invited them all to come out and spend the week skiing and snowboarding. On their dime, I assume. Who are they to say no? So of course they're going. My mom told me not to take candy from the creepy candy man. But I was raised to approach new things and strange people with an ounce of healthy caution.

"Isn't it obvious what I was looking forward to?" Kate says in that tone she likes to embody where she thinks she's being as funny as that actually funny comedian who sounds like her, Ellen. Only this is a case where I am not laughing with her, as she likes to think, but at her. In another time, place and dimension she is looking forward to spending quality time with her children and husband. But this is the here and now, and I'm gonna take a wild guess and say she is looking forward to…the spa? Ding-ding, you are correct, sir! Kate is looking forward to the spa. Jon makes a dorky little face at her. I almost think he too may be laughing at her, not with her. Heh.

Kate is packing these cute little travel backpacks with things like a snack, coloring books, and crayons. That's a good idea, because this is a long flight, and you should also plan that the flight could be delayed or rerouted, especially in winter. Except I thought you couldn't take food through security anymore, last time I flew. That's going to be annoying to have to throw out six little snacks before going through security, and could cause a meltdown I predict. Oh, she packed a toy truck for the boys. Because as long as they're going to be stuck on a plane all day you might as well take the opportunity to reinforce gender roles. Kate admits that the backpacks weren't really made with the intention to keep the kids happy, but so she doesn't have to get up and hand them stuff. Yes, it is so very difficult to hand your children things when they're sitting right next to you. This woman really cannot do anything for her kids selflessly, so I've given up hoping.

Speaking of Ellen, Kate says they've flown before once with the sextuplets to L.A. to do the Ellen show. She leaves out the part about how they flew back with eight free bikes. Also, I don't really believe they've only flown with these children once. They go so many places all the time, even before this episode aired. I think they are just saying that to make flying with them seem more unknown and dramatic. Kids who fly all the time doesn't make for a very exciting episode about a plane trip. Just like kids who go on trips all the time doesn't make for a very exciting episode about yet another trip. It is the novelty that is interesting. But if the children truly haven't flown but once before, then Kate just admitted that all those weekends she was gone on speaking engagements? She was gone from the children, too. Nice.

This episode is shaping out to be kind of helpful for a few seconds, with tips on how to fly with children for long periods. Food, comfort items like stuffed animals, and distractionary toys are a necessity. Is distractionary a word? My Spellcheck thinks not, but Spellcheck is not about to get into an argument with Kate over it. Spellcheck is wise like that.

Mady wants to take a backpack like the little kids. Fine, why not? Kate presses her hand to her (Kate's) mouth like she is pondering the Louisiana purchase. I'm sorry, is this a big deal? I cannot believe they don't have one backpack in the entire house that would be suitable for Mady to take on the plane. Send the child off to get it, problem solved. They don't tell us how this one turned out, but probably with a meltdown and temper tantrum from Mady, and Kate remarking how she has drama and issues.

Jon is so excited and nervous for this trip since he hasn't been snowboarding in ten years. I think that just about corresponds to when he met Kate. Yup, Kate confirms it, like she's proud of this or something. She must store his old snowboard right next to his balls. Maybe even in a glass case.

Kate is holding up some keys or something and instructing the twins that they can only take out plastic bags from their bags, and talking about some bin. What? I am completely and thoroughly confused. The twins look at her like she's crazy, and annoying. Even not having any context for this conversation, I concur. Seriously, editors, why put in two sentences of a conversation that make no sense? Unless they want to make Kate look neurotic and crazy, which very well could be since they know that's why so many of us watch, or rather can't look away. I think it would be fun to come up with our own context for this conversation, such as, these are the keys to my soul, girls, which I have thoroughly sold out ages ago. You can only take out plastic bags from your carry-ons when you are emptying number two from the potties, which you will be helping with. When you are done emptying the potties into your bag, throw your bag in the provided bins. Hey, as likely as anything else.

Is it really efficient to pack downstairs? I'm not so sure, since most of their clothes are upstairs. Maybe it was easier to fit the camera crew in the living room. A tally said they packed 13 suitcases. They even had to buy suitcases because they didn't have enough. They also shipped stuff out. Having once gone in the hole just to ship three boxes of my junk across the country when I moved, I can attest that shipping stuff? It's freaking expensive. This trip is maxing out the average American's credit card just to get everyone out there. I hope they appreciate how free this all is. Probably not though.

Kate says she thinks viewers will wonder why they are forcing their kids to go through with this stressful trip. I was more wondering how free this trip was, but this could be interesting. Go ahead, Kate. She says it's because, "I want my kids to have life experiences because I didn't." Oh, burn, another knock at her family and how they didn't do enough for her. She seriously can't help herself, can she?

Kate goes on to say: "We don't care the toll it takes on us. We don't care our exhaustion level and the frustration level." I wonder if she is talking about the show in general, too. Sure seems like it. I agree it's nice the children can experience things like skiing and plane rides. However I don't agree that you have to be exhausted and frustrated and burn yourself out doing it. There is a fine balance here that these parents have never found and don't even seem to be looking for. And I also think that sometimes children just want to stay home and spend time with their parents, which often means more than the most extravagant of vacations, especially if your mother is locked away in the spa the whole time anyway.

In an incredibly hypocritical and ironic move that would be downright laughable if it weren't about her children's safety, Kate covers up their stitched backpack names with a piece of duct tape. She says she doesn't want strangers luring them away by calling their names. Get a grip, lady! Your kids are plastered all over every American's T.V. sets every Monday night. Millions watch them. And if you watch the show, you know all their names already. I didn't forget Collin's name or Leah's name because a piece of tape was there. And she is concerned about predators now? Not, like, when she started this show? Too little too late, Kate. And very obviously damage control. Also, it's their parents fault in the first place these children are so trusting of strangers given how much their parents expose them to a string of nannies and helpers, producers and crew. Covering up their names is something someone would do when they also wouldn't let their very little children be seen on national T.V. Someone who is truly concerned for their children's safety above fame and fortune. That ain't you, Kate, sorry. And one more point. This is yet another case of Kate and Jon not addressing the real problem. Instead of, gasp, teaching their children not to talk to strangers let alone go with them, they simply stick a piece of tape over their names. Nice one.

My God, some unsuspecting ski clothing company donated a bunch of jackets and hats and pants. At a cost of several thousand dollars I would imagine. At least they are admitting this is a donation, although I didn't hear a thank you. Where are they going to store all this stuff all summer in that "tiny" little house? The kids get all dressed up inside. That looks hot, and not in the Paris Hilton way.

Coming up, Kate asks, "Can you imagine six kids, putting them on and off the potty?" Actually I can, because I used to teach the preschooler class at Vacation Bible School. Any other teachers out there who have managed this just fine?

We're back! Four a.m. Oh, God, I can just imagine Kate at that hour. She's bad enough at 8:30 a.m. just rolling out of bed when the rest of America's mothers have already completed a third of what they need to do that day. Funny, they don't even show Kate. I wonder if she got to sleep in and Jon carried her to the car or something. Yowser, they got a limousine to take them to the airport, because they were out of buses, or so Jon claims. I don't believe this at all, and the fact that Jon averts his eyes and kind of smiles just bolsters my opinion. I think they got a limo because they're celebrities, or like to think they are, and they stupidly think all celebrities take limos to the airport, which is absolutely not the case. Having seen a handful of celebrities arriving or disembarking from LAX, it is surprisingly true that some celebrities just go with a friend or employee, or get a regular car, or even take a taxi. Because a limo? Is basically a waste of money, even if you're rich. The children will think all people ride to the airport in stretch limos, and not squeezed in the back seat of your roommate's Honda sandwiched in between your luggage and your roommate's tennis equipment while your roommate kind of passive aggressively hints that you should chip in for gas.

The kids are mostly ready, but the parents don't wake up Alexis until the last minute because she is a "bear." Grizzly or black bear? I hope black bear, which are mostly just a nuisance. Whereas grizzly bears actually will rip you to shreds from the inside out the second they get the chance. She seems too sweet for that. Apparently Alexis wakes up everyone early in the morning. But Kate and Jon don't punish her, talk to her, or otherwise try to correct this little issue. They just banish her to the basement. That's right, the basement. Alexis sleeps in the basement! I guess she really is a bear, hibernating all by herself in the dark down there. I'm not even going to say her name, but some years ago there was a little girl a little older than Alexis who was tragically killed when the perpetrator broke in through a basement window. This is truly very concerning poor little Alexis is down there all by herself, and moreover, that it is shouted from the rooftops to all who watch this show. Meanwhile Kate is busy making sure the tape is sticking to their backpacks I assume. There is nothing funny about this, this is just crazy. I think it's appropriate to quote the learned Paul Peterson here, "Parenting is not a spectator sport." For whatever screwed up reasons Kate and Jon want Alexis to sleep in the basement, none of us spectators should have ever under any circumstances been privy to it. Thank you, Paul.

Oh and by the way, we first heard about Alexis sleeping in the basement on Oprah some time before this episode. And all the kids were on the show. Did they seriously drive all the way to Chicago, or did they fly? Me thinks they flew. And I think they talked about flying on Oprah. I call bullshit on these kids not knowing anything about flying. They are seasoned travelers, and Kate can stop pretending otherwise.

The kids call the airplane, "hair pain." That's kinda cute. Kate and Jon have to make fun of them though, of course. Their next phrase will be, Mom, you're a pain.

Oh Christ, it's not even a regular limo, it's like an SUV stretch a million miles long, to exaggerate like Kate. Kayla and Beth are waiting to meet them at the airport to help them on the trip. Who the heck is Kayla? Wait, this is the new nanny I think. Or was she Carla's daughter? I seriously cannot keep all these helpers/moochers straight. Thank goodness a graphic lets us know she is Beth's spawn. Oh, that Kayla! Okay! Very helpful graphic, TLC. Way to label the cornucopia of helpers so there's no confusion. It's sad there's enough people this involved in these children's lives to even require a graphic in the first place. We haven't seen Beth in so very long, it's somewhat shocking and frankly a bit sad to look back and see her treated like just another favorite aunt just a short time ago. Seriously, do they want to explain what happened to this kind lady? It's sort of an elephant in the room. A big, smelly one.

It's a big deal to go on a family trip with another family, if I may say so. You can bond with children very fast when you spend twenty-four hours a day with them. I think it's very tragic Beth is clearly out of their lives at the moment, especially after all the time she spent with them. But I will leave that issue aside for now since it's such a lengthy one.

Kate herds them through the airport and makes them do stupid stuff like put their hands on the counter where Kate can see them. These kids are so tired at this hour they're just kind of standing there and allowing the adults to shuffle them here or there. Is this really necessary? Even one of the boys asks, "Why???" Haha, you'll be saying why a lot in therapy in a few years time, son.

Everyone is being great, except Mady, Kate tells us. She is being "blaaah!" Yes, she actually says this about her child. As if you are such a beautiful morning person Miss I roll out of bed at 8:30 a.m. with my coffee personally delivered to my bedside Gosselin. My closed caption says that Mady says tearfully, "I wish I had something to do other than just standing here." What a horrible, grouchy child! She wants to help! How dare she! Maybe she could like hold a piece of luggage or "help" in some other way, if her parents would take five seconds out to find something age appropriate. Kate reassures her by telling her that she and Mady are going to be buddies on this trip! Yippie! Ehhh, wait. Somehow I don't think that is going to comfort this particular child. If anything it should make her more distraught. It does me. I'm afraid it's gonna be a long week, sister.

There are a ton of dramatics about taking the children to the bathroom. They even brought along their potty seats. Gross. I wish they were on the FAA list of prohibited items. The short story is Kate is a martyr for taking the children to the bathroom in a public place, even with Beth and Kayla to help, which would be….one adult per girl. Or basically the same ratio as the average American family. And Jon can take the boys, so, wow, Kate.

The kids are really cute going through security. Collin gives the security guard a high five as he scurries through the gate. Aw. Security is a pain though necessary, so might as well try to make it fun for the children.

They make things harder for themselves by packing a breakfast and eating it there. Those can't be organic pop tarts I see, with frosting on top. Regardless, very bad for you. Especially when Kate claims her whole goal is to prevent sugar meltdowns. Well, I'm no nutritionist, but a pop tart is just going to make you crash and burn, hate to tell you. Right about when your flight is getting diverted, I predict.

Beth has a good attitude for this time of the morning, and she looks like a chic flight attendant herself in a scarf and with a short haircut. She says it's worth it because the kids ultimately have a good time on these trips and talk about it forever. Gee, she acts like these little kids go on wonderful vacations all the time.

Mady is cuddled up warmly in Beth's lap, looking very content, adding to the tragedy of Beth disappearing from their lives, just when Mady finds someone positive to bond with who doesn't make her feel like she is the family reject.

Joel asks, "Where we going?" I think it's cute how with little kids, no matter how many times you explain things to them and try to keep it simple, they still ask cute questions like that as if you've never discussed this until you step on the plane. Joel is wonderful.

The kids are sweet all lined up at the window watching the airplanes. Joel says, "It needs to come faster!" Oh, he's so sweet.

Strangely, Kate says they usually give the children the choice who they want to sit with on the airplane. First of all, bad idea. Second, I thought you've only flown once. Is this a family tradition already, letting three-year-olds pick their seats? Kate, I'm on to you and your jet-setting ways. Aaden always says he wants to sit with "Bef!" I'm guessing not anymore, now that Beth is sayonara.

They are flying Southwest, which is kind of a cheapo airline for people trying to be celebrities. They don't even have first class. But I think it was the airline they could get free tickets from. I find it amusing that they stick this family in the back of the plane. Good, that's where noisy people should be stuck where the engine might possibly drown them out.

Coming up, now Kate is freaking out about some kind of delay. She is shocked, just shocked, that a plane could be delayed in the middle of winter.

Wow this episode is getting boring. Flying is boring to begin with, but watching other people fly? Yawwwn-fest. Oh, nice, Kate "snatched" away some of the children's Christmas presents and then gave them to them on the plane ride. Isn't that sort of like the premise of How the Grinch Stole Christmas? He gave them back at the end too. And how many presents did these children get to actually not notice at the time some were missing? Geez. All moms do that, Kate claims, defensively. Why is this Grinchette being defensive about this? Be confident if you think it's the right thing to do. It's almost as if Jon or someone told her that was kind of sleazy. Also, I don't think all moms do that, because not all families can afford a mountain of Christmas presents. My family for instance growing up, we got one "big" present and then a stocking of little things. I can promise you I would have noticed if anything in that limited inventory was missing, and been terribly upset. So no, not all moms do that, Kate. And not all kids need to get a toy just for flying on an airplane. They should kind of be expected to behave as a matter of course. Also, in case there is any confusion on her part, not all moms of sextuplets plaster their children's faces all over T.V., but I digress.

Kate is making herself at home on the plane sprawling out over three entire seats. What does she think this is, first class? I want to know where the two kids are that are supposed to be sitting with her. It's not like the plane has a playroom somewhere. Aren't the kids supposed to generally be seated and buckled when not getting up to go to the bathroom, according to airline policy? They're sort of running around everywhere being crazy, and most likely really annoying the rest of the plane.

Jon and Kate explains how they use a potty seat on the plane. It's super boring and I kind of tune out. I also think they are plenty old enough to just sit their butts down on the airplane toilet itself, sans potty seat, and deal with it. Maybe Kate thinks they'll fall out of the plane if they fall in. The kids are starting to lose it now that they're almost there. Does Mady have an Ipod? The kid is only seven. I was twenty-five before I got my first Ipod! I really want to know what is on that thing. I hope she has a playlist called "Mommy Issues" or something along those lines. I hope it's full of really angst-filled singers like Alanis Morrisette in her early days (look up the lyrics to her very relevant song about parents like Kate, called "Perfect," which include, "I'm doing this for your own damn good. What's the problem? Why are you crying?"), and maybe Nirvana, to help her cope with her horrible circumstances. This episode is getting tiring to recap. I hope the plane isn't delayed or anything.

Oh, shit, the plane is delayed. Shit, shit. Will this episode ever end?

Kate says she's never been re-directed before and this makes her panic. She clearly hasn't flown that much, or perhaps has gotten very lucky. I only fly a handful of times a year and I've been re-directed more times than I can count. Anyway, this is good practice for her since she will be flying a lot to keep up with that killer speaking schedule.

They are being diverted 300 miles away to Boise. Ehh, that's like a couple hours I guess. It sucks, I agree, but there is nothing you can do about it. Kate melodramatically says, "it's over." Well, that might be something you want to say when the oxygen masks drop down, but an hour or two delay? I wouldn't exactly say it's over just yet. Kate should keep in mind that through glitches like this, her children will be looking to her for leadership and guidance on how to react. They are learning from her how to handle similar situations in the future. And what is she doing? Melting down, which will in turn cause the children to melt down, and then Kate can play martyr again. Although maybe that was her plan all along. I bet you if she didn't even say anything and behaved like an adult, the little kids wouldn't even NOTICE the plane went anywhere else or the flight was any longer than it should have been. Just a thought.

Here in Boise, they're making everyone stay on the plane, and they're not providing any kind of meal except a pretzel entree. Okay, that really sucks, and that has happened to me before. People have actually been stuck sitting on the runway for eight hours before, where fortunately I was only stuck for two hours once. I absolutely hate when airlines do this, but I also understand why they feel they have to do it. Just a bad situation. Sucks for everybody. You deal with it.

Coming up, Kate panics even more, causing the children to absolutely freak. And she wonders why Mady can be such a drama queen.

One of the girls is absolutely shrieking. Beth is laughing at this. I don't really think it's that funny. But maybe Beth is laughing because that's all you can do in this situation. God, I feel so bad for the rest of the passengers.

Kate is literally sobbing, and she tells us she melted down because every adult needed to have a good cry vicariously through her. Um, I think every adult needed everyone to stay strong and calm and in control. Kind of like how Beth and Kayla are being. Heck, they are even able to laugh about it. Melting down accomplishes absolutely nothing, and just makes you more tired and irritable and panicked. And panics the kids to boot. I couldn't disagree more with Kate's decision to lose it here. And it was a decision.

Kate is afraid if they end up stuck in Boise there will be no where for them to stay because they are such a large group. Maybe in New York City this is a concern, but Boise, Idaho? Although I have heard that Chuck's Motel Eight on main street is always booked, you have to call in advance like 6 months. Not! I think you will be able to find a few vacancies in this bustling metropolis. Actually, I promise you, Kate, you'll find a place to stay, especially with TLC in your corner who can handle everything. Even if Great Aunt Belinda down at the cattle ranch has to open up the attic for you and set up a bunch of moth-eaten cots, you will find a place. Calm down. Geez. I could never travel with someone like this, I freely admit it.

Thank God, they finally take off back to Park City. Beth continues to have a good attitude and claps her hands excitedly, and even Mady is smiling and happy. Kate is being a pessimist. Finally, they land, and unlike other families who have to do everything themselves, the nice airport people bring over one of those huge mobile carts to take them and their luggage where they need to be.

"At some point, Beth, you're gonna say, I'm not going," Kate says. I'm guessing what actually happened was the other way around, in that at some point KATE said, "Beth, you're not going."

Kate talks about going to Hawaii someday and getting remarried. Does she mean renewing her vows, because remarried means marrying a different person, and I don't think anyone else would have her and her howler monkeys at this point. Interesting, because I hear that's coming up in an episode shortly. And this episode aired ages ago. Kate sure is a planner.

The kids have to pee. Jon says, "too bad" more than once. Nice.

They complain about their free 15-passenger rental van and say it's really inconvenient. Oh, boo hoo. And I'm confused, what other kind of car was the rental place supposed to send when you tell them you have eight kids and two helpers and a camera crew? A semi-truck? Clown car? The heck did they want from these people?

Kate says they should be called, "Inconvenient Peeing: The Life with Twins and Sextuplets." Eh, TLC rejected that title. Jon says the sequel could be, "I'm sorry your shoes are wet." Ha, they may have considered that one!

They settle into an absolutely ridiculously huge, mountain-side ski lodge mansion that must cost in the thousands per week and I daresay maybe even 10 thousands, and just when Kate is bragging about how many floors it has and how big it is and how they could even lose their children in it, my Tivo cuts off. Good, because I’m sick of hearing her voice.

On the next Jon and Kate Plus 8: Kate thinks exfoliating treatments and mud baths are her children, and she spends the whole trip having quality time with them.

Sara said...

"The children will think all people ride to the airport in stretch limos, and not squeezed in the back seat of your roommate's Honda sandwiched in between your luggage and your roommate's tennis equipment while your roommate kind of passive aggressively hints that you should chip in for gas."


That is absolutely hilarious! I can just imagine the horror Kate would experience when one of the kids discovers a year-old french fry on the floor and decides it would be a nice snack.

Anonymous said...

Why don't full articles get posted in the main post? Now they're in the comments, so it doesn't show up in RSS feeds in full. Can articles be posted in full in the main post from now on?

Moons in Leo said...

This is the funniest, most spot-on commentary I have read in a very, very long time! Thank you!

Barbara said...

Absolutely hilarious! Who are you anyway, Dew? You have a real way with words. I absolutely love the "howler monkeys" comment. It is so perfectly descriptive of them.

ThreeFarmers said...

Wow this episode is getting boring. Flying is boring to begin with, but watching other people fly? Yawwwn-fest

Unless the other people flying are Kathy Griffin and a bunch of Drag Queens, I'm not interested.

Laura said...

Thank you for addressing Kate's freak out on the plane.

Her behavior really shows how much of a control freak she is. Sometimes things don't go your way, Kate, don't freak out, deal with it, act like a mature adult and get through it. We can't control everything and things won't go our way, i.e. the plane delay.

I'm glad someone else noticed her behavior that was a little too dramatic for a plane delay. Good Grief. I just don't like her.

5monkeys said...

If J&K ever do another "embarrassing moments" episode, Kate's meltdown at the end of this episode just has to be included as one of THE most embarrassing moments.

I am sure it was a very stressful situation with all the kids and the landing delays ~ BUT, instead of being the parent and taking charge of the situation, Kate starts crying and saying "I'm done" over and over. It set such a bad example for the kids, plus made her look like an arse.

I guess Kate took the "if you can beat 'em, join 'em" attitude.

Barbara in VA said...

This was far more entertaining than the actual episode. Thank you for that.

Something you said hit a bell. You don't think, do you, anyone, that Figure 8 is feeding these tiny minded "adults'" egos and is filming the freak outs of Kate and her bad treatment of Jon and the kids on purpose? I guess I mean I wonder if Kate knows that she, her personality, is being used for the country to laugh at, that no one admires her, almost everyone thinks Kon is a scam team? Or are they so naieve (sp?) that they believe they are America's sweethearts?

That stupid crying jag on the plane was ridiculous. How do you expect your kids to learn to handle stress if they see you acting that way? It made me sick. Notice that in the shot Beth is ignoring Kate totally -- she must've been thinking -- "Are you kidding me?". I'll only say that Bef must really love those kids to be around that nutcase.

Anonymous said...

What about how she freaked on the episode when they went to Disney World when the kids were eating ice cream? She was freaking out!!!
She truly has problems. Those poor kids are going to suffer the consequences of her phobeas. And Jon does not even try to hide how he feels anymore.

my9cats said...

Loved the recap. Great job Dew.
Did anyone notice the man sitting behind Kate el al? Man he looked royally pissed. Don't blame him. Innocent passengers on a flight like that deserve either a refund or free ticket, and a heads-up that the infamous KON and family will NOT be on said flight.

Stewie said...

I hope I am never on a plane with these people, I imagine they hope so too.

pokie said...

Not only are Dew's recaps funny, but I think it's hilarious that commercial breaks and upcoming scenes are acknowledged. I feel as if I'm in the same room! :)

Joanna Brandt said...

I used to be a huge fan of J&K. The show made me feel better as a stay at home mom and I felt I had someone with whom to identify. Recently however, I found their shows to be too planned and chock full of product placements. At first I did not begrudge them this, I was still on their side. Then they became too frequent (10 sec. pause on the Juicy Juice and then a commercial for the playhouse right after Kate raved about how much the kids loved it), then they were getting special private tours of places, fancy vacations, and clothes I just bought from Gymboree for my ONE daughter, so I know how much the outfit cost. I started to get suspicious and I found this blog. Amazing. I am so disappointed with J & K. I understand their show is a hit and you make money from that, who could complain?? However, they still act like their lives are sooooo hard. Fess up and admit you "made it" and stop accepting donations and gifts. I feel badly for the kids, especially Mady, who is obviously very affected by the show. I used to hold up Kate to be an amazing mom who could "sleep in her made bed" and have humor. However, she has gotten so demeaning and sarcastic and very unfunny. They are putting the show and their success over the very obvious needs of their kids. Shame.

I thought this post was hilarious and so true. I will give Kate the airplane presents. That is a standard tool for parents to help dristract the kids, because lets face it flying with kids is not fun. However, don't worry about the kids missing those gifts as Xmas because they had mountains of gifts that viewers sent. I mean what right does Kate have to say no to that, right??? BTW that was one of the first signs to me that they were going downhill. I would never let strangers randomly send my kids gifts, that's just weird.
Anyway, awesome job with the blog and I will be an avid reader now!!

IMHO said...

Forgive me if I'm repeating myself - I sent a comment out and I'm getting the follow up comment thread via e-mail now, so maybe it "took", but I can't find the comment. So, I'll just repeat this part:

Dew - great post! This part "Unless they want to make Kate look neurotic and crazy, which very well could be since they know that's why so many of us watch, or rather can't look away" -= spot on!!

I haven't watched in a week and have no plans too again. It's my little part of putting tape over the kid's backpack names - my little protest over the constant over exposure of these kids. So true - all you said about their private little lives for all the world to see!

Anonymous said...

Somebody probably already posted this but they went to the CANYONS RESORT in Park City, not Candyman's. It's nice - the same place NBC set up shop to do the Today show during the Olympics (though back then it was Wolf Mountain).

AmandaT said...

Barb in VA - I truly believe that Kate thinks she is beloved by many and there are just a few "jealous bystanders" spewing "evil" and hurtful untruths." She thinks that she is a supermom who is better than the rest of us and yet inspires us. (IMO)
Well, I am a mom of "just one" and I do everything myself - cooking, cleaning, childcare. My husband works hard full time, and I work part time. We take care of our son between the two of us. If I had 1/16th of the help they got - I'd have a lot of free time. I find them utterly ridiculous. I do not find Kate inspirational, but lazy and self-centered.
Wonderful recap. I actually forgot their scam for a moment and said, "that's wise," to my husband when they were taping over the names. He sarcastically reminded me that names on a backpack were the least of their concerns re: privacy.
-Amanda from VA

AmandaT said...

Barb in VA - I truly believe that Kate thinks she is beloved by many and there are just a few "jealous bystanders" spewing "evil" and hurtful untruths." She thinks that she is a supermom who is better than the rest of us and yet inspires us. (IMO)
Well, I am a mom of "just one" and I do everything myself - cooking, cleaning, childcare. My husband works hard full time, and I work part time. We take care of our son between the two of us. If I had 1/16th of the help they got - I'd have a lot of free time. I find them utterly ridiculous. I do not find Kate inspirational, but lazy and self-centered.
Wonderful recap. I actually forgot their scam for a moment and said, "that's wise," to my husband when they were taping over the names. He sarcastically reminded me that names on a backpack were the least of their concerns re: privacy.
-Amanda from VA

bri said...

"Coming up, Kate asks, "Can you imagine six kids, putting them on and off the potty?" Actually I can, because I used to teach the preschooler class at Vacation Bible School. Any other teachers out there who have managed this just fine?"

Yep, we had 13 kids in the toddler room at daycare, and it was a very easy time of day. They were very eager to sit and try to go- if they didn't, no big deal- NO SHAMING around potty learning- it's counterproductive and abusive, J&K. I don't remember one tantrum during potty time. Much easier than meal time or outdoor playtime! And they were younger than Kate's kids, they were all under 2.5. I don't know what her point is.

Anonymous said...

Come on... I think you are a little harsh. 8 kids...I can barely handle some days with my 21 mos old who has entered his terrible twos. I watch this show just to count my blessings. Poor Kate, she must get up every day and feel like she's running a business. They obviously love their kids. It's easy to judge when your not there yourself and also, what do you think would happen if your life was on display for all to see. Just my two cents!

Chunky Photojournalist Barbie said...

See, I think they were the only ones on the plane, along with the production crew. Doesn't Kate say something like "they're redirecting the plane with eight kids and 16 adults" when they find out they have to be rerouted through Idaho?

By my count, 16 adults would be J&K, Beth and Carla, 4-5 TLC crew members (two camera, two sound, one producer), a pilot, co-pilot, a few airline stewards and probably a Southwest PR person to monitor the film crew. When the kids are running up and down the aisles, you don't see anyone else in the seats. I think they have the plane all to themselves.

It occurs to me, though, that perhaps they're in a "gilded cage" situation here. It's been pointed out here on this blog that they have a lot of off-camera help (chef, laundry service, etc.) It's also been pointed out that Jon gasses up the cars, does all the baths and bedtime, etc.

Clearly, Kate's not coping, either because of her issues, the stress of filming or both. It seems to me like a vicious cycle. They need the help that the show provides and/or enables them to pay for. At this point, even if they *didn't* sign on for another season, thus reducing the stress of their filming schedule, Kate seems so frazzled, exhausted and panicky that I can't imagine her being able to handle the day-to-day duties without all her TLC-enabled help.

They NEED the help because she can't cope. The show enables the help. Without the show, they're really screwed. I think they *can't* stop filming. Like I said, a gilded cage.

mlou said...

RE:Come on... I think you are a little harsh. 8 kids...I can barely handle some days with my 21 mos old who has entered his terrible twos. I watch this show just to count my blessings. Poor Kate, she must get up every day and feel like she's running a business. They obviously love their kids. It's easy to judge when your not there yourself and also, what do you think would happen if your life was on display for all to see. Just my two cents!

I swear I am sooo sick of repeating myself but here it goes.
First of all, calling her Poor Kate, I almost did throw up a little. This Poor Kate attitude people have is exactly how she is swindling hard earned money from people. Second, it is not a business, it is a family.

I, myself had a 2 yr old and a newborn. I had no outside help and my husband had to work double shifts just so we could get by. Kate is in no way an inspiration.

If they loved their kids, they would discipline them, care about what their issues are and deal with them in private. If they loved their kids they would not choose favorites but love all of them equally.

I have every right to judge them, because people they brought this on themselves. Do you honestly think there was someone holding them gunpoint and a camera shoved in their face, don't think so!!!
So if they don't like it, they shouldn't do it. And that is my two cents!!!

Jill said...

thank you for confirming all the irony. it's like a train wreck, i can't look away. i love it - and i hate it... somewhat like my first marriage - and we know how that ended.

i think mady is a mirror image of her and it kills her...

Anonymous said...

Come on... I think you are a little harsh. 8 kids...I can barely handle some days with my 21 mos old who has entered his terrible twos. I watch this show just to count my blessings. Poor Kate, she must get up every day and feel like she's running a business. They obviously love their kids. It's easy to judge when your not there yourself and also, what do you think would happen if your life was on display for all to see. Just my two cents!

F That! I have 5 kids under the age of 4 (including triplets!), and where's my medal?!?!? I do it WITHOUT freebies, free help, chef's, and without exploiting my kids!

It's done ALL THE TIME. Kate is NOT the only woman in the world with 8 kids. She IS the only mother in the world who gets to sit on her ass all day long and boss around her crew. She's not a mother, she's the manager of the house-in charge of bitchiness.

I assure you. There are MANY moms that have MANY young children and we do it ALL ALONE. No free stuff. No help, and NO LYING.

:::sigh::: WAKE UP!!!!

Sara said...

RE: Anonymous said...
"Somebody probably already posted this but they went to the CANYONS RESORT in Park City, not Candyman's."
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I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it was supposed to be a joke :)

Sara said...

RE: "Did anyone notice the man sitting behind Kate el al? Man he looked royally pissed."
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He was at the beach with them during the beach trip episode, and at their church in another one (can't remember which), and I'm startign to think he's security. He did kind of go after a guy who stopped near the G's when they were at the beach.

Sara said...

I'd like to vote for a two-person comment of the week from Dew and ThreeFarmers:

"Wow this episode is getting boring. Flying is boring to begin with, but watching other people fly? Yawwwn-fest.

Unless the other people flying are Kathy Griffin and a bunch of Drag Queens, I'm not interested."

Anonymous said...

Come on... I think you are a little harsh. 8 kids...I can barely handle some days with my 21 mos old who has entered his terrible twos. I watch this show just to count my blessings. Poor Kate, she must get up every day and feel like she's running a business. They obviously love their kids. It's easy to judge when your not there yourself and also, what do you think would happen if your life was on display for all to see. Just my two cents!

Right, I had a 2 year old, 10 month old and newborn, with a nice fresh c section this December. I didnt run around saying how exhausted I was (although I was) I didnt expect everyone and their mother to drop everything and help me. I dont expect free crap, I dont expect anything, wait no I do expect to wake up at 6 with the youngest and stay up till 10 getting my husband ready for work the next day. I do expect to change at least 15 diapers a day, to fix a dozen bottles, to do 3 loads of laundry, to pick up the same mess 10 times. ETC.

I do NOT feel sorry for Kate, I do NOT admire her. She is in no way worthy of admiration, or of freebies. Maybe at the beginning like most families of HOM they could use some free stuff. But now? Nope they dont need it. They are able bodied people, they can *gasp* WORK. My family is struggling right now and to see all this free stuff handed to these horrible parents for exploiting their children is NOT okay. Its beyond that. It makes me sick.

Linda said...

mlou said...

And that is my two cents!!!


Shhhh...Don't mention money! You might get a "love offering" request from Kon...(it's not cheap raising 8 kids you know)...

Dew said...

"Absolutely hilarious! Who are you anyway, Dew? You have a real way with words. I absolutely love the "howler monkeys" comment. It is so perfectly descriptive of them."

Can't take credit for the howler monkeys comment, someone else came up with that, but thank you! As for who I am, at the risk of being too specific, I have a journalism and political science BA, and I worked for a short time with a national cable news network, and then for a newspaper in D.C. Then I decided, fortunatly or unfortunatly, that I wanted to go to law school! Currently I'm an attorney in our juvenile dependency court system, where I litigate child abuse and neglect cases. Recaps are my hobby of course!

Liz said...

I think she had a melt down on the plane becasue they told her if they don't meet their original destination they would have to pay for their own hotel rooms. Maybe their was a limit to the expense account.

Anonymous said...

Boy, there's a lot of anger in some of these comments. Is it just me or what?

And what is it with all the curse words and such? Really not necessary.

Just my opinions.

Dew said...

I think there could be anger in the comments we've seen lately, but I think it's justified. I for one can't help getting a little angry when I think about how these children are being robbed of a normal childhood. And the fact of the matter is, if no one thinks it's worth getting upset over, nothing will ever change. Children who have to make "Keep Out!" signs in their own living space because a camera crew is always in their face and business, need our anger and advocacy.

"I watch this show just to count my blessings. Poor Kate, she must get up every day and feel like she's running a business. They obviously love their kids. It's easy to judge when your not there yourself and also, what do you think would happen if your life was on display for all to see."

I feel like this may be a baiting comment, but I'll try to respond anyway. I watch this show to count my blessings, too. For instance I count my blessings that I haven't exposed myself or my family to a camera crew and the rest of America. I count my blessings that I'm not in a relationship with such disrespect and combativeness. I count my blessings I enjoy children and spending time with them more than the spa, and that I have children in my life who love me and have no "issues" with me and would never dream of behaving the way their children do. I count my blessings I can support myself with a job like everybody else. I count my blessings I'm happy with my modest existance and don't need to fill any emptiness and low self esteem I may have with cash, luxury vacations, helpers, mansions, and other tangible things of that nature. And so on, you get the idea.

They love the kids. Well, it takes more than just loving your kids. You also need to listen to your kids and treate them humanely. And one of them at least is crying and begging her parents to please stop ruining her life with this show. People love their goldfish too. But that's not enough.

What do I think would happen if my life were taped? Hopefully nothing like this. But the point is I would not let my life be taped, period. I'm sure people will say if offered the same you wouldn't say that. Well, I would, and so would a lot of other folks. For instance I've been approached in many a public place for public auditions for various game shows and reality shows. Some were even paid spots. This is often how they cast, just walk around the area and stop people. And I always say, no thanks. I like my privacy. So not everyone likes to be on T.V.

She's running a business. Yes she is. A business where the goods, supplies, output and input, stock, and collateral is all your children, a dangerous proposition.

Anonymous said...

I don't understand why people give Kate a pass on her horrible personality by saying something like, "She has eight kids, I have a hard time with my [insert smaller amount than eight here] kid(s). Maybe you are a bad mother too then.

If a woman finds herself with lots of children, what are they going to do? Run away. No, most women would deal with the hand they were dealt.

I have two kids. A two year old and an infant. Recently a friend who has one child, a newborn, told me that she doesn't know how I do it. Do what? Be a mother? Sure the more you have the more stressful it can get but you deal with it and live life. No one needs to be in awe of my mothering or Kate's.

I hate this martyr bull about Kate. I've known women who've had more children than her and did a better job at mothering than Kate could ever dream of.

MomOfThree said...

Regarding the number of people on the plane, Kate said that there were 16 (or 18) people on the flight and that 12 of them were their group. I am assuming that she was referring to passengers, not flight crew. This would make sense...10 Gosselins and Beth and Kayla would, indeed, make up a party (?) of ten. The others would have to be TLC crew...somebody had to be filming, after all. In any case, I took it to mean that the plane was occupied by only their group, so I would agree with the above poster about the "annoyed-looking man" behind Kate to be "one of them".

Anonymous said...

My grandmother had 15 - count 'em - 15 kids at a time when there was no running water, no electricity and (gasp) no spas. Two of them died from different illnesses when they were toddlers, but life went on. It had to. I'm sure she prayed hard and long for better things and better days but my father said he never once heard her complain when he was growing up. I know this doesn't compare to J&K's situation b/c when the youngest was born the older ones were already out on their own, but you've got to admit it was one tough gig anyway. And every one of my aunts and uncles and my dad were all hard working, loving people that led lives to be proud of. If Jon and Kate can't handle the pressure of raising 8 kids without the help of thousands upon thousands of dollars worth of freebies, then maybe it's time to take a serious look at the mentality and motives of these two.
I'm not sure what the laws are in their state, but here in Canada, every phone call to the Child Health and Welfare Services office has to be investigated. It's law. Maybe that's what it'll take to free the Gosselin kids from this circus. Kate needs to grow up and be a mother, rather than the whiney spoiled brat she is right now. And Jon needs a plastic surgeon to replace the balls he lost a long time ago.

Dew said...

If they were the only people on the plane, I find it strange that they pushed them to the very back and made them sit scrunched up together like that. They made it seem like the plane was full of people. If it wasn't, it was misleading.

Also, I cannot even imagine how much money it would cost to buy out this entire airplane for just a party of 18. Why not just get a private jet, or is that too obvious? Come on, they already showed us the McMansion, ski clothes, ski equipment, two nannies for the trip. Spring for the jet, too! Trust me, viewers couldn't possibly dislike those parents any more jet or not.

Moreover, these children will think that all planes are empty. More special treatment that don't know the difference about. How does flying on an empty 747 teach them anything about cooperation and patience and respecting others on a crowded flight full of smelly, annoyed strangers?

Cameo said...

I no longer watch the show as I just read your recaps as it is much more entertaining than "J&K+8". That way I don't have to feel bad about participating in child labor, j/k. kind of. Anyway, I saw in one of my weekly magazines that yes, J&K DID renew their vows in Hawaii, and they had a picture of the two of them. Barf. So that episode is upcoming. I can't wait to read about on the blog!

Anonymous said...

Some very good points here.

I teach preschool, and getting 6 kids on/off the potty by yourself (much less with a helper), isn't a medal-worthy feat. I am so tired of Kate playing the martyr.

The covering up the names on the backpacks floored me. I wish she had that same protective nature when it comes to exploiting her children on TV.

Kate's meltdown on the plane? Holy moly. I would think a mother of 8 would be unflappable. Yes, it stinks. But grow up and stop being so melodramatic! I've been stuck in airports/travel limbo for days at a time. I wouldn't have begrudged her a few frustrated/exhausted tears. But a full-on freakout- guaranteed to make her children and the other passengers uncomfortable? Come on-grow up woman. Ugh.

Lastly, I wish Beth would come be my friend. She's awesome.

Praying for Snow said...

"Wow this episode is getting boring. Flying is boring to begin with, but watching other people fly? Yawwwn-fest.

Unless the other people flying are Kathy Griffin and a bunch of Drag Queens, I'm not interested."

I second that nomination. Love me some Kathy!

Re:the comments being hateful...I kind of agree. Sometimes it takes away from the point of this blog, even if the anger is justifiable.

Ravello said...

This is one of the most entertaining recaps ever. Great job.

How would the KONS cope in this new era of airline luggage restrictions? We mere mortals manage somewhow. I have not paid overage fees yet! But then I'm paying my own freight and airfare.
To think they took 13 suitcases after shipping others. They must think they are royalty.

When I saw the show I thought it was beyond stupid for Kate to make a big deal over their names being on their backpacks. Sorry Kate, the horse is already out of the barn. Millions know your kids by name thanks to you.

Thanks for the Joel love, I just adore that boy. He is very sweet and that smile is so beautiful.

Anonymous said...

Thanks again for the recap. If the sound of Kate's voice didn't make me go running I might have actually seen a whole episode of the series but Lord that woman is a peice of work. If Figure 8 claims she is in on the joke why does she think behavior like that is "funny." Ha, ha a mother of 8 can't manage a minor set back without melting down, but she claims Mady has issues. Sad state of affairs in that household.

4tolove said...

hehe--this is the first episode recap I've read (new to the GWoP blog) and this is great--way more entertaining than the show!! Kate's meltdown--what a joke. Try flying with your four kids--alone--on a 13 hour transatlantic flight that includes layovers in cities where you don't speak the language (we were relocating overseas--this was not by choice). The only tears on that trip were my 6 month old's.

PS Maddy's i Pod:) Six people in my family--six iPods--even the baby has one ( listened to on the docking station---not with ear buds:)

Khloe said...

Hahahaha! This was SO funny! I was surprised to google search and see how many other people feel the same as I do about this greedy couple! I saw the first document of this family and thought they were cute enough. I am not a beleiver of medically producing multiple children in an over populated world when there are so many children that are in need of homes. Just because people can not produce a child does not mean they can not be a "real" parent to a child! I watched the show once and thought Kate was a wench but thought I just caught a bad day because I know I can act like that, too. Then I saw the "gum" show and thought it was horrible how she screamed and threatened her son and ragged out the family member that helps them out so much. I was also grossed out how they admit they will never help anyone else out cuz then they would have like 14 kids. BUT if they helped out their sister they would have 12 just like SHE has when SHE helps THEM. Fair, no? Whatever. Also it makes me ill to know they spent ALL that money on fert. treatments then use TAX PAYERS money to take care of the litter they created and to hear about all the handouts they are sent when THEY created this finacial burden on themselves. Okay, so I dont find them too cute anymore. Especially as I sat and watched that Labor Day thing (If they annoy me so much, WHY do I keep watching it my family asked me. LOL) So my entire point to this comment is to give you this link to someones page who was actually ON that flight with them. It sounds nothing like the recap (I did not see the actual episode because I am trying to save my sanity). There are things that even contradict the recap like how they were said to have been stuck on the plane but this blog said people were allowed to go get lunch. Lazy Thing One and Lazy Thing Two were said to have a "helper" get their food. And she says nothing about a "meltdown" from the Head Howler Monkey. Hmmm... Here is the link if you want to read her blog:
http://estherandrobby.blogspot.com/2008/01/jon-kate-plus-8.html

SarahGrace said...

I have a few things I'd like to comment on. I hope this isn't too long.

The tape-on-the-backpacks thing. How do we know that J&K haven't talked to the kids about not talking to strangers? Remember, we're only shown a part of their lives. Even then, not every four-year-old can process the fact that just because someone calls your name, they're not automatically safe. So extra precautions are a good idea. Unfortunately futile in J&K's case, but still a good idea.

Mady and the backpacks. Sure, there was probably a backpack around the house she could use. I've seen one or two hanging on hooks in their garages. But the thing is, Mady wanted one because her little brothers and sisters had them. She gets like that a lot, whining because the tups get something she doesn't, or they get their way and she doesn't. If I was Kate, I wouldn't have found one for her, either.

J&K commenting about the "hair pain". They're joking about something cute their kids say. What's wrong with that? Just because they're laughing, doesn't mean they're making fun of the tups.

Dew said...

"Remember, we're only shown a part of their lives."
This argument I see quite a lot and let me explain why it doesn't work. It goes both ways. What we can't see we don't know whether it happened or not. Either opinion about what did or didn't happen is possible. It could have happened just as easily as it could NOT have. But I need to write a recap of the show, and on the show, no one told the children not to talk to strangers. In fact these parents encourage the children to hug and bond with complete strangers like their doctor when they were babies.

"But the thing is, Mady wanted one because her little brothers and sisters had them. She gets like that a lot, whining because the tups get something she doesn't, or they get their way and she doesn't."

So? The issue was not Mady wanting something the Tups had, the issue was Kate's over the top reaction like she was asking for a 5,000 dollar loan. Kate has to make a big deal out of a simple, reasonable request. She wants a backpack on an airplane. Makes it easier for a little kid to carry her own luggage, keeps everything organized. It's not an unreasonable request. Even so, it seems inherently unfair to me that through no special occasion the Tups get brand new engraved backpacks, at the time rumored to be a donation from a fan, and the twins got jack. If that wasn't the case, why not remind Mady when the Tups got these nice backpacks, you got a nice doll, remember that? Mady was jealous of the backpacks, and since Kate was making such a big deal out of them, it only made it worse. Everything in life is not fair, but why rub it in for the child? Why not say the Tups get little backpacks, but you're a big girl and you get to have your cool big girl backpack from school? It's just really cruel and unnecessary the way Mady is shot down like this. And no I don't think it's okay that one child gets a brand new gift for no reason, and the other doesn't. It's not their birthday. Other times of the year you need to at least attempt to be fair. Fairness at that child's age is EVERYTHING. Helping them understand and appreciate what fairness actually is and the difference between fairness and that's the way the cookie crumbles, is crucial. The backpacks were not the way the cookie crumbles. It was a blatant unfairness and overlook. Give the twins a backpack or something similar, problem solved.

The cookie crumbles is when one child gets invited to his friend's bday party and the other child isn't that close to the bday child. That's the way it goes and you should teach your child to cope with life's little "unfairnesses" and not try to intervene here.

Think of it this way, you have two kids. You buy one kid a present for no reason. When the other kid asks for the same present, you tell him no. Is this at all acceptable? In our culture we call that favoritism of a child, a big no no in any psychologist's book.

jessicacj said...

Do you guys remember reading about the Dionne Quintuplets and how their parents thought about displaying them at the state fair to make money to help support the family? And then the goverment said no, siezed the quints and instead made a home where the kids could be veiwed playing each day by thousands of people? Wasn't that wierd and creepy? Can you believe children were exploited that way just because they were rare multiples? Hey wait.....dejavu.....hmmmm....

Anonymous said...

This whole post is just sad. You, who berates the entire show and everything that goes along with it, yet can't look away and has NOTHING better or more excited in your own life to talk about. Who are you to pass judgment on these people and everything they go through? Guaranteed that if you had 8 kids and were offered these things for free...you would take them. This is just sad. Really, really sad. I have never in my life witnessed someone talk so harshly about people they don't even know and criticize their every move. Do you think God is looking down on you and criticizing your every move? Just because you don't put your life on TV for the world to see, doesn't mean you are better than those who do. Where is your page about The Duggers, where is your page about Little People, Big World, where is your page about every other reality series on TV?? How dare you act like this towards someone else. Put cameras in your house and let us judge you and see how you like it. You are not perfect in any way and I don't have to know you to say that. I can tell by the things you are saying. And yes, I am judging you. You have given me reason to do so. Let me know when your reality series will be airing and what channel and I'll be sure and memorize every sentence and every error that you make and then I'll start a website and blog about it. Thanks...keep up this amazing lifestyle that you have because it seems sooooo worth it.

elleroy said...

The difference, Anon 11:52, is that the Duggars and the Roloffs, as far as we know, are not deceiving the public and making money off the backs of their kids.
How many times does it need to be repeated until
the point gets across to the J&K supporters?? Yes, we do have other things in our lives, but we ALSO choose to take a stand against the way these children are being treated. We choose to also take a stand regarding the "love offerings" the Gosselins are collecting at their speaking engagements from hard working people who don't know the truth. Open your eyes. Wake up and smell the fresh cut flowers that are delivered with the organic catering.

Anonymous said...

Quote: "How many times does it need to be repeated until
the point gets across to the J&K supporters??"

I share in your frustration of trying to get this point across! It astounds me how so many cannot understand or fail to recognize the fact that these children ARE without a doubt, most definitely being exploited! IMO, the supporters are so caught up in living vicariously through the Gosselin family and the illusion they represent that they are in total denial of the obvious!

Julie411 said...

I just thought this comment from elleroy was worth repeating:

Wake up and smell the fresh cut flowers that are delivered with the organic catering.

Anonymous said...

The J & K go shopping episode aired today. I thought it was interesting how Kate went on and on about how it was a 'rare treat' to spend money on themselves and they had to budget accordingly to afford the shopping spree. Kate further says that she 'will be wearing the clothes for the next five years'. Suggesting that it will be quite some time before they can afford to budget another clothes shopping spree for themselves. Well, its been less than a year since that shopping spree and Kate is now sporting her new Ann Taylor Loft wardrobe. I guess in Kate logic five years is when ever the next clothing company ponies up a gift card that 'affords' her a free shopping spree!

mlou said...

" And yes, I am judging you. You have given me reason to do so. "

I hope you realize you put your foot in your mouth by making this comment. I am judging Jon & Kate because they have given me a reason to do so. In my pitiful little life I believe in standing up for what's right. This includes the exploitation of children who have signs of pyschological problems due to the exploitation. This includes the awareness that people are getting suckered for all they're worth. It just so happens that in this day in time we have internet to help with this cause. You take the time to comment on here. Why not me?

Mother Hubbard said...

Anonymous said...
This whole post is just sad. You, who berates the entire show and everything that goes along with it, yet can't look away and has NOTHING better or more excited in your own life to talk about.


We don't berate the entire show, we adore the children. We will miss them terribly when certain people come to their senses. But when is it the right thing to do, to turn your head and not look, when innocent children are being exploited on national television?
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Who are you to pass judgment on these people and everything they go through?

When you put yourself out there with cameras and are on tv almost daily, you are fair game to be judged. Why is it they can easily accept the positive judgement, yet cry foul with the negative?
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Guaranteed that if you had 8 kids and were offered these things for free...you would take them.


No sir ( or ma'm ). This is not true. I would never accept all these free things at the expense of my children's childhood and right to privacy. Would you allow your child's naked butt to be shown, or your child having bowel movements, or your elementary aged daughter's emotional meltdowns to be shown to millions of people in exchange for free hair transplants, tummy tucks, and Juicy Juice? Not me, no way.

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This is just sad. Really, really sad. I have never in my life witnessed someone talk so harshly about people they don't even know and criticize their every move.


They are on television practically every time you turn it on. They have allowed cameras into their home. I think it's safe to say we know them. They may not know us, but we certainly know them.

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Do you think God is looking down on you and criticizing your every move?

Actually, I think God is saying it's about darn time people are speaking up for these kids.

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Just because you don't put your life on TV for the world to see, doesn't mean you are better than those who do.


People who pimp their young children for money, freebies and fame? You can bet your boots I am better than that!

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Where is your page about The Duggers, where is your page about Little People, Big World, where is your page about every other reality series on TV??


The Duggars and Roloffs never try so hard to be something they are not. I don't see relatives and friends of the Duggars and Roloffs speaking out against them publicly. I don't see the Roloff's and Duggars asking for love offerings from speaking engagements if they don't actually need the $. When was the last time you saw a Duggar or Roloff child naked or sitting on the commode? Even the Osbornes didn't stoop that low.
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How dare you act like this towards someone else.


Are you for real? Do you actually watch the show? Do you not see this woman's behavior practically every episode? Have you not witnessed her slapping her husband, yelling and screaming, bad-mouthing a family member who was nothing but kind to her and bent over backwards for her?
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Put cameras in your house and let us judge you and see how you like it.


They volunteered for this. You act as if they are being forced to do this. The kids are being forced, not Jon and Kate. You put cameras in your house and let millions see how you live, you are asking to be judged...period!
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You are not perfect in any way and I don't have to know you to say that. I can tell by the things you are saying. And yes, I am judging you.

Do you actually think before you write this stuff? ( Pot calling the kettle black on aisle nine ).
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You have given me reason to do so.

Calm down now. No reason to lose a hair plug over this.
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Let me know when your reality series will be airing and what channel and I'll be sure and memorize every sentence and every error that you make and then I'll start a website and blog about it.


We'll do. But then, geez, wouldn't that make you one of us? ( cough-cough )

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Thanks...keep up this amazing lifestyle that you have because it seems sooooo worth it.


It is worth every second to try to protect 8 innocent kids from being exploited by greedy parents. You are most welcomed.

Julie411 said...

I challenge those of you who defend Jon and Kate (and while I am at it, Jon and Kate, too) to go to Paul Peterson's website and read some of the stories about other children who were taken advantage of by stage parents.

And, while you are at it, read up on the new book written by Britney Spears' mother, as I don't think Paul Peterson has written about that one yet.

You read those stories and then ask yourself if Jon and Kate Gosselin are above that type of behavior.

And if you feel they are better, different, above it, check back in and explain to me why. Because I really, really hope you are right. I hope they are setting aside fair portions of the income in trust for the kids. I hope they are limiting the number of hours the kids work and the content they allow on tape. I hope they care more about their children than they do about the show. I hope that the biting sarcasm and unkind words and bizarre punishments do not scar the kids permanently. I WANT to be convinced.

http://www.minorcon.org/toc.html


To the moderators: can you link the AMC site to your page? After reading some of the contents today, it's really got me thinking, more than ever, that the kids are in trouble.

Anonymous said...

I have eight children myself. A nineteen year old, a seventeen year old, a thirteen year old, a twelve year old, two eleven year olds, an 8 year old, and an eight month old. It's stressful, and I have a pretty short fuse and less patience than most. However, other than the help of my husband and occassionally his mom, I'm on my own. I don't get freebies for anything (unless of course one of my girlfriends 'donates' left over baby formula or hand me downs). We live on one income. It's tough.

So when this show started out I was immediately hooked. Yay! A fellow mom of eight! But the one thing I noticed from the get-go was how pessimistic Kate is. Always. Before she will admit any good she must always, always emphasize the bad. And honestly, if she uses the word 'exhausted' one more time....grrrr! Yeah, I get tired. Stressed. Sore. But 'exhausted'? The last time I was that was a few days after we brought home our youngest child from the hospital, still very much recovering from a c-section and trying to keep up with the housework my mother in law so graciously caught up for me.

I guess what bothers me the most is her absolute disgust when she re-tell's the story of the day she found out she was pregnant with six babies. Because one day her children will be old enough to read what she said right here on the old WWW. Horrified? Worst day of her life? How awful! Even with the eight that I have, I would be absolutely ECSTATIC if I awoke tomorrow to discover I was pregnant again, let alone with six! Actually, if it was allowed, I would ask for fertility drugs just to increase the odds (I know, right?). Seriously. I LOVE my kids. I LOVE being a mom. There isn't anything about it that I wouldn't do again and again and again.

I know it sounds harsh but I feel that Kate is a baby 'collector'. Having kids became a challenge, a conquest. Then she got what she asked for in every sense of the word. And now it's hurry up and get them raised and gone.

Just my 2 cents...

Anonymous said...

I had four spontaneous quads back in the day when HOMs were practically unheard of. The only ones I remember ever seeing or hearing about before mine were the Kienast quints, and oddly enough another set of spontaneous quads born several years before mine in the same small state.

I live in a small city, and trust me the interest was huge. Our kids were featured once on the news, the day the last one came home. The outside of our house was not shown, there was an agreement that this would be a one shot deal in exchange for our kids not being a regular media feature in our area.

So yes, I can say that I would not have had my multiples on display.

Anonymous said...

Recently flew with 6 kids ranging in age from 1-14 to Idaho for a reunion - we took, get this, 2 large suitcases and 3 pilot's bags. Yes, 5. Five of the kids had backpacks and I had my mega diaper bag for mine, the baby's and whatever extra crap we might need. We also brought our breakfast - pb&j sandwiches, organic pg even, no sugar added jam! We also brought along 2 car seats (that admittedly were a major pain in the neck to carry through the airport) and rented two boosters from the car rental place. (we rented a 12 person van and picked up a few relatives) We also brought along a stroller. We were gone for 10 days! Reduce, reuse - washing machines are great. I am not an organized person by any means - but even with my ineptitude in that arena - we still managed a minimal amount of luggage. Even in the wintertime with bulkier clothing (snowsuits) I would have just tossed the entire families' winter garb into another large suitcase and that would have still made only 6 total suitcases.

I am the oldest of 8, mother to 6. Once I got past the third kid it was just more of the same. Busy is busy.

I would not in a million years want to be tripping over camera crews. Anyone under such close scrutiny is not going to look great all the time. I get tired though, of the thinly veiled implication that I don't work as hard, that I don't have as much stress or exhaustion (c'mon - I haven't a full 8 hours sleep since 1994!) because I don't have as many kids. Maybe I only have 2 less - but my mom had the same amount. The difference is - we and many other moms do it all WITHOUT a Help Crew. I think that evens the playing field a bit don't you?